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jornan
Learned Scribe

Canada
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Posted - 02 Dec 2010 :  04:26:54  Show Profile Send jornan a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
*possible spoilers*

I'm currently reading this book and on about chapter twelve and having a fair amount of trouble knowing if I should know some of these characters from past FR books and source materials. Forgotten realms Wiki hasn't been much help. I was hoping some of the more knowledgeable scribes could help assemble a list or some such of characters and their pasts and appearances.

I'm all good with:

Alusair
Manshoon
Seven Sisters

But feel free to give any information on anyone.
Any help would be much appreciated.

Sandro
Learned Scribe

New Zealand
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Posted - 02 Dec 2010 :  04:30:17  Show Profile Send Sandro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It would be easier, I think, if you told us with whom you are unfamiliar, as I know that I certainly can't, and the same can probably said for many other scribes, remember exactly who "pops up" from the past.

"Gods, little fishes, and spells to turn the one to the other," Mordenkainen sighed. "It's started already..."
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jornan
Learned Scribe

Canada
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Posted - 02 Dec 2010 :  04:48:11  Show Profile Send jornan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Garen Thal
The Nine
Targrael


come to mind.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 02 Dec 2010 :  05:23:30  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Garen Thal is in there? Awesome! I'd love to be immortalized like that!

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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

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Posted - 02 Dec 2010 :  05:44:40  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jornan

Garen Thal
The Nine
Targrael


come to mind.

The Nine are an adventuring band. As I recall, only three of the Nine have ever been properly detailed. Laeral, and then another two that were referenced in her entry in the Seven Sisters tome, which are Thanadar and Arnthiir Windrivv. The first time they're mentioned in lore, IIRC, was in the Great Grey Box, then in FR5 The Savage Frontier.

For Lady Targrael, see Ed's The Sword Never Sleeps.

As for Garen Thal... well, I'll let either Brian Cortijo or the Ol' Bearded One himself handle that.

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Edited by - The Sage on 02 Dec 2010 05:51:23
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The Sage
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Posted - 02 Dec 2010 :  05:45:42  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Garen Thal is in there? Awesome! I'd love to be immortalized like that!

Bah! There's more call for immortalising The Sage in the Realmslore. Krash has already laid out Sage Operth in his as-close-to-official-lore here at Candlekeep. Now it just needs to make it's way into an official source.

[http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11779&whichpage=8]

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Brimstone
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USA
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Posted - 02 Dec 2010 :  06:26:28  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am going to re-read it to find the Garen Thal reference.

I am glad I don't have to worry about my candlekeep name in published Realmslore.

I took it after the fact...

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Dennis
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Posted - 02 Dec 2010 :  09:32:51  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think Targrael might have been interesting had she been given more 'screen time.'

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The Red Walker
Great Reader

USA
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Posted - 02 Dec 2010 :  13:54:11  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

I am going to re-read it to find the Garen Thal reference.

I am glad I don't have to worry about my candlekeep name in published Realmslore.

I took it after the fact...



Im assuming hey are referencing the dedication, where Ed says something along the lines of "this should have been yours" ......

Which I'm guessing by Brians love of and massive knowledge of Cormyr, he would have been a good choice to write a cormyr-spanning epic!

A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -

John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 02 Dec 2010 :  15:30:33  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message  Reply with Quote
dennis, I believe more than a few Targrael scenes were cut to make wordcount.
jornan, Targrael and the Nine, although they have been mentioned more than once before in published Realmslore, are supposed to be mysterious to the reader. Stay tuned to this series for more about them in future books, Ed has hinted.
love,
THO
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Dennis
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Posted - 03 Dec 2010 :  01:45:53  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

dennis, I believe more than a few Targrael scenes were cut to make wordcount.

love,
THO



Of course, as expected. Perhaps the words dedicated to Manshoon should have been given to her instead. I really love Manshoon, don't I?!

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 03 Dec 2010 :  03:23:36  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It does seem that way.
love,
THO
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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 03 Dec 2010 :  03:27:06  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Obviously....

The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.

"Where Science ends, Magic begins" -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491

"You idiots! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -Spaceballs

Lothir's character background/stats: http://forum.candlekeep.com/pop_profile.asp?mode=display&id=5469

My stories:
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Dennis
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Posted - 03 Dec 2010 :  04:07:39  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, I can't say my love for him will never change. If an author handles him perfectly or changes him to something (not a real cockroach, please) I may find interesting, I might put his name on my list of favorite characters. Meantime, he's on my list of...ah, you know that already.

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The Red Walker
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USA
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Posted - 03 Dec 2010 :  14:20:26  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote

I find it more than a bit "Cockroach-ish" that a certain scribe had poisoned yet another scroll not intended for their continued flogging of Ed and Manshoon. (seen too many to count)

The OP said they wanted to know more about the characters from the book...also said Manshoon was one they were good with knowledge of. They are looking in hope " some of the more knowledgeable scribes could help assemble a list or some such of characters and their pasts and appearances."

No need for cockroaching another scroll thank you.

Perhaps the Mods need a can of that "roach" spray someone is so effusive about.

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"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -

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Garen Thal
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 03 Dec 2010 :  16:48:40  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"I" don't appear in Elminster Must Die, with the obvious exception of the dedication.

"I" do, however, sort of appear in the second Knights of Myth Drannor novel, Swords of Dragonfire, as a War Wizard. Alternatively, "I" might not be Garen Thal at all, but young and blustering Garen Truesilver from The Sword Never Sleeps. [Personally, I think the latter might be a better fit, being an 'off-screen' agent who observes something afoot, than a noble dashing about with sword drawn, but alas, I wrote neither.]

I will say that while there are some characters, titles, and events that appear in Elminster Must Die that could be traced to things I've created, none of these characters are "mine" or "me." Perhaps, if one day I get to write that Cormyr novel that's been scratching in the back of my brain to get out, they will be, but not today, I fear.

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Dennis
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Posted - 06 Dec 2010 :  02:36:06  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Garen Thal

"I" don't appear in Elminster Must Die, with the obvious exception of the dedication.




Yes, as far I can remember. Unless of course my fellow scribes know you personally and believe one of the characters is you (in a different name).

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