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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 22 Dec 2010 : 04:19:21
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You'll find Discworld books at every library; hugely popular best-selling pulp sorta stuff, so no library would dare to not have at least a few titles. There is probably something of a recommended reading order or chronology or whatever, though I've found that you can just read the books in whatever order you like because - aside from a few minor in-jokes and extra little references you might not properly understand - they're basically all standalone stories. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 22 Dec 2010 : 04:31:43
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quote: Originally posted by Arik
You'll find Discworld books at every library; hugely popular best-selling pulp sorta stuff, so no library would dare to not have at least a few titles. There is probably something of a recommended reading order or chronology or whatever, though I've found that you can just read the books in whatever order you like because - aside from a few minor in-jokes and extra little references you might not properly understand - they're basically all standalone stories.
I was told you could jump in at any point... And then I read one of the books. It didn't really grab me, and part of the reason is because I felt I had come into the middle of the story. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 22 Dec 2010 : 05:04:51
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote: Originally posted by Arik
You'll find Discworld books at every library; hugely popular best-selling pulp sorta stuff, so no library would dare to not have at least a few titles. There is probably something of a recommended reading order or chronology or whatever, though I've found that you can just read the books in whatever order you like because - aside from a few minor in-jokes and extra little references you might not properly understand - they're basically all standalone stories.
I was told you could jump in at any point... And then I read one of the books. It didn't really grab me, and part of the reason is because I felt I had come into the middle of the story.
The best suggestion for a reading order for the DISCWORLD novels can be found here.
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2010 : 18:35:45
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Apparently the book I read was right in the middle of the Watch novels...
Getting back to character races, I just recalled that I've long been interested in the loxo... |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7966 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2010 : 18:46:03
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All four of the Saurial races are greatly detailed in PHBR10: Complete Book of Humanoids, insofar as functioning as game characters.
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I just found the Serpent Kingdoms "Saurials: More Lizardkin" Web Enhancement. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2010 : 19:04:11
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quote: Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
Loxo? Interesting choice. But they're planar, aren't they?
Plains-er, maybe.
I'm away from my books, but they are a race that lives within the Realms. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7966 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2010 : 19:14:48
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I can't remember the loxo, but the internet seems to suggest they are associated with spelljammer lore. |
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Synthalus
Learned Scribe
USA
170 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2010 : 19:20:08
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Saurials are great i forgot about them. thanks Alystra for bringing them up. Its been a long time since i played one and i think my next character is going to be one now. :) |
"That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die." H.P. Lovecraft (The Call of Cthulhu and Other Weird Stories) |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2010 : 20:04:37
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Huh, coulda sworn they were an FR race... I know at least one is in the Realms; maybe that was throwing me off. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Synthalus
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 22 Dec 2010 : 20:22:19
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Saurials were introduced originally in the Forgotten Realms campaign setting in the Serpent Kingdoms supplement book, though it has oftened been said they would be equally at home in such a place as the Talenta Plains in Eberron. In the Forgotten Realms, Saurials dwell in the Dalelands, in a hidden place known as the Lost Vale. They are said to have hailed from another world (possibly earth), and were stranded in Faerūn via the actions of the evil deity Moander. excerpt from Wikipedia:
More intelligent than lizardfolk and inclined to be peaceful and civilized, the saurials have maintained a thriving community in near-complete isolation for nearly fifteen years. Tales of these so-called dragonfolk (though they are actually dinosaur-like) pervade many cultures, but few humans have actually seen them.
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7966 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2010 : 20:34:59
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Basic background for the saurials is given in the sources I mentioned (and linked to) above; that wiki quote is taken verbatim from the web enhancement.
The full background is more fully explained in the Finder's Stone novel trilogy; saurial presence in the Realms dates back to the 1988/1E Azure Bonds novel and certainly predates Serpent Kingdoms; indeed, in a way, the race (as a concept devised perhaps as early as 1984) may even predate old Drizzt. (According to this timeline the events of this novel occur in 1333DR; whereas Menzoberranzan states that Drizzt was born 1297DR). |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2010 : 20:43:43
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quote: Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
Interesting. May have to add some of this to my list of "things to hunt down".
The Finder's Stone trilogy is one of the few trilogies I readily recommend to all fans of the Realms. Few authors have showcased the Realms as well and show as much regard for the setting as Kate Novak and Jeff Grubb. And that's the same Jeff Grubb that helped turn Ed's notes into the Old Grey Box. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 22 Dec 2010 : 21:37:41
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Looking through my 1E/2E FR stuff, I see Jeff Grubb's name beside Ed Greenwood's on almost every product. He was clearly instrumental in creating the Realms as we all know (or knew) it - and a ton of other D&D rulebooks and novels beyond the Realms - far more involved than I'd initially thought. Kate Novak's name is easily recognized from many novels, but somehow ol' Grubby always seemed more like an "extra name" listed in the credits ... until now. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 22 Dec 2010 : 21:45:59
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quote: Originally posted by Arik
Looking through my 1E/2E FR stuff, I see Jeff Grubb's name beside Ed Greenwood's on almost every product. He was clearly instrumental in creating the Realms as we all know (or knew) it - and a ton of other D&D rulebooks and novels beyond the Realms - far more involved than I'd initially thought. Kate Novak's name is easily recognized from many novels, but somehow ol' Grubby always seemed more like an "extra name" listed in the credits ... until now.
Not only did he help turn Ed's notes into all those old Realms sourcebooks, some of his own contributions made their way in, too -- like the goddess Waukeen or the name Abeir-Toril. |
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Christopher_Rowe
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
879 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2010 : 21:48:57
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Jeff Grubb wrote the Realms comic from DC that Rags Morales drew back in the day as well. Fond memories.
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My Realms novel, Sandstorm, is now available for ordering. |
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Matt James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer
USA
918 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2010 : 21:59:56
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I have all of those... good times. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2010 : 23:22:40
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Apparently the book I read was right in the middle of the Watch novels...
Yeah, that was probably a bad place to start.
quote: Getting back to character races, I just recalled that I've long been interested in the loxo...
I've always liked the loxo. It's just too bad that there's virtually nothing about the Loxoth homeworld in the previous lore either.
Sharmra Lornra may know -- if you can survive long enough to ask her. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 22 Dec 2010 : 23:24:38
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Huh, coulda sworn they were an FR race... I know at least one is in the Realms; maybe that was throwing me off.
We're told, in 3e's Shining South [and previous lore] that the Loxo arrived in Faerūn by spelljammer. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2010 : 23:25:28
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote: Originally posted by Arik
Looking through my 1E/2E FR stuff, I see Jeff Grubb's name beside Ed Greenwood's on almost every product. He was clearly instrumental in creating the Realms as we all know (or knew) it - and a ton of other D&D rulebooks and novels beyond the Realms - far more involved than I'd initially thought. Kate Novak's name is easily recognized from many novels, but somehow ol' Grubby always seemed more like an "extra name" listed in the credits ... until now.
Not only did he help turn Ed's notes into all those old Realms sourcebooks, some of his own contributions made their way in, too -- like the goddess Waukeen or the name Abeir-Toril.
Yep. I'd search through past discussion scrolls on the subject, and Ed's compiled replies too, for more elaborate chatter of Jeff's grand contributions to the Realms. |
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azare
Acolyte
New Zealand
5 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jun 2011 : 12:16:00
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well i chose human for the basic reason that i like to picture myself as my pcs |
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MalariaMoon
Learned Scribe
324 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jun 2011 : 14:21:14
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I chose human because I thought no-one else would and I felt sorry for them. More fool me! |
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ChieftainTwilight
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 12 Jun 2011 : 05:38:31
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I go with Half-Orc, because of the myriad complex social situations it involves, the potential for great background history and storytelling, the exercise in culturally divided frames of mind, and the intricate advantages and disadvantages they have in various fields of Adventuring (both in typical terms and Urban settings). |
and a heart can only break so many times and I've been to hell and back so many times and I've seen folks walk away so many times but just like anyone else I gotta stand up by myself and a heart can only break so many times a heart can only break so many times
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Jakuta Khan
Senior Scribe
496 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jun 2011 : 18:35:05
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well,
have to Hold the standard of the Goblinoids up here....
Hobgoblins, of course. |
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Cleric Generic
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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