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Jelennet
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Posted - 25 Dec 2010 :  10:27:31  Show Profile Send Jelennet a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I enjoy reading fantasy stories about love. Drizzt has fallen in love with Cattie-brie, Liriel with Fyodor, etc. So what is the greatest love story in the Realms and why?

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Laeral Silverhand Arunsun and Khelben Arunsun. Nuff said.

My personal favorite is Alea Dahast and Baerauble Etharr. Curse whoever decided to separate them by making Baerauble the Crown Mage of Cormyr and Alea leave with Iliphar...

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Shadril and Narm, or Elminster and The Simbul...

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A tie between Liriel-Fyodor and Laeral-Khelben. On the other hand, I always find Elminster and Alassra an odd couple. They are close in actual age, but I imagine The Simbul maintaining her 30's looks, while Elminster looks really old.

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For pure epic-ness I'd go with Khelben and Laeral.
For best written one I'd say Arilyn and Danilo.

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Posted - 25 Dec 2010 :  13:46:08  Show Profile  Visit Synthalus's Homepage Send Synthalus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
(Laeral Silverhand Arunsun and Khelben Arunsun. Nuff said.)


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Elminster and the Simbul...
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Alias and the saurial Dragonbait - not romantic lovers (that would be squicky) but "soulmates" bonded through magic, adversity, companionship, and shared experience. Alternately, the tragedy of failed budding love between Lathander and Tyche, or between Helm and Murdane; both tales more epic in scope than little mortals like Khelben and Laeral.

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quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

For pure epic-ness I'd go with Khelben and Laeral.
For best written one I'd say Arilyn and Danilo.



I'd have to agree. Though with Khelben and Laeral, what makes the story special to me is the centuries it took them to actually get together.

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quote:
Originally posted by Arik

Alias and the saurial Dragonbait - not romantic lovers (that would be squicky) but "soulmates" bonded through magic, adversity, companionship, and shared experience. Alternately, the tragedy of failed budding love between Lathander and Tyche, or between Helm and Murdane; both tales more epic in scope than little mortals like Khelben and Laeral.



Alias and Dragonbait consider each other to be siblings.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

For pure epic-ness I'd go with Khelben and Laeral.
For best written one I'd say Arilyn and Danilo.



I'd have to agree. Though with Khelben and Laeral, what makes the story special to me is the centuries it took them to actually get together.

That, and the fact that it kinda reminds me of the way the Lady K and I got together... though without as many centuries.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

For pure epic-ness I'd go with Khelben and Laeral.
For best written one I'd say Arilyn and Danilo.



I'd have to agree. Though with Khelben and Laeral, what makes the story special to me is the centuries it took them to actually get together.

That, and the fact that it kinda reminds me of the way the Lady K and I got together... though without as many centuries.



Obviously, it wasn't on the to-do list!

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Markustay
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Semmemon and Ashemi, because it's so unexpected.

Thus proving true love can be found in the darkest of hearts.

Heroes who fall in love are a dime-a-dozen.
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Obviously, it wasn't on the to-do list!
The Lady K WASN'T on Sage's 'to do' list?

Even I'm not scoundrel enough to take that one any further...

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Um, MT? I think you just did... My vote- Liriel and Fyodor or Danilo and Arilyn. Both very good couples. Too bad about the end for Liriel and Fyodor, though.

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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Semmemon and Ashemi, because it's so unexpected.

Thus proving true love can be found in the darkest of hearts.

Heroes who fall in love are a dime-a-dozen.
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Obviously, it wasn't on the to-do list!
The Lady K WASN'T on Sage's 'to do' list?

Even I'm not scoundrel enough to take that one any further...

I do believe we've covered this ground before --




quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Lady Kazandra

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Yes, you're on my list, too, but it's just another "To-Do" objective that I've not had the time to complete.
I'm on the list too. Aren't I?



I would hope that you'd be too much of a priority to make the to-do list. The to-do list should be for stuff to do later, not immediately.

Her priority status largely depends on her mood.


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Elfinblade
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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Semmemon and Ashemi, because it's so unexpected.

Thus proving true love can be found in the darkest of hearts.




Seconded :)
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Adding to the chorus: in the category romantic drama:Laeral and Khelben. Many centuries of touch-and-go, then touch, and (relatively quickly) go. In the category romantic comedy: Danilo and Arilyn.

Dishonourable mention (because it shows that the old boy has a heart, of sorts): Manshoon and Symgharyl (sp?) "the Shadowsil" Maruel. After all, Manny rode out to avenge her. Not the man's regular habit.
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Zireael
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No one mentions Alea & Baerauble? Nobody ever noticed them?

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Dennis
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Tammith and Bareris deserve an honorable mention. Despite that he knew his lover's soul had been shattered the moment she was turned into a vampire, he never stopped believing she would remember him, not as an enemy, but as her fiance.

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quote:
Originally posted by Elfinblade

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Semmemon and Ashemi, because it's so unexpected.

Thus proving true love can be found in the darkest of hearts.




Seconded :)



I'll agree. That one is another good call.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Elfinblade

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Semmemon and Ashemi, because it's so unexpected.

Thus proving true love can be found in the darkest of hearts.




Seconded :)



I'll agree. That one is another good call.

Actually, I'm curious as to whether Krash might have something to add to this. Might have to ask him in his scroll.

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Zireael
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quote:
Originally posted by dennis

Tammith and Bareris deserve an honorable mention. Despite that he knew his lover's soul had been shattered the moment she was turned into a vampire, he never stopped believing she would remember him, not as an enemy, but as her fiance.



Which book are they from?

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quote:
Originally posted by Zireael

quote:
Originally posted by dennis

Tammith and Bareris deserve an honorable mention. Despite that he knew his lover's soul had been shattered the moment she was turned into a vampire, he never stopped believing she would remember him, not as an enemy, but as her fiance.



Which book are they from?



The Haunted Lands trilogy. Their love story provided a little "light" to the rather dark atmosphere of the series.

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Liriel and Fyodor.

It has everything: a rocky relationship, pathos, drama, and at the end, true deep love. Which is all the more powerful because Liriel came from a culture devoid of true love, so she had to learn all of what that entailed.


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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Elfinblade

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Semmemon and Ashemi, because it's so unexpected.

Thus proving true love can be found in the darkest of hearts.




Seconded :)



I'll agree. That one is another good call.

Actually, I'm curious as to whether Krash might have something to add to this. Might have to ask him in his scroll.

As an armchair psychologist (my degree in special education was never completed, but I did take more then a couple of psych courses), and with some of my own 'worldliness' (In other words, I've met quite a number of very strange folks in my day), I would say there is an 'eeewww' element involved in-there somewhere.

I don't want to get too sexual (because this really isn't the site for THAT kind of fan-fic), but Ashemi obviously has a certain amount of 'tomboy-ness' in her (to put it delicately), and Semmemon seems the type to be a wee bit 'gender confused' (thats not actually the proper term for what I am thinking, but it applies to a certain RW person I know that likes women who behave like men).

It seems obvious to me that Sememmon is attracted to her because she is not 'prissy-feminine'.

Which makes me now wonder if the Zhentarrim ever practiced a Sparta-like 'warrior brotherhood' type of... ummmm... social behavior. I believe something along these lines was asked of Ed once, but I don't think the Zhents were specifically mentioned (in either question or answer in regards to those types of situations).

In any case, Ashemi would be considered a 'handsome woman', which attracts a certain type of male.

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Therise
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quote:
...I don't want to get too sexual (because this really isn't the site for THAT kind of fan-fic), but Ashemi obviously has a certain amount of 'tomboy-ness' in her (to put it delicately), and Semmemon seems the type to be a wee bit 'gender confused' (thats not actually the proper term for what I am thinking, but it applies to a certain RW person I know that likes women who behave like men).

It seems obvious to me that Sememmon is attracted to her because she is not 'prissy-feminine'.

Which makes me now wonder if the Zhentarrim ever practiced a Sparta-like 'warrior brotherhood' type of... ummmm... social behavior. I believe something along these lines was asked of Ed once, but I don't think the Zhents were specifically mentioned (in either question or answer in regards to those types of situations).

In any case, Ashemi would be considered a 'handsome woman', which attracts a certain type of male.


Wow... I didn't ever get the impression that Ashemmi was uh... masculine, or butchy. And I didn't ever picture Semmemon being femme, not at all. On the contrary, I always sort of pictured Ashemmi as the classic "rescued lass in peril" when it came to her relationship with Semmemon. He always seemed like a "regular guy" although pragmatic, fearless and of course evil. But not evil with a capital E.

Where did you get this from? Maybe I've missed something. Like completely.


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Edited by - Therise on 26 Dec 2010 21:04:59
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