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Gambit
Learned Scribe
110 Posts |
Posted - 26 Apr 2010 : 00:02:15
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quote: Originally posted by Joran Nobleheart
quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote: Originally posted by Joran Nobleheart
A second favorite city with me is Myth Drannor when it was still ruins. I feel that Wizards really made a big mistake in bringing it back, especially seeing as how it was so incredibly easy in The Last Mythal.
I like the idea of bringing it back, but I think they did it too quickly. I'm thinking that five years after driving the fey'ri out, it'd be somewhere between a small frontier town and an armed camp, with a lot of ruins remaining to clear out.
I think I can understand that, really. I still have no clue how the few fey'ri that went with Sarya there were able to contend with the demons, devils, priests, etc that were in place inside and around the city though. Well, I know one way, but that would be speaking bad about an author, which I don't want to do here. I still wish that... certain books could have been written by an author that could approach the topic in a more intelligent fashion, and could have actually made you care about the characters involved. I apologize if I may have said something here that's considered touchy, and this is all I'll say on the matter, you have my word.
I suppose that the revival of the city could make for some interesting campaigns and adventure ideas, though. And out of curiosity, what's the current condition of Myth Drannor in 4E? I haven't read anywhere about the population of it in the new setting or how much of the city has been fully reclaimed as I'm a 3.5E/Pathfinder guy. Is there a thread anywhere here at Candlekeep that goes into more detail about the city?
Are you sure your dislike for the novels isnt at least somewhat derived from the fact that a certain moonblade weilding Bladesinger wasnt the one to reclaim the city , Richie boy went and stole your story.
I know your biggest argument is the departure from pre-written lore (Keryvian, Cloak and Dagger, ect) but I will agree with you that in the way the characters were written, I didnt connect with them on any deep rooted level and the story felt a bit contrived, much like the Spellplague.
Honestly I would have loved to see the reclamation of Myth Drannor as something for PC's to acheive, the grand fulfillment to the end of an adventure....maybe in the form of something like a Pathfinder adventure path |
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Joran Nobleheart
Senior Scribe
USA
495 Posts |
Posted - 26 Apr 2010 : 00:05:07
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LOL no, my friend. Damaston has nothing to do with this, I promise.
And trying to stick with not saying anything more on it, I agree. You know which parts, I'm sure. |
Paladinic Ethos Saint Joran Nobleheart |
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Dark Wizard
Senior Scribe
USA
830 Posts |
Posted - 26 Apr 2010 : 06:48:45
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I like the official cities with all their lore and variety, though I tend to make the strongest connections with cities I've played in. The groups I joined tend to use medium and lower profile cities in the Realms. I have fond memories of various places in Halruaa (several characters from there, one notable game set there), Scornubel (one of those rare times when we ran it really close to official sources), Westbridge (one of my first Realms games), Waymoor and Espar (probably one of the best games I've been in), and Berdusk (changed it from the sources).
My group touched briefly on bits and pieces of the Blade Kingdoms. We often used the Realms as a background starter then made up cities for the games like Irdathar, Crag Port, Atorath and others. Some were just brief visits, some served as home turf.
Looking back, now I really miss having a regular Realms game. |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4211 Posts |
Posted - 26 Apr 2010 : 07:27:34
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Zhentil Keep for me...but my true choice would have been Melvaunt on the Moonsea.
Zhentil keep because it is a solid place to have both evil city intrigue and also launch adventure into surrounding wilderness. |
The Old Grey Box and AD&D for me! |
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_Jarlaxle_
Senior Scribe
Germany
584 Posts |
Posted - 26 Apr 2010 : 07:31:49
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It depends, if I have to live in it it would be Silverymoon or maybe Waterdeep.
But just for beeing interesting there are a few like Menzoberanzzan or Atkathla |
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Tren of Twilight Tower
Seeker
51 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2010 : 01:22:28
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From offered list - Myth Drannor.
Otherwise - Evereska, followed by Myth Drannor, Silverymoon, Neverwinter, and so on.
There are so many interesting places/cities - it almost feels like cheating to pick a single one, heh.
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Jakk
Great Reader
Canada
2165 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2010 : 01:36:35
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I could have voted any of four ways on this one: Waterdeep, Silverymoon, Baldur's Gate, or Westgate. They are the four cities that never fail to make an appearance (even if only by name in conversation with NPCs or in writings found during an adventure) in every Realms campaign I have ever DM'ed or played in. I went with Waterdeep because it was the site of the most memorable moments in three major campaigns so far (the last of which is still continuing). |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
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bitter thorn
Learned Scribe
USA
184 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2010 : 06:50:50
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quote: Originally posted by Jorkens
Of those on the list, Westgate, but Iriaebor, Priapurl (OK, a bit to small for this contest) and Arabel deserves a honourable mentioning.
+1 for Arabel! |
"Nobody listens to the Ranger!"
Our groups are all sticking with 3.X classic Realms. |
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bitter thorn
Learned Scribe
USA
184 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2010 : 06:54:13
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quote: Originally posted by Zireael
I voted for Myth Drannor. The second would be Silverymoon... I just like their atmosphere and ideals, I guess.
I voted for Silverymoon for the same reasons, but I don't think a settlement has to be huge to be interesting. |
"Nobody listens to the Ranger!"
Our groups are all sticking with 3.X classic Realms. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2010 : 04:37:17
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I voted for Waterdeep, though I would have voted for Shade had it been in the list. |
Every beginning has an end. |
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Dracons
Learned Scribe
USA
299 Posts |
Posted - 13 May 2010 : 21:29:30
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I tend to do alot of games in Waterdeep/Skullport. However, some of the players favorite adventures have been at Candlekeep, Calimport, Silverymoon (Which has been destroyed in my world), and various other small places. |
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dragonfriend
Seeker
Italy
65 Posts |
Posted - 13 May 2010 : 22:56:41
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quote: Originally posted by dracons
I tend to do alot of games in Waterdeep/Skullport. However, some of the players favorite adventures have been at Candlekeep, Calimport, Silverymoon (Which has been destroyed in my world), and various other small places.
how was destroyed? just curious
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Dracons
Learned Scribe
USA
299 Posts |
Posted - 13 May 2010 : 22:59:48
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Ehh, it was unrealistic. I don't want to embrass myself by revealing it here for others to mock. But basically, the Mythal was revesersed, making all the protections enhance the enchanments, this followed by a high level fire spell eradicated the town into a ghost ruins town, where the spirits were captured to power a higher level planar spell for the main bad guy. |
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dragonfriend
Seeker
Italy
65 Posts |
Posted - 14 May 2010 : 07:41:12
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quote: Originally posted by dragonfriend
This is another curious and maybe usefull Forgotten Realms poll. I'd like to know you favorurite big city in the Realms. All city with a boxed set or a sourcebook are included. I refer only to 1e, 2e and 3e Realms.
Here we are, after 53 votes we have Waterdeep at first place, no surprise at all. We all love our most detailed city. Then: 2nd- Myth Drannor 3rd- Silverymoon 4th- Baldur's Gate
And 5Th place for Skuld! That is what surprises me. Skuld is before both the capital of Amn or even Calimport!last place for Raven's bluff with zero choices, another surprise to me.
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Sill Alias
Senior Scribe
Kazakhstan
588 Posts |
Posted - 14 May 2010 : 07:46:12
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I have bad memories of Athkatla from BG2. I felt like being the orc in Evermeet! |
You can hear many tales from many mouths. The most difficult is to know which of them are not lies. - Sill Alias
"May your harp be unstrung, your dreams die and all your songs be unsung." - curse of the harper, The Code of the Harpers 2 ed.
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SuperTina
Acolyte
1 Posts |
Posted - 14 May 2010 : 16:22:38
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Myth Drannor for me. Although Dagger Falls (which is not represented in this poll) is my true, all-time fave. |
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skychrome
Senior Scribe
713 Posts |
Posted - 14 May 2010 : 16:55:45
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quote: Originally posted by dragonfriend
quote: Originally posted by dragonfriend
This is another curious and maybe usefull Forgotten Realms poll. I'd like to know you favorurite big city in the Realms. All city with a boxed set or a sourcebook are included. I refer only to 1e, 2e and 3e Realms.
Here we are, after 53 votes we have Waterdeep at first place, no surprise at all. We all love our most detailed city. Then: 2nd- Myth Drannor 3rd- Silverymoon 4th- Baldur's Gate
And 5Th place for Skuld! That is what surprises me. Skuld is before both the capital of Amn or even Calimport!last place for Raven's bluff with zero choices, another surprise to me.
Skuld also surprised me in a very positive way.
Regarding Raven“s Bluff: I love the city, but if I have to pick one favorite only, then it is only second favorite with a few others. I think this is probably what happened to many here: Raven“s Bluff is not number one, but that does not mean that it is not among the favorites. |
"You make an intriguing offer, one that is very tempting. It would seem that I have little alternative than to answer thusly: DISINTEGRATE!" Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick 625 |
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Thauramarth
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
729 Posts |
Posted - 14 May 2010 : 17:24:14
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Waterdeep for me. Mostly because it's such a staple city in most of the campaigns I have done (my preferred areas of the Realms being the Savage Frontier and the Western Heartlands...). In those, sooner or later, everybody ends up in Waterdeep's bars. |
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BARDOBARBAROS
Senior Scribe
Greece
581 Posts |
Posted - 15 May 2010 : 19:32:09
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Zhentil Keep.... |
BARDOBARBAROS DOES NOT KILL. HE DECAPITATES!!!
"The city changes, but the fools within it remain always the same" (Edwin Odesseiron- Baldur's gate 2) |
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Caladan Brood
Senior Scribe
Norway
410 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jun 2013 : 19:05:02
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Most (but perhaps not all) cities of Faerūn have something setting them apart. I like the Moonsea cities, Hillsfar, Zhentil Keep, etc., I like Waterdeep, Baldur's Gate, Zazesspur.. I like Iriaebor, Westgate, Raven's Bluff, Tantras...Arabel, Suzail, Marsember...so I find myself unable to settle for one :) |
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The Arcanamach
Master of Realmslore
1842 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jun 2013 : 22:50:50
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I voted for Waterdeep for all of the obvious reasons and I consider Slullport to be a ward of the city.
That said my favorite city is my homebrew city of Starcrown. |
I have a dream that one day, all game worlds will exist as one. |
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Entromancer
Senior Scribe
USA
388 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jun 2013 : 00:55:20
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Luskan circa The Pirate King and the city where Tchazzar set up shop in the first 3 books of Richard's Brotherhood of the Griffon series. |
"...the will is everything. The will to act."--Ra's Al Ghul
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Tarlyn
Learned Scribe
USA
315 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jun 2013 : 04:02:20
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My top three: 1. Silverymoon 2. Waterdeep 3. Myth Drannor |
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Plaguescarred
Learned Scribe
Canada
190 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jun 2013 : 04:04:10
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Waterdeep is my favorite Realms city, with its underhalls in Undermountain, Skullport, all the way up to the Rat Hills. |
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Emma Drake
Learned Scribe
USA
206 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jun 2013 : 04:24:35
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I was torn between Silverymoon and Waterdeep. |
"I am always here, all about you. You are never truly alone. I flow wherever life flows, wherever winds blow and water runs and the sun and moon chase each other, for there is magic in all things."
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carbos
Acolyte
14 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jun 2013 : 23:45:48
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Athkatla and Baldur's Gate. I love Infinity Engine games. |
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MrHedgehog
Senior Scribe
688 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jun 2013 : 01:45:28
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As the setting for an Adventure definitely Calimport. It is a huge city with evil, and good all mixed together with a lot of potential for intrigue and locations for dungeons. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jun 2013 : 18:20:42
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I don't like city (RPG) adventures, but I liked most of the cities in the fiction.
If I had to pick a city (pre-4e), I'd probably say Westgate, because I would have actually been interested in running an adventure there (cities to me seem more like 'stopovers/rest stations', then adventure sites... but thats just me).
Post-4e, there are many I like, from a DM's perspective. I like things a bit gritty. Now the settlements themselves have a 'Points of Light' feel to them. |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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MrHedgehog
Senior Scribe
688 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jun 2013 : 18:42:29
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Part of the reason I don't like the idea of waterdeep, silverymoon, westgate, etc. is because I imagine them being really cold! But I guess the heat of Calimshan would be just as bad |
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Lily M Green
Learned Scribe
Australia
115 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jun 2013 : 04:27:08
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Obviously being a PC gamer first my bias would be for Baldur's Gate & Athkatla but Westgate and Velen have some interesting appeal too. |
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