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Snowblood
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Australia
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Posted - 25 Jul 2010 :  11:04:32  Show Profile Send Snowblood a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Dear Scribes, I am looking at the original map of the Lost Kingdoms of Netheril from the old Anauroch booklet by Ed Greenwood and I see the city Phelajarama is in Asram south of Hlondath and quite near the cities of Olorin and Anauril. Now here is my conundrum....when I look at the map within Anauroch - Empire of the Shade I see that the city of Phelajarama has suddenly jumped north to be west of Hlondath and right in the middle of the desert....how did that happen????

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Saxmilian
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Posted - 25 Jul 2010 :  16:54:54  Show Profile  Visit Saxmilian's Homepage Send Saxmilian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
magic?
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader

USA
4211 Posts

Posted - 25 Jul 2010 :  17:40:06  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It happened because the maker of the new map did not reference previous material very well...

OR

It was a deliberate change.

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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 25 Jul 2010 :  17:48:47  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

It happened because the maker of the new map did not reference previous material very well...

OR

It was a deliberate change.



Considering how many times 3E lore contradicted earlier stuff, I'm inclined to favor the first theory.

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Dalor Darden
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USA
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Posted - 25 Jul 2010 :  17:52:02  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am too Wooly...in fact, the thing that still to this day outright angers me is that Tethyamar is sitting out in the damnable desert! I mean, come on!

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froglegg
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Posted - 25 Jul 2010 :  22:11:04  Show Profile Send froglegg a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Snowblood

Dear Scribes, I am looking at the original map of the Lost Kingdoms of Netheril from the old Anauroch booklet by Ed Greenwood and I see the city Phelajarama is in Asram south of Hlondath and quite near the cities of Olorin and Anauril. Now here is my conundrum....when I look at the map within Anauroch - Empire of the Shade I see that the city of Phelajarama has suddenly jumped north to be west of Hlondath and right in the middle of the desert....how did that happen????


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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

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Posted - 26 Jul 2010 :  01:44:46  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In these instances, I adhere strictly to the wise words of Steven Schend when considering such mapping errors:- "Chalk it up to Sembian mapmakers or something to overlook their existence, that's all."

In other words, maybe some map-makers in the Realms, simply "guessed" or erred when placing some lesser-known locations on those different maps you refer to.

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The Red Walker
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USA
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Posted - 26 Jul 2010 :  01:54:15  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

In these instances, I adhere strictly to the wise words of Steven Schend when considering such mapping errors:- "Chalk it up to Sembian mapmakers or something to overlook their existence, that's all."

In other words, maybe some map-makers in the Realms, simply "guessed" or erred when placing some lesser-known locations on those different maps you refer to.




I second this approach. It was not too long ago that inaccurate maps were about all that could be found here in our world!

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Dalor Darden
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USA
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Posted - 26 Jul 2010 :  03:51:25  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There are very few maps I accept for any game now.

When a player says "but the map says we should be able to get there in two days and it is right at the mouth of the river!"

I smile and reply "If you make it back to town...you might want to have a talk with the shyster that sold you that lousy map."

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Calmar
Acolyte

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Posted - 26 Jul 2010 :  08:14:37  Show Profile Send Calmar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I guess that's none of those flying shadow-cities..?
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Snowblood
Senior Scribe

Australia
388 Posts

Posted - 26 Jul 2010 :  10:21:13  Show Profile Send Snowblood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
oh I thought it might have happened when the Sharn Wall came up against Phaerimm magics.....whole mountain ranges rose up & disappeared etc.......

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