| Author |
 Topic  |
|
|
Tremaine
Seeker
United Kingdom
86 Posts |
 Posted - 17 Dec 2010 : 18:31:56
|
I've finally got round to reading undead it's a real page turner
I've been reading realm novels on and off over the years so I probably missed some vital information and a bit confused, can someone help please
Anyway there is a scene when Bane appears to Szass Tam which is a really cool scene, but I thought he was dead in Finders Bane Iyachtu Xvim had replaced Bane and in Stormlight I thought Bane had failed again but its been a long time since I read those novels so maybe i was wrong, when did Bane make a comeback and is he in any other novel's
Thanks for the Help all 
|
|
|
Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
Posted - 17 Dec 2010 : 18:40:46
|
quote:
Originally posted by Tremaine
I've finally got round to reading undead it's a real page turner
I've been reading realm novels on and off over the years so I probably missed some vital information and a bit confused, can someone help please
Anyway there is a scene when Bane appears to Szass Tam which is a really cool scene, but I thought he was dead in Finders Bane Iyachtu Xvim had replaced Bane and in Stormlight I thought Bane had failed again but its been a long time since I read those novels so maybe i was wrong, when did Bane make a comeback and is he in any other novel's
Thanks for the Help all
Bane made a comeback in 1371 DR, don't remember the exact date and month. That was when Iyachtu Xvim died.
As for Stormlight, I don't know. |
SiNafay Vrinn, the daughter of Lloth, from Ched Nasad!
http://zireael07.wordpress.com/ |
 |
|
|
Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7974 Posts |
Posted - 17 Dec 2010 : 18:43:30
|
| Yes, the short version is that Bane lives and Xvim doesn't. |
[/Ayrik] |
|
|
|
Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36782 Posts |
Posted - 17 Dec 2010 : 19:06:57
|
Xvim's followers had a dream where Bane exploded out of Xvim. Officially, that was the end of Xvim.
I have a theory, though, that Bane remains dead, and that Xvim is impersonating him. Existing Realmslore has more than one example of one deity impersonating another, even one killed by the impersonator. Me, I think Xvim faked Bane's return to cash in on his popularity and reputation -- Xvim never had the following that his daddy did. |
Candlekeep Forums Moderator
Candlekeep - The Library of Forgotten Realms Lore
http://www.candlekeep.com -- Candlekeep Forum Code of Conduct
I am the Giant Space Hamster of Ill Omen!  |
|
|
|
Tremaine
Seeker
United Kingdom
86 Posts |
Posted - 17 Dec 2010 : 19:32:10
|
that's a cool theory Wooly was going to ask is it the same Bane as before or a new god who has taken Banes name haha
Is there any novels on Bane or Xvim including cameos?so far I've read Stormlight,the five avatar novels and Finders bane
thanks for the answers |
|
|
|
Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36782 Posts |
Posted - 17 Dec 2010 : 20:35:22
|
Xvim has a bit of an appearance in Tymora's Luck... That's all I can think of, outside of the ones you mentioned.
It's also possible that reborn Bane really is Bane, but that he absorbed/subsumed Xvim into himself -- because the reborn Bane has shown some Xvim-like qualities.
We don't really know, and I think it's unlikely that we're going to get any info in this area. They never even bothered to cover Bane's return in the fiction -- all we got was a paragraph in the FRCS. |
Candlekeep Forums Moderator
Candlekeep - The Library of Forgotten Realms Lore
http://www.candlekeep.com -- Candlekeep Forum Code of Conduct
I am the Giant Space Hamster of Ill Omen! |
|
|
|
The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 17 Dec 2010 : 23:46:23
|
quote:
Originally posted by Zireael
quote:
Originally posted by Tremaine
I've finally got round to reading undead it's a real page turner
I've been reading realm novels on and off over the years so I probably missed some vital information and a bit confused, can someone help please
Anyway there is a scene when Bane appears to Szass Tam which is a really cool scene, but I thought he was dead in Finders Bane Iyachtu Xvim had replaced Bane and in Stormlight I thought Bane had failed again but its been a long time since I read those novels so maybe i was wrong, when did Bane make a comeback and is he in any other novel's
Thanks for the Help all
Bane made a comeback in 1371 DR, don't remember the exact date and month. That was when Iyachtu Xvim died.
As for Stormlight, I don't know.
The FRCS and F&P [and a few tidbits in Cloak & Dagger] references are the only sources we have on this. They gave us small notes saying that on this one particular night [Midwinter night of 1372 DR], all worshippers of Iyachtu Xvim had a dream where they saw him split apart and Bane emerge from within. |
Candlekeep Forums Moderator
Candlekeep - The Library of Forgotten Realms Lore
http://www.candlekeep.com -- Candlekeep Forum Code of Conduct
Scribe for the Candlekeep Compendium -- Volume IX now available (Oct 2007)
"So Saith Ed" -- the collected Candlekeep replies of Ed Greenwood
Zhoth'ilam Folio -- The Electronic Misadventures of a Rambling Sage |
|
|
|
Christopher_Rowe
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
879 Posts |
Posted - 18 Dec 2010 : 00:35:08
|
| The ten or twelve pages of "current clack" in Cloak & Dagger are close to my favorite ten or twelve pages of Realmslore. And no, don't ask me to name an absolute favorite because I can't. :) |
|
|
|
Tremaine
Seeker
United Kingdom
86 Posts |
Posted - 18 Dec 2010 : 10:41:37
|
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
We don't really know, and I think it's unlikely that we're going to get any info in this area. They never even bothered to cover Bane's return in the fiction -- all we got was a paragraph in the FRCS.
That's good to know it feels like I read a good book and the middle interesting awesome bit of it went missing
I would have liked to have seen a novel how bane finally managed to return, it could have been a loose sequel to crucible |
|
|
|
swifty
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
517 Posts |
Posted - 19 Dec 2010 : 22:19:16
|
quote:
Originally posted by Tremaine
that's a cool theory Wooly was going to ask is it the same Bane as before or a new god who has taken Banes name haha
Is there any novels on Bane or Xvim including cameos?so far I've read Stormlight,the five avatar novels and Finders bane
thanks for the answers
he appears in pools of darkness. |
go back to sleep america.everything is under control.heres american gladiators.watch this.shuttup. BILL HICKS. |
|
|
|
Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36782 Posts |
Posted - 19 Dec 2010 : 22:42:50
|
quote:
Originally posted by swifty
quote:
Originally posted by Tremaine
that's a cool theory Wooly was going to ask is it the same Bane as before or a new god who has taken Banes name haha
Is there any novels on Bane or Xvim including cameos?so far I've read Stormlight,the five avatar novels and Finders bane
thanks for the answers
he appears in pools of darkness.
I did my best to block out memories of that novel.  |
Candlekeep Forums Moderator
Candlekeep - The Library of Forgotten Realms Lore
http://www.candlekeep.com -- Candlekeep Forum Code of Conduct
I am the Giant Space Hamster of Ill Omen! |
|
|
|
Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7974 Posts |
Posted - 19 Dec 2010 : 22:49:09
|
| Did the novel take place before Bane's death and ToT? |
[/Ayrik] |
|
|
|
Murray Leeder
Forgotten Realms Author
Canada
228 Posts |
Posted - 20 Dec 2010 : 15:49:52
|
| The title of this thread made me think that Bane wrote a song or poem or something called "Confused." |
|
|
|
swifty
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
517 Posts |
Posted - 20 Dec 2010 : 17:14:46
|
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by swifty
quote:
Originally posted by Tremaine
that's a cool theory Wooly was going to ask is it the same Bane as before or a new god who has taken Banes name haha
Is there any novels on Bane or Xvim including cameos?so far I've read Stormlight,the five avatar novels and Finders bane
thanks for the answers
he appears in pools of darkness.
I did my best to block out memories of that novel.
was it banes minions talking in a noo yoik accent. |
go back to sleep america.everything is under control.heres american gladiators.watch this.shuttup. BILL HICKS. |
|
|
|
Tremaine
Seeker
United Kingdom
86 Posts |
Posted - 20 Dec 2010 : 17:18:43
|
quote:
Originally posted by Murray Leeder
The title of this thread made me think that Bane wrote a song or poem or something called "Confused."
maybe he has |
|
|
|
Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36782 Posts |
Posted - 20 Dec 2010 : 17:44:30
|
quote:
Originally posted by swifty
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by swifty
quote:
Originally posted by Tremaine
that's a cool theory Wooly was going to ask is it the same Bane as before or a new god who has taken Banes name haha
Is there any novels on Bane or Xvim including cameos?so far I've read Stormlight,the five avatar novels and Finders bane
thanks for the answers
he appears in pools of darkness.
I did my best to block out memories of that novel.
was it banes minions talking in a noo yoik accent.
I don't recall that detail. What I seem to recall is that I found the plot utterly preposterous. I've not touched that book since the early 90s, so I may be conflating it with one of the other Pools books, which I found to have a lot of details and events that just struck me as ridiculous. I am not a fan of that series. |
Candlekeep Forums Moderator
Candlekeep - The Library of Forgotten Realms Lore
http://www.candlekeep.com -- Candlekeep Forum Code of Conduct
I am the Giant Space Hamster of Ill Omen! |
|
|
|
Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36782 Posts |
Posted - 20 Dec 2010 : 17:47:55
|
quote:
Originally posted by Murray Leeder
The title of this thread made me think that Bane wrote a song or poem or something called "Confused."
It's a song about Cyric! |
Candlekeep Forums Moderator
Candlekeep - The Library of Forgotten Realms Lore
http://www.candlekeep.com -- Candlekeep Forum Code of Conduct
I am the Giant Space Hamster of Ill Omen! |
|
|
|
swifty
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
517 Posts |
Posted - 20 Dec 2010 : 18:17:10
|
| i remember pool of twilight being set in 1372 when all the other novels at the time were round about 1365. |
go back to sleep america.everything is under control.heres american gladiators.watch this.shuttup. BILL HICKS. |
|
|
| |
Topic |
|
Confused by Bane
