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althen artren
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Posted - 30 Sep 2010 :  00:06:12  Show Profile Send althen artren a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I wanted to include the prince of Evermeet, but darn it couldn't remember his name.
I also thought of the inventor of mythrallar but couldn't remember his name either.
Leader of the Dark elves before the Sundering, there are all sorts of possibilities.
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Joran Nobleheart
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You mean Lamruil? And Ioulaum created the mythallar, I believe.

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Sandro
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Posted - 30 Sep 2010 :  01:24:55  Show Profile  Click to see Sandro's MSN Messenger address Send Sandro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Personally, it'd have to be Larloch -- Netherese arcanist who survives the fall? Yes please.

Close second would be Manshoon, and if Hesperdan happened to show up in those novels I would not at all be disappointed.

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Zireael
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Posted - 30 Sep 2010 :  09:22:21  Show Profile  Visit Zireael's Homepage Send Zireael a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by althen artren

I wanted to include the prince of Evermeet, but darn it couldn't remember his name.
I also thought of the inventor of mythrallar but couldn't remember his name either.
Leader of the Dark elves before the Sundering, there are all sorts of possibilities.



Lamruil, Ioulaum, and Ka'Narlist?
Go for the third one!

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_Jarlaxle_
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There are allready Novels with Ka'Narlist. He plays some part in Evermeet and there is at least one short story with him where he creates the suaghin race.
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Kilvan
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Posted - 30 Sep 2010 :  12:45:58  Show Profile Send Kilvan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would NOT like to see Larloch novelised. I prefer him as he is right now, unknown, but surely almighty. I do not think he should take part in some great plot that would reveal his plans and is character to the readers (even just a fraction). Besides, I'd trust only Ed to write that one, and he's plenty busy at the moment.

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Dennis
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Posted - 30 Sep 2010 :  15:56:53  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

I voted Larloch. 'Tis time to make the Great Unknown known. But a novel is not enough. It should be a pentad at least.


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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 30 Sep 2010 :  18:26:42  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What about Halaster vs. Larloch?

I smell summer blockbuster.

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Markustay
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Agree completely with Kilvan on this one -

For a movie, Larloch is cliche', sorry. Icky undead uber-wizard is the ultimate villain-trope. He's Sauron with a personality.

I like what he represents in the Realms (and I am sure there is a LOT more to him then we know), but as a movie character its been done to death. The directors & writers will just Frak him up and make him a a cross between The Mummy and Pinhead. Larloch is too 'deep' to be handled aptly on the big screen, and too much will be lost in translation, IMHO.

I can say the same for Halaster, movie-wise...

But a novelization of some sort of ancient rivalry between the two - one that perhaps pre-dates Netheril itself, would be friggin' awesome.

In Marvel comics (yes... I go there a LOT...), it is said that both Dr. Doom and Doctor Druid were both 'precursors' to Doctor Strange (all have very similar origins) - guys who were 'tested' and didn't 'measure-up' to be THE 'Sorcerer Supreme'.

Maybe... Larloch and Halaster are like Dr. Doom and Doctor Druid in that regard, and Elminster is like Doctor Strange.

We are on our third 'Mystra', after all... that we know of....
quote:
Originally posted by _Jarlaxle_

There are allready Novels with Ka'Narlist. He plays some part in Evermeet and there is at least one short story with him where he creates the suaghin race.
Ummmm... there is?

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Edited by - Markustay on 30 Sep 2010 18:44:56
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

In Marvel comics (yes... I go there a LOT...), it is said that both Dr. Doom and Doctor Druid were both 'precursors' to Doctor Strange (all have very similar origins) - guys who were 'tested' and didn't 'measure-up' to be THE 'Sorcerer Supreme'.
Heh. As an extension of this, one of my all-time favourite Marvel tales was the What If?: Doctor Doom Become Sorcerer Supreme. I loved it! Of course, being a huge Strange and Doom fan myself, that was almost a given.

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Dennis
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Posted - 01 Oct 2010 :  02:21:27  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

What about Halaster vs. Larloch?

I smell summer blockbuster.

Cheers



Indeed. But there should be a book trilogy first.


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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 01 Oct 2010 :  03:04:05  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

quote:
Originally posted by _Jarlaxle_

There are allready Novels with Ka'Narlist. He plays some part in Evermeet and there is at least one short story with him where he creates the suaghin race.
Ummmm... there is?



Yup. He was in Evermeet, in some of the past chapters, and the story of his creation of the sahuagin was in Realms of the Arcane, and republished in Best of Elaine.

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Markustay
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Posted - 01 Oct 2010 :  05:22:52  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I know him from Evermeet, but was unaware of his other story.

Embarrassingly, I have neither of those anthologies.

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Brimstone
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Posted - 01 Oct 2010 :  06:30:14  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Voted Mirt...written by ED...

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to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 01 Oct 2010 :  07:15:40  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

What about Halaster vs. Larloch?

I smell summer blockbuster.
Oh don't worry, MT--this was a jest.

And for the record, Larloch is WAY more complicated than Sauron. Not that you could easily explain that in the course of a 2-hour movie, so I agree--book series FTW.

Cheers

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_Jarlaxle_
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Posted - 01 Oct 2010 :  09:43:42  Show Profile Send _Jarlaxle_ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
Embarrassingly, I have neither of those anthologies.


There are some really interessing stories in those, so you should try to get them when you're searching for something to read :)
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Dennis
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quote:
Originally posted by _Jarlaxle_

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
Embarrassingly, I have neither of those anthologies.


There are some really interessing stories in those, so you should try to get them when you're searching for something to read :)



Seconded. I am usually not into short fiction, but I made some exceptions with a few stories in those anthologies.

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jaelin910
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Posted - 05 Oct 2010 :  12:08:00  Show Profile Send jaelin910 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
1. what is the difference between other and other?
2. assuming he isnt already actually in a book(and i just realised how likely it is that he is) karsus
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Quale
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Other, I'd rather not read about any more mages. A book about Pereghost of Darkhold, or about one of the lesser known Lords of Waterdeep, a traitorous one like Kerrigan. Or about Mintiper Moonsilver's time in the Tel Teukiira.
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Markustay
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Posted - 05 Oct 2010 :  17:32:59  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How about this -

An anthology set during the Plague Years (first decade), on how various folks coped. "Realms of Plague"? Realms of Change"? "Realms of Blue Fire"? (that one is kinda catchy)

Not the 'big guns', mind you, although a couple of those stories would be okay. What I want to read about is HUMAN INTEREST - Screw Elminster - tell me what Jhaele was doing when the poop hit the fan. How were the villages in the north affected? How did the folks along the coast of the Dragonmere feel about being annexed? How did the people of Sembia take the Shades running things (because even if its not public-knowledge, people ARE going to figure it out anyway).

What happened to the centaurs in Thay when things started getting bad (or rather, WORSE)? What sort of craziness transpired all over Cormanthor (given the sheer number of magical relics there). What were the shades doing? Or the Bedine for that matter...

What did the humanoids do, and how did they feel about it? Did Obould gain power during those years, or was he in just as much of a pickle as his human counterparts? What of the Serpent Folk? There is a 'new god in town' for them - how did they take that?

And most of all, what of Returned Abeir? I'm sure those folks were kinda shell-shocked for that first decade. As it is now, it almost seems (unrealistically) that they took things 'in stride'. And while I am at it, how about the last days of those that are gone? Maztica, Halruaa, Nimbral, the Mulan... are they 'in a better place'?

I want to read stories about regular people, and how they handled what was possibly THE MOST INTERESTING period of Faerun's long history.

What we have now is something similar to the events leading up to WWII (which are interesting unto themselves), and then you give us the 50's... without ever writing about the damn war! That's what it feels like. I admit the Spellplague is fascinating...SO TELL ME ABOUT IT!

I feel like an anthropologist, and while that particular profession is uber-cool, it would be so much cooler to actually be able to SEE how those ancient peoples lived, and worked, and loved... there are some insanely good stories there just waiting to be tapped.

Don't just show me a Statue of Liberty half-buried in the sand... tell me what the hell happened! Inquiring minds want to know.

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Edited by - Markustay on 05 Oct 2010 17:39:32
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Kno
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Regular people are boring

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Matt James
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Kevrick Crescentmoon - my own creation ;) He is a gypsy that travels all throughout Toril performing deeds decreed by a triad of gods (Oghma being one of them). The only mention of him is fleeting in a Dungeon article-- but if I were to write a Realms novel, he would be my protagonist :)
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 06 Oct 2010 :  03:57:32  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Heh, if we're going to mention characters we made up, I can toss out a dozen or so from my Hooks, plus I'm still hoping to someday see one of my Lords of Waterdeep get made canon.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Heh, if we're going to mention characters we made up, I can toss out a dozen or so from my Hooks, plus I'm still hoping to someday see one of my Lords of Waterdeep get made canon.

Of course, there's also Sage Operth... which Krash saw fit to grant as "canon" in lore he posted here at Candlekeep. But I'd also love to see him [or me, as you prefer] pop up somewhere in future printed Realmslore too.

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Penknight
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I have a fey'ri bladesinger that I'd love to see mentioned even if just in passing one day. He's in my signature below. Telethian Ealoeth, though he uses "Phoenix" as a last name in honor of the symbol of House Dlardrageth. In his true form, the enchanted tattoo on his back of the phoenix in enchanted flames that seem to burn transforms into the symbol of House Dlardrageth (which I adore, and use the symbol as presented in Lords of Darkness). And may I say that I'm also a huge fan of the bladesong style Mr. de Bie came up with and developed for Telethian. My friend, if you read this, again you have my heartfelt thanks. Also, tell Cythara that Telethian sends his respects.

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