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Bladewind
Master of Realmslore

Netherlands
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Posted - 06 Oct 2010 :  19:15:04  Show Profile Send Bladewind a Private Message
I think you forgot the [evillaugh] Bwahahahaha! [/evillaugh]

I used Thayd's vestige for my Chessenta campaign's BBEG. His motivations were truly twisted by spending several ages in the Far Realm. Awesome I guessed right about his state, as a DM I love possesive "sentiences".

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Zireael
Master of Realmslore

Poland
1190 Posts

Posted - 06 Oct 2010 :  20:00:09  Show Profile  Visit Zireael's Homepage Send Zireael a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi again, all.
Thauramarth, Thayd survived as an undead sentience (perhaps unique; Ed hasn't said) that could possess living bodies (mammals of all sorts), but "burned them out" rapidly (a matter of two tendays at most). He clung to the company of his lieutenants . . . but eventually vanished, either destroyed by one of them or "lost" when a body burned out "under him" when he couldn't reach another to attack it...or for some other reason or cause, that PERHAPS has him lurking to this day, awaiting a chance to rise again...

So saith Ed, paraphrased by me.
love,
THO



"Eventually vanished"... When? 14th century DR? 13th century DR? I don't need an exact date, just an approximation would be nice...

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Markustay
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Posted - 07 Oct 2010 :  00:04:40  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
So the next time the party comes across the desiccated body of some poor animal in the middle of nowhere, miles from any living thing or settlement... LOOK OUT.

As for Zhentish Entertainment, there is a fairly enlightening scene in Prince of Lies wherein a street-show is being performed. There are some details in the scene that could prove very useful in a game session (like the fact that all performances MUST be approved by officials first, which includes censoring content).

And now, a question. Not just for Ed, but all authors who care to give their own answer. I am posting it here because I would like to hear Ed's answer the most, since he literally 'wrote the book' on FR, but everyone who has been published within a D&D/shared-world setting is welcome and encouraged to provide their own.

Do you find the nature of a D&D setting - the 'everythingness' of it all - hand-tying in anyway while creating your fiction?

In other words, the Realms is an 'everything but the kitchen sink' setting. For a DM, thats great, because anything we think of we can make work somehow, but does that very 'everythingness' interfere with plots?

For instance, if you write a murder-mystery in FR, why doesn't someone just talk to the dead guy? Or his dog. Or even an inanimate object. Why doesn't a Mage just cast a divination spell to find the murder weapon, or the murderer himself? Or better yet, cast a spell to see how the event unfolded?

Why should a dead king stay dead? Or anyone for that matter? Why bother with archaelogy, when you can just ask an Elf what Netheril was like, or ask some Lich how things were in Imaskar. Why bother with metalurgy when you have dwarves? Why bother with culture when you have Elves? Why do humans bother doing anything? Its all been invented and discovered for them.

Have a problem getting an item from a shipwreck? Just hire a merman, or a sea-Elf. Have a fire? Cast a water spell. Need to do reconnaissance, send your wizard's eye out, or use a crystal ball, or hire a few Aarakokra or some other flyers.

In other words, there is so MUCH in a world like FR (literally HUNDREDS of intelligent races, all with unique abilities), and so many different ways to accomplish the same things, how do you address that problem? Without thousands of readers asking "why didn't the characters just do this?"

I guess what I am saying is, in a shared-world setting as involved and detailed as one like FR, you CAN'T control all the variables like you can in a world you hand-tailored to your stories. You can't place built-in barriers and weaknesses into the story to achieve balance, because all of that is already defined by the setting.

It just seems to me, that if I were to write a story in such a setting, I couldn't possibly work-out the trillions of variables that a super-setting engenders. A setting with specific lore tailored to enhance the story seems to be the much easier route to go.

Bottom line is, is there such a thing as 'too much'? Were the original Realms designed to incorporate everything D&D threw at it? Or was the setting smaller in scope, and therefore easier to manage? Did Ed go out of his way to make everything core work, or did he hand-pick the lore and monsters he wanted in his setting?

EDIT: I realize I just asked a second, yet related, question - sorry. Still, I would be interested to know if Ed has found it significantly harder to write his stories in the WotC Realms then it was when they were still his.

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 07 Oct 2010 :  01:52:18  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Great questions, Markustay. Off to Ed your post goes.
His answer is what you're looking for, of course, but Ed has answered this sort of query many times before, at GenCon and elsewhere, so I can give an indication of what his answer will be, with a quote from an e-mail he sent to a awed-by-the-Realms designer coming on staff long ago (I have it because it got saved by someone at TSR and resent to others, as calming and guiding advice):

The Realms is incredibly detailed and complex, yes, but don't let it scare you. After all, our real world is WAY more detailed, complex, varied, and uncontrolled than the Realms, but none of us think twice about writing a ghost story, murder mystery, romance, or James Bond-style thriller set in the real world. Just make sure to run major plot ideas, NPCs, and places past me or the "old Realms hands" staffers, to let us shoot holes in them before the Realms fans do. :} We'll tell you where the skeletons are buried...or AREN'T buried, heh-heh.

So saith Ed. Decades ago.
Of course, he'll have more to say by now.
love,
THO
P.S. Realms fans in Toronto, Ontario, Canada: Bob Salvatore is signing GAUNTLGRYM at the World's Biggest Bookstore on Edward Street (just north of Yonge & Dundas) at 7pm tomorrow (Thursday, October 7th), and Ed may or may not be on hand for the start of the event . . .
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Ionik Knight
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Posted - 07 Oct 2010 :  01:58:56  Show Profile  Visit Ionik Knight's Homepage Send Ionik Knight a Private Message
Seems like most of the kitchen sink problems with writing fiction in the FR can be avoided through pacing and setting. For instance if you need to know how that corpse died in the next five minutes, you don't have time to run off and find someone who can cast Speak with Dead. And if the bulk of your tale takes place in the wilderness or dungeon depths you are not likely to have resources outside of your companions to fall back on.

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Dracons
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Posted - 07 Oct 2010 :  04:51:10  Show Profile  Visit Dracons's Homepage  Send Dracons a Yahoo! Message Send Dracons a Private Message
Simple question:

What's with all the thousands of NDA's?

There are thousands of mysteries, and when we ask, we get told nope, we can't tell you, ha ha.

Will they ever be revealed? Unlikely.

Ed Greenwood isn't exactly young, and he will die of age sometime. Then all those mysteriies answers will be losted.

Why must they exist? It never made sense to me, other then just money of course.

Does Ed even care? Or does he think it's just hilarious to keep so much from fans?

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 07 Oct 2010 :  05:17:43  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dracons

Simple question:

What's with all the thousands of NDA's?

There are thousands of mysteries, and when we ask, we get told nope, we can't tell you, ha ha.

Will they ever be revealed? Unlikely.

Ed Greenwood isn't exactly young, and he will die of age sometime. Then all those mysteriies answers will be losted.

Why must they exist? It never made sense to me, other then just money of course.

Does Ed even care? Or does he think it's just hilarious to keep so much from fans?



Okay, do you honestly think Ed would willingly hold back a single scrap of lore that people wanted to know? If so, you've badly misread him.

NDAs are imposed by companies, for a variety of reasons. As we've seen with TSR/WotC, this reason is often future plans/storylines. These plans often get changed, delayed, or dropped. Now, at that point, it would indeed be reasonable to drop the NDA. But there are reasons not to: leaving it in place means that those plans can be revisited or revised, or revived at a later date. And, as has been pointed out more than once, leaving an NDA in place is totally free. Lifting an NDA involves paperwork and contacting all the relevant parties and tossing some funding at the lawyers that make these things binding -- and all of that is for no return.

So WotC, and TSR before them, lose nothing by leaving an NDA in place. No one likes it, but that's the reality we have to deal with.

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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 07 Oct 2010 :  05:21:14  Show Profile  Visit Dalor Darden's Homepage Send Dalor Darden a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dracons

Simple question:

What's with all the thousands of NDA's?

There are thousands of mysteries, and when we ask, we get told nope, we can't tell you, ha ha.

Will they ever be revealed? Unlikely.

Ed Greenwood isn't exactly young, and he will die of age sometime. Then all those mysteriies answers will be losted.

Why must they exist? It never made sense to me, other then just money of course.

Does Ed even care? Or does he think it's just hilarious to keep so much from fans?





Legal Agreement called "Non-Disclosure Agreement"...

Breech of which could cost his small estate its entire net worth.

Ed Greenwood, I'm SURE, and I'd bet my last nickel on it, would LOVE to tell everything and all about the Forgotten Realms...just as any creator would. What good is creating something wonderful if you aren't allowed to share it!

The thing is: it is GOOD to not know everything...especially if you are gaming in the world.

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Dennis
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quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

quote:
Originally posted by Dracons

Simple question:

What's with all the thousands of NDA's?

There are thousands of mysteries, and when we ask, we get told nope, we can't tell you, ha ha.

Will they ever be revealed? Unlikely.

Ed Greenwood isn't exactly young, and he will die of age sometime. Then all those mysteriies answers will be losted.

Why must they exist? It never made sense to me, other then just money of course.

Does Ed even care? Or does he think it's just hilarious to keep so much from fans?





Legal Agreement called "Non-Disclosure Agreement"...

Breech of which could cost his small estate its entire net worth.

Ed Greenwood, I'm SURE, and I'd bet my last nickel on it, would LOVE to tell everything and all about the Forgotten Realms...just as any creator would. What good is creating something wonderful if you aren't allowed to share it!

The thing is: it is GOOD to not know everything...especially if you are gaming in the world.



Indeed. Dracons, might as well bring your rant to WotC. I think they added Rant, for The Dead and The Living Hearken! section in their forum.

Every beginning has an end.

Edited by - Dennis on 07 Oct 2010 06:03:30
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Dracons
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Posted - 07 Oct 2010 :  06:04:55  Show Profile  Visit Dracons's Homepage  Send Dracons a Yahoo! Message Send Dracons a Private Message
They won't do a damn thing. They don't give two craps about their customers.

I also don't see Ed exactly doing anything to get them released.

They're plenty of people that do know the answers. So why can't others?

It's deeply annoying that we will never know the true answers for so many things. Sure, as a DM we can make it whatever we want, but I'll always know what I think it is, is not the answer. Hell, they're mysteries that are decades old, and they're not any closer to being answered now then we were in the beginning. It won't be answer in our life time. What's worst, that if wizards closes, or the license for Dungeons and Dragons doesn't get sold or bought, then the answers will NEVER be told.

And if Ed, as much as I love him and his great work, doesn't even care or try, then what's the point of having them? Why did he agree to such a stupid deal of giving up mysteries and never telling us?

Couldn't we all sign the NDA's and be done with it? Or is it super duper limited to two people a decade??

Why can't someone just write up the answers to NDA's, and send them off through the internet using proxies and different areas, so that no-one could track who did it? They couldn't be sued or fired for that as wizards couldn't prove who did it.

Yeah, it's illegal. But it's a stupid law. It's a game world of fans, not a murder mystery.

If Ed needs money to do it, I'm more then willing to bet my soul, that thousands of fans will be willing to donate alot of money.

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The Sage
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Posted - 07 Oct 2010 :  06:37:08  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Dracons

Simple question:

What's with all the thousands of NDA's?

There are thousands of mysteries, and when we ask, we get told nope, we can't tell you, ha ha.

Will they ever be revealed? Unlikely.

Ed Greenwood isn't exactly young, and he will die of age sometime. Then all those mysteriies answers will be losted.

Why must they exist? It never made sense to me, other then just money of course.

Does Ed even care? Or does he think it's just hilarious to keep so much from fans?



Okay, do you honestly think Ed would willingly hold back a single scrap of lore that people wanted to know? If so, you've badly misread him.

NDAs are imposed by companies, for a variety of reasons. As we've seen with TSR/WotC, this reason is often future plans/storylines. These plans often get changed, delayed, or dropped. Now, at that point, it would indeed be reasonable to drop the NDA. But there are reasons not to: leaving it in place means that those plans can be revisited or revised, or revived at a later date. And, as has been pointed out more than once, leaving an NDA in place is totally free. Lifting an NDA involves paperwork and contacting all the relevant parties and tossing some funding at the lawyers that make these things binding -- and all of that is for no return.

So WotC, and TSR before them, lose nothing by leaving an NDA in place. No one likes it, but that's the reality we have to deal with.

Indeed.

And just as a friendly Moderator warning... I really don't think we need to rally and rive about this sort of thing. Ed's discussed what little he can about how NDA's and his future Realmslore work relate to each other. And that should be the end of it.

Dracons, I appreciate your concern in this matter, but I'd prefer that such matters be left to official legal types. We're hardly in a position to justify how and why such NDA-related issues work the way they do with respect to Ed and his future developments. Let's look to the lore instead, eh?

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Dracons
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Posted - 07 Oct 2010 :  06:41:13  Show Profile  Visit Dracons's Homepage  Send Dracons a Yahoo! Message Send Dracons a Private Message
I know Sage. But the NDA is holding back lore. That's why I'm angry at it. Not just bits and pieces, but alot, and it appears that it will never be released. Why do they add more lore, adding more mysteries, and never solving what is already a mystery?

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The Sage
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Posted - 07 Oct 2010 :  06:44:21  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dracons

I know Sage. But the NDA is holding back lore. That's why I'm angry at it. Not just bits and pieces, but alot, and it appears that it will never be released. Why do they add more lore, adding more mysteries, and never solving what is already a mystery?

I'm not sure we'll ever really know.

For the most part, I take comfort in the fact that if and when Ed knows what he can do with such lore, he'll present it here when any lingering legalities have been satisfied.

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George Krashos
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quote:
Originally posted by Dracons

I know Sage. But the NDA is holding back lore. That's why I'm angry at it. Not just bits and pieces, but alot, and it appears that it will never be released. Why do they add more lore, adding more mysteries, and never solving what is already a mystery?



You proceed from a significant misconception which is that Ed and WotC are seeking to deny FR fans realmslore as some cruel and unusual punishment and enjoying themselves greatly while doing so. Nothing can be further from the truth.

As I've previously posted on this subject, Ed is clearly the "Keeper of NDAs", recalling what lore and information he has passed onto TSR/WotC for pay and whether they have used it or not. The fact that in many cases TSR/WotC have not seen fit to package up that lore into a product for the fans is a cause for regret but does not mean that Ed has to abandon his personal and professional standards and moral/legal/ethical obligations by deciding to ignore the wishes of WotC in this matter by passing on that information without their consent.

Of course, you might consider actually making an attempt to create realmslore of your own on these "mysterious" topics you mention, perhaps through a DDI submission. Who knows, your version might well be the one that WotC accepts as 'official' and you will have had a hand in removing an NDA, such as it is. Channel your frustration, don't expect everything to be handed to you on a lore-laden silver platter and write/create/post/muse on the Realms. You'll be happier for it and will also provide a positive benefit to the FR community at large.

As someone who's come up with bits of realmslore from time to time over the years, I can tell you there is no better feeling than creating realmslore to the approbation of your FR peers. Try it. It's fun.

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Snowblood
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I agree with you Krash...100%.....

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Deathspawned
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As much as i hate to continue a "rant" topic i feel the need to say that if wizards went under and no one "bought out the lisence" that i seem to remember that the realms would go back to Ed(i would ALMOST think this a good thing)and it would be his again(if im wrong please correct me).Also if Ed had not agreed to some sort of terms with the companies he sold the realms to then NONE of us would now have anything to complain about as the realms would not exist as they are and might still be just Ed's personal playground.Personally i THANK Ed for sharing any of his realm with all of us as without it i would have to find other less satisfying worlds to enjoy.The sheer amount of lore this setting has is stagering compared to most i have seen and has brought to life a world unlike most in an amazing way that continues to blow me away.To end THANK YOU ED FOR THE REALMS and please continue with all the awsome work.

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Markustay
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Thanks for the quickie, THO.

Awaiting for Ed's 'full monty' answer.

And Dracons... <insert head-shaking smiley>

Krash (and others) have already provided an answer, but I feel a need to chime-in (sorry). You seem to think someone is spitefully keeping something from you, which is not at-all what is going on. Its easy to cast stones at WotC these days, but most of these NDA's go back to TSR, and are in-place to keep the setting coherent, not to hurt the fans in anyway.

Besides, if we knew all there was to know, what fun would these forums be?

Or the Realms, for that matter..... mysteries inspire imagination.

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Edited by - Markustay on 07 Oct 2010 17:09:26
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Lord of Bones
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I have a new question, and one that may be slightly controversial.

I've recently been studying the civil conflicts in many African countries, and the use of child soldiers is something that is becoming increasingly prevalent. Or at least, it's becoming increasingly prevalent before the western news teams. Child soldiers have been a part of history for centuries, as conscripting a soldier as a child is almost a sure way of indoctrinating the soldier to fanatically follow the beliefs of the army.

My question though, is whether such practices are carried out in any parts of the Realms. Cormyr may well have its squires, and many young men and women go to join armies, but are there any nations that will forcibly conscript children, brainwash them, and then send them to fight their enemies? Thay and the Zhents seem likely for this, but even they seem to have some social mores that may preclude such activities.

Also, if it's very uncommon among human nations in the Realms, do any monstrous nations do this? We know the drow raise soldiers from birth, and no doubt so do orcs, but how about some of the smaller monstrous races?

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Ionik Knight
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quote:
Originally posted by Lord of Bones

I have a new question, and one that may be slightly controversial.

I've recently been studying the civil conflicts in many African countries, and the use of child soldiers is something that is becoming increasingly prevalent. Or at least, it's becoming increasingly prevalent before the western news teams. Child soldiers have been a part of history for centuries, as conscripting a soldier as a child is almost a sure way of indoctrinating the soldier to fanatically follow the beliefs of the army.

My question though, is whether such practices are carried out in any parts of the Realms. Cormyr may well have its squires, and many young men and women go to join armies, but are there any nations that will forcibly conscript children, brainwash them, and then send them to fight their enemies? Thay and the Zhents seem likely for this, but even they seem to have some social mores that may preclude such activities.

Also, if it's very uncommon among human nations in the Realms, do any monstrous nations do this? We know the drow raise soldiers from birth, and no doubt so do orcs, but how about some of the smaller monstrous races?

Matthew


Lots of races have a warrior culture much the same as the orcs. Pretty much any of the barbarian tribes and most of the aggressive humanoid races would be comparable to the orcs in this way. A closer relation to the child soldiers would need to start with a warlord or tyrant type in charge of an oppressed or destitute people. For this the Zhents and Unther (before the death of Gilgeam) seem like logical choices. Sounds like a good motif for an evil wizard/lich too. Catch/buy a bunch of orc/hobgoblin kids and raise them as your personal bodyguards.

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Apropos of NDA's having been mentioned, I'll continue with my obsession:
Symrustar Auglamyr. I know her fate is under NDA. However, I was also told that there is a good chance those NDA's might yet lift. My question, therefore, is whether we will learn of Symrustar's fate in the new Elmister series Ed is currently writing, or at least (if I can't get a definitive answer) if there is a good chance of that happening. I'm sorry if I seem obsessed, but waiting for Elminster Must Die is driving me crazy.
Also, another question: Can we get more lore on Caerthynna of the Swirling Stones? According to Mintiper's Chapbook, she was a female moon elf of Eaerlanni ancestry, noted creator of ioun stones, and one of six tertiary casters who participated in the raising of Myth Glaurach’s mythal. But I haven't found anything else.

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The Hooded One
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Hi again, all.
Menelvagor, re. this: "My question, therefore, is whether we will learn of Symrustar's fate in the new Elminster series Ed is currently writing, or at least (if I can't get a definitive answer) if there is a good chance of that happening. I'm sorry if I seem obsessed, but waiting for Elminster Must Die is driving me crazy."

Sigh. Your question (and others like it) is EXACTLY what any author currently writing for Wizards is not allowed to answer without editorial approval, which will almost always be denied for matters of this sort.
However, I will pass on as far as Ed hinted to me, when I contacted him last night (just after saying goodnight to Bob Salvatore, Bob's wife, and the Random House folks, outside the World's Biggest Bookstore in downtown Toronto, and heading back to his car to begin the long drive home):


I can't recall having written anything much about Symrustar for publication recently.
I've known what I think happened to her in her later life for quite a while now, but publishing lore about such matters hasn't been solely "up to me" for about twenty-five years now.
Please tell him sorry that I can't be clearer - - oh, and please Dracons that I'd LOVE to tell all, about EVERYTHING to do with the Realms, but publishing just doesn't work that way unless I happened to be an infinitely-rich publisher with rights to publish the Realms. Which I'm not, never have been, and would probably fail miserably at being. And without a publisher, the Realms would be known just to me, a handful of friends, and those gamers who sat down to play with me. My good friend George Krashos, a superb crafter of Realmslore, put it very well - - and if you don't feel comfortable crafting your own Realmslore, part of the game at Candlekeep is posing lore QUESTIONS adroitly enough that I can answer them without offending against NDAs. So, have at it!


There. So saith Ed. Who toddled happily off home to plunge back into writing a Realms novel and preparing for Canadian Thanksgiving.
Which for most of us means: family gathering and WAY too much to eat.
Turkey often features prominently, and there tends to be sports on television and much laughter, gossip, and lying around. Plus, in MY house, gaming.
love to all,
THO
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createvmind
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Posted - 08 Oct 2010 :  17:30:18  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
Is a god always omnipotent in regards to their portfolio even if a god from another plane is considerably more powerful for whatever reason? Mystra had placed an edict on spell levels and time travel, could another deity of magic bypass these barriers via a vessel or artifact to overwhelm these bans she has or is she the final say regardless of power of other deity?

Would Ao intervene or let things play out if "balance" wasn't overly upset by this?

Edited by - createvmind on 08 Oct 2010 17:32:04
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Rhewtani
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Did someone ever correctly guess the author of Filfaeril: Bound and Willing? (I think that was the title). And if not ... has anyone guessed Azoun IV?
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althen artren
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And just to add fuel to the fire,
the Man is a very sly one. I believe that Ed
has a plan to get things revealed when he passes on.
(sorry to be morbid) Just my impression from
his words over the years. Take it as u will.
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Kentinal
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Side discussions do not belong in this scroll. It also needs another reset. At least in my opinion concerning the side discussions.

"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
"Judgement" copyright 2003 by Elizabeth Moon
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