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ElaineCunningham
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Posted - 15 Dec 2015 :  14:23:32  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage Send ElaineCunningham a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Chapter two of RECLAMATION is up on the thread by that name, here in the Chamber of Sages.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 15 Dec 2015 :  18:30:54  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And that thread is here: Reclamation.

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Joran Nobleheart
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Posted - 15 Dec 2015 :  19:19:12  Show Profile  Visit Joran Nobleheart's Homepage Send Joran Nobleheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wooly, would you mind also posting a link to The Serpents Daughter? I seem to have lost the one that I had saved...

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Joran Nobleheart

Wooly, would you mind also posting a link to The Serpents Daughter? I seem to have lost the one that I had saved...



I don't have a link for that handy.

My search-fu is strong!

The Serpent's Daughter excerpts, Chapters 1 and 2
The Serpent's Daughter excerpts, Chapter 3

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ElaineCunningham
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Posted - 15 Dec 2015 :  19:57:54  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage Send ElaineCunningham a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The first two chapters of THE SERPENT'S Daughter are in this thread:

http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19450&SearchTerms=A,birthday,gift,for,long-time,realms,readers

Chapter 3 is in a thread cunningly labeled "Chapter 3." No wonder you couldn't find them!

http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19489&SearchTerms=Chapter,2

Edited by - ElaineCunningham on 15 Dec 2015 19:58:54
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Joran Nobleheart
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Posted - 15 Dec 2015 :  20:37:21  Show Profile  Visit Joran Nobleheart's Homepage Send Joran Nobleheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you both so very much!

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Barastir
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 21 Dec 2015 :  10:56:56  Show Profile  Click to see Barastir's MSN Messenger address Send Barastir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you very, very much, dear Mrs. Cunningham.
And thanks for the link, Wooly!

EDIT: I was traveling (mostly disconnected) and came home some days ago, just yesterday I compiled the prelude and two chapters in a file with the cover art, and read it only this morning. As a huge fan of the Sword & Song series and characters, I cannot describe how delightful it was to read again your work, Mrs. Cunningham. Still the best Realms and fantasy fiction I ever read, IMHO. Thank you once again, and I deeply hope the CK fanfic idea mentioned in the thread comes into being!


"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."

The Paladin's Virtues, excerpt from the "Quentin's Monograph"
(by Ed Greenwood)

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Barastir
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Brazil
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Posted - 05 Jan 2016 :  11:14:45  Show Profile  Click to see Barastir's MSN Messenger address Send Barastir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dear Mrs. Cunninghamm,

My question now is for some dates in your novels, if you can help me (I know they were written some years ago). I've seen that most of the events in Dream Spheres begin at the first harvest balls and festivals of 1368 DR, and that your Reclamation 1st chapter is set in 29 Eleint of the same year, and the text says:

"She [Arilyn] flexed her gloved hands. Not much more than a ten-day past, they'd been blackened and nearly skeletal."

I have a campaign running in Waterdeep at this period (my players just spend the autumn equinox among the elves), and I'd like to know which of the events mentioned in the novels were known to all in the city, and exactly when they occurred - like the dates of assembling and departure of the sky caravan, the presence of the wild elves in the city, the buzz caused by prince Haedrak's arrival in Waterdeep and the time of his departure to Tethyr. Could you enlighten me with a timeline, as precise as you can?

EDIT: typos and clarifications

"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."

The Paladin's Virtues, excerpt from the "Quentin's Monograph"
(by Ed Greenwood)

Edited by - Barastir on 05 Jan 2016 13:44:28
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author

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Posted - 05 Jan 2016 :  13:50:21  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage Send ElaineCunningham a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Barastir

Dear Mrs. Cunninghamm,

My question now is for some dates in your novels, if you can help me (I know they were written some years ago). I've seen that most of the events in Dream Spheres begin at the first harvest balls and festivals of 1368 DR, and that your Reclamation 1st chapter is set in 29 Eleint of the same year, and the text says:

"She [Arilyn] flexed her gloved hands. Not much more than a ten-day past, they'd been blackened and nearly skeletal."

I have a campaign running in Waterdeep at this period (my players just spend the autumn equinox among the elves), and I'd like to know which of the events were known to all in the city, and exactly when they occurred - like the dates of assembling and departure of the sky caravan, the presence of the wild elves in the city, the buzz caused by prince Haedrak's arrival in Waterdeep and the time of his departure to Tethyr. Could you enlighten me with a timeline, as precise as you can?

EDIT: typos and clarifications



Unfortunately, I don't recall the particulars in enough detail to provide a useful answer. Dream Spheres was written in 1998 and published in 1999, and a lot of water has gone under the bridge in the past 18 years. If I'd kept writing in the Realms, my recall would no doubt be better, but as matters stand, answering this question would require a lot of re-reading and research, as well as some new-lore creation.



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Barastir
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Posted - 05 Jan 2016 :  15:37:59  Show Profile  Click to see Barastir's MSN Messenger address Send Barastir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
Unfortunately, I don't recall the particulars in enough detail to provide a useful answer. (...)


OK, Mrs. Cunningham, I'll try to figure it by re-reading the novels. But I think you can help me with this: if the equinox is in 21 Eleint (September) and Arilyn is in Tethyr more than a tenday after the end of the novel events in 29 Eleint, how early could be the first festivals? Maybe in early Eleasias (August)? I've found references to real world harvest festivals in Aug 1 and in Aug 15... Do you think those are plausible dates?

"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."

The Paladin's Virtues, excerpt from the "Quentin's Monograph"
(by Ed Greenwood)
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author

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Posted - 05 Jan 2016 :  15:48:27  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage Send ElaineCunningham a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Barastir

quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
Unfortunately, I don't recall the particulars in enough detail to provide a useful answer. (...)


OK, Mrs. Cunningham, I'll try to figure it by re-reading the novels. But I think you can help me with this: if the equinox is in 21 Eleint (September) and Arilyn is in Tethyr more than a tenday after the end of the novel events in 29 Eleint, how early could be the first festivals? Maybe in early Eleasias (August)? I've found references to real world harvest festivals in Aug 1 and in Aug 15... Do you think those are plausible dates?



Festival days in Faerun tend to fall at the change of the month, so the first of Eleasias would be a reasonable time for a summer harvest festival.
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Barastir
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Posted - 06 Jan 2016 :  11:18:43  Show Profile  Click to see Barastir's MSN Messenger address Send Barastir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
Festival days in Faerun tend to fall at the change of the month, so the first of Eleasias would be a reasonable time for a summer harvest festival.


Thank you once again, this bit of info helped me a lot!

"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."

The Paladin's Virtues, excerpt from the "Quentin's Monograph"
(by Ed Greenwood)
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Aureus
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Posted - 20 Jan 2016 :  11:39:33  Show Profile  Send Aureus an ICQ Message Send Aureus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

Today's "Monday morning musings" post on www.elainecunningham.com discusses fantasy art an invokes the Three Patron Saints of Elvenboobs. Seriously, how can you NOT read that? ;)



I want to, but I can't find it

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ElaineCunningham
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Posted - 20 Jan 2016 :  13:20:14  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage Send ElaineCunningham a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aureus

quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

Today's "Monday morning musings" post on www.elainecunningham.com discusses fantasy art an invokes the Three Patron Saints of Elvenboobs. Seriously, how can you NOT read that? ;)



I want to, but I can't find it



Heh. That was posted quite a while back. I think I deleted it, but I'll check.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 20 Jan 2016 :  13:58:49  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My search fu lead me to a target date of August 1, 2011; I then hopped over to the Internet Archive and was soon looking at the relevant entry. I copied the formatting, but not the hyperlinks.


quote:
I’m still a few weeks away from posting Monday morning excerpts of Honor Bound. If you haven’t read Honor Among Thieves yet, you still have most of August before you run face-first into serious spoilers. At 35,000 words and $.99, Honor Among Thieves doesn’t make unreasonable demands on your summer budget or schedule. In fact, you can probably read the whole thing at the beach before your sunscreen hits the wall.

Today’s topic: Boobs.

Fantasy characters, in my opinion, are too generously endowed. I’ve been fighting this battle for years. Every time I write up art notes, I specify an A cup maximum for elves and a B for humans. Not that anyone listens. On the cover of Realms of Valor, the half-elf fighter Arilyn Moonblade is sporting porn star knockers under her unlaced shirt. But hey–Clyde Caldwell, the go-to guy when you need a cover for a book entitled, and I kid you not, Fangs for the Mammaries.

Artist Fred Fields was almost as generous in his rather zaftig portrayal of Arilyn on the first edition of Silver Shadows. When I saw the cover, I called my editor, the late Brian Thomsen, and observed, “Arilyn fights with a two-handed grip. Those puppies are going to make it difficult for her to pick up a sword, much less swing it.” His response was classic Brian: “Well, there’s a lot of magic in the Realms. They’re probably retractable.”

I wish fantasy artists would take into consideration what these characters have to do. In good design, form follows function. Consider, if you will, the busty archer. Now, take a moment to do this little exercise: Extend your left hand as if holding a longbow, then pull back the invisible string with your right hand, as far as you can go. Now look down at your chest and calculate the clearance. Oops. Suddenly putting a Victoria’s Secret model in elven archer garb doesn’t look like such a brilliant plan.

I’ve found that one of the best ways to get an artist to think in terms of reasonable boobage is to start with a visual reference: Kate Beckinsale, Evangeline Lily, Olivia Wilde. Invoking the Three Patron Saints of Elvenboobs inspired this much better representation of Arilyn.

One of the fun aspects of working on an independent series is being about to kick around art ideas with the illustrator. I thought my double-D days were over. Turns out it’s not as easy as I’d hoped.

Rainfeather Pearl is a digital artist who starts with a basic morph. I’m pretty new to 3D art, but I’ve observed that female characters tend to have Angelina Jolie lips and Jessica Rabbit boobs. Whittling the Girls down to a reasonable size can be difficult. Same goes for outfits, most of which are little more than fabric/leather/steel picture frames to showcase… you guessed it. But Rain is currently working on the cover for Honor Bound, as well as a portrait of Vishni, and she’s fighting the good fight against excessive boobage. In the near future, the world will be richer by one portrait of an elf who can actually swing a sword, and one fairy who is not aerodynamically improbable.

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Thauramarth
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Posted - 20 Jan 2016 :  15:56:43  Show Profile Send Thauramarth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That. Is. Hilarious.

(Hilarious of the "it's funny 'cause it's true" variety).

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Edited by - Thauramarth on 20 Jan 2016 15:57:12
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ElaineCunningham
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Posted - 20 Jan 2016 :  16:20:27  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage Send ElaineCunningham a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for finding that, Woolly.

The two ebooks it mentions have been removed from print. I hope to revise and republish them during 2016. And yes, any cover art will fight the good fight against excessive boobage.
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Aureus
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Posted - 20 Jan 2016 :  20:28:48  Show Profile  Send Aureus an ICQ Message Send Aureus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you very much

While I can live with the fact that art and fiction are for the most part exageration and condensation of the real world, the irony is, by giving every (female) character more or lest the same physique that would make most pornstars envious, it would also make them look prety much the same, which is boring to say the least. How is the character suposed to stand out, if they look the same as the others.
To put it into perspective:
The cutest woman I ever saw was a scrawny, insecure, pretty, 190 cm tall (she is taller than I am o.O ), fair brunette with thin shoulder long hair and thick hipster glasses. The second cutest (and I do mean cute) was 180 cm tall somewhat overweight girl with skin problems and a mane of long curly black hair, also knockers to kill for.
The sexiest woman I ever knew didn't look anything particular, she was neither pretty nor ugly, fat or scrawny, she didn't have impressive hair, so what did she have? Well, she had a voice to resurect the dead, she could have read phonenumbers out of the phonebook and I would still have thought them the sexiest numbers in the world.
The most charming woman I ever met was a a rather tiny chinese law student with a huge overbite and thick glasses that had trouble speaking German (I am studying in Germany, also, no, I do not think that having trouble speaking a language sounds cute), her voice as such was not very impressive nor was her physique, yet I wanted to believe everything she said.
The pyhsically prettiest woman I ever knew on the other hand had a gorgeous face great lips, great skin, not too tall, lovely shaped breasts, a cute @ss, lovely hands, arms and legs, even her voice was agreable, she was great with make up (and just as gorgeous without) while driven, energetic and a hard worker yet I did not particularly like her. Strangely enough, I got along greatly with her boyfriend, go figure.
The most impressive woman I have met, is a 180 cm tall super atheltic brownish redhead with blue/green eyes that practices several martial arts, studies sports, chinese and russian and has the drive and confidance to call her neighbour her preferred stalker (and yes, he is actually stalking her) simply because she can and will kick his @ss should it come to it. Appearently she broke a guy's rips when she was 12 or so, she is 20 fyi. Yeah, she is kinda bad@ass.



Btw if we are really talking pornstars and body type, even a cursory glance immediately reveals that there are many quite different successful types for quite different tastes, on both sides of the gender barrier for both sides of the gender barrier.

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The Masked Mage
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Posted - 23 Jan 2016 :  16:58:59  Show Profile  Send The Masked Mage an AOL message  Click to see The Masked Mage's MSN Messenger address Send The Masked Mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As I am enjoying your Reclamation chapters I found myself wondering if you have ever written anything about their past? Perhaps short stories about the Company of the Claw in its hay day? I would love to see more of the relationship between Elaith & Bran and see some of their adventures.
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Barastir
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Posted - 24 Jan 2016 :  10:20:04  Show Profile  Click to see Barastir's MSN Messenger address Send Barastir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well said, I'd also love short stories set in this past.

"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."

The Paladin's Virtues, excerpt from the "Quentin's Monograph"
(by Ed Greenwood)
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ElaineCunningham
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Posted - 26 Jan 2016 :  16:34:54  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage Send ElaineCunningham a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Masked Mage

As I am enjoying your Reclamation chapters I found myself wondering if you have ever written anything about their past? Perhaps short stories about the Company of the Claw in its hay day? I would love to see more of the relationship between Elaith & Bran and see some of their adventures.



I don't have any stray short stories hanging around, but I agree that prequel tales would be fun.

At the moment, though, I'm working on an e-business launch and I have a short story due at the end of February, so just-for-fun writing isn't in the cards for a while.
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Aureus
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Posted - 26 Jan 2016 :  23:11:11  Show Profile  Send Aureus an ICQ Message Send Aureus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So it is for fun-and-profit for a while ;)

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Joran Nobleheart
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Posted - 27 Jan 2016 :  05:09:10  Show Profile  Visit Joran Nobleheart's Homepage Send Joran Nobleheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello again! I was lucky enough to find a copy of your Best of the Realms book on Amazon that was being sold as used, but was brand new! Since this is a book that I've been searching for a long time, I was wondering if you might be going to GenCon this year in hopes of getting it signed. If not, is there any other way to possibly get it signed by you? It would be an even greater treasure than it already is if so.

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ElaineCunningham
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Posted - 27 Jan 2016 :  14:34:25  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage Send ElaineCunningham a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Joran Nobleheart

Hello again! I was lucky enough to find a copy of your Best of the Realms book on Amazon that was being sold as used, but was brand new! Since this is a book that I've been searching for a long time, I was wondering if you might be going to GenCon this year in hopes of getting it signed. If not, is there any other way to possibly get it signed by you? It would be an even greater treasure than it already is if so.



Hi, Joran.

Glad you found a copy! Appalling cover, isn't it? That particular shade of lime green should be reserved for beach blankets.

Alas, I won't be able to get to Gen Con this year. I'm hoping to go in 2017, though.

Getting books signed through the USPS is possible, but it's pricey and time-consuming. Basically you'd need to purchase two sets of packaging. Padded envelopes usually work okay. Include a self-addressed, stamped envelope in the package with the book, along with a note saying to whom you'd like the book signed (I'm assuming "Joran" isn't your name IRL....). I'd recommend having the package weighed at the PO, because if the postage is off, the book is more likely to be discarded than delivered. You may also want to hold off until spring, unless you have a secure, dry place for package delivery. (Books don't like to be left on snowy doorsteps.) That's not a problem on my end, as I have a PO box for delivery. It does, however, necessitate two trips to the post office, which I why I don't advocate this method on my website. Candlekeep scribes, however, are a special class of readers, and I'd happy to do this if you want to go to the effort. Alternately, I could send a signed bookplate. Either option is fine with me.

Send me a private message or email, and I'll send you my PO address.

ec
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The Masked Mage
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quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

quote:
Originally posted by Joran Nobleheart

Hello again! I was lucky enough to find a copy of your Best of the Realms book on Amazon that was being sold as used, but was brand new! Since this is a book that I've been searching for a long time, I was wondering if you might be going to GenCon this year in hopes of getting it signed. If not, is there any other way to possibly get it signed by you? It would be an even greater treasure than it already is if so.



Hi, Joran.

Glad you found a copy! Appalling cover, isn't it? That particular shade of lime green should be reserved for beach blankets.

Alas, I won't be able to get to Gen Con this year. I'm hoping to go in 2017, though.

Getting books signed through the USPS is possible, but it's pricey and time-consuming. Basically you'd need to purchase two sets of packaging. Padded envelopes usually work okay. Include a self-addressed, stamped envelope in the package with the book, along with a note saying to whom you'd like the book signed (I'm assuming "Joran" isn't your name IRL....). I'd recommend having the package weighed at the PO, because if the postage is off, the book is more likely to be discarded than delivered. You may also want to hold off until spring, unless you have a secure, dry place for package delivery. (Books don't like to be left on snowy doorsteps.) That's not a problem on my end, as I have a PO box for delivery. It does, however, necessitate two trips to the post office, which I why I don't advocate this method on my website. Candlekeep scribes, however, are a special class of readers, and I'd happy to do this if you want to go to the effort. Alternately, I could send a signed bookplate. Either option is fine with me.

Send me a private message or email, and I'll send you my PO address.

ec



Safer to use the flat rate shipping boxes... weight doesnt matter with them.
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