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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 20 Nov 2010 :  14:41:57  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus

So, I can't help but feel a question I asked back on page 89 was over looked(was commented on by one Wooly Rupert, but I was asking Ed/THO), so I'm going to repost it.



It wasn't overlooked.

Ed already has a huge backlog of questions, some going back years. He's got many demands on his time, as well, which is why he can't always readily lay hands on a requested bit of lore and/or provide thoughts/opinions on something.

Our lovely Lady Hooded One passes on all the questions and commentary in this thread, and has been known to do the same for other discussions, as well.

So Ed will get to your question. He may surprise us and have an answer an hour from now, or it may be a couple years -- both have happened to me. All we can do is be patient.

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The Sage
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Posted - 20 Nov 2010 :  15:03:53  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus

So, I can't help but feel a question I asked back on page 89 was over looked(was commented on by one Wooly Rupert, but I was asking Ed/THO), so I'm going to repost it.



It wasn't overlooked.

Ed already has a huge backlog of questions, some going back years. He's got many demands on his time, as well, which is why he can't always readily lay hands on a requested bit of lore and/or provide thoughts/opinions on something.

Our lovely Lady Hooded One passes on all the questions and commentary in this thread, and has been known to do the same for other discussions, as well.

So Ed will get to your question. He may surprise us and have an answer an hour from now, or it may be a couple years -- both have happened to me. All we can do is be patient.

Indeed. This can't be stressed enough.

I know it can seem, sometimes, like there is just such a backlog that something or some question may be missed along the way. But rest assured, the Lady Hooded One is ever vigilant. And, as I've made clear to her previously, should she require any further assistance in this matter, either myself or Wooly stand ready to ensure that no question -- no matter when it was asked -- is ever overlooked.

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Ayrik
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Posted - 20 Nov 2010 :  15:51:37  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message
My observation is that the longer the question remains unanswered, the more surprising and rich the answer becomes. The answers Ed and THO fire off "from the hip" tend to be of the more easy variety, whereas delays indicate much pondering and digging through lore (and communing with outer planes) is needed to provide the answer.

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Edited by - Ayrik on 20 Nov 2010 15:52:03
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Sandstorm
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Posted - 21 Nov 2010 :  23:47:35  Show Profile  Visit Sandstorm's Homepage  Click to see Sandstorm's MSN Messenger address Send Sandstorm a Private Message
Hey THO/ ED. Any reasoning as to why Gnomes were left out of 4th edition?
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Markustay
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Posted - 22 Nov 2010 :  00:11:32  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
Ed had very little to do with the direction of 4e D&D itself. That was a design-decision made by the in-house guys pertaining to 'unnecessary redundancy' (we already have the Halflings). 'Gnome Illusionists' were a throwback to the early days of D&D, and there really isn't much of a need for the Gnome race now, and space-considerations had to be given to the two new core races - Tieflings and Dragonborn.

All that being said, Gnomes were never very important in FR (I'm not even sure if Ed bothered with them), and they were from the beginning referred to as the "hidden folk" (IIRC).

The designers wanted to give them more of a 'fey connection' in 4e, which I am fine with, and although I can't speak for Ed, I think his take on them probably wasn't far-off from that either.

The better people to ask as to why such decisions were made would be Chris Perkins, Rich Baker, and Bruce Cordell. Ed's usually 'in the loop', but he doesn't 'make the loop' (when it comes to rules).

EDIT: It appears they decided to eventually include them, regardless - shows you how much I know.

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Edited by - Markustay on 23 Nov 2010 02:05:11
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Ayrik
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Posted - 22 Nov 2010 :  02:34:40  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message
My sig links to more of these little videos, several feature the gnome.

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Malcolm
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Posted - 22 Nov 2010 :  02:58:11  Show Profile  Visit Malcolm's Homepage Send Malcolm a Private Message
Ed,
I just wanted to say how darned impressed I was with you, on ALL of the panels you were on at SFContario (yes, I managed to find and take in all of them).
Your wit, your wisdom, your earnest eagerness to help wannabe sf and fantasy writers with advice and caveats and examples and cautionary tales . . .
And the last panel just blew me away. Fellow scribes, imagine an hour-long discussion on "Family Trees of Fantasy" (that is, how fantasy fiction today includes elements from this or that earlier writer or literary tradition or cultural storytelling form, so themes or styles or elements or topics descend down from earlier times).
Moderated by Teresa Nielsen Hayden, the panel consisted of sf writers James Alan Gardner and Michael Swanwick, fantasy/sf writer Jo Walton, and Ed. Michael Swanwick and Ed in particular were just racing through lore and allusions and explanations and examples at top speed: it was one of those magical moments (an hour-long one) where I just sat listening as REAL experts enthused and built on each other's points and poured out more and more lore. Pure gold.
Ed, you deserve greater praise than I know how to adequately give. We know you're brilliant and generous, but to watch you stop for shy fans and sit down with them to read their stories and give really helpful advice and a pep talk and a hug and send them away glowing . . . I think you "made" a lot of peoples' weekend today and yesterday.
And of course if just one of them becomes a good fantasy or sf writer because of your encouragement at the right moment, we all gain.
You ARE a great man. And a great falsetto, too (there was a moment at a filk performance where the female singer's voice broke as she started to cough. Ed was standing signing autographs outside the room in the hall, and delivered the high and soaring missing note for the stricken singer, much to her astonishment and the audience, too, who roared out applause because it was unexpected, but sounded almost as if it had been planned).
Great Ed, just . . . great.
Looking forward to seeing you again at Ad Astra.
Thanks for "making" the con for me.

Edited by - Malcolm on 22 Nov 2010 03:00:50
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Sandstorm
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Posted - 22 Nov 2010 :  07:37:43  Show Profile  Visit Sandstorm's Homepage  Click to see Sandstorm's MSN Messenger address Send Sandstorm a Private Message
Wow. SOOOO upset I didn't get to go. 3 hour drive away, and I had to work.
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Ayrik
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Posted - 22 Nov 2010 :  08:42:53  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message
I see names of authors whose works I highly appreciate on that list. I can only comment that, for some utterly inexplicable reason, all of my favourite writers (Ed and Swanwick included) tend to be the ones who cultivate the most, uh, eccentric distinctions of character. I wonder if a certain degree of nonconformity is an essential trait for stoking the fires of creative muse or if it's just some bizarre medical symptom indicative of a writer's lifestyle.

(Meant in the best possible way, I aspire to be as bold as these paradigms.)

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Mr_Miscellany
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Posted - 22 Nov 2010 :  21:51:09  Show Profile Send Mr_Miscellany a Private Message
Hello THO and Ed!

Are there any nobles that have earned a particularly nasty reputation amongst the War Wizards?

I’m thinking along the lines of a murderous noble who has a hate for War Wizards (for whatever reason: madness, magical curse placed by a rival and meant to destabilize the family, or cold hatred born of vengeance or belief War Wizards must pay for some past evil or slight against the family) and delights in killing them off?

The sort of situation I'm imagining is one where a War Wizard assigned to such a Noble House can expect his comrades to look upon him grimly and say, “Have you a ring of proof against poison? Conjure up a mundane duplicate, enchant it to appear magical and wear the original on your toe, for you’re guaranteed to run afoul of the Matron of the house and be dead within a tenday, once she’s had her thieving manservant steal away your rings and other protections. And no, we don't know yet how she's killing us off, but we're certain as we can be absent tangible proof that she's the murderer.”

I imagine the Crown would take notice if its War Wizards kept dying mysterious deaths while “on watch” over a noble house. If such as I’ve described has happened in Cormyr’s history, what was the fallout for the noble house (if any)?

Lastly, was there ever a period of time where certain of the noble houses (or certain members within each) made a sport of killing War Wizards and hiding evidence of the act in order to signal their displeasure with the King’s or Royal Mage’s policies?

Thank you as always! :)

Edited by - Mr_Miscellany on 22 Nov 2010 22:07:55
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Chosen of Asmodeus
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Posted - 22 Nov 2010 :  21:58:06  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Asmodeus's Homepage Send Chosen of Asmodeus a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus

So, I can't help but feel a question I asked back on page 89 was over looked(was commented on by one Wooly Rupert, but I was asking Ed/THO), so I'm going to repost it.



It wasn't overlooked.

Ed already has a huge backlog of questions, some going back years. He's got many demands on his time, as well, which is why he can't always readily lay hands on a requested bit of lore and/or provide thoughts/opinions on something.

Our lovely Lady Hooded One passes on all the questions and commentary in this thread, and has been known to do the same for other discussions, as well.

So Ed will get to your question. He may surprise us and have an answer an hour from now, or it may be a couple years -- both have happened to me. All we can do is be patient.

Indeed. This can't be stressed enough.

I know it can seem, sometimes, like there is just such a backlog that something or some question may be missed along the way. But rest assured, the Lady Hooded One is ever vigilant. And, as I've made clear to her previously, should she require any further assistance in this matter, either myself or Wooly stand ready to ensure that no question -- no matter when it was asked -- is ever overlooked.



My apologies, both to Ed, THO, and the board for seeming impatient; just noticed that some people got some type of response, if not a direct answer.

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Markustay
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Posted - 23 Nov 2010 :  02:09:13  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Mr_Miscellany

Hello THO and Ed!

Are there any nobles that have earned a particularly nasty reputation amongst the War Wizards?

I’m thinking along the lines of a murderous noble who has a hate for War Wizards (for whatever reason: madness, magical curse placed by a rival and meant to destabilize the family, or cold hatred born of vengeance or belief War Wizards must pay for some past evil or slight against the family) and delights in killing them off?

IIRC, Ed named several families that fit that bill, and even went into some detail about one of them (I remember something about 'evil uncles', and two not-so-nice girls). Very good, detailed material - real 'old school' FR.

I'm sure Sage will be along with the link - it was probably in last year's 'Questions for Ed'.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 23 Nov 2010 02:14:12
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uaintjak
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Posted - 23 Nov 2010 :  02:39:20  Show Profile  Visit uaintjak's Homepage Send uaintjak a Private Message
Less a message for the illustrious Ed, but I wanted to be sure THO saw it...in the General Forgotten Realms lore forum, I asked a question about the legendary Knights of Myth Drannor, and was hoping you could shed some light on some of the lesser members. Not sure if it's appropriate to ask in this thread or not.
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The Sage
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Posted - 23 Nov 2010 :  02:49:18  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by uaintjak

Less a message for the illustrious Ed, but I wanted to be sure THO saw it...in the General Forgotten Realms lore forum, I asked a question about the legendary Knights of Myth Drannor, and was hoping you could shed some light on some of the lesser members. Not sure if it's appropriate to ask in this thread or not.

Of course it's appropriate, uaintjak. Feel free to add your query to Ed's own scroll.

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Ayrik
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Posted - 23 Nov 2010 :  10:58:45  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message
uaintjak's questions asked in his The Knights of Myth Drannor scroll. Too lengthy to repeat here, though I'm a little interested in the answers myself.

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 23 Nov 2010 :  18:59:55  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all. Herewith, a "quick preliminary answer" re. those Knights of Myth Drannor questions. These are my paraphrases of Ed's answers to me.
"In the actual playing of Ed's group, is what happened in the novels (essentially) the same as how it played out in the gaming sessions?"
No, doing even a short'n'simple version of the play sessions would have taken about twenty novels. However, the FATES of Agannor and Bey and Martess were essentially the same (as you put it: "Agannor and Bey betrayed the group and were slain, and that Martess was killed as well.")
"However, I've also read that Martess was originally also an apprentice of Hezom (the lord of Espar and Jhessail's teacher)."
Ed will say more about this when he has the time.
"I'm curious if anyone knows the "true" story behind these characters."
Ed does; they were all NPCs played fleetingly (for the balance of a play session) by players only when their own PCs were incapacitated. We'll have to see how much he shares . . .

"Aumark Lithyl. What's his deal? When and how did he join? Is he a fighter? Cavalier? What? He was apparently heir to the throne of Ruathym, but that's all I know of him. Details!"
Aumark was a (2nd ed, Unearthed Arcana) cavalier, as was Mourngrym Amcathra. He was heir to the throne, sent away from home to keep him alive during the brief "war" between Ruathym, Luskan, and other shady interests. He left the Knights when his father was slain, to claim the throne ("High Axe") and lead his country. He was an Ed NPC, not a PC.

"Eressea Ambergyles. I've heard on these boards that she was a Knight (or at least, she adventured with them) though she was never mentioned as such in any of the published material. Are there other members of the Knights that we don't know about? Luvon Greencloak? Alok Silverspear? Inquiring minds want to know."
Eressea was a priestess who came to Shadowdale to found a temple, after the Knights were firmly in control of it. She adventured with the Knights, was invited to join them, and accepted. Her fate is NDA, and she was an Ed NPC. Yes, there are almost a dozen other Knights (some of whom didn't last long at all) that scribes familiar with the published realms don't know about. No, Luvon and Alok were never Knights, but they were allies and friends of the Knights.

So there you have it.
Patience, Chosen of Asmodeus. Ed has family visiting and has just written three short stories in three days, but he WILL get back to me with some lore replies for scribes, and hopefully yours will be amongst them. No promises, mind.
love to all,
THO

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Mr_Miscellany
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Posted - 23 Nov 2010 :  23:30:55  Show Profile Send Mr_Miscellany a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

IIRC, Ed named several families that fit that bill, and even went into some detail about one of them (I remember something about 'evil uncles', and two not-so-nice girls). Very good, detailed material - real 'old school' FR.
Aye, thank you Markus.

I've found a few mentions in the "Looking for all about Cormyr" scroll. I'll happily take that, if it'll help Ed move on to other longer-waiting queries.

But I won't say no to something new, either.
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Ayrik
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Posted - 24 Nov 2010 :  02:30:25  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message
Thank you THO! I'd offer you a rose but entirely lack any such emoticons.

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 24 Nov 2010 :  03:31:55  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message
@>--,--


One way to send a rose...

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Sandstorm
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Posted - 24 Nov 2010 :  04:05:44  Show Profile  Visit Sandstorm's Homepage  Click to see Sandstorm's MSN Messenger address Send Sandstorm a Private Message
Ashe you're so charming ;)
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uaintjak
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Posted - 24 Nov 2010 :  13:53:10  Show Profile  Visit uaintjak's Homepage Send uaintjak a Private Message
Thanks Lady HO (oops) and please pass along my thanks to the Great Sage himself, for the Knights answers. I'm looking forward to hearing more about Martess when Ed has more time.

Were there any Knights (apart from Merith Strongbow and Lanseril Snowmantle) who weren't human?
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Brimstone
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quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart

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One way to send a rose...


Show off...





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Alisttair
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Posted - 25 Nov 2010 :  13:01:45  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage  Click to see Alisttair's MSN Messenger address Send Alisttair a Private Message
here is a question I have, not sure if the answer already exists elsewhere:

Does the lychee fruit exist in the realms? I'd imagine in the eastern Kara-Tur area, and if so, is it imported west?

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 25 Nov 2010 :  18:59:38  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi, Alisttair, it definitely does. I know this from memories of play, but can't recall what Ed has said publuicly in the past. Sage? Wooly? Have we covered lychees in these Questions for Eddie threads?
love,
THO
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Sandstorm
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Posted - 25 Nov 2010 :  19:26:52  Show Profile  Visit Sandstorm's Homepage  Click to see Sandstorm's MSN Messenger address Send Sandstorm a Private Message
Lychee has a horrible extract. Not sure why you'd want it in the realms :P Also, if you guys have already covered Lychees... what haven't you covered? haha!
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