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The Hooded One
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Posted - 26 Apr 2011 :  19:43:42  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi, Damian!
Aside from reprints and paperback rereleases, no new novels from Ed before his next Elminster book (BURY ELMINSTER DEEP, due out in hardcover at GenCon/early August 2011), but there are several short stories, including one in NEW HEROES, a Stone Skin Press (Pelgrane) anthology edited by Robin Laws, and of course one in an anthology co-edited by Ed (with Gabrielle Harbowy, who has just joined the scribes here at the Keep), from Dragon Moon Press and starring several Realms alumni (Erik Scott de Bie, Rosemary Jones, Brian Cortijo) and some other interesting names, too (Jay Lake, Todd McCaffrey), entitled WHEN THE HERO COMES HOME.
Ed tells me he's working on more WotC books and more novels for Tor. Yes, plural for both.
I suspect he has other projects he's contractually obligated not to share news of, yet.
love,
THO
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Malcolm
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Posted - 29 Apr 2011 :  18:54:54  Show Profile  Visit Malcolm's Homepage Send Malcolm a Private Message
Dear Ed and THO,
I have another book-related question. Aside from the chapter-head quotes in his novels and the tidbits in Silverfall and some of the Spin A Yarn tales, has Ed penned any of the interior prose of any of the many, many books he's invented for the Realms?
If so, anything he can share with us?
I'm not looking for tons of lore, just the tone and style of a line or two that someone could read out during play...
Thanks!
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Posted - 29 Apr 2011 :  22:10:09  Show Profile Send Marc a Private Message
Did Ed now switch to being a fantasy author? what about the game

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 29 Apr 2011 :  22:53:04  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
Maruluthu Mistrivvin, Ed has ALWAYS been a fantasy writer. From age 6.
For the last forty-ish years, he's been turning out fantasy novels and short stories constantly.
But he has also written (and published) more game material every year than (also published) fiction, and continues to do so.
With both sorts of endeavour, Ed often can't tell us about specific projects until they appear (contrat-mandated secrecy).
Yet rest assured, he's still a very busy game designer.
love,
THO
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Posted - 02 May 2011 :  16:19:58  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Dear Ed and THO,
I've been working through my Ed seminar notes from past GenCons (a MINE of lore hints and some hard info, too) and came across the phrase "they were busy playing Tlacrist." (context: people in a house preoccupied doing something when sneak-thief enters through an upper window, so they never noticed the break-in).
I presume Tlacrist is a game - - and I have the word spelled out in block caps, in the margin, so I know I asked Ed for the spelling, and got it from him - - but it might be a composer's name (i.e. they were playing music) or even something else (insert 'blue' something-or-other here).
So . . . enlighten, please? Share for all scribes?
Thanks!
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 02 May 2011 :  16:42:20  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all. Two answers, this time . . .

Malcolm, Ed has indeed written some passages of text from various of his invented books, but when I asked him for samples to post here, he said: "Sorry, but not yet. NDA right now; waiting for something I can't talk about to be published."
Hmmm. So there, for now, you have it.

Blueblade, Tlacrist is a composer's name, AND it's a game. The folk in that burgled house were playing a game that's named for a long-dead Cormyrean prominent composer, Rellard Tlacrist, because of his habit of inventing irreverent lyrics to "go with" existing ones. (Yes, Ed invented this, years ago.)
The (parlor, not betting) game goes like this: someone recites a line or couplet of well-known verse or lyric, such as:
(to use a real-world example, from Robert Frost):
The woods are lovely, dark and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
Now, most of us familiar with North American poetry know the next two lines very well. If we were playing Tlacrist, however, we'd have to invent replacements on the spot, incorporating a single word provided right then by another player (usually shouted out, but in older versions of the game, words were written on cards before play began, put face down in a random array, and turned up one by one during play; some families or clubs developed "favourite" groups of words that they used for years, in game after game).
So in our example, the other player calls out: "backside!"
That's the word that must appear in the next line or couplet, so our player improvises:
And many a backside now to reap
My lash makes all the maidens weep

. . . And as our example demonstrates, much Tlacrist play tends to be mildly naughty, and fueled by drinking. However, we could just as well have played a more innocent game, answering instead:
And so for home I'll softly creep
Backside warm, snores to peep

. . . Or something equally clumsy of the sort.

Interestingly, according to Ed, Tlacrist composed some marching songs and patriotic songs for the Cormyrean Court, and taught the Court scribes of the day to play this game as a way of adding new and appropirate lyrics, line by line to form new verses, to his patriotic songs (so they could readily be updated, for instance, to reflect new battle-victories or civic achievements, and new monarchs coming to the throne).

So there you have it. More potted Realmslore . . .

Ed, BTW, is hard at work on the next Elminster novel, and loving it.
so love to all,
THO



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Garen Thal
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Posted - 02 May 2011 :  23:23:49  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
Blueblade, Tlacrist is a composer's name, AND it's a game. The folk in that burgled house were playing a game that's named for a long-dead Cormyrean prominent composer, Rellard Tlacrist, because of his habit of inventing irreverent lyrics to "go with" existing ones. (Yes, Ed invented this, years ago.)
Hmm. I played a bit of Tlacrist with Ed following last year's Spin A Yarn at GenCon; the game involved me sending a few new couplets to end the Cormyte's Boast.

I wonder how many he'll use...
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Posted - 04 May 2011 :  02:38:51  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
Hello all,

Ed what have Canines been trained to detect over the years both mundane and magical, poisons and such, basically to counter what someone is trying to hide or creatures trying to avoid detection. I'm thinking that dwarves had certain breeds to help them detect creatures, gasses, ec cetera?
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Hi THO,

Now that Ed seems "less" busy, I was wondering if he's volunteered anything about the astronomy questions I asked back in March (on page 29) ...
quote:
Arik's questions

I have some quick and easy questions (or more correctly, the need for some quick and easy answers) about Realmspace. I've scanned my Realms and spelljammer lore to no avail.

  • Our sun's official name is "Sol" (a word with mythological roots and an ancient and complex etymology). Is there a similar astronomical name for the sun of the Realms? I'm thinking erudites wouldn't simply call it "the sun", nor use some clumsy term like "Lathander's Chariot", "Ra's Orb", etc.

  • About Abeir ... does it have a moon like Selūne, does it have Tears in the sky as well?

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    THO's reply

    Hi, Arik. I seem to recall Ed describing Abeir as having multiple moons. Over to him for a proper response to your queries, of course.
    Cheers

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    Edited by - Ayrik on 04 May 2011 03:21:18
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    I would just wait. Some of us are waiting for answers to questions we asked Ed four years ago, or even longer. Seriously guys, Ed will try to answer when he can, you'll just have to have some patience, or a lot of patience.

    quote:
    Originally posted by Arik

    Hi THO,

    Now that Ed seems "less" busy, I was wondering if he's volunteered anything about the astronomy questions I asked back in March (on page 29) ...
    quote:
    Arik's questions

    I have some quick and easy questions (or more correctly, the need for some quick and easy answers) about Realmspace. I've scanned my Realms and spelljammer lore to no avail.

  • Our sun's official name is "Sol" (a word with mythological roots and an ancient and complex etymology). Is there a similar astronomical name for the sun of the Realms? I'm thinking erudites wouldn't simply call it "the sun", nor use some clumsy term like "Lathander's Chariot", "Ra's Orb", etc.

  • About Abeir ... does it have a moon like Selūne, does it have Tears in the sky as well?

  • quote:
    THO's reply

    Hi, Arik. I seem to recall Ed describing Abeir as having multiple moons. Over to him for a proper response to your queries, of course.
    Cheers


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    Dennis
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    Posted - 04 May 2011 :  07:35:05  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message

    I even have a 1-year old question still waiting for an answer from our esteemed Ed. "Patience is a virtue..."

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    Chosen of Asmodeus
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    Posted - 04 May 2011 :  15:21:46  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Asmodeus's Homepage Send Chosen of Asmodeus a Private Message
    So. Thought passed through my mind earlier; most racial pantheons(elves, drow, dwarves, orcs, goblinkin, giants, dragons) have a clear leader. Their may be treacherous or rebellious deities, but there's no question that Corellon/Lolth/Moradin/Gruumsh is in charge.

    Conversely, the main human/standard pantheon of Faerun lacks that king of hierarchy. A few greater deities may have a couple lesser deities and demigods under their authority, and a few have alliances between them, but there's no clear ruler deity; no skyfather, no godhead.

    Ao doesn't count as he is lord of all the gods on Toril, not just the Faerunian pantheon.

    Why is this? Is it simply because the racial pantheons tend to only have a single greater deity among them to take command? Is it because the racial pantheons have fewer members or are less diverse?

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus

    So. Thought passed through my mind earlier; most racial pantheons(elves, drow, dwarves, orcs, goblinkin, giants, dragons) have a clear leader. Their may be treacherous or rebellious deities, but there's no question that Corellon/Lolth/Moradin/Gruumsh is in charge.

    Conversely, the main human/standard pantheon of Faerun lacks that king of hierarchy. A few greater deities may have a couple lesser deities and demigods under their authority, and a few have alliances between them, but there's no clear ruler deity; no skyfather, no godhead.

    Ao doesn't count as he is lord of all the gods on Toril, not just the Faerunian pantheon.

    Why is this? Is it simply because the racial pantheons tend to only have a single greater deity among them to take command? Is it because the racial pantheons have fewer members or are less diverse?



    One difference is that racial pantheons tend to be families. Another is that with racial pantheons, there are less deities that come in from outside of the group (interlopers from elsewhere; deities that arose without assistance from the main pantheon, etc).

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    Blueblade
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    Posted - 04 May 2011 :  19:26:05  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
    Seems less busy, Arik?
    When he's racing to get an Elminster novel written by mid-May?
    What is this "less busy" you speak of?
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    gomez
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    Posted - 04 May 2011 :  19:53:59  Show Profile  Visit gomez's Homepage Send gomez a Private Message
    I am going through a collection of Ed's Realms tales, and just finished with 'one comes, unheralded, to Zirta'.
    I have to say I am really flabbergasted that this was written by an 8-year old.
    Was it adapted? I ask only cause I can't fathom what Ed was exposed to in order to write of heaving bosoms, lurid verses and laying banshees at that age... Though I may have been too sheltered - I didn't think of that kind of stuff until I was well in my teens (and didn't stop thinking of it since then).

    As to fledling writers... I had a bit of prose put up in a LFR blog (my second one), a bit scrolling down :

    http://community.wizards.com/lfr/blog/2011/05/04/origins_battle_interactive:_adcp3-2_from_dawn_till_dusk

    (My second bit, the other one is at: http://community.wizards.com/lfr/blog/2010/09/06/dale2-3:_hearts_in_shadow_teaser )

    It is not much, but I hope it speaks, and I figured I could as well post a link in hope that if Ed ever reads it, he is willing to give me his honest (and hopefully gentle) opinion.

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    The Hooded One
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    Posted - 04 May 2011 :  20:42:27  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
    gomez, Ed lost his mother when very young, and was already a "bookish" sort. A child prodigy, it's still sometimes called. He was earning income from his writing (nothing to do with the Realms or gaming) by age seven.
    Most importantly, he'd read EVERY SINGLE BOOK in his father's den long since, by then (starting around age 4, apparently), which included many books that were "adult" in various senses of the word. He was also aping the content and to some exten the style of a lot of the pulp adventure tales he'd been reading (again, from his father's collection), and that's where a lot of those heaving bosoms come from.
    (No, boys; mine didn't heave back then.)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by The Hooded One

    gomez, Ed lost his mother when very young, and was already a "bookish" sort. A child prodigy, it's still sometimes called. He was earning income from his writing (nothing to do with the Realms or gaming) by age seven.
    Most importantly, he'd read EVERY SINGLE BOOK in his father's den long since, by then (starting around age 4, apparently), which included many books that were "adult" in various senses of the word. He was also aping the content and to some exten the style of a lot of the pulp adventure tales he'd been reading (again, from his father's collection), and that's where a lot of those heaving bosoms come from.
    (No, boys; mine didn't heave back then.)
    love,
    THO

    I'm sure there were SOME moments when they heaved.

    *ahem*



    Back on topic (not that I mind the distraction of LHO ...), is there any plans for a "Celebrity" game this year that Ed may partake in like the game last year with Matt James?

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    quote:
    Originally posted by The Hooded One

    ... and that's where a lot of those heaving bosoms come from.
    Now there's an image that'll carry me through the day.

    My thanks, Lady.

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    Wow. I now have more respect for Ed than ever. My first attempts as writing were not nearly so mature or polished. A prodigy indeed!

    I've an unusual question for Ed. I've read that some people in the Realms keep tressyms as pets- are there any special "breeds" of these flying felines, and do people train them for any special tricks or purposes? I'd like to know more about these creatures, especially about how they are raised, and if there are specific breeders of them.

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    Posted - 05 May 2011 :  15:33:17  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
    Hi. Obviously I'm not Ed or THO, but I happened to be eavesdropping (hanging out with and listening to) Ed at a Phantasm (the annual tiny Peterborough, Ontario gaming con) years back when someone asked him about tressym breeds and breeding.

    According to my notes, Ed said they like dwelling with and near and being around people [humans, halflings, gnomes, elves, half-elves] but don't seem to want to breed if caged or kept from flying [e.g. wings clipped]. Some people have tried to breed for specific markings, hues of fur, etc. with fair success by just putting specific tressym together, but it's up to the tressym. Yes, there are breeds that have some different body features, but they're very rare, wild, and seldom seen.

    That's all I've got, so like you I'll be waiting for Ed or THO to say more.
    (I'm still amazed by just how much Ed THINKS through, all the little details, even though I've seen evidence of his doing so again and again.)
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    Hi again, all.
    Ashe, I've asked Ed about that...and he just doesn't know. He says these things tend to shake down much closer to the con, if past years are any judge.
    (Yes, I KNOW that's frustrating to anyone trying to work out a packed con schedule in advance. Sorry.)
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    Interesting, although I wasn't thinking of clipping wings or caging them- just having "tressym catteries" or people who simply keep unusual breeds as pets and breed them for profit or because they want to develop new markings, body-traits, or what-have-you. Might we see tressym versions of a Siamese or Scottish Fold? That would be interesting to me- hearing what sort of unique or rare types have cropped up, when, where, and how. (Were they purposely bred, or just occur spontaneously and later increased?)

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

    quote:
    Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus

    So. Thought passed through my mind earlier; most racial pantheons(elves, drow, dwarves, orcs, goblinkin, giants, dragons) have a clear leader. Their may be treacherous or rebellious deities, but there's no question that Corellon/Lolth/Moradin/Gruumsh is in charge.

    Conversely, the main human/standard pantheon of Faerun lacks that king of hierarchy. A few greater deities may have a couple lesser deities and demigods under their authority, and a few have alliances between them, but there's no clear ruler deity; no skyfather, no godhead.

    Ao doesn't count as he is lord of all the gods on Toril, not just the Faerunian pantheon.

    Why is this? Is it simply because the racial pantheons tend to only have a single greater deity among them to take command? Is it because the racial pantheons have fewer members or are less diverse?



    One difference is that racial pantheons tend to be families. Another is that with racial pantheons, there are less deities that come in from outside of the group (interlopers from elsewhere; deities that arose without assistance from the main pantheon, etc).



    Alrighty then. So, for THO, was this how Ed originally intended it, or was there to be a leader among the gods?

    Also, unrelated question; has cruxifiction ever been a popular method of execution on Toril? If so, where & when?

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    I have three questions for Ed. Two are focused on worship and the nature of divinity in the Realms. The third is focused on divine spell casters.

    It seems obvious to me that there is no real notion of 'faith' in the Realms, as we'd understand it in the real world - it's impossible to doubt their existence due to the myriad of ways they manifest themselves in the world. (It ranges from dream visions, to minor manifestations of their power, to the occasional avatar, to the divine power wielded by their priests, etc.)

    However, the nature of belief is quite different from faith. It's possible to understand that something exists, but have a different conception of that being than someone else. The most obvious example involves Lathander and his various heresies.

    In Powers and Pantheons it was theorized how belief could potentially shape a deity... which brings me to my first question.

    How much power does popular belief actually have on a deity?

    This question is important as it determines the level of free will a deity has - if popular beliefs change over time, does it mean the deity changes with it? Just to what degree can a deity shape the beliefs of its worshipers?

    Is ascension to divinity similar to being a prisoner to your own power? For example, do you ascend to divinity only to learn that you have amazing cosmic powers, but it comes at a price: your freedom? (And thus you'd find yourself shaped and beholden to your worshipers and your portfolios.)

    --------

    The second half of my question involves actual religious practices and worship within the Realms.

    It is very clear that the Realms is largely a Polytheistic culture. We get a large overhead view of religion in the Realms through the various source books devoted to such things, but my interest is what worship is like on a local level. I understand things may differ from culture to culture, and so this question is primarily directed at Faerūn and its pantheon.

    We've seen a lot of pantheon hopping among the deities. Sharess used to be called Bhast and be part of the Mulhorandi Pantheon, and has overtime undergone a metamorphosis into her current persona. Talos used to be called Kozah and was worshiped by the Netherese. He has likewise undergone a metamorphosis... Shar and Selūne, likewise worshiped among the Netherese have changed over time as well.

    This appears to be a common theme in the Realms. I am getting a very strong Roman vibe from Faerūnians, in which they absorb gods and goddesses when they incorporate foreign peoples into their local culture. As a result, while there may be popular myths and beliefs about certain deities, on a local level you end up with odd overlap and contradiction.

    Among the Romans worship was free-form, and their deities were polymorphic in nature (possessing multiple forms, personae, attributes, or aspects). Thus a virgin deity in one aspect could be a mother in another. Any deity could potentially be a manifestation of a number of other deities, though of course not everyone would agree about the particulars.

    In our culture and modern world, we often view things through a monotheistic lens. Orthodoxy is important in the three largest monotheistic religions (Islam, Christianity, and Judaism). However, among the Romans and virtually every other polytheistic culture the right belief (orthodoxy) wasn't stressed nearly to the degree it is in monotheism.

    Instead, the trend was toward orthopraxy, where correct rituals and actions were stressed instead. These rituals were viewed as fulfilling obligations, and if done correctly the deities would bless their worshipers. The relationship between a deity and their worshiper was seen as reciprocal. (I do X for the gods, and the gods do Y for me.)

    A failure to act in a certain way or perform a certain ritual could incur the wrath of the gods.

    Thus, in the Realms if a plague happens people suddenly begin praying to Talona - after all a plague would be viewed as failure to appease her and now mortals have incurred her wrath. Conversely, if a military commander lost a battle he may be accused of failing to properly appease Red Knight or Tempus (or both). Or if there is a crop failure, then it must be a failure to appease Chauntea, and thus she did not bless the land to be plentiful. Etc. etc.

    This brings me to my second question.

    Does orthodoxy play a large role in the worship of the deities (from a local perspective)?

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    My final question: Do all priests / clergy of the various faiths have divine spell casting ability?

    In other words, are there some priests / clergy of the various faiths that are simply mundane people who tend to the faithful and conduct various rituals? Or when someone encounters a priest of a deity will they always possess some measure of divine spell casting ability?

    Thanks for any answers you can give, Ed. I apologize for the length of my post, but I'm curious as to whether my conception of the Realms and its deities and worshipers is incorrect.
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    althen artren
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    Posted - 09 May 2011 :  04:38:45  Show Profile Send althen artren a Private Message
    Great, thats what the Realms need: insane chocolate point Siamese tressym.
    Pass, no thank you.
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