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Thauramarth
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Posted - 07 Sep 2010 :  23:15:27  Show Profile Send Thauramarth a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

This is related to our earlier discussion about 'deeper layers' - was Azoun 'encouraged' to be a womanizer? And if so, are all Obarskyrs?

Meh. Who needs encouragement?
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

So that the War Wizards have a 'fail-safe' mechanism, in case they get another imbecile or maniac on the throne. No true claimants, that would 'muddy the succession', but rather just enough 'folk of the blood' about, just in case....


I would think that it's probably not the War Wizards as an organisation, but rather Vangerdahast. Now, if I recall correctly, Vangy has ways of keeping the Royals' fertility under control (or, if he does not dare intervene directly on the Royals, he probably has less scruples when it comes to the objects of their affection). That would mean that, if he did not actively encourage Azoun, at the very least he tolerated it, which might be the same thing.

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Kajehase
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Posted - 07 Sep 2010 :  23:59:06  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message
Apologies if this question seem a bit ...trivial.

Is there anywhere (or anywhen) in the Realms where short skirts (ending above the knee) have been in fashion (for either sex)?

Based on the incantatrix illustration in the PGtF and an old Dragon article illo we know they exist, but at least one of those is of an adventurer, and we all know they don't necessarily care about conventions, and the other is of a vampire, and so doesn't count either.

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Jakk
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Canada
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Posted - 08 Sep 2010 :  01:03:37  Show Profile Send Jakk a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Something that just popped into my head today, strangely while thinking about a completely unrelated topic (and thread) -

What I was thinking about was 'Noble Azoun', or rather, how he is the first leader that comes to mind when one pictures 'True Nobility' in the Realms. And yet... he had his faults...

This is related to our earlier discussion about 'deeper layers' - was Azoun 'encouraged' to be a womanizer? And if so, are all Obarskyrs?

So that the War Wizards have a 'fail-safe' mechanism, in case they get another imbecile or maniac on the throne. No true claimants, that would 'muddy the succession', but rather just enough 'folk of the blood' about, just in case....



I like this theory; it's one I thought of a while back and just decided to "go with" so I never really thought to ask regarding its accuracy; Ed, consider Mark's question/speculation seconded.

By way of that discussion about 'deeper layers'... do you have any more hypotheses for us, Mark? I'm now (as of last night) reading Elminster Must Die (my local library finally got a copy, but both of its copies of A Feast For Crows have gone AWOL, so I need to find another one somewhere), and I have tomorrow off work, so I'll likely have some further thoughts on the Elminster-Cormyr connection in a few days.

One more question (or seconding of a recent question) for you, Ed... someone (I don't recall who, sorry) recently asked about wildlife and Earth-Toril portals in the context of common and Toril-only wildlife. I'm interested in some specifics on Toril-only species, particularly those predatory and scavenger avian varieties that were mentioned (and other animals of the same ecological niche).

Many thanks again, Ed and THO, for everything!

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 08 Sep 2010 :  01:57:11  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
Kajehase, there are no trivial questions. (Or they all are, ultimately.) Yes, there are definitely above-the-knee fashions in various locales in the Realms (bear in mind that much published Realmslore has concerned colder northerly regions, where more covering would tend to be favoured), but I'll have to get Ed to give you specifics.

Markustay, you are ON to something, and Thauramarth is correct: Azoun WAS encouraged to be a womanizer, by Vangey (not that other War Wizards haven't toyed with the idea regarding other Obarskyrs, in the past [[yes, this directly according to Ed, not me speculating]]), in the wake of their son's (firstborn's) death, as a way of bringing some male "blood offspring" into being, well removed in strength of throne-claim from Azoun and Fee's legitimate children, but "in case" (for one thing, to have "another string to the bow" if the daughters turned out to be weak of character, and unscrupulous nobles thought of marrying them to a dominating male).
Vangey came to see this as less necessary when the daughters turned out to be strong, and Alusair almost "another Azoun" with her own way of bonding with and inculcating loyalty in the next generation of male nobles.
Then, later, Vangey saw it as more necessary again, after - - in the scene in CORMYR: A NOVEL - - the "disaster" was discovered in the royal vault. It should be noted that this was a tendency in Azoun that Vangey, as the young Azoun's tutor and companion (again, see CORMYR: A NOVEL) had become well aware of, not something Vangey had to force or magically influence Azoun into.
There are of course obvious drawbacks to Azoun womanizing with nobility (personal hatreds of him on the part of some noble husbands), but Vangey weighed two things: the personal popularity of Azoun among many male nobles (and commoners), both as a war leader and ruler, and as a likeable guy - - and the fact that the Crown's relationship with certain nobles couldn't get any worse; they are already behaving like active, if sly rather than open, traitors, so . . .
And of course this cut both ways: there were families who sought to increase their prestige, or chances at getting Court positions or contracts, or just their profile locally or among War Wizards or the Purple Dragons or at Court, by "being close with the King" and ending up with "a get of Azoun's" in their families. There were also some women who wanted this on their own, family notwithstanding. Plus the "old battle companions" of Azoun, like Tessaril Winter, whom he sought out as friends and comforting bedmates rather than as mothers for his children (but whom he'd be delighted that they were having his children IF they wanted to).
This happens to be something Ed and I (and a few others) have discussed extensively, if privately, down the years, so what I say here isn't me inventing, it's Ed's take on this. There are some other "open, waiting secrets" of the Realms like this that we don't volunteer - - but we WILL confirm, if a scribe "tumbles to them."
Wheee!
love to all,
THO
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 08 Sep 2010 :  02:00:41  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
One postscript, upon reflection: Azoun was/is no dunderhead or easily-manipulated dupe, and neither is Filfaeril. It's important not to overemphasize "Vangey as Machiavelli" here, and to avoid seeing Azoun or his queen as weak, enspelled, or oblivious. They, too, play the game of "balancing bastards and heirs" off against each other, for the good of the realm (i.e. to keep the throne strong and the Obarskyr bloodlines very much in existence, but also to prevent civil war/their own assassinations/overmuch feuding amongst the nobles).
Right. My work here is done. For a few breaths.
More lore soon,
love to all,
THO
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Kajehase
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Posted - 08 Sep 2010 :  04:55:37  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi again, all.
Kajehase, there are no trivial questions. (Or they all are, ultimately.) Yes, there are definitely above-the-knee fashions in various locales in the Realms (bear in mind that much published Realmslore has concerned colder northerly regions, where more covering would tend to be favoured), but I'll have to get Ed to give you specifics.


Waits expectantly (but patiently).


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Dennis
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Posted - 08 Sep 2010 :  12:50:46  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message

To Ed,

I was really surprised when I read the incestuous scenes in Arch Wizard. I'm guessing incest happens in the Realms as well. But was it ever shown in FR novels?


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Bakra
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Posted - 08 Sep 2010 :  13:46:49  Show Profile Send Bakra a Private Message
I apologize if this has been answered before at the ‘keep. Does Cormyr fulfill requests for a military funeral for an eligible non-noble veteran? If the answer is yes, can you describe it? And I will ask this for the Sage, what is their version of “Taps” and does the song have any words?

I hope Candlekeep continues to be the friendly forum of fellow Realms-lovers that it has always been, as we all go through this together. If you don’t want to move to the “new” Realms, that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with either you or the “old” Realms. Goodness knows Candlekeep, and the hearts of its scribes, are both big enough to accommodate both. If we want them to be.
(Strikes dramatic pose, raises sword to gleam in the sunset, and hopes breeches won’t fall down.)
Enough for now. The Realms lives! I have spoken! Ale and light wines half price, served by a smiling Storm Silverhand fetchingly clad in thigh-high boots and naught else! Ahem . .
So saith Ed. <snip>
love to all,
THO
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Jakk
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Canada
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Posted - 08 Sep 2010 :  15:07:19  Show Profile Send Jakk a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

<chop>...There are some other "open, waiting secrets" of the Realms like this that we don't volunteer - - but we WILL confirm, if a scribe "tumbles to them."
Wheee!
love to all,
THO



I dearly wish I had all of my pre-3E Realms publications with me... I'll assume that the point regarding the still-living Chosen of Mystryl mentioned a while back is one of those "open secrets" (and I have a theory related to that one, inspired by a post by The Red Walker; I may PM you with this, milady, to see if I'm on the right track here), as is Elminster's connection to Cormyr recently speculated upon by Markustay (and I'm still puzzling that one out, too, but I have no further insight as yet).

I did have a question, but I've decided to hang on to it until I finish reading Elminster Must Die... that shouldn't be too long now... and if I still have the question at that point, then I'll ask it (possibly by PM, if I can't find a way to ask that isn't a spoiler and yet is still intelligible to those "in the know").

Edit: 1500th post!

Many thanks!

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If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.

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Markustay
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Posted - 09 Sep 2010 :  00:34:39  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
Okay, I seem to be on a roll, so let me try another -

I'm WELL aware of how clever Filfaeril is - Vangerdehast, an Archmage (and therefore brilliant), was afraid to play her in chess.

I have several theories about her - I already assume she is a high-up Harper agent, given her contacts and private portal - but I will take this a step further...

Knowing Ed is an avid reader, I'm sure he has fully digested Frank Herbert's Dune novels (at least, the first amazing trilogy), so I am wondering... is Filfaeril's character in any way inspired by Paul Atreides mother? (I think you may know what I am getting at - this could mean several different things) This may relate back to some of those 'breeding programs' Mystra's Chosen and Magister's were occasionally involved in.

Also, don't know if anyone ever asked this before - probably and probably NDA - but I'll give it a shot. Has Elminster himself ever had children? I'm NOT talking about him being a father....

And while I am at it, was the 'Elmara period' the only time he spent a prolonged period as a female?

Also, the Elminster questions are unrelated to the Filfaeril question..... AFAIK.

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Edited by - Markustay on 09 Sep 2010 01:08:42
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Ionik Knight
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Posted - 09 Sep 2010 :  01:02:31  Show Profile  Visit Ionik Knight's Homepage Send Ionik Knight a Private Message
Elminster in labor...I shudder to think of it..or even worse, nursing.

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 09 Sep 2010 :  01:13:45  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
Markustay, re. your Filfaeril questions, and these: "Also, don't know if anyone ever asked this before - probably and probably NDA - but I'll give it a shot. Has Elminster himself ever had children? I'm NOT talking about him being a father....
And while I am at it, was the 'Elmara period' the only time he spent a prolonged period as a female?"
Ed replies:


Nothing about Filfaeril is inspired by any of Frank's Dune books, because Fee was detailed and determined in my notes before I got to read the first book (it was in my father's HUGE "to read" pile, and in those days, after I'd sprung some quite adult novels on him from his collection and asked him eagerly if there were sequels, he'd decided to "vet" my borrowings from his collection. He didn't get to DUNE until 1966, when it won the first Nebula and thus got drawn to his attention; he fished it out of the pile, read it, decided it was okay for my tender brain, and handed it on to me. I was seven years old at the time, and six when DUNE came out, remember. :}
I can say that Fee works with the Harpers, sometimes deliberately against Vangerdahast, but her relationship to Those Who Harp (Dove and Storm are involved, remember) is a little more complicated than "she's a Harper agent." I have to tread carefully here because of NDAs, so I think I'll leave it at that for now. Other than to say you're on to something, and Fee is, yes, far deeper than she's been depicted in canon Realmslore thus far.
As for the Elminster questions: VERY MUCH NDA. Hint cough hint. The answer to the second one really depends on your definition of "prolonged."


So saith Ed. Hinting like mad, I see . . .
love,
THO

Sorry for the sporadic nature of this message; I'm in a vehicle, and keep losing Net access as we move (NO, I'm not driving, safety-minded scribes!).

Edited by - The Hooded One on 09 Sep 2010 01:28:53
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Markustay
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Posted - 09 Sep 2010 :  01:19:02  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
Ahhh, Okay... should have thought if that.

However, are there certain similarities, though? You know... pertaining to her being chosen for her role, and later* actually falling in love with Azoun?

I'm getting a very 'more then she seems' vibe from her.


*And by 'later', it could be the moment she laid eyes on him... but their meeting was pre-arranged.

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 09 Sep 2010 :  01:30:18  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
That vibe is "right on," but I'm not sure about who arranged their er, breeding. I'll see if I can nudge Ed into saying something.
Purrr . . . nudge time . . . purr . . .

love,
THO
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Thauramarth
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Posted - 09 Sep 2010 :  14:21:14  Show Profile Send Thauramarth a Private Message
Ed and THO,

A question on Manshoon (which may, or may not be NDA'd). I was musing about the Manshoon Wars, and the fact that Manshoon had about fourty clones and/or stasis clones lying all around the place. Manny has become one of the prominent NPCs in the Realms, and as he has appeared in fiction, he came across as someone who regularly marched in to go toe-to-toe with his opponents personally (e.g., in Spellfire and Crown of Fire).

Was the idea of stasis clones part of Manshoon's pre-publication Realms setup? I.e., did he have a bit of a reckless streak, on the general assumption that he had fourty-odd backups lying around, or were the fourty clones (not a reference to Ali Baba's fourty thives, I guess) a mechanism that was created to allow for Manshoon's continued survival during a period when the depiction of the Zhentarim (including their boss) as the Keystone Cops of the Realms seemed to be de rigueur? I am asking, because I would have seen Manshoon more as a very capable schemer, who would only very rarely put himself in a position where he'd be liable to risk his own health, let alone his life.

Thankee.

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 09 Sep 2010 :  15:17:05  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Yes, the stasis clones were part of Ed's concept of Manshoon from the beginning (1967 or so).
I agree with you that Manshoon would seem to be more the calculating, careful, "lead from the rear" sort. However, Ed and I have talked about this (after events in Realmsplay in the "home" campaign), and he pointed out that part of keeping the wizards (not the priests) of the Zhentarim in line was showing that he could personally take down mighty foes when he had to...hence the toe-to-toe moments. His repeated problem has been underestimating those mighty foes.
love,
THO
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Jorkens
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Norway
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Posted - 09 Sep 2010 :  18:10:29  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi again, all. Back in May of this year (Page 42 of this thread) Jorkens asked, in part: “In Adjatha "the Drinker.": Nesker of Mulmaster, sorcerer king, ruled in the early years of the 1300's. Would it be possible to get some information on this ruler and the older Mulmaster rulers in general?”



Ed dropped me a note to say he’s still hunting (amid all of his other projects, of course) for his circa-1982 notes on this, but he has found a synopsis paragraph he wrote for a TSR designer around 1988, which reads in part:

. . . This merchant council was riven by corruption and feuding, and was easily overthrown (its members butchered) by the ruthless mercenary Aurbraunt, who’d recently settled in the city. Intending to enrich himself by providing armed escorts for mining caravans coming south to the Moonsea in return for a share of their takings, Aurbraunt became a bold warlord whose increasing reach angered other inhabitants of the region. However, before they could slay him, a visiting merchant, the soft-spoken but utterly ruthless Rurlyskam “the Calishite,” took care of that murder for them, taking over as ruler of Mulmaster for less than a season before he was magically controlled, and then destroyed, by the sorcerer Nesker, who proclaimed himself “king” of the city, and began a long and brutal rule by rounding up and slaughtering anyone within his reach who had any aptitude for the Art at all.


So saith Ed. Who will reveal more when he can.
love to all,
THO




Thank you very much both of you. Now I am even more curious about the city. But I am sorry to have sent Ed hunting into the dreaded Realmsian archives.

But this made me think about another question. Is there a cultural reason for the few hereditary rulers of the northern Realms or is it mostly a matter of taste from Ed? Even if there are a couple of families ruling and a couple of monarchies, it seems like the council (or short time tyrants) is the norm.
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Markustay
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Posted - 09 Sep 2010 :  22:01:22  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
If I may...

If some of the history of the Moonsea region is based on Ed's original - and I get a feeling that that particular area has stayed more 'pristine Ed' then most - then the original settlers in that area were all.... less then reputable, to put it mildly.

Those were the 'folk of the Black Sails', who fought alongside monstrous groups against other humans. This would have prompted a pirate or 'bandit-king' style culture throughout the Moonsea. Rulers of settlements and cultures based around that mindset are often determined by 'might makes right', and the 'strongest shall rule', which means the leader of any given tribe or settlement holds his post for as long as he can keep the sword-blade from his throat.

The children of such barabric and brutal leaders are rarely of the same caliber as their parents, simply because they grow-up in a protected environment, in most cases, and the minute 'Daddy' (or Mommy, as the case may be) isn't around anymore, the second-in-command (who is usually the second toughest) takes over, and will normally destroy any offspring of the former ruler.

And that is why it is so hard for hereditary rulers to stay in power in 'evil' societies.

Bottom line is, most of the 'old blood' of the Moonsea just aren't very nice people. They've had an influx of 'fresh blood' in recent years, but the 'old gaurd' makes sure to keep them down (the way Zhentil Keep and Mulmaster try to maintain control of their neighbors). Areas in which corruption is ripe, like the Moonsea area, always have a certain way of doing things, and do not like 'goodly types' interfering with their business. Its a warlord-mentality, and 'inheritance' is determined by a sword arm, not birth. Like that Necromunger dude said in that movie - "You keep what you kill."

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Kajehase
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Posted - 09 Sep 2010 :  22:09:33  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message
The northerners like their rulers to have come by their position "by cunning, a deep understanding of the human psyche, breathtaking diplomacy, a certain prowess with a stiletto dagger, and, all agree, a mind like a finely balanced circular saw" rather than someone who got there by being born?

(quote from Unseen Academicals, because one can never go wrong with Terry Pratchett. He's to quotes what garter-belts and stockings are to women in that regard)

Edit: rewrote the last sentence four times, and I still had to go back and fix it pshaugh.

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Kajehase
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Posted - 09 Sep 2010 :  22:23:28  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message
And while I'm thinking of lord Vetinari...

Does the realms have a figure whose name has gotten to be synonymous with ruthless politics the way Machiavelli became hear on Earth?
And, are there any widely recognised political ideologies throughout Faerun? I'm guessing Banites would be pretty keen on absolutism, for one.

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Ionik Knight
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Posted - 09 Sep 2010 :  23:55:27  Show Profile  Visit Ionik Knight's Homepage Send Ionik Knight a Private Message
I would like to ask, if it pleases you, do the Realms have (or had) any military legends...such as Sun Tzu, Napoleon, Julius Caesar, or Alexander the Great? I don't mean people who dominated the battlefield with their sword skill or spell might, but rather actual tacticians and strategists.
Of the Realms legends could we get a top list? When did they lead and whom did they lead? Finally, which ones were lead from the front (like Alexander) and which were oversee from high ground (or crystal ball I suppose) such as Napoleon?

Many Thanks for your Talent and your Patience

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Ionik Knight
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Posted - 10 Sep 2010 :  02:22:44  Show Profile  Visit Ionik Knight's Homepage Send Ionik Knight a Private Message
Mr Greenwood,

You've been writing the Realms since you were eight; did any of that first material get published? Do you still have any of it in its original form? I'ld love to have my ten and eight your old read your early stuff and then look at how much you've done since. Even if neither ever wants to be an author I think it would be inspiring for them.

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 10 Sep 2010 :  04:47:47  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message
Ionik, check One Comes, Unheralded, to Zirta in the Candlekeep Archives.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Markustay
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Posted - 10 Sep 2010 :  17:23:44  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
I figured Ed must have started earlier then that - his first character was named 'Goo-Goo'.

Who has since traveled to Earth and is now dating Lady Ga-Ga.

Rumor has it that she is also from another planet.

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Edited by - Markustay on 10 Sep 2010 17:24:27
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Lord of Bones
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Posted - 10 Sep 2010 :  17:24:29  Show Profile  Visit Lord of Bones's Homepage Send Lord of Bones a Private Message
Ho there, Lord Greenwood and the Lady Hooded!

You may recall from some time back, I asked a question about a PC jongleur marrying an NPC priestess of the church of Ilmater in my campaign, with the question at the time being related to her adolescent age and acceptable norms regarding age of consent in the Realms, or specifically Westgate.

Well, my campaign has advanced since that point, and the couple have had a healthy child, but a question has come up regarding 'baptism' of sorts. The jongleur most strongly identifies with the faiths of Milil and Lliira at this point in my game (having formerly been a lay worshipper of Oghma, but finding himself lately being drawn closer to the ethos of those two deities), and obviously his spouse is an Ilmateri, but rather than placing one faith over the other they would like a joint ceremony to 'consecrate' the child, as it were. On top of this, our party cleric (a priestess of Kelemvor, and formerly Myrkul) would like to officiate at the ceremony, as she (along with another PC) were made guardians of the child should the worst befall his parents. No doubt the priestess of the god of the dead would bring some of her own clerical trappings to bear, and hopefully she'll keep her sometime bleak and malignant outlook in check.

My question is basically whether an ecumenical ceremony of disparate faiths such as these could happen, and if so, how would you envision it taking place? I'm looking for some guidance on this one, as I'm GMing the ceremony (disaster will befall the moment it ends, when a recurring foe shows up at the temple, don't worry) and I want it to stay true to the Realms if possible. I foresee that if it succeeds, it could be a good reason for better unity among the faiths from that point on, as there has been something of a territory war between churches in Westgate in my game. They need a reason to be in the same room at the same time, so with any luck it will go well, and there could at least be a temporary alliance between the faiths of Milil, Lliira, Ilmater and Kelemvor.

As an aside, the jongleur is so titled because other than being a minstrel of sorts, his main profession is as something of a polticial satirist, mocking the establishment in whichever city he lays his hat for the amusement (and most importantly, coin) of the lower and merchant classes. I wondered whether there are such characters in your Realms, and whether you had any examples of famous (or indeed, infamous) satirists making their way across Faerun.

Many thanks

Matthew
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On my channel I review and dissect role-playing games with great gusto. Please do take a look and let me know what you think.

Edited by - Lord of Bones on 10 Sep 2010 17:57:54
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