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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
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Posted - 18 Mar 2010 :  13:40:29  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is magnificently done Kyrene - and long needed. It'll certainly help me kick-start my glossary (which is just in list form and not yet alphabetised). Great job!

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Daviot
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Posted - 21 Mar 2010 :  02:24:20  Show Profile  Visit Daviot's Homepage  Send Daviot an AOL message Send Daviot a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Indeed. Bravo, sir.

One usually has far more to fear from the soft-spoken wizard with a blade and well-worn boots than from the boisterous one in the ivory tower.
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Dart Ambermoon
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Posted - 02 Apr 2010 :  13:25:06  Show Profile  Visit Dart Ambermoon's Homepage Send Dart Ambermoon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Late to comment, but that´s awesome and thank you very, very much.

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arry
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Apr 2010 :  16:52:55  Show Profile Send arry a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Likewise. Thanks for the very hard work
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Kyrene
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South Africa
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Posted - 08 Apr 2010 :  07:38:05  Show Profile  Visit Kyrene's Homepage Send Kyrene a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you all, but it is by no means finished (if it ever will be). However, after the last edit the list is now over 1K long. That makes me very happy.

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Elfinblade
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Norway
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Posted - 19 Apr 2010 :  22:07:04  Show Profile Send Elfinblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Amazing effort Kyrene! This will prove handy indeed :)
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Alisttair
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Canada
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Posted - 06 May 2010 :  15:10:40  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage  Click to see Alisttair's MSN Messenger address Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Finally looked at this. Very well done. Lots of work in there for sure.

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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore

Germany
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Posted - 07 May 2010 :  12:14:06  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I found another word of the Realms for your list:

"itchy" or "itchies" [plural] - professional assassins often reffered to adveturers as "itchies" - as in, itching to prove themselves, itching for a fight. (Twilight Falling, The Erevis Cale Trilogy Book I, p. 52 by Paul S. Kemp)

"Das Gras weht im Wind, wenn der Wind weht."

Edited by - Ergdusch on 07 May 2010 12:17:56
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore

Germany
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Posted - 09 May 2010 :  22:02:13  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
While gathering more cormyr-related information I came across yet another word/phrase of the Realms:

"roadship" - peddler's carts, sturdy wooden boxes on four wheels in which merchants stored their goods for travel. (Twilight Falling, The Erevis Cale Trilogy Book I, p. 33 by Paul S. Kemp)

"Das Gras weht im Wind, wenn der Wind weht."
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Kyrene
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South Africa
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Posted - 10 May 2010 :  08:42:26  Show Profile  Visit Kyrene's Homepage Send Kyrene a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Ergdusch. I have the Cale books so I will be sure to look up those references and add them to the list.

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I am a sexy, shoeless god of war!

The Sellplague began, for all intents and purposes, in the dominions of the Corporation. Greed murdered Good Design, unraveling common sense in the cosmos and destroying her dominion. At the same time, Sales Fears and Warcraft Envy happened into alignment. This cataclysmic coincidence led to upheaval, shaking apart the primeval order, opening up holes in wallets, and reshaping everything...
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The_Silversword
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USA
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Posted - 19 May 2010 :  11:30:12  Show Profile  Send The_Silversword an AOL message Send The_Silversword a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Awesome list man! Found one for you while reading through The North Box set: Rainspout, a large-brimmed hat.-page 5 of the Cities book in the box set.

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Kyrene
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South Africa
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Posted - 19 May 2010 :  17:50:04  Show Profile  Visit Kyrene's Homepage Send Kyrene a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks The_Silversword. Duly added (along with "Amphailan", to help describe it).

Lost for words? Find them in the Glossary of Phrases, Sayings & Words of the Realms

I am a sexy, shoeless god of war!

The Sellplague began, for all intents and purposes, in the dominions of the Corporation. Greed murdered Good Design, unraveling common sense in the cosmos and destroying her dominion. At the same time, Sales Fears and Warcraft Envy happened into alignment. This cataclysmic coincidence led to upheaval, shaking apart the primeval order, opening up holes in wallets, and reshaping everything...
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gomez
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Netherlands
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Posted - 04 Jun 2010 :  20:51:57  Show Profile  Visit gomez's Homepage Send gomez a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am missing coinlass and pleasurelass.
A coinlass (not sure where I saw it used) is a prostitute, I believe a pleasurelass (used in City of Splendor) is a bit of a broader term (more like a nightclub dancer, I think).
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coach
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USA
476 Posts

Posted - 05 Jun 2010 :  01:14:47  Show Profile Send coach a Private Message  Reply with Quote
K. Miscellaneous
1. Vaasan sayings
a. “Even the tallest horse would wet its belly” [saying about Vaasan bogs] (FR9 p3)
b. “A man’s word is more precious than his life” [Vaasan honesty] (RoS p97)
c. "The fur of the clever fox is finest" (Summ p99)
d. "Sharing the fur" [Vaasan saying for monogamy] (Summ p264)
e. "Life Pledge" [Vaasan term for monogamy] (Summ p264)
f. "In love and death, only the gods choose" [Vaasans believe you can't choose these two things yourself] (Summ p269)

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coach
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USA
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Posted - 05 Jun 2010 :  01:20:10  Show Profile Send coach a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Vaasan women "always in season" [Vaasan women are promiscuous] (Siege p169)

"ice-hatched" [derogatory term towards Vaasans] (Siege)

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coach
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USA
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Posted - 05 Jun 2010 :  01:22:24  Show Profile Send coach a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"Deed not Blood" [Narfell tribal leaders decided by combat prowess not bloodlines] (FRCS p108)

Bloodstone Lands Sage
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coach
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USA
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Posted - 05 Jun 2010 :  01:28:37  Show Profile Send coach a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i have a gillion more of these from Bloodstone Lands area, will post em a lil at a time as i get time

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Kyrene
Senior Scribe

South Africa
648 Posts

Posted - 05 Jun 2010 :  12:26:35  Show Profile  Visit Kyrene's Homepage Send Kyrene a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gomez

I am missing coinlass and pleasurelass.
A coinlass (not sure where I saw it used) is a prostitute, I believe a pleasurelass (used in City of Splendor) is a bit of a broader term (more like a nightclub dancer, I think).


Duly added to my TODO: list.
Edit: I came accross only one reference to "coinlass", and the context doesn't make it clear enough to use as a citation.
Was "pleasurelass" in the CoS novel, or the sourcebook?

Lost for words? Find them in the Glossary of Phrases, Sayings & Words of the Realms

I am a sexy, shoeless god of war!

The Sellplague began, for all intents and purposes, in the dominions of the Corporation. Greed murdered Good Design, unraveling common sense in the cosmos and destroying her dominion. At the same time, Sales Fears and Warcraft Envy happened into alignment. This cataclysmic coincidence led to upheaval, shaking apart the primeval order, opening up holes in wallets, and reshaping everything...

Edited by - Kyrene on 05 Jun 2010 13:12:32
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Kyrene
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South Africa
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Posted - 05 Jun 2010 :  12:29:03  Show Profile  Visit Kyrene's Homepage Send Kyrene a Private Message  Reply with Quote
coach,

Can I ask you to repost all the above, but in context as you found them in your sources, to me in a PM? I don't have FR9, and I'm not sure what "RoS", "Summ" or "Siege" are. And if it's a PM, we don't run the risk of posting too much from copyrighted material.
The FRCS one I'll add as soon as I can added.

Lost for words? Find them in the Glossary of Phrases, Sayings & Words of the Realms

I am a sexy, shoeless god of war!

The Sellplague began, for all intents and purposes, in the dominions of the Corporation. Greed murdered Good Design, unraveling common sense in the cosmos and destroying her dominion. At the same time, Sales Fears and Warcraft Envy happened into alignment. This cataclysmic coincidence led to upheaval, shaking apart the primeval order, opening up holes in wallets, and reshaping everything...

Edited by - Kyrene on 05 Jun 2010 13:54:18
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rjfras
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261 Posts

Posted - 05 Jun 2010 :  14:01:34  Show Profile  Visit rjfras's Homepage Send rjfras a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gomez

I am missing coinlass and pleasurelass.
A coinlass (not sure where I saw it used) is a prostitute, I believe a pleasurelass (used in City of Splendor) is a bit of a broader term (more like a nightclub dancer, I think).



From the Ask Ed files:

In the list that follows, "ND" means 'not derogatory,' a neutral, formal term, acceptable in polite society conversations, proclamations, etc. "M" means mild (common figure of speech, not really an insult), and "E" means derived from Elvish slang. Also, assume descriptive phrases to be Common, and unfamiliar (invented) words to be words from various other languages and local dialects, adopted into Common. Materials inside quotation marks are pronunciations.

For obvious reasons, most of these will probably never appear in published Realms products.

male homosexual ND = liyan (E: "LEE-awwn"), praed (derived from gnome slang)
effeminate male homosexual = dathna ND, simpering man-lover
bisexual man ND = tasmar
lecher M = winker
Casanova, tireless woman-chaser = cod-loose winker
masochistic man = dusk
[note: refers to a male who enjoys self-bondage and/or being bound, being whipped or pierced or otherwise hurt]
cross-dresser (either gender) ND = saece (E: "SAY-sss")
male or female who enjoys being forcibly enspelled (including shapechanging) as part of sexual play = wild one, thaethiira (E: "thAY-th-EAR-ah")
prostitute ND = coin-lass, coin-lad
[note: the above is roughly the equivalent of our phrase "neighbourhood professional;" I haven't listed less polite euphemisms because there are literally dozens]
lesbian ND = thruss
dyke = battlebud
butch (manly woman) = harnor
submissive female M = rose
masochistic female M = dusk rose
[note: the above refers to a female who enjoys self-bondage and/or being bound, being whipped or pierced or otherwise hurt]
'loose' female = wanton, slut, sreea (E: "SREE-uh")
bisexual female = shaeda (E: "SHAY-dah")

So saith Ed.
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rjfras
Learned Scribe

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Posted - 05 Jun 2010 :  14:08:17  Show Profile  Visit rjfras's Homepage Send rjfras a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Others that I have copied from Ed's answers:

blade" is a term for a young idle lad given to wild attitude and deeds (what in certain real-world times and places was called a "layabout" or "roustabout"). In Waterdeep and Cormyr, it has come to mean only young male nobles (of wild habits and speech), yes.

A "boldblade" is a rogue, chaser-of-skirts, or "bad boy" who dallies "with the ladies" (or tries to make others think he does, cultivating that image: the dashingly handsome cad who darts in through bedchamber windows late at night, pinches bottoms, and so on). This should not be confused with "Blade" (beginning in upper-case/capitals), the title of one of the rulers of Mulmaster (whereof "The High Blade" is THE top dog).

So, ahem, SOME adventurers could well be "boldblades," or labelled as such by the populace. :}

"lad" and "lass" aren't insults unless said nastily to a very pompous person of mature years: they're terms of casual endearment (like British ladies of a certain sage call everyone "love" and American salesladies of a certain age call everyone "dear") or 'neutral friendly' words to describe young persons. Old men sometimes call old women "lass" to flatter or court them, and mean it as a compliment, not an insult (it's all in the WAY it's said).

Lad, blade (a young reckless, high-spirited, or pranksome youth, especially noble or wealthy; 'highcharger' is another Sword Coast equivalent), jack (also means older male or male servant, as part of a compound word such as 'doorjack,' 'stablejack,' and so on), fist (someone who's strong or should be able to help with a physical task), boots (a traveller, usually seeking employment or good fortune), stick

Lass, maid (in many rural areas, 'maid' is short for maiden, and means unmarried and presumably virgin young female - - but in most cities, 'maid' means young female not obviously married to a male, or accompanied by a male partner, and makes no judgement whatsoever as to virginity or availability), dunlass (young girl, tomboy, girl seen out alone when the speaker thinks she shouldn't be), hipskirts (polite term for a nice-looking woman, used by either gender wishing to express friendly mild admiration but NOT rudeness or [necessarily, yet] any flirtatious invitation)

"Any lad and lass" is the Realms equivalent of "Every Tom, Dick, and Harry."
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rjfras
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Posted - 05 Jun 2010 :  14:09:02  Show Profile  Visit rjfras's Homepage Send rjfras a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Almost all forms of address are REALLY insulting only when combined with other words and tones of voice, and/or context. Lots of folk in the Realms can curse quick colourfully (surprise!) and insults are therefore many and varied (if they survive into the final draft, you'll really get a sampling early in SWORDS OF EVENINGSTAR, when an angry young noblewoman is assailing a servant with a hot and colourful verbal tirade), but here are a few widely-used general insults:

neck, horse, lout (always applied to a male, to mean someone who behaves rudely, and stupidly, stubbornly, or selfishly; the rough equivalent of 'sh*thead' or "a right bastard")

haunch, dungshill, tornscabbard (always applied to a male, to mean a troublemaker who likes to start fights and/or beat up others, or vandalize, or bully, or play pranks; someone who's seen as having a mean streak, or to be sadistic)

wench (female in a subservient position, e.g. a servant; insulting only if said to someone nastily, or to a female who's NOT a servant or subservient [i.e. shouted by a backalley lout at a wealthy lady], or if said to a male)

longclaws (spitfire, bitch or witch, which are also terms used in the Realms, always applied to females of shrewish disposition [hot-tempered and harsh-tongued, or bullying])

rarecrown (as in "a proper rarecrown," this word means the sort of 'Mrs. Grundy' female who likes to control the behaviour of others around her, and pass judgement on everyone, and have such judgements agreed with [or else!])

jackslice (a murderous woman, or one who will get even through violence, either poisoning, or manipulating or deceiving others, including law-keepers, into harming those she dislikes or who've disagreed with her; someone dangerous; "an old jackslice" is the Realms term for what rural Europeans a century back would have called "an old witch;" the word "jackslice" derives from someone who literally sliced or tried to use a knife on a male - - or at least on his genitals)

kisscloak (flirt, applied to females; is a term of affection or even admiration, equivalent to "she's such a tease!")

winker (lecher, applied to both genders)

kisscock, lickhips, boldshake, daedra (all of these are insulting terms for a slut [in the modern American meaning of a wanton woman] or prostitute; note that there are many, many euphemisms for prostitutes used when one doesn't want to be really insulting, and that 'boldshake' is mild enough to be used freely in mixed company, or not taken as an insult by those who don't want to feel insulted)

staggers, oldbottle, slurk (drunkard, especially a lazy drunk who does no work or little work, and can be found drunk at all hours; applied to both genders)

spincoin (a two-faced, deceitful person of either gender)
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rjfras
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Posted - 05 Jun 2010 :  14:10:49  Show Profile  Visit rjfras's Homepage Send rjfras a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Ed replies: As THO posted, “brightlass” COULD be used, but probably wouldn’t be, thanks to that more prevalent “good time girl” meaning it has acquired. The “ultra-polite” term is “confidant,” which of course has a long-established no-sex-at-all meaning, so the word is usually spoken with a wink to denote the second meaning.
The more often employed term is “my lady of the hearth” (meaning: someone I can relax and be cozy with, spending the night, with the unspoken addendums of “and have sex with” and “I pay to keep her in this haven I see her in”). Note that a “lady of the hearth” can be shared by three patrons or less (more makes her a prostitute, and I’ve already related some of the great array of Realms terms for that profession), but always implies someone installed in living quarters, and fed and clothed well, by those patrons.
There’s an old Cormyrean word, “saerla,” that means “unmarried wife,” but this means not just a mistress but “someone I’ve fathered children with,” who remains a friend (if a man says, “She used to be my saerla” it means we’re no longer on friendly terms, NOT “I’m now married or she’s now married so she can’t be called a saerla anymore”).
A new term, gaining popularity in Suzail, is “nightskirts,” which used to mean “sophisticated prostitute I can pass off as a lady of high breeding,” but is now starting to mean something like “bedmate I treat as a lady of breeding, paying for her bed and the walls around it - - because she’s worth it.”

Favor Residences: this is the polite term for city lodgings maintained by a wealthy patron for mistresses and brightlads. They are essentially the same as the family townhomes, though they vary in size and grandeur by their location and origin, and the Haldoneirs keep fourteen such places, two of them currently empty (that is, rented out on a “short-stay” basis, usually a tenday at a time, to wealthy visitors to the city, such as factors and successful merchants from Sembia) and a dozen housing partners of various family members. It should be noted that nobles who own such residences tend to keep hiding places for certain items, and “side wardrobes” for themselves, in locked or even “secret” areas of the homes, with the rest being furnished more or less as the occupant (the mistress or brightlad) desires.
The House Haldoneir favor residences are distanced from the family townhomes, and so tend to be scattered throughout the eastern half of Suzail, south of the Promenade. Of these, two are “fairly rough” (as are their occupants), and are near the harbor.
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rjfras
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Posted - 05 Jun 2010 :  14:11:37  Show Profile  Visit rjfras's Homepage Send rjfras a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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What's the Realms' version of "Hail the camp!"? Are there special procedures or etiquette that comes into play? How is this different between the North, Tethyr, and the Dalelands/Cormyr? Also, what about racial differences (a party of elves, of dwarves)?"

Ed replies:

The usual practice is to speak loudly, some variation on: "Ho! Peace be upon you! May we approach?" or "Firebright, swords sheathed, are we welcome?"

In Cormyr, this would change to: "In the name of the Dragon, we come in peace!" unless the speakers are Purple Dragons, War Wizards, or royal courtiers, who would say, "In the name of the King, we are [they'd identify their professions], and we come in peace!" A noble party (of one family and their retainers) might say: By the Dragon, we are of House [family name], and we come in peace! Let there be peace between us!"

In the Dales, the greeting is usually: "I ride peace, and it rides me! Ho for a place at the fire!"

In both the North and Tethyr, there's some sort of "Hail!" and self-identification, followed by "Let there be peace between us!"

Pilgrims and clerical parties usually say, "In the name of [the deity; usually a descriptive phrase such as "Lady of Mysteries" is spoken here, rather than the name], let peace live (or flower) between us!

Elves and dwarves, within their own lands, have short sung (elves) and chanted (dwarves) phrases that boil down to "Hi, we're approaching, but we come in peace!"

The elf phrase translates to:

Fair be our meeting, for our hearts are light and our swords sheathed, we hold peace in our hands and its light guides us.

The dwarf chant translates as:

We come, walking on, just walking on, no trouble here, no axe-hunger here, no feud nor fight sought here. We come. We come, as passing breeze not invader. We come.

So saith Ed.
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rjfras
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what are the Faerûnian equivalents for the word-concept 'Reaver'? I'd imagine that there are all manner of words for bandits and marauders, of course - including quite a few that probably don't bear repetition in polite company - but I'd like words/phrases which convey a real sense of dread and an impression of truly bestial, over-the-top brutal savagery. An especial focus on Chondathan, elven, and Damaran terms would be nice, but you're probably a little too overloaded to be so specific, so anything you can throw my way would be appreciated.

Thanks muchly."

Ed replies:

Sure, here we go:

Common gives us the relevant terms "darkblades" for irresponsibly violent mercenaries and warriors (apt to "get out of hand" when given orders, lovers-of-violence and cruelty), "bloodhilts" and "proper bloodhilt work" for butchery and kill-everyone-for-the-satisfaction-of-it sprees, and "bloodstorms" for large and terrible slaughters (massacres that wipe out villages, genocide-like executions of everyone of a race or gender in an area, and so on).

Chondathan has "rakrathen" for professional pirates, mercenaries, and outlaws-through-choice who kill wantonly, and "garrathen" for their raids, but it also has "culdur" for berserk or maniacal slaughter.

Damaran uses "sturrulk" for senseless slaying, "lultaur" ("lull-TOR") for massacres or large-scale butchery, and "lessaelen" for wanton destruction (burning good shelter in winter or when winter is approaching, despoiling wells or food, leaving bodies to attract monstrous scavengers and so endanger others, and so on).

Elven provdes the word "essraul" for enthusiastic slaying (and the resort to killing over diplomacy or other means of dealing with foes or conflicts), and "arkhdrauth" for willful, wanton, care-for-nothing destruction. "Hahlorkh" are butchers: non-elf brutes and savages - - or (as a deadly insult) elves who behave that way (which is why some elves call drow "lorkh," implying they're all savage butchers who lost their elven nature long ago through such behaviour).

And yes, "a little too overloaded" describes my life very well, these days. :}

So saith Ed.
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