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Alisttair
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 :  11:30:22  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage  Click to see Alisttair's MSN Messenger address Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Poll Question:
Ok, how about we use this poll as the definitive source to know which era of the realms each scribe prefers. Vote on your #1 choice and post it so we know who you are and feel free your #2 and on choices. Remember, this is not which ruleset (D&D 3.5E, D&D 4E, Pathfinder, etc...) you prefer to use, but the realms setting based on the choices.
I'm putting this simply because in every thread it seems most scribes find the need to state which realms they prefer (which in itself is ok as long as there is no hate being spoken constantly, which has been ok lately) but that has lately acted (unintentionally on the scribes in question's part) as troll fuel.
So here I bring this poll/thread in hopes that it helps keep other threads clean of the hate railroading that has been occuring (if at least for a small ammount of time).

Choices:

Greenwood - (pre-Old grey Box) (pre-AD&D)
Old Grey Box - original published Realms (AD&D)
Post Time of Troubles Realms (2E)
Return of Shade Realms (3E)
Post Spellplague Realms (4E)
Arcane Age - Netheril
Arcane Age - (other - specify)
Other (specify)

(Anonymous Vote)

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Alisttair
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 :  11:41:12  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage  Click to see Alisttair's MSN Messenger address Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Even though I don't foresee them as being high on the choices that will be made, I'd like to clarify the differences between the last two choices in order to avoid any possible confusion.

Arcane Age (other) means anything in the past realms (mostly a couple hundred years +), examples being ancient Myth Drannor, Athalantar, or even (once (if ever) made public through CC or another medium) Anauria through my Anauria article.

Other means anything else, such as recent past prior to the grey box starting year, or a spelljamming around the realms, or a significant alteration to cannon (such as a change to more than 1 Major Deity, multiple political changes or even re-arrangements of the land masses, etc...)

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The Sage
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 :  11:42:21  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just a friendly Mod warning before we begin... Let's try to keep this discussion civil and respectful of each other's opinions. We're here to discuss ALL official interpretations of the Realms. I don't want to see a repeat of the recent series of problems plaguing other edition-based scrolls.

Thus, let me blunt:- If you've no intention of adding anything constructive to this discussion, please consider your reply before posting. I apologise for such harsh measures, but I think it's time to start trying a new strategy with respect to combating the types of "unfortunate" situations that have recently occurred.

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Edited by - The Sage on 17 Jun 2010 11:45:11
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Alisttair
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 :  11:43:25  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage  Click to see Alisttair's MSN Messenger address Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I voted for Arcane Age: Netheril as my #1 place to visit in the realms. For my top three, it is:

#2 - Return of Shade
#3 - Post Spellplague

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Alisttair
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 :  11:45:32  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage  Click to see Alisttair's MSN Messenger address Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Just a friendly Mod warning before we begin... Let's try to keep this discussion civil and respectful of each others opinions. We're here to discuss ALL official interpretations of the Realms. I don't want to see a repeat of the recent series of problems plaguing other edition-based scrolls.

Thus, let me blunt:- If you've no intention of adding anything constructive to this discussion, please consider your reply before posting. I apologise for such harsh measures, but I think it's time to start trying a new strategy with respect to combating the types of "unfortunate" situations that have recently occurred.



Thanks Sage. My thoughts exactly going through my currently troubled mind as I posted this (I'd like to come to the keep as a distraction from the people at my two jobs that have been stressing me out, not to find MORE stress).

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Talwyn
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 :  12:24:54  Show Profile  Visit Talwyn's Homepage Send Talwyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm in for the Old Grey box as it was just a great campaign accessory.

It had beautifully realised maps, great books that listed noble families and guilds and much much more.

It still has pride of place along with other D&D items that I have collected over the years.

Fun times


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Cleric Generic
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 :  12:27:00  Show Profile  Visit Cleric Generic's Homepage Send Cleric Generic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Good stuff.

Right, I went Post-Plague because it gives me alternative versions of some places I wasn't so hot on, and doesn't throw up any significant barriers to reinstating the bits I did like that were ditched. Also, stuff such as spell-scars and plague-lands tickle my DMing fancy. I'm not HUGELY familiar with the pre-ToT realms, but I'd really like to run a game in the Arcane Age prior to Lord Karsus' little snafu...

Also, my interest in the realms is largely that of a gamer, and more particularly as a DM, although it all exists in my own little imaginarium as well. I wonder if the Post-Plague realms are more popular, or at least less unpopular with gamers than with those that, for example, are more interested in novels?

EDIT: gettin' me some popcorn...

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Tyranthraxus
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 :  12:29:44  Show Profile  Visit Tyranthraxus's Homepage  Click to see Tyranthraxus's MSN Messenger address Send Tyranthraxus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I voted for Return of Shade Realms (3E). My 2nd and 3rd choices would be Post Time of Troubles Realms (2E) and Post Spellplague Realms (4E) because I'm more fimiliar with those then the earlier editions.
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Amarel Derakanor
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 :  12:29:44  Show Profile Send Amarel Derakanor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I voted on the "Greenwood Realms". Easy choice. Guaranteed to be a 100% free of RSEs and real-world-culture-copies. Not to mention retroactive continuity and world design influenced by 'marketing strategies', which the 4th edition is full of.
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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 :  12:34:44  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Time of Troubles, then Shade Realms.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Kilvan
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The Return of the Shade for me, then I guess it's just before that with the post Time of Trouble

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Bakra
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 :  13:00:35  Show Profile Send Bakra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I voted "other" because it depends. As a Scribe, I study whatever the current canonical year is at the moment. As a player I prefer post Time of Troubles.

I hope Candlekeep continues to be the friendly forum of fellow Realms-lovers that it has always been, as we all go through this together. If you don’t want to move to the “new” Realms, that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with either you or the “old” Realms. Goodness knows Candlekeep, and the hearts of its scribes, are both big enough to accommodate both. If we want them to be.
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Brimstone
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I voted other. I like the Realms reguardless the time period.

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GRYPHON
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 :  14:47:02  Show Profile  Visit GRYPHON's Homepage Send GRYPHON a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Old Grey Box and Post ToT...
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skychrome
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 :  15:00:24  Show Profile  Visit skychrome's Homepage Send skychrome a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Voted post ToT. The 2e setting feels simply like "good old times" for me, classic realmsian feel whith less frequency of RSE than in 3e. It is the period I truly like as a player.

2nd and 3rd would be Grey Box and post-spellplague realms, also due to lack of RSE.

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Apex
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 :  15:02:29  Show Profile  Visit Apex's Homepage Send Apex a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As a gamer (and usually the DM) I prefer the Old Grey Box, as it really creates a spectacular backdrop for the Realms that best brings out my imagination, without having to worry about being overly detailed or full of huge changes wrought by overeager game designers.
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Hawkins
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 :  16:55:14  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Though I loved the 3.x rules set and many of the novels set during that time, I fell in love with the setting via 2e era books, and so that is what I voted for.

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The Sage
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 :  17:05:25  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I selected OTHER. And since I can't decide, I'm going to say ALL -- as every branch of the published Realms [and what we know of the unpublished Realms {thanks to Ed here at Candlekeep}] has eventually offered something of significant value that I can utilise in my campaigns.

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Asharak
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 :  17:05:54  Show Profile  Visit Asharak's Homepage Send Asharak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
First Old Grey Box for ambiance and second Time of Troubles for lore (not the gods), after there's too much "is back again" (Shade, Imaskar, Baine...) , and for the last edition ...

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Arioch
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 :  17:23:12  Show Profile  Visit Arioch's Homepage Send Arioch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I voted for 3Ed Realms. A lot of interesting hooks for epic adventures in there! I really like to give my players an epic scope to their efforts.

I do not think that 3Ed Realms is restricted to the return of Netheril, nor that it unfolds exactly as I hoped to.

As a second choice I loved 2ed Realms.. just because I started playing in that era!

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Zireael
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 :  17:46:16  Show Profile  Visit Zireael's Homepage Send Zireael a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Voted for Arcane Age (other) - namely, Cormanthor. Wonderful thing. Second place for 3 ed. Realms - the return of Shade, Alusair as the Regent... drow on surface in Cormanthyr....

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Mr_Miscellany
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 :  18:50:15  Show Profile Send Mr_Miscellany a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I voted "other" since I don't overly prefer one era to another.
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Kyrene
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 :  19:19:37  Show Profile  Visit Kyrene's Homepage Send Kyrene a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I voted "other" for anything that revolves mainly around Neverwinter (and the Sword Coast North around it) and the Cities of the Seabreeze in an un-destroyed state. That would thus preclude what had happened to those places post-Spellplague.

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Markustay
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I'm with Misc on this one.

You should have had a 'no preference' choice - there are things I like and dislike about every edition.

The edition I have the least quibbles with would be 1e, but that's not the same as a preference. If I had a gun to my head I suppose I would have to say 3e, even though a LOT of what went into FR in 3e I dislike, if for no other reason then that it incorporates the largest amount of material I use (including all prior editions).

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Archimedes of Syracuse
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 :  20:39:35  Show Profile  Visit Archimedes of Syracuse's Homepage Send Archimedes of Syracuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i voted post ToT. I got into the realms as an occasional reader right before ToT and for some reason it turned me into a FR only reader, and ever since then i haven't read a book outside of the realms.
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Posted - 17 Jun 2010 :  20:46:10  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like the Realms-tapestry before it started being led by publishing, marketing and game-mechanical factors outside of world-building, but with the in-tune, good-faith elements that first figured in later Realms-years, from many authors, fed back in. For instance, in my Realms social and collective ties are stressed, Bhaal's and Myrkul's churches and the orthodox Banites are powers in the Inner Sea lands, Shandril's story proceeds as in Ed's unrealized outline, the Knights of Myth Drannor are in their prime in Shadowdale without that set-up being extended for decades Peter Panlike, the conflicts set out in the Old Grey Box can play out unsuspended, and the 1360s and 70s timelines are available for selective inspiration if I want them.
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