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Sandro
Learned Scribe

New Zealand
266 Posts

Posted - 06 Oct 2010 :  07:54:09  Show Profile  Click to see Sandro's MSN Messenger address Send Sandro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

It may be that the whole ToT is a bit too much for my kids at any rate. They are smart, but they may not get the intricacies of that particular line...while my wife would I'm sure.
Hmmm. Have they read the "Avatar" trilogy? If not, it may help to provide you with a way to gauge how they'd feel about the event.



Similarly, it might give away information about what's going on that he'd rather have a monopoly over as DM, for realism purposes in-game.

"Gods, little fishes, and spells to turn the one to the other," Mordenkainen sighed. "It's started already..."
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Jorkens
Great Reader

Norway
2950 Posts

Posted - 06 Oct 2010 :  10:23:24  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kno

why don't you Greyboxers just skip ToT, it was a minor event, a lot of good things happened until at least 1373



In my case because it feels like a different world from later versions (and I am not talking about the 4ed. here so no one start anything). There are plenty of room to change and develop, there is a Dark Age feel that I like and the rumours and happenings mentioned are a great starting point for a campaign. I prefer to start a bit earlier though, so that the Gondegal war and different problems in the Dales can be used in the background. And few of the bigger events appeal to me at all, the same goes for much of the later added history, so ToT is just one element among many I will never use. But any good idea will be taken into a campaign, no matter what edition it is from.
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Quale
Master of Realmslore

1755 Posts

Posted - 06 Oct 2010 :  10:26:53  Show Profile Send Quale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Avatar Crisis for us was an interesting concept, too hard to pass up. Whatever we disliked was changed, parts of Cyric and Finder, Ao, Tiamat's and Gilgeam's conflict. And I ran the Faction War parallel to my friend's plot in Unther. I did not care for the deaths of Bane and Bhaal, only Myrkul remained and Moander got the Crown of Horns.
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Dalor Darden
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USA
3592 Posts

Posted - 06 Oct 2010 :  17:31:03  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

It may be that the whole ToT is a bit too much for my kids at any rate. They are smart, but they may not get the intricacies of that particular line...while my wife would I'm sure.
Hmmm. Have they read the "Avatar" trilogy? If not, it may help to provide you with a way to gauge how they'd feel about the event.




Well, my players are 28, 8, 7 & 5...and while all of them can read (something that is cool for a five year old!), I just don't think I want them to read something that I may use...or may not. I think if I decide NOT to use it, then I will encourage them to read it.

Most likely, however, I think my FR will pretty much go forward in a undetermined way. Honestly, the boys like hack and slash, so I'm probably in for many a dungeon crawl and wilderness romp!

AD&D for me!
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Artemas Entreri
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USA
3084 Posts

Posted - 13 Jan 2012 :  20:50:36  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It was a close choice between the Grey Box era and Post ToT, but in the end i went with the classic 2E Post ToT.

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Edited by - Artemas Entreri on 13 Jan 2012 20:51:02
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Seravin
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Canada
805 Posts

Posted - 13 Jan 2012 :  21:00:22  Show Profile Send Seravin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Grey Box era all the way. I wish they would publish an unending stream of novels from this era.
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Artemas Entreri
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USA
3084 Posts

Posted - 13 Jan 2012 :  21:13:48  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seravin

Grey Box era all the way. I wish they would publish an unending stream of novels from this era.



I would buy them all

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Wolfhound75
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USA
215 Posts

Posted - 13 Jan 2012 :  22:03:08  Show Profile Send Wolfhound75 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Post Time of Troubles is my preferred era for play.

I feel this way because there is a sufficient amount of lore predating this era that the world is developed and complete. Also, there are still enough unexplored and out of the way areas that DMs could create whatever they wish, nearly wherever as well, without having to worry about the effect on Farmer Joe and his six cows. As Realmslore has progressed, it feels like there is less and less room for DM additions as more of the world is defined by canon writings. Call it a fantasy version of urban sprawl type of effect.

Enjoy the Realms regardless of your preferred era of Lore!


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Markustay
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USA
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Posted - 13 Jan 2012 :  22:21:39  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Looking back, I see now that my own preference (at this time) isn't even listed (although Brace did poke it with a stick).

I think post-Spellplague, Pre-4e is the ideal era to run a game, because all bets are off, and you can pick whatever you want from any edition and run with it. Hell, you can even borrow entire realms whole-cloth from other settings and have a good explanation for it. How often can you do that, and NOT violate canon?

There is a lot to be said for wedging a new edition between the last two (IMHO).

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Therise
Master of Realmslore

1265 Posts

Posted - 13 Jan 2012 :  23:02:22  Show Profile Send Therise a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ye Olde Gray Boxe (1E) for me!


4E Realms was awful, but it's water under the Boareskyr Bridge. Let's make 5E Realms truly shine!
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Varl
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USA
256 Posts

Posted - 13 Jan 2012 :  23:25:01  Show Profile Send Varl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Old Gray Box for me. It was the quintessential Realms, and Ed was in charge. Deeeelish! I still remember his Everwinking Eye articles in Dragon as being at the heart of what I learned to love most about the Realms: lore and campaign content usable by anyone at any time regardless of edition.

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Mapolq
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Brazil
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Posted - 13 Jan 2012 :  23:44:50  Show Profile Send Mapolq a Private Message  Reply with Quote
3E Realms for me. (Though it really doesn't deserve to be branded "Return of Shade" Realms...) It was a difficult choice pitting it against the older versions, but the 3E Realms has one big advantage: it includes and builds upon the vast majority of previous material. The 4E Realms on the other hand practically erase the board with the time jump and the multiple changes to the setting's geography and general feel.

1385 DR Realms could be an interesting era... if only the future wasn't set up for us already and the Spellplague could be a temporary event with a few lasting consequences like the ToT, not an all-encompassing theme for the setting. And if other changes, like the god killing spree and the cosmology could be averted or toned down. Otherwise it'd just feel like playing in a Realms that's going down the drain, and I don't like that kind of setting.

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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore

India
1591 Posts

Posted - 16 Jan 2012 :  10:33:31  Show Profile Send Thauranil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have to pick 3e realms as well . It was the most interesting, though i havent got anything against the other eras including the apparently much critised 4e.

Edited by - Thauranil on 16 Jan 2012 10:34:48
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Jakk
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Canada
2165 Posts

Posted - 18 Jan 2012 :  09:44:51  Show Profile Send Jakk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Amarel_Derakanor

I voted on the "Greenwood Realms". Easy choice. Guaranteed to be a 100% free of RSEs and real-world-culture-copies. Not to mention retroactive continuity and world design influenced by 'marketing strategies', which the 4th edition is full of.



Yep. This one gets my vote too.

Edit: Second place goes to the Old Grey Box, third place to 3E (because I like Bane and still hate Cyric, and would love to see Bhaal and Myrkul back in the pantheon).

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.

Edited by - Jakk on 18 Jan 2012 09:49:19
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glitter
Seeker

France
45 Posts

Posted - 18 Jan 2012 :  12:31:40  Show Profile Send glitter a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Until now, I considered myself as 3Ed based with some 2Ed input, but according to the poll (and after re-thinking) I'm more 2Ed based with input from AD&D + 3Ed (a bit more from 3Ed I must say).

EDIT: After 154 votes, pre-AD&D is ahead of 4th Ed ??? Come on guys, that sound amazing.

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Edited by - glitter on 18 Jan 2012 12:51:15
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Jorkens
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Norway
2950 Posts

Posted - 19 Jan 2012 :  17:15:57  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You know, I am a bit unsure about how one can really be pre-Grey box as the information given in the various Dragon articles are far too sketchy to constitute a picture of the Realms as a whole.It would be my dream to see this version, but it is impossible for me to get a coherent picture of how it was.
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MrsDrasek
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Posted - 16 Jun 2012 :  01:44:19  Show Profile  Visit MrsDrasek's Homepage Send MrsDrasek a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Post Time of Troubles Realms (2E)
Old Grey Box - original published Realms (AD&D)
Greenwood
Return of Shade Realms (3E)

All excellent for their time. I simply can't get into 4E so I am glad that time does not allow for it anymore and I know I'm not missing out on anything.

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Darkmeer
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USA
505 Posts

Posted - 16 Jun 2012 :  04:24:25  Show Profile  Visit Darkmeer's Homepage Send Darkmeer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I simply chose post-return of shade simply because it's the first grouping I DM'd for.

I loved the 2e stuff that I got my hands on, as well as all the 1e stuff I've seen thus far.

The spellplague hit me very wrong, so I am choosing not to use it in my home games, openly presenting this to my players. The game I run is MY Realms, which can contradict novels (since I've not read many of them), so I don't use that as a storehouse of knowledge entirely. There may be bits I use from finding out from the various scribes here at the 'keep, but nothing is ever certain.

Everyone has a different idea of what they want in their 'realms and their novels. That's what's making this so interesting for me to read, and enough so for me to even comment!

(yes, this is my first post back in over a year).

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Old Man Harpell
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USA
473 Posts

Posted - 17 Jun 2012 :  18:43:23  Show Profile  Visit Old Man Harpell's Homepage Send Old Man Harpell a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wow...can't believe I didn't see this...

Greenwood is my poll choice.

#2 is the Old Grey Box. Along with the accessories for it, it captured the Realms like no product since.
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Tarlyn
Learned Scribe

USA
304 Posts

Posted - 18 Jun 2012 :  11:35:59  Show Profile Send Tarlyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
1. Post Time of Troubles Realms (2E) - difficult choice, I like Bane and Bhaal far more than Cyric. However, the amount high quality lore pushed it over the top. Also, I can just have Bhaal and Bane return in my own campaign.

2. Greenwood - (pre-Old grey Box) (pre-AD&D) - just curious what realms looked like before publication.

3. Return of Shade Realms (3E) - specifically at the beginning of 3E before all of the other RSEs started.

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Venger
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USA
266 Posts

Posted - 20 Jun 2012 :  10:45:15  Show Profile Send Venger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My vote's for either the Post Time of Troubles Realms or Return of Shades Realms. It's all the same as I'm fond of the whole era, really.

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Markustay
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USA
15633 Posts

Posted - 20 Jun 2012 :  15:04:49  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Same with me - I kinda see 1e/2e/3e FR as all the same setting (settings do not have to remain static - they can move forward at a leisurely pace.

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Delwa
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USA
1244 Posts

Posted - 29 Jun 2012 :  20:16:08  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I voted for Return of Shade era as my #1 choice. My #2 would be 2E Era. Number #3 would technically be post Spellplague, but the decade preceding the Year of Blue Fire and forward in my Realms is completely different in my home game and has little to do with the Published timeline.

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archmagestar
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USA
14 Posts

Posted - 01 Jul 2012 :  04:40:13  Show Profile Send archmagestar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I believe the post time of troubles era was not only the richest in lore but also in all things Forgotten Realms. Having fell in love with the Realms and read all of the novels I can honestly say that the Spell Plague killed the Realms. The timeline jump destroyed the Forgotten Realms novels, there has been so few that are even worth reading now. As for gamming post spell plague, I cant stand it. It should have been its own world or perhaps a dimensional option if need be.

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