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The Sage
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Posted - 31 Dec 2010 :  16:13:42  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message  Delete Topic
Well met

This being a continued collection of scrolls of any questions the Scribes and visitors of Candlekeep wish to put to a master who needs no introduction, namely - Ed Greenwood, creator of the Forgotten Realms.

Ed's works include MANY FR sourcebooks and numerous novels, such as Cormyr: A Novel, Spellfire, Silverfall, The Shadows of the Avatar Trilogy and The Elminster Series, to name but a few.

Present your questions herein and check back to see what news may also come forth from the quill of this author.

For previous entries of the many, many writings of lore by Ed, please see the 2010 entries in this collection of scrolls, the 2009 entries here the 2008 entries here, the 2007 entries here, the 2006 entries here, the 2005 entries here, and the 2004 entries here. 'ware, these run into over 80 pages, ye may be reading for some time. For a concise read of Ed's replies, visit the "So Saith Ed" page on the Candlekeep site.

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The Sage
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Posted - 31 Dec 2010 :  16:19:51  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
And just to keep all scribes updated on the "So Saith Ed" compilations I've been working on... I'm cooperating with Alaundo to have all the files up to 31 December 2010 uploaded to Candlekeep by the end of this month. And we'll try to keep the updates for 2011 flowing just as smoothly too.

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Many thanks and wishes of a happy and healthy New Year for Ed and his family as well as THO and her loved ones.
If the new year is anywhere near as productive as Ed's latest flurry of lore, all the scribes here will have a bountiful New Years indeed!

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Yes, a hearty "Thank You" to Ed and THO for the last few days of rich Realmslore. And for those interested in Golarion, the third instalment of Ed's "Guns of Alkenstar" went up yesterday (or perhaps earlier) at the Paizo site (Pathfinder Tales, Web Fiction). It's great fun reading, thus far . . . though as it's now halfway through, I suspect Ed doesn't have wordcount left to explain a lot. This one's going to leave mysteries unanswered and PAIZO scribes wanting lore-answers!

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The show must go on!

Happy New Year Ed, THO, and all of my fellow scribes.

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Oooh, goody, I get the first question of 2011! Even though, technically, it's still 2010 over here.

O, Mysterious Lady THO, my question is thus: did Ed ever make any use of the Gith races in his Realms campaigning, even if only for random encounters?

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 31 Dec 2010 :  20:24:44  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Yes indeed he did. At least two Githyanki warbands/raiding forces that we fought. Not to mention some sort of weird undead floating Gith wraith, that watched what we did from various aerial locations out of our reach for a while.
Ed's home campaign is full of little mysteries . . . that display up front, hiding the bigger ones.
love,
THO

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Undead floating Gith wraith? Ed, you know I'm going to want to hear more about this...

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The Hooded One
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Heh. Duly forwarded to Ed.
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The Red Walker
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Heh. Duly forwarded to Ed.
love,
THO



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The Hooded One
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Remember that old cliche about no rest for the wicked?
I lie down from time to time, but it's seldom rest . . . if you know what I mean . . .
love,
THO
P.S. And I'm sure you do...

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Chosen of Asmodeus
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Posted - 01 Jan 2011 :  12:15:21  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Asmodeus's Homepage Send Chosen of Asmodeus a Private Message
Alrighty. Was browsing around TV tropes the other day and happened across the Author Appeal page, regarding things that apparently appeal to various authors(generally speaking, fetishes) that repeated across their works. There was an entry about Ed, which included two links(one to this forum, one of the previous year Q&A threads, as a matter of fact), one to another sight showcasing a post from Ed. The basic point being made was Ed's interest in his characters' sex lives. The second link in question is here;

http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=291731

Now, I found this fairly amusing, though I didn't hold any personal judgement against Ed(I'm just as bad when it comes to this particular subject), nor do I necessarily apply the derogatory terms Sue/Mary sue to Alustrial based on that evidence. But, during a conversation with a friend of mine on the subject(as well as the realms in general) it was brought up(by me) that Obould Many-Arrows vaguely fits the criteria of political foe; being the leader of a neighboring state who, while not openly hostile, wasn't exactly friendly.

Now, while this may or may not apply to Wizard's "offical" version of the Realms, in Ed's version, is it possible that Alustrial has/had a half-orc kid bearing a striking resemblance to Obould running around?

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Snowblood
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Dear Ed can you tell us the name of the realm established by the Srinshee's followers in the north of Cormanthor? Oh and whilst I remember apart from Sharlarion....can you tell us the names of any other Aryvandaran cities and their approximate locations and foci????

Aryvandaar, Ilythiir, Arnothoi, Orva, Sarphil, Anauria/Asram/Hlondath, Uvaeren, Braceldaur, Ilodhar, Lisenaar, Imaskar, Miyeritar, Orishaar, Shantel Othrieir, Keltormir, Eaerlann, Ammarindar, Siluvanede, Sharrven, Illefarn, Ardeep, Rystal Wood, Evereska are all available here for download:http://phasai.deviantart.com/gallery/

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The Hooded One
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Hi again, all.
Chosen of Asmodeus, it seems VERY unlikely to me that Alustriel would have any half-orc offspring in Ed's Realms.
Considering the timing of Obould's rise to rulership vis-a-vis Alustriel's change in position from ruling Silverymoon to "overqueen" of the Silver Marches, it's unlikely that Alustriel and Obould have ever met, and pretty unlikely that any potential sire of Obould would have graced (if that's the right term) Alustriel's embrace on any earlier occasion.
Most of the posters in that forum, like most who comment on Ed's "dirty old man" side (and for that matter, most who point at Mary Sues here, there, and everywhere in any writer's canon), make the basic mistake of applying THEIR modern real-world "politically correct" viewpoints to an invented fantasy setting that's medieval-cum-Renaissance, but NOT based directly on our real world (close-to-real-world TSR or WotC additions notwithstanding), because for one thing, the "real" European medieval and Renaissance times would have been FAR different with plentiful whiz-bang-spells magic that worked, and for another, the Realms has a balanced polytheism rather than one dominant faith.
Such posters then sit in judgement, as all gamers tend to, in a manner that would be considered rude at best when applied to fiction-only fantasy (only overreaching academics opine at length on what Tolkien or McCaffrey thought/thinks when writing, in innermost detail that they can only guess at or invent, but pretend to "know," or expound upon the "obvious from their writings" sexual preferences of such authors). Both academics and gamers often make the basic mistake of confusing what a CHARACTER says or does or thinks with what the AUTHOR believes (piffle on the face of it, when examining any story that features characters who disagree with each other or wind up in conflict, which is darned near every piece of interesting fiction one is likely to encounter; if characters differ, they can't all be following the author's views, can they? And if an academic/gamer posting on the Net starts to choose which character views are "really" those of the author and which aren't, they're doing just that: making their own choice, without consulting with the author).
If it wasn't so exasperating, this tendency would be amusing. Both Ed and I are old enough to remember (as children) the famous sf editor John Campbell, who would read a submitted story with aliens fighting humans over a milk jug and say something like: "Promising story, but I've read this sort of thing SO many times before. So if you want me to accept it, try it again from the point of view of the milk jug." (So, pundits, are the views of the milk jug those of the author? You're absolutely sure? How about providing some proof? You know, the way everyone else is expected to do in society when they make a baseless accusation . . .)
The younger and more online-voluble gamers tend to forget that the Realms began as the fantasy setting of a SIX YEAR OLD writing fiction for his own entertainment, before the D&D game even existed. (A six-year-old growing up during the "free love," Woodstock Swinging Sixties, mind you.) They also miss the point that Ed has always designed the Realms in depth, looking for the "whys" behind everything, from distributions of minerals to genetics (and that from 1978 or so onwards he's been trying to "explain away" details and inconsistencies in the rules of D&D, as they apply to the Realms).
Most posters also ignore the theme that Ed has been steadily exploring with his Chosen (characters which TSR and now WotC insisted on bringing to the foreground, mind you, NOT Ed): the insanity, loneliness, and repeated wrenching losses of being a Chosen who lives for centuries, outliving lovers, friends, entire families, and whole COUNTRIES, time and again, and what it does to the minds of humans struggling to find reasons for going on, something beloved to cling to.
The Simbul is wildly barking mad, Khelben became a martinet, Elminster is a whimsical, cynical survivor, Alustriel needs constant physical loving, Storm mothers many while nursing largely unrequited inner passions, and so on.
All very different reactions, which are shifting over the novels Ed writes - - and yet the loudest Net posters cherry-pick what they want to from this huge creative canon and shout that it reveals this or that about Ed. As various of my professors would have sighed, "Lazy, lazy thinking. You have a brain; from time to time, try USING it."
Alustriel is promiscuous FROM A MODERN REAL-WORLD NORTH AMERICAN VIEW (one not shared by all North Americans; witness the various polygamist sects and families to be found in North America today). She binds folk to her as friends and lovers by her warm love and friendship, preferring to achieve political results through love rather than war, whenever possible, and tries to assuage her personal loneliness at the same time.
She is NOT undiscerning, and although she would unhesitatingly have bedded battalions of orcs to secure peace between humans and orcs n the North, she's just not that stupid (to think that having half-orc offspring could have much of an effect at all on human/orc relationships, and to secure any sort of peace between them).
A similar lazy understanding of the Realms is betrayed by those who post that the Chosen are goody-goodies, and that their own PCs can't adventure because "the good guys" are in the way, defeating evil and solving things first...or that this or that Chosen was portrayed "out of character" because they didn't do a sufficiently noble thing here or there, at this or that place and time. Such gamers overlook the repeatedly-made point that the Chosen are NOT necessarily "good guys," but rather the uneasy servants of Mystra, who do Her bidding, acting for "more magic for all" over everything else.
All of this makes me shake my head. One doesn't read too many online rants about how George Lucas's Jedi Knights (or Imperial Stormtroopers) don't follow the rules of being good Baskin-Robbins employees, yes? So why then are elements of the Realms so repeatedly and enthusiastically trashed for not being things they were never intended to be or presented as?
Ed is interested in his character's sex lives in the same way as National Geographic writers try to understand and present every aspect of an unfamiliar-to-their-readers tribe: explaining it all, with sex as one of the basic human (and other sentient races) motivators. Something that was in the Gygaxian D&D game (dwarves, elves, and so many of their central conflicts and cultural details) when Ed started playing it.
I happen to know Ed personally, and to be far more flirtatious than he is, and am in a position to say that anyone who can conclude anything about Ed's personal sexual preferences/fetishes from the published Realms (beyond a personal preference for females as sexual partners) is overreaching at best - - and indulging in unsupported speculation in the main.
Not that you touched a nerve or anything, Chosen of Asmodeus.
I simply think that these sort of topics are tiresome, have been argued over before WAY too many times, and take time and space on Net threads that could be devoted to more creative and rewarding discussions.
Most posters can't even stick to a consistent definition of "Mary Sue" (or for that matter, "pervert"). They shift it, from one end of an argument to the other, to apply to whatever they want to point at, and decry.
Me, I haven't enough years left in my life to spend many more minutes on such codswallop. Nor, I suspect, does Ed. Who's written literally hundreds more novels, game products, and so on than the vast majority of the posters who sneer at him.
So I doubt Alustriel's had any half-orc offspring. Yet I will ask Ed if she has, for you . . .
(Because I'm not angry with you for bringing this up. That doesn't place you among the guilty. )
love,
THO

Edited by - The Hooded One on 01 Jan 2011 21:42:44
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Dalor Darden
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Kick ass THO!

I've never understood why once person is grown and is interested in partners of a similar age why it is thought that they "outgrow" that preference.

We are attracted to who we are attracted to...and only the advent of Monotheistic CULTURAL values have made it so that we are only "allowed" certain preferences...though in NO SCRIPTURE is it prescribed at what ages we are allowed to relate intimately with specific ages.

It speaks to me that younger inexperienced individuals wanted to keep the young women to their own devices because they can't compete with older and more experienced men.

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Good morrow to you all. I have a few Thay-based questions for Mr. Greenwood and the good Lady Hooded.

At what age does a child in Thay begin to study magic, and what is a common driving force in the selection of a particular magical school? If we take the daughter of a moderately wealthy and influential Abjurer father in Thay, is she likely to be raised to study the same magical school as her parent or are there academies ( la Hogwarts, I suppose) that advise and tutor on which school fits the aspiring spellcaster best?

I suppose my interest lies in whether something so arcane as a specialist school is the kind of study that's passed from parent to child, or something the child somehow picks during adolescence. Or does it differ from case to case, and there is no common answer?

From the Simbul's Gift we know that Lauzoril was an enchanter while his father was a necromancer and from Spellbound we know Aznar Thrul was an invoker while Nymor Thrul was an illusionist, but these could be the exceptions rather than the rules, and I'd be very interested in finding out how the future specialisation of an aspiring Red Wizard is determined.

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quote:
The Hooded One

Most of the posters ... who comment on Ed's "dirty old man" side (and for that matter, most who point at Mary Sues here, there, and everywhere in any writer's canon), make the basic mistake of applying THEIR modern real-world "politically correct" viewpoints to an invented fantasy setting ... Such posters then sit in judgement [and cherry-pick], as all gamers tend to, in a manner that would be considered rude at best ... [and] often make the basic mistake of confusing what a CHARACTER says or does or thinks with what the AUTHOR believes ... without consulting with the author ... Not that you touched a nerve or anything ...
These are interesting observations. I've created the Why do Realms authors put up with it? scroll for such talk, so that it won't clutter up Ed's thread (or aggravate THO any more).
quote:
The Hooded One

The Simbul is wildly barking mad, Khelben became a martinet, Elminster is a whimsical, cynical survivor, Alustriel needs constant physical loving, Storm mothers many while nursing largely unrequited inner passions, and so on.
These are great summaries (although slightly incompatible with some of the ones I formed for these characters). Thanx, THO!

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Ah, of course. Never play leapfrog with a unicorn.
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which city/town/whatever in 4e realms would be closes to the Lake of Steam area that would have a temple to Torm or Ilmater??



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Heya,

Happy New Year everyone.

I just wanted to respond to THO's excellent post by adding that Ed Greenwood is not the only writer in the world to have people rabidly attacking their work based on their own codes of morality. Many many many authors (also other creators of entertainment, and even ordinary people just trying to express their opinions) experience the same thing on the Internet. I think it is summed up best by John Gabriel's Internet [Uncouth Person] Theory, which (more politely put than the original comic) is: Give a person anonymity and an audience, and their behaviour changes for the worse.

The other thing I'd like to mention is that sometimes it is difficult to leave behind real life baggage. I know this because there are a few Realmsian things that make me twitch (and a couple that make me cringe with dismay). I hope I'm a bit more polite about my objections than some people. But I digress from the point I was trying to make, which is that people see things through the lens of their own experiences, and to ask that someone view the Realms without Real World baggage is a huge huge thing, and something that frankly is not always possible.

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Chosen of Asmodeus
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Well. That was...more of an answer than I was expecting, though I suppose I should have expected more having given more backdrop than necessary to the question of whether or not there was a possibility that Alustrial and Obould had at any time shared a bed. I do apologize if I caused any offense; like I said, I don't hold any judgement towards Ed(or anyone else) for his writing that (deserved or not) earned him the title of "dirty old man" among certain groups. I have personally come under fire from people not making the author/character separation in some of my own writing, so I do have an idea of how it feels. The question was asked mainly in jest, so again, apologies if any nerve touching was done.

Though that answer doesn't bode well for the idea I had for a game where a silve-haired half-orc shows up in Many-Arrows and causes a succession crisis. Oh well, back to the drawing board.

Ok, questions, questions. I've asked too much about orcs. Lets try something with my name-sake. I haven't had a chance to pick up Elminster Must Die! yet, but I understand the ending contains hints of Mystra possibly being restored to god-hood in the future. Asmodeus (re)attained godhood by killing Azuth and absorbing his divinity, which was made possible by Mystra's death and the destruction of her realm. My question is, hypothetically, what would Mystra's ressurection mean for Asmodeus, his divinity, and his church, and if he were to catch wind of a possible plot/plan/scheme/movement to restore Mystra to life, how concerned would the Supreme of the Nine Hells be with stopping it, if at all?

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Quick follow up on Tsornyl:

Were there Tsornan elves left outside of the wards in 75, as well?

And as a response to the information you gave: Thank you! That was nothing like what I imagined would be the response.

It has all been for the purpose of fleshing out the character background of a PC in my game. He had made a dhampyr half-elven character and we had put his family as being the Tsornyl family. His mother had beed magically seduced by a vampire and this had resulted in his birth. He now seeks his father to slay him with as much angst as possible. The character has been in hibernation for some ten years having been injured by a moander-spawned creature in Phlan, in 1340.

I'm thinking that one of these ancestor Tsornan's may have been responsible hoping to add more life back into the house or to gain a proper heir/ward/squire/spawn.

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Well Met All

I have a few questions about the Roaringhorns please (both Cormyte and Waterdhadvian).

From the 3.5 Web enhancement (discussed here) we know that the Roaringhorns were enobled in Waterdeep first 948DR and then in Cormyr 1016DR.

This is earlier than outlined in City of Splendors and City System box sets which state that general enoblement took place from 1248DR onwards. Can I assume that some familes were enobled before that in a haphazard way perhaps unrecognized by most of Waterdeep? (the first lore entry is from the Grand History 942DR Talmost family). Am wondering who enobled them and others before Ahghairon took over in 1032DR?


Re the Cormyr branch (pre spellplague):
Apart from horse breeding what other businesses do they derive the majority of their income from? Whereabouts are they based? Any notables in the family i.e. crown agents/traitors/priests or spellhurlers; Anyone of marriageable age?

They are about to become major antagonists or allies of the players dependent on how the next roll-playing session goes so any additional lore to what I have made up would be greatly appreciated

Kind regards and Happy New Year to all at Candlekeep

Damian

So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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Posted - 04 Jan 2011 :  00:33:31  Show Profile  Visit Christopher_Rowe's Homepage Send Christopher_Rowe a Private Message
A spontaneous game of venery broke out tonight in another scroll and that made me think to search and see if Ed had ever offered up any of those wonderful collective nouns particularly for the Realms. Back in 2004, he listed a "terms of venery article" as one that never saw the light of day in the early days of the published Realms. Are there any terms from that article Ed can share with us?

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Christopher

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 04 Jan 2011 :  00:46:42  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all!
Christopher, I'll have to check with Ed on the status of that long, exhaustive (as of the original MONSTER MANUAL "new beastie types," that is) article . . . as in, if TSR bought it and therefore owns it, or not.

Damian, great questions (as usual!), and off they go to Ed.

Rhewtani, Ed says YES. There were Tsornyl elves "well off elsewhere" (traveling/visiting others) at the time of Moander's attack, and there were a handful on the spot but just outside the wards. So, you have a free hand on their fates and descendants, if any.

Must run now. Real life intrudes (sigh).
love to all,
THO
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Faraer
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Posted - 04 Jan 2011 :  16:49:52  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
Not that you touched a nerve or anything, Chosen of Asmodeus.

Sex plays a smaller role in Ed's published stories than in real life or most kinds of fiction, though larger than in Code-of-Ethics-bowdlerized TSR product or Saturday-morning cartoons. There's opinion (personal perspectives and priorities), and there's the blatantly non-veridical. THO's commentary is valid in general but gives far more credit than these particular ideas deserve.

'Mary Sue' long ago became one of those critical concepts with a negative overall value, usually used so vaguely as to apply to most heroes or protagonists, and deployed mainly as a sneer.

Happy new year, everyone!
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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 05 Jan 2011 :  18:43:20  Show Profile  Click to see Alystra Illianniis's MSN Messenger address Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message
Another question- do you have any specific lore on the town of Lothen? History, people, places of note, local customs and religions, and the like would all be appreciated. It seems there is little to be found on it.

The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.

"Where Science ends, Magic begins" -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491

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http://sylinde.deviantart.com/#/d2z6e4u
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