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Farrel
Learned Scribe

United Kingdom
236 Posts

Posted - 01 Sep 2011 :  10:31:26  Show Profile Send Farrel a Private Message
Very many thanks THO and Ed for taking the time to unearth such wonderful lore.

I have a few adjustments to make to my campaign now that this information is at hand.

I still can't get over the detail provided... amazing stuff!
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

5041 Posts

Posted - 01 Sep 2011 :  16:04:46  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
You're very welcome.
One clarification/amplification, from Ed: Baergil collected maps of everywhere, not just Mistledale, but collected lore (usually verbal accounts that he then wrote down) only pertaining to Mistledale.
love,
THO
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Broken Helm
Learned Scribe

USA
108 Posts

Posted - 02 Sep 2011 :  19:35:10  Show Profile  Visit Broken Helm's Homepage Send Broken Helm a Private Message
Dear Ed and THO,
A friend of mine once played in one of Ed's charity Realms adventures at a con in Oklahoma City, years back, and recently found his notes. The adventure was in upland Cormyr, and the PCs met a pompous local lord whose retinue all wore badges of "A gold anvil split by a three-zag gold lightning bolt, on a pale blue field."
So our question is: who was that lord? A Cormyrean noble, obviously, but the PCs never learned his name, and not knowing has begun to bug my friend. Me, I just see a chance for another tidbit of Cormyrean lore from Ed.
My friend's notes also mention meeting someone else on a road who had a "tall, pointed maroon shield with a diagonal stripe of black from top right corner to lower level corner, with a white border all around the shield," but this was an actual shield rather than a badge, and the rider was alone.
Again, can you tell us who it might have been?
Thanks in advance.
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Blueblade
Senior Scribe

USA
804 Posts

Posted - 02 Sep 2011 :  19:45:30  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
I THINK the second gent you met on the road, the one with the maroon shield, was an adventurer who lives in Arabel, who got knighted by Azoun IV for his services to the realm. An NPC, though he might have started as a character played by someone participating in one of those charity sessions. I met him in play with Ed as a DM, too, but can't remember his name, which I foolishly didn't write down. It'll come to me . . .
Or Ed and the lovely THO will come to answer you, first.
BB
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

5041 Posts

Posted - 03 Sep 2011 :  15:49:22  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Heh. Your gift for prophecy continues unabated, good Blueblade . . .
You are correct in everything you've posted about the adventurer, who is Araun Taraunth of Arabel. An NPC always, who has secrets only Ed should reveal (so I'll leave it to him).
The Lord is Lord Sardamon Thorland, one of Cormyr's few mining magnates (he owns at least six rich iron and silver mines in westernmost Cormyr). His blazon, simplified on that badge, commemorates divine defeat of dwarves, centuries ago, that helped one of his ancestors retain one of the first Thorland-dug mines. The Thorlands are reclusive, having a great distaste for Suzail and for politics - - and everything else about them I'll leave to Ed to tell.
love,
THO
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Blueblade
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USA
804 Posts

Posted - 03 Sep 2011 :  15:57:56  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Thank you! I happily await Ed's eventual reply.
And (of course) I have ANOTHER query, this one about a "drinking club" get-together in Marsember where business owners/important citizens discussed and decided things, made deals, etc. (not a tavern or club, but a roving-location monthly meeting). What is it called, when did it start, and who dominates it and/or "fronts" for it (i.e. deciding where the next meeting will be, and telling members)? For that matter, is it a front for any group or cause or faction? Has the Crown infiltrated it? What else will Ed tell us about it?
BB
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Baleful Avatar
Learned Scribe

Canada
161 Posts

Posted - 03 Sep 2011 :  16:00:58  Show Profile  Visit Baleful Avatar's Homepage Send Baleful Avatar a Private Message
If it's the same group I once literally fell into the midst of in an Ed-run game, it's called "the Drenched Elders" formally, and just "the Elders" most of the time Marsembans talk about it. They've all heard of it, but like the Lords of Waterdeep, no one in the streets of the city knows who the members are. They all have their strong suspicions about this fellow citizen or that one, but no certainty . . .
BA
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

5041 Posts

Posted - 03 Sep 2011 :  16:10:39  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Correct. Ed will of course add more.
I bring Toronto (Ontario, Canada)-area scribes a public service announcement: Ed is one of the contributors to TESSERACTS 15, the annual Canadian f and sf anthology (I understand the theme is YA/teens, for this volume), from EDGE/Hades publishing. There will be a public signing/launch party with co-editor Julie Czerneda and some of the authors on Saturday, September 17th, from 3 to 6 pm at Bakka-Phoenix bookstore, Canada's oldest and best fantasy and sf bookstore, recently relocated to Harbord Street (nigh Spadina, a block south of the Spadina subway stop on the Bloor-Danforth east-west subway line). So if you want to meet Ed and get something signed . . .
Ed will also be a Guest of Honour at this year's Phantasm convention in Peterborough (basement of the Peterborough Public Library on Aylmer Street, Saturday Sept 24th and Sunday the 25th; Ed won't be there until late afternoon Saturday because of his library day job). Ed gives a talk on Saturday night, and runs a 2nd edition D&D game Sunday afternoon.
Ed tells me he'll be very busy writing novels and game lore after that, and won't reappear at any public events until SFContario in Toronto (at the same hotel as last year, on Jarvis Street) in November, more details to follow . . .
love to all,
THO
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Ayrik
Great Reader

Canada
6262 Posts

Posted - 04 Sep 2011 :  06:47:59  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message
Ed needs to move to the beautiful Pacific Northwest, preferably not far from where I live. Just sayin'

[/Ayrik]
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elglanto
Seeker

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Posted - 04 Sep 2011 :  21:20:33  Show Profile  Visit elglanto's Homepage Send elglanto a Private Message
Hello,

In a new campain in the real that i'm going to play as a Lawful Neutral cleric of Mystra. He started to workship her before the time of troubles. As the godess was L/N instead of N/G, i guess her dogma and clergy was different before the avatar events. Thus, i'm looking for some informations about her faith and church at that time.

Thanks.

Edit : please excuse my english since i'm a foreign fan and english is not my native language.

Edited by - elglanto on 04 Sep 2011 21:21:57
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Farrel
Learned Scribe

United Kingdom
236 Posts

Posted - 05 Sep 2011 :  15:55:21  Show Profile Send Farrel a Private Message
Hi again THO

I'm back with another question pertaining to Mistledale, if I may please?

Within Volo's Guide to the Dalelands it states that there are a number of small hamlets and communities within Mistledale, my question is in regards to their names and rough locations?

Any information on residents of note would be most useful.

Thankyou once again
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Baleful Avatar
Learned Scribe

Canada
161 Posts

Posted - 06 Sep 2011 :  18:32:44  Show Profile  Visit Baleful Avatar's Homepage Send Baleful Avatar a Private Message
Dear Ed and THO,
In rural Cormyr I've always assumed you can get something to eat or drink at any time of night in an inn . . . but elsewhere? (I'm talking about traveling strangers, not arriving where someone in your own family lives.) Are there other places that serve "the clock around" in hamlets, villages, and towns? (I'm assuming there are some in cities.) What about abbeys, temples, and monastic settlements/temple farms?
Thanks in advance!
BA
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Azuth
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USA
402 Posts

Posted - 07 Sep 2011 :  00:44:35  Show Profile  Visit Azuth's Homepage Send Azuth a Private Message

Beloved THO,

I'm hoping (against hope, really) that Ed can answer this question. Will he address the statement of Mystra's about the error of "choosing one family" which, I assume, refered to the Seven Sisters. It seems a little strange, given there's no foundation to the comment. Of course, there needn't be a foundation, or it may be upcoming in a future novel, which of course means it's NDA, but I'd be interested in expounding on that statement if possible.

Cheers!


Azuth, the First Magister
Lord of All Spells

The greatest expression of creativity is through Art.
Offense can never be given, only taken.
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sfdragon
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2018 Posts

Posted - 07 Sep 2011 :  03:27:32  Show Profile Send sfdragon a Private Message
I have the most foul stenchy question to ask Ed. its a drow question, do drow cities have sewers??

why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power


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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

5041 Posts

Posted - 07 Sep 2011 :  17:17:35  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
. . . And Ed replies:

Hi, sfdragon. Some do, some don't; it depends on how much flowing water there is in/through/near the drow city. If water is abundant (large lake, fast-flowing river) AND there's fairly easy access to a lower level of the Underdark (for a sewer to drain away into), a drow city might simply take drinking/cooking/washing/daily life uses water out of the river upstream, and dump polluted water/sewage outflow back into the river downstream...handing the filth on to downstream creatures.
SMART drow communities plant fungus beds/forests that feed on offal/sewage, and either use nightsoil (dung) carts (often hoppers harnessed to the backs of pack lizards) to move the filth well outside the city to the fungus beds . . . or they have sewers flowing into fungus beds, or downriver riverbank fungus beds, tended (by slaves and drow being punished, or sometimes even driders). These strain/clean the water and turn the sewage into food for the fungi, which can be phosphorescent (light sources), edible (food for drow and their pets and workbeasts), and sources of fiber for weaving, various medicines, and oils (for lubrication/protective coatings), or some combination of these uses, depending on the type of fungi (there are literally thousands of different sorts).
Bear in mind that drow sewers are unlikely to be extensive unless they're simplt shafts down into the deeper Underdark (whereupon every drow residence might have its own), and also unlike to be large (as in, tunnels large enough for armed foes, such as enemy drow or human adventurers, to creep through. Drow are paranoid suspicious about such things, and are VERY unlikely to stupidly create large networks that can be traveled through to sidestep their defenses or allow easy escapes.


So saith Ed. Who has indeed thought all of this through, long, long ago.
love,
THO
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

5041 Posts

Posted - 07 Sep 2011 :  17:40:52  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Back on Page 48 of this thread (August 17th), scribe Kno asked “What's the symbol and banner of Lantan?” and scribe Kajehase supplied and swift and creative answer (and I startled him by describing the “exploding steam engine” he mentioned). Here is Ed’s reply about the symbol and banner of Lantan:


Heh. The arms of Lantan have varied over the years, depending on the dominance of the faith of Gond at the time, but for a long time in the later 1300s, they were:
A steel-silver shield with a vertical row of three devices down its center line. The upper most device is a steam engine, represented by a complex knot of continuous pipes and valves overlying a circular boiler, and surrounded by a scalloped circle of orange, representing steam lit by the flames of the engine’s (unseen) firebox (that heats the boiler).
The center device is the symbol of Gond.
The lowest device is the exploding steam engine that THO described earlier (a fluffy ball of gray steam with a leaning smokestack protruding out of it on upper right, pistons and their linkages flying apart and out of the cloud lower left and center left, and a wild pinwheel of orange flames in the center of the cloud).
The banner of Lantan has three “endless” horizontal stripes: silver above, silver below, and white (representing steam) in the middle, with a symbol of Gond in gold “in its pride” (that is, nicely spaced away from the head of the banner, so it’s almost always visible when the banneris moving, and being affected by wind) superimposed atop the white stripe.


So saith Ed, creator of Lantan, Gond, and the Realms.
love,
THO
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

USA
14020 Posts

Posted - 07 Sep 2011 :  20:50:59  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Baleful Avatar

Dear Ed and THO,
In rural Cormyr I've always assumed you can get something to eat or drink at any time of night in an inn . . . but elsewhere? (I'm talking about traveling strangers, not arriving where someone in your own family lives.) Are there other places that serve "the clock around" in hamlets, villages, and towns? (I'm assuming there are some in cities.) What about abbeys, temples, and monastic settlements/temple farms?
Thanks in advance!
BA
Not Ed, of course....

But anyplace established along a well-traveled trade route, or even more prominently, at the terminus point of said trade routes (like a city/port) would have some accommodations for 'night-owls'. However, not every place at said locations would be very happy with someone banging on their door in the middle of the night (while others would thrive on such, especially the more notorious ones).

Any large town would have some sort of 'after hours' place, unless otherwise restricted by local curfews (and Gate-Closings), but if you travel off the beaten-path, as many of the smaller hamlets and villages in The North are, you will probably get answered with a crossbow in your face, rather then a hot meal. Most of the Dales fall into this category - be warned.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 07 Sep 2011 20:52:59
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Garen Thal
Master of Realmslore

USA
1081 Posts

Posted - 07 Sep 2011 :  21:33:07  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

. . . And Ed replies:

Hi, sfdragon. Some do, some don't; it depends on how much flowing water there is in/through/near the drow city. If water is abundant (large lake, fast-flowing river) AND there's fairly easy access to a lower level of the Underdark (for a sewer to drain away into), a drow city might simply take drinking/cooking/washing/daily life uses water out of the river upstream, and dump polluted water/sewage outflow back into the river downstream...handing the filth on to downstream creatures.
SMART drow communities plant fungus beds/forests that feed on offal/sewage, and either use nightsoil (dung) carts (often hoppers harnessed to the backs of pack lizards) to move the filth well outside the city to the fungus beds . . . or they have sewers flowing into fungus beds, or downriver riverbank fungus beds, tended (by slaves and drow being punished, or sometimes even driders). These strain/clean the water and turn the sewage into food for the fungi, which can be phosphorescent (light sources), edible (food for drow and their pets and workbeasts), and sources of fiber for weaving, various medicines, and oils (for lubrication/protective coatings), or some combination of these uses, depending on the type of fungi (there are literally thousands of different sorts).
Bear in mind that drow sewers are unlikely to be extensive unless they're simplt shafts down into the deeper Underdark (whereupon every drow residence might have its own), and also unlike to be large (as in, tunnels large enough for armed foes, such as enemy drow or human adventurers, to creep through. Drow are paranoid suspicious about such things, and are VERY unlikely to stupidly create large networks that can be traveled through to sidestep their defenses or allow easy escapes.


So saith Ed. Who has indeed thought all of this through, long, long ago.
love,
THO
Also, otyughs.
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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore

USA
1361 Posts

Posted - 07 Sep 2011 :  23:24:11  Show Profile Send Eilserus a Private Message
Hi Ed and THO,

I've been working on an underdark campaign centered around the survivors of destroyed Maerimydra. Any bits of lore you could share about cities or sites of interest in the Underdark of the dalelands area? Thank you. :)
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Blueblade
Senior Scribe

USA
804 Posts

Posted - 08 Sep 2011 :  00:12:05  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
"Destroyed Maerimydra"? When did it get get destroyed?
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Therise
Master of Realmslore

1265 Posts

Posted - 08 Sep 2011 :  01:45:41  Show Profile Send Therise a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Blueblade

"Destroyed Maerimydra"? When did it get get destroyed?
BB


During Lolth's silence, I think 1372-ish.

4E Realms was awful, but it's water under the Boareskyr Bridge. Let's make 5E Realms truly shine!
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Thieran
Learned Scribe

Germany
292 Posts

Posted - 08 Sep 2011 :  15:30:52  Show Profile Send Thieran a Private Message
Immediately upon the beginning of Lolth's Silence on 28 Eleasias 1372, bloody battles erupt between the noble houses of Maerimydra. On 23 Eleint, the half-fiend fire giant Kurgoth Hellspawn attacks the city with his army and lays waste to it in the following tendays.
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Dennis
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9933 Posts

Posted - 09 Sep 2011 :  00:40:32  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message

Hi Ed and Tho!

Why is Larloch known as The Shadow King? Does he also dabble with shadow magic? Was he Telamont's apprentice before Netheril's Fall? Or is it simply because he works in the shadows [behind the scenes], pulling the strings of his puppet-servitors?

Who started calling him that? Adventurers? Enemies who learned their folly of messing with him?

Every beginning has an end.
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

5041 Posts

Posted - 09 Sep 2011 :  03:07:51  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Heh. Dennis, here are some replies from Ed:


Q: Why is Larloch known as The Shadow King?
A: Big Shiny NDA.

Q: Does he also dabble with shadow magic?
A: Smaller, quieter NDA.

Q: Was he Telamont's apprentice before Netheril's Fall?
A: No, not at all. Larloch was far less powerful then than he is now, but Telamont was much, much weaker and socially less important back then, too. (Trust me. I created both of them.)

Q: Or is it simply because he works in the shadows [behind the scenes], pulling the strings of his puppet-servitors?
A: No, but that habit has probably led to much later folk continuing to use/reviving the sobriquet.

Q: Who started calling him that? Adventurers? Enemies who learned their folly of messing with him?
A: NDA for now. Which means There Are Plans, But It's Way Too Early To Say Anything More. Because Plans Are Masterpieces Written On Sand, On A Stormy Beach, With The Tide Coming In. :}


Heh. So saith Ed. Who Knows Whereof He Speaks (and Writes).
love,
THO
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Dennis
Great Reader

9933 Posts

Posted - 09 Sep 2011 :  03:22:12  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message

Perhaps we'll learn more in the next Elminster novel?

Every beginning has an end.
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