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The Sage
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Posted - 04 Dec 2010 :  11:37:49  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Aye. It's definitely the host. Nothing to do with us, fortunately. We're just subject to whatever is ailing the web host.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 04 Dec 2010 :  17:08:30  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, this is the first time I've been able to get to the site since yesterday afternoon. Nearly 24 hours... Though admittedly I did sleep in rather late.

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Ayrik
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Posted - 04 Dec 2010 :  21:19:56  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I notice that Active Topics page falls into sad disarray every now and then. It doesn't get updated when people manage to successfully post then unsuccessfully return to the forum. Quite a mess after a bad server day.

Thus, a question: when submitting a post, why is the intermediate redirect page (New Reply Posted! or Your Reply Was Changed Successfully!, Thank you for your contribution!, Back to Forum!) even necessary? It just seems like needless cross-server talk to me (though of course I don't have any idea how CK is really set up), would it not be less error-prone (and time consuming) if this report page didn't exist and Back to Forum autolinked right away? Am I missing something about how this works?

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The Sage
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Posted - 05 Dec 2010 :  00:07:12  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not really. It's just a somewhat useful function that allows scribes to know that their post was successfully accepted by the forum registry.

Is it absolutely necessary? No. But it's courteous.

And I don't think having it or not having would make either difference to the nature of the ASP errors plaguing the system. You'd still receive the error message about your post, because it can also occur when we Moderate a particular entry in a scroll [where this posting message doesn't appear].

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Dennis
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Posted - 05 Dec 2010 :  00:28:31  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Not really. It's just a somewhat useful function that allows scribes to know that their post was successfully accepted by the forum registry.

Is it absolutely necessary? No. But it's courteous.




Agreed. I actually like it. Most of the forums I joined in have something similar.

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Ayrik
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Posted - 05 Dec 2010 :  17:44:17  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Perhaps a script which compares the new post with the previous post (or at least the last post by the same user) - a quick scan for dupe posts which will redirect to the usual (Thank You!) page immediately instead of re-posting when a dupe is found? lol, it might reduce the mod cleanup chores a little.

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Zireael
Master of Realmslore

Poland
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Posted - 22 Dec 2010 :  08:47:00  Show Profile  Visit Zireael's Homepage Send Zireael a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arik

CK servers appeared to be entirely offline most of the day. Not even "Error ASP 0113" pages.
The page cannot be displayed
The request cannot be processed at this time. The amount of traffic exceeds the Web site's configured capacity.

HTTP Error 500.13 - Server error: Web server is too busy.
Internet Information Services (IIS)





Yeah, I got it yesterday a few times too. Makes me right angry...

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Alaundo
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Posted - 23 Dec 2010 :  10:06:49  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Zireael

quote:
Originally posted by Arik

CK servers appeared to be entirely offline most of the day. Not even "Error ASP 0113" pages.
The page cannot be displayed
The request cannot be processed at this time. The amount of traffic exceeds the Web site's configured capacity.

HTTP Error 500.13 - Server error: Web server is too busy.
Internet Information Services (IIS)




Yeah, I got it yesterday a few times too. Makes me right angry...



Well met

Sadly, there's nothing to be done about this error. Candlekeep is on a shared web server along with other websites. Therefore, we have to share bandwidth and server loads and on occassion, such heavy loads may happen. I haven't seen this myself yet and suspect it's quite rare for the loads to be so high.

Unfortunately, as Candlekeep is non-commercial we cannot stretch to going to a dedicated server.

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Ayrik
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Posted - 23 Dec 2010 :  10:23:37  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Interesting that Zireael (in Poland) would experience server lockout - I'd think the problem would be seen more often by those of us on the other side of the Pond, as bandwidths get bottlenecked crossing through 7000km of trans-Atlantic fiber (map of global submarine datacomm infrastructure).

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Dennis
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Posted - 05 Jan 2011 :  12:46:10  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The site was inaccessible for almost the entire day.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 05 Jan 2011 :  12:52:40  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dennis

The site was inaccessible for almost the entire day.



Indeed. I was unable to reach the site from mid-afternoon thru midnight, and when it loaded this morn, there were only a few updated threads -- so it likely hadn't been up for long.

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The Sage
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Posted - 05 Jan 2011 :  14:21:46  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You all can't blame me this time. My gremlins were all asleep.

...

Seriously though, I suspect it was problems with the host.

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Alisttair
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Posted - 05 Jan 2011 :  15:26:41  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes I noticed diffifulties in posting replies yesterday.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 05 Jan 2011 :  15:42:08  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

You all can't blame me this time. My gremlins were all asleep.

...

Seriously though, I suspect it was problems with the host.



It was prolly the latter, as you say... But do gremlins ever sleep?

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Alaundo
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Posted - 05 Jan 2011 :  17:06:21  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well met

Aye, I was faced with "web server busy" messages most of the day. I raised a support ticket with the host, but (as expected) I received no joy and the stock reply of "it seems ok to us".

However, next time, I have a new tactic

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 05 Jan 2011 :  18:17:33  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo

Well met

Aye, I was faced with "web server busy" messages most of the day. I raised a support ticket with the host, but (as expected) I received no joy and the stock reply of "it seems ok to us".

However, next time, I have a new tactic



Does it involve the Sage's gremlins?

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Dennis
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Posted - 05 Jan 2011 :  21:15:22  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

You all can't blame me this time. My gremlins were all asleep.

...

Seriously though, I suspect it was problems with the host.



It was prolly the latter, as you say... But do gremlins ever sleep?



AFAIK, they don't at all.

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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 05 Jan 2011 :  22:09:42  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo

Well met

Aye, I was faced with "web server busy" messages most of the day. I raised a support ticket with the host, but (as expected) I received no joy and the stock reply of "it seems ok to us".

However, next time, I have a new tactic



Care to share your enlightened tactic?

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Dennis
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Posted - 05 Jan 2011 :  22:43:52  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo

Well met

Aye, I was faced with "web server busy" messages most of the day. I raised a support ticket with the host, but (as expected) I received no joy and the stock reply of "it seems ok to us".

However, next time, I have a new tactic



Care to share your enlightened tactic?



SECONDED.

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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

Australia
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Posted - 06 Jan 2011 :  00:15:30  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo

Well met

Aye, I was faced with "web server busy" messages most of the day. I raised a support ticket with the host, but (as expected) I received no joy and the stock reply of "it seems ok to us".

However, next time, I have a new tactic



Does it involve the Sage's gremlins?

Probably. I'd imagine they descend on the web host like the Uruk-Hai on Helm's Deep in The Two Towers.

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Alaundo
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Posted - 06 Jan 2011 :  17:27:23  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo

Well met

Aye, I was faced with "web server busy" messages most of the day. I raised a support ticket with the host, but (as expected) I received no joy and the stock reply of "it seems ok to us".

However, next time, I have a new tactic



Care to share your enlightened tactic?



SECONDED.



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Zireael
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Poland
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Posted - 07 Jan 2011 :  15:39:23  Show Profile  Visit Zireael's Homepage Send Zireael a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've got another problem. Often, I'm not able to post - that is, page does not load at all, no error messages or anything. Sometime it persists for half a day...

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Dennis
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Posted - 08 Jan 2011 :  17:54:38  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah...The gremlins are back!

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Dennis
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Posted - 23 Jun 2011 :  03:15:20  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Again, the site was inaccessible for more than 24 hours. Is this a sign CK 2.0 is nearly done?

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The Sage
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Posted - 23 Jun 2011 :  03:42:35  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm not sure what caused the latest outage [and all my gremlins were safely stored away], but I suspect it was an external fault with the ISP, rather than a site problem.

As I recall, the same thing happened last year, whereupon Candlekeep was unavailable for almost an entire day. Alaundo later noted that the fault lay with major disruptions at the service supplier end. This recent bout, may simply be another such circumstance.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 23 Jun 2011 :  04:52:39  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


Again, the site was inaccessible for more than 24 hours. Is this a sign CK 2.0 is nearly done?



About 18 hours, by my reckoning. I was able to access the site until about 1 PM yesterday, and then it came back this morn at roughly 6:30 AM.

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Dennis
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Posted - 23 Jun 2011 :  05:04:39  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Most likely right. I mistakenly included the hours I slept (by which point I couldn't try to access the site, could I?)

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Varl
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Posted - 28 Jun 2011 :  14:29:33  Show Profile Send Varl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here's the error message I got when I tried to reload Candlekeep yesterday:

quote:
The request cannot be processed at this time. The amount of traffic exceeds the Web site's configured capacity.


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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 28 Jun 2011 :  17:49:55  Show Profile Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
-Yeah, I had no luck accessing the site basically all day yesterday. Tried around noon, and it wasn't loading. Came home from work, and tried around 11 PM, and got the above error message.

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Posted - 28 Jun 2011 :  18:24:14  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Karsus

-Yeah, I had no luck accessing the site basically all day yesterday. Tried around noon, and it wasn't loading. Came home from work, and tried around 11 PM, and got the above error message.



Ditto. It was up at 1PM Eastern, but then I wasn't able to get in again until early this morn.

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