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Lady Fellshot
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Posted - 25 Oct 2010 :  01:09:08  Show Profile  Visit Lady Fellshot's Homepage Send Lady Fellshot a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I just realized that I've been operating under an assumption that most Realms novels fall into an "adventure" category. We already know that the Realms fall pretty squarely into the fantasy genre but what about subgroupings? I haven't read all the Realms novels out there and my sample size should be bigger.

Could we compile a list of novels with what you think their subgenres (mystery, horror, adveture, romance etc.) are? A novel can fall into more than one subgenre too.

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 25 Oct 2010 :  01:19:53  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, there were the Realms of Mystery and Realms of Infamy. Many of the compilations have different sub-groupings. I haven't read all the FR novels out there (I know, I know, I am a heathen), but there are elements of mystery, horror and romance through many of the novels. I wouldn't say that they are predominantly those elements, but have strong leaning towards them.

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 24 Aug 2011 :  22:11:01  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Murder in Cormyr & Murder in Halruaa= Mystery :)

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 25 Aug 2011 :  00:21:56  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wow, that's an ambitious undertaking. I'll throw in my personal classifications of my novels, to get the list going:

Ghostwalker = western/revenge fantasy

Depths of Madness = horror fantasy

Shadowbane series: Downshadow, Shadowbane, Eye of Justice = heroic fantasy

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Dennis
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Posted - 25 Aug 2011 :  12:19:58  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

This may not come as a surprise... I'd like to see a GLBT Realms novel. Maybe it's too unlikely for now, given how homosexuality is tackled in some of the recent novels.

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Richard Lee Byers
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Posted - 25 Aug 2011 :  16:44:37  Show Profile  Visit Richard Lee Byers's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'll play:

Queen of the Depths: Spy novel.

The Black Bouquet: Crime/caper novel.
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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 25 Aug 2011 :  17:11:32  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


This may not come as a surprise... I'd like to see a GLBT Realms novel. Maybe it's too unlikely for now, given how homosexuality is tackled in some of the recent novels.

For the record, so would I.

Though it seems most likely it would be a major theme, rather than the book being a "GLBT" novel (ie where that's the point of the book). But a novel with a GLBT main character and/or a significant GLBT romance subplot would be awesome.

I myself have written a number of GLBT characters and subplots, but they've never crosses into being the main story. (Heck, having two female characters kiss in a non-sexual way was enough to bring out plenty of anti-gay trolls to slam one of my books. Not that I don't welcome the fight. Because I do.)

Cheers

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Dennis
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Posted - 25 Aug 2011 :  17:30:42  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


This may not come as a surprise... I'd like to see a GLBT Realms novel. Maybe it's too unlikely for now, given how homosexuality is tackled in some of the recent novels.

For the record, so would I.

Though it seems most likely it would be a major theme, rather than the book being a "GLBT" novel (ie where that's the point of the book). But a novel with a GLBT main character and/or a significant GLBT romance subplot would be awesome.

I myself have written a number of GLBT characters and subplots, but they've never crosses into being the main story. (Heck, having two female characters kiss in a non-sexual way was enough to bring out plenty of anti-gay trolls to slam one of my books. Not that I don't welcome the fight. Because I do.)

Cheers

Cheers


Perhaps WotC should realize that even non-gay people do read GLBT-themed novels.

Are you comfortable having gay men as heroes and/or villains in your book?

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 26 Aug 2011 :  00:10:21  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

Perhaps WotC should realize that even non-gay people do read GLBT-themed novels.
Are you comfortable having gay men as heroes and/or villains in your book?
I already do have such characters, though I don't generally go out of my way to make their orientation blindingly obvious. In the Realms, sexual orientation is much less clear-cut than in our own world.

If it's pertinent to the plot, I do make it clear, however.

I would suggest that if we're going to talk more about this, we should do it over PMs, since this subject is wandering from the OP and has the tendency to become a hand grenade topic.

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Faraer
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Posted - 26 Aug 2011 :  00:58:24  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cormyr and Evermeet are dynastic historical fiction.
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James P. Davis
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Posted - 26 Aug 2011 :  07:28:39  Show Profile  Visit James P. Davis's Homepage Send James P. Davis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'll play too! Let's see, with 'dark fantasy' as a cover-all I'll try to identify the different flavors of dark...

BLOODWALK (adventure)
SHIELD OF WEEPING GHOSTS (ghost story)
RESTLESS SHORE (Lovecraftian)
CIRCLE OF SKULLS (apocalyptic mystery)

How's that?

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Dennis
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Posted - 26 Aug 2011 :  08:08:23  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

The Realms should have a Humor sub-category. It would definitely attract thousands of new readers.

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Yoss
Learned Scribe

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Posted - 26 Aug 2011 :  10:45:03  Show Profile Send Yoss a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was going to say something about it being presented somewhat of a history book (would that be fictional history historical fiction, then?), but the FR wiki page kind cleans that up a bit with its "elven history opera" description of Evermeet.
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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 26 Aug 2011 :  13:46:44  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


The Realms should have a Humor sub-category. It would definitely attract thousands of new readers.



I found Once Around the Realms to be very humorous

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 26 Aug 2011 :  15:52:32  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

The Realms should have a Humor sub-category. It would definitely attract thousands of new readers.
I don't know, comedic writing is both difficult and very subjective. And I'm not convinced comedy for comedy's sake makes for a good or interesting story.

I think comedy is a better tool to be used to enhance any story, rather than as the basis for a story. It's the sort of thing that could apply to anything, because you can make anything* funny.

Cheers

(*Some things more easily than others, of course!)

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The Sage
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Posted - 26 Aug 2011 :  16:07:09  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

It's the sort of thing that could apply to anything, because you can make anything* funny.

Cheers

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Dennis
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Posted - 26 Aug 2011 :  17:58:59  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

The Realms should have a Humor sub-category. It would definitely attract thousands of new readers.
I don't know, comedic writing is both difficult and very subjective. And I'm not convinced comedy for comedy's sake makes for a good or interesting story.


Read Christopher Moore's novels. You'll know what I mean.

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 26 Aug 2011 :  18:37:40  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

Read Christopher Moore's novels. You'll know what I mean.

I will look into those. Are they comedy for comedy's sake, or are they actual stories that happen to be hilarious?

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Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars"
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Dennis
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Posted - 26 Aug 2011 :  18:44:42  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Most of them are comedy of manners with a dash of fantasy.

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