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Garen Thal
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 24 Aug 2010 :  16:04:20  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by wintermute27

Dearest THO and Ed,

I have a question about inheritance laws in Cormyr in 1356 DR. Can the owner of an estate with no heir will it to a religious organization? I have a player in my group who is in the process of establishing a library and shrine on land he was given for services to the crown, but due to his character's sexual orientation, he does not have any children to inherit it. Can he leave the land to the library or will the title default back to the crown upon his death? Any information you can give would be much appreciated.
This depends entirely on the land grant and its language. Most lands in Cormyr default back to the Crown if there is no one to inherit it, unless that land is specifically enumerated in a will or testament by the owner.

There are, of course, nuances to the various applicable laws. If, for example, the person is not merely landed but titled, the land (or some portion of it) may or may not be attached or associated with the knightly or noble title the character possesses--which, in turn, means that if the noble title reverts to the Crown on his death, the lands will as well.

Of course, any and all Cormyrean lands can be seized by the Crown for crimes real or imagined, or some arcane technicality built into nearly all royal land grants. Depending on the size of the property, the nature of the faith to which its been left, and the value of the particular location, they may or may not exercise that right. Although the Dragon Throne doesn't make a habit of nabbing shrines or other holy places, they're certainly willing, when the need or desire arises, to take adjacent or associate lands, or chip away at holdings to lessen the influence of a local shrine or temple.
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Brace Cormaeril
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Posted - 24 Aug 2010 :  16:56:08  Show Profile  Visit Brace Cormaeril's Homepage Send Brace Cormaeril a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Jakk


Ooooh! I just had a thought about this... thank you, Brace, for asking this question, even if it got derailed by the mighty NDA wall. My speculation, which I suppose I've had for some time, but was only crystallized into clarity by the wording of Brace's question, follows the relevant facts below.




No problem, Jakk-man.


Careful, tho
Speculation by me is usually met
with rancor by THO!

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Markustay
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Posted - 24 Aug 2010 :  22:09:03  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
THO merely wishes to preserve the original flavor of the setting as intended, and does not 'play favorites' with anyone, nor does Ed.

They serve to clarify things, nothing more. Oft-times, things were left ambiguous enough in the Realms for all ideas to be possible, so their posts become 'guidelines', not 'Rules' (kinda like the Pirate's code... I always knew THO had some Pirate in her)

{Mark now imagining Ed with an eyepatch... ARRRRRRR!}

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 24 Aug 2010 22:10:12
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Karth
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Posted - 24 Aug 2010 :  22:35:26  Show Profile  Visit Karth's Homepage  Send Karth an AOL message Send Karth a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hmmm. Roughly just under a mile, east to west (the palisade doesn't enclose it all, by any means; Loudwater straggles along the riverbank on both sides of it for a bit, with lots of woodlots, tilled fields, pastureland/camping ground/unclaimed ground involved), and about a fifth to a quarter of that, north to south (it varies from a fifth at the west end, to a wider built-up area as one moves east - - and the river curves northeast; of course, the flow of the river is in the other direction, so from the river's point of view it comes south, curves to the southwest and then more west as it "passes through" Loudwater, which gains its name from the sound of its rapids, BTW).
love,
THO



Perfect. There's something coming your way, via The Sage. Please do have a look and let me know where I went wrong/right. If you and I can get a solid basic framework locked in, then Ed need only deal with the details.

Thanks again, lovely Hooded Pirate Girl... ;)

-Karth
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 25 Aug 2010 :  01:41:13  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Karth

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hmmm. Roughly just under a mile, east to west (the palisade doesn't enclose it all, by any means; Loudwater straggles along the riverbank on both sides of it for a bit, with lots of woodlots, tilled fields, pastureland/camping ground/unclaimed ground involved), and about a fifth to a quarter of that, north to south (it varies from a fifth at the west end, to a wider built-up area as one moves east - - and the river curves northeast; of course, the flow of the river is in the other direction, so from the river's point of view it comes south, curves to the southwest and then more west as it "passes through" Loudwater, which gains its name from the sound of its rapids, BTW).
love,
THO



Perfect. There's something coming your way, via The Sage. Please do have a look and let me know where I went wrong/right. If you and I can get a solid basic framework locked in, then Ed need only deal with the details.

Thanks again, lovely Hooded Pirate Girl... ;)

-Karth
Indeed. I've received the "something." I'm sending it Ed/THO's way now.

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Karth
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Posted - 25 Aug 2010 :  01:47:40  Show Profile  Visit Karth's Homepage  Send Karth an AOL message Send Karth a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Karth

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hmmm. Roughly just under a mile, east to west (the palisade doesn't enclose it all, by any means; Loudwater straggles along the riverbank on both sides of it for a bit, with lots of woodlots, tilled fields, pastureland/camping ground/unclaimed ground involved), and about a fifth to a quarter of that, north to south (it varies from a fifth at the west end, to a wider built-up area as one moves east - - and the river curves northeast; of course, the flow of the river is in the other direction, so from the river's point of view it comes south, curves to the southwest and then more west as it "passes through" Loudwater, which gains its name from the sound of its rapids, BTW).
love,
THO



Perfect. There's something coming your way, via The Sage. Please do have a look and let me know where I went wrong/right. If you and I can get a solid basic framework locked in, then Ed need only deal with the details.

Thanks again, lovely Hooded Pirate Girl... ;)

-Karth
Indeed. I've received the "something." I'm sending it Ed/THO's way now.



Much obliged, Sage. Sorry if I was insistent. It just so happens I have a little free time to devote to this right now. Once I get the bit in my teeth on something, I tend to charge hard. ;)

If/when it gets full approval from Saer Greenwood, I will of course make it available to Candlekeep, as it should be. About time I contributed something, I suppose...

Edited by - Karth on 25 Aug 2010 01:53:34
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 25 Aug 2010 :  02:28:45  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
Thank you Karth, and Sage...and thank you, Markustay, for perfectly stating matters re. what Ed and I do (no rancor, Brace, if your speculation happens to be either right or "close enough").
Ed tells me he's spent some moments today happily immersed in some Realmslore that will benefit us all in the future, but not in a project from his pen. No specifics, of course; he just wanted us all to be cheered by the hope of Realmslore to come . . .
Ed lost his eyepatch at some point, but I'm sure will happily recall his glimpse of me with tricorn hat, false mustache, eyepatch, cutlass, open leather vest, cummerbund belt with two (false; the "flints" were pencil erasers) flintlock pistols shoved through it, big floppy bucket-top swashbuckling boots . . . and nothing else.
Ah, those were the Hallowe'ens! Trick or . . . yes, treat, of course, sir . . . purrrr.

love to all,
THO

Edited by - The Hooded One on 25 Aug 2010 02:36:34
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Blueblade
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Posted - 25 Aug 2010 :  02:40:07  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
And I can't miss this opportunity to celebrate, just above this post, the 3500th post by our Lovely Lady Hooded.
Who along with a fair bit of warm-scribes-at-their-keyboards flirtation, has over the years conveyed to us enough canon Ed Realmslore to fill several sourcebooks, answered a lot of scribes' questions, cleared up much confusion, and become a friend to us all.
So thank you, Lady! Thank you!

LOVE,
BB
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Karth
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Posted - 25 Aug 2010 :  03:25:29  Show Profile  Visit Karth's Homepage  Send Karth an AOL message Send Karth a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Blueblade

And I can't miss this opportunity to celebrate, just above this post, the 3500th post by our Lovely Lady Hooded.
Who along with a fair bit of warm-scribes-at-their-keyboards flirtation, has over the years conveyed to us enough canon Ed Realmslore to fill several sourcebooks, answered a lot of scribes' questions, cleared up much confusion, and become a friend to us all.
So thank you, Lady! Thank you!

LOVE,
BB



Indeed. Thank you Hooded Lady, Herald Extraordinaire.

Love,

Karth
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 25 Aug 2010 :  06:51:03  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
Okay, another for Ed...

In my continuing quest to catalogue all relevant musical Realmslore references, I've been slowly working my way through a number of older sources. At the moment, I'm re-reading Realms of Infamy, whereupon I came across a particularly brief reference in your 'So High A Price' tale [pg. 3]. Specifically:- "Humming the latest minstrel tune, the wizard watched scorched feathers drift away."

I'm just curious as to whether you had any further details on this particular tune?

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 25 Aug 2010 :  15:59:47  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
I strongly suspect Ed does, because that story got shortened quite a bit to fit the wordcount, and I think one of the "easiest" cuts were four lines or so of the lyrics. Getting them out of Ed, now, that might be an achievement. We'll see . . .
love,
THO
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The Red Walker
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Posted - 25 Aug 2010 :  16:52:57  Show Profile  Send The Red Walker a Yahoo! Message Send The Red Walker a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

I strongly suspect Ed does, because that story got shortened quite a bit to fit the wordcount, and I think one of the "easiest" cuts were four lines or so of the lyrics. Getting them out of Ed, now, that might be an achievement. We'll see . . .
love,
THO



One might say it's a task perfectly suited to your charms, intelligence and persuasive talents mmmm???

A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -

John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963

Edited by - The Red Walker on 25 Aug 2010 16:54:04
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 25 Aug 2010 :  18:12:27  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Why, THANK you, sir!
I wasn't referring to my talents and techniques, or lack of same, but rather the difficulty, with so much time passing and floppy diskettes and their computers dying, of retrieval of that particular lore...
love,
THO
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The Red Walker
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Posted - 25 Aug 2010 :  18:23:20  Show Profile  Send The Red Walker a Yahoo! Message Send The Red Walker a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Why, THANK you, sir!
I wasn't referring to my talents and techniques, or lack of same, but rather the difficulty, with so much time passing and floppy diskettes and their computers dying, of retrieval of that particular lore...
love,
THO



Oh, I knew full well your meaning, but who would pass on a chance to flatter you eh?? (I'm a bad boy what can I say?)

And I'm also hopeful that one day , I might have some nugget of knowledge or something else you are needful of, that requires ...your "unique skill-set" to aqquire

A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -

John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963

Edited by - The Red Walker on 25 Aug 2010 18:30:52
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althen artren
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USA
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Posted - 25 Aug 2010 :  22:14:38  Show Profile Send althen artren a Private Message
So, how bout we all chip in and get Ed some new pc's eh?

You can only find so many 10+ year old machines to cannibalize
right?
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IlexGarodan
Seeker

Canada
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Posted - 25 Aug 2010 :  23:35:40  Show Profile  Visit IlexGarodan's Homepage  Send IlexGarodan an AOL message Send IlexGarodan a Private Message
Greetings, oh learned Ed.

A Wizard character of mine has a loving passion for cats. He's never seen without his feline familiar (which is often found all snug and warm on his shoulder) and often adopts strays to give as familiars to fledgling mages he teaches. My question is this-- what are the various breeds of cats found on Faerūn?

Edited by - IlexGarodan on 25 Aug 2010 23:36:57
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Blueblade
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Well, there are tressym!
BB
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The Sage
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Posted - 26 Aug 2010 :  02:18:24  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Why, THANK you, sir!
I wasn't referring to my talents and techniques, or lack of same, but rather the difficulty, with so much time passing and floppy diskettes and their computers dying, of retrieval of that particular lore...
love,
THO

Ah, well. Certainly, should the endeavour prove too time consuming or difficult, I'll understand if Ed wishes to turn his efforts elsewhere.

I'll simply craft something on my own, and maybe shuffle it along to Ed for further thoughts, eh?

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Jakk
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Posted - 26 Aug 2010 :  17:12:27  Show Profile Send Jakk a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi again, all.
Thank you Karth, and Sage...and thank you, Markustay, for perfectly stating matters re. what Ed and I do (no rancor, Brace, if your speculation happens to be either right or "close enough").

Speaking of Brace and "close enough"... no comment from Ed re: my theory on Mystryl/Mystra? That means that either I'm WAYYY off target with that speculation, or I'm "close enough" that Ed has no room within the NDA to say anything... hmm... for my purposes, I'll assume option #2...
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Ed tells me he's spent some moments today happily immersed in some Realmslore that will benefit us all in the future, but not in a project from his pen. No specifics, of course; he just wanted us all to be cheered by the hope of Realmslore to come . . .

Can Ed be any more specific about when in the future? I won't ask about the subject matter; I know he'd tell us if he could.
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Ed lost his eyepatch at some point, but I'm sure will happily recall his glimpse of me with tricorn hat, false mustache, eyepatch, cutlass, open leather vest, cummerbund belt with two (false; the "flints" were pencil erasers) flintlock pistols shoved through it, big floppy bucket-top swashbuckling boots . . . and nothing else.
Ah, those were the Hallowe'ens! Trick or . . . yes, treat, of course, sir . . . purrrr.

love to all,
THO


I think I still have my pirate costume if you still have yours...
Now I need to re-read "Pirates of the Fallen Stars"... and I don't have that book, or any of my other pre-3E sources, anywhere near me.

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.

Edited by - Jakk on 26 Aug 2010 17:19:37
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Brace Cormaeril
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Posted - 26 Aug 2010 :  22:13:19  Show Profile  Visit Brace Cormaeril's Homepage Send Brace Cormaeril a Private Message
Ed/TH0

What is the tallest building on Faerun?

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Brimstone
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New Eye on the Realms is up. Circle of Fangs

It has some Cormyrlore in it.

Killer little item, pure Ed Greenwood.
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Brimstone
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Where can I find more info on Clan Ironstar? What books, novels, ectera. THO do you have any knowledge that you could possibly share with us.


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Dennis
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Ed/THO/fellow scribes,

What's the biggest dead magic area before and after the SP?


Every beginning has an end.
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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 28 Aug 2010 :  23:46:05  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message
Ed,

While reading page 40 of the 1st Edition DMs Sourcebook for the Realms I came across a reference to the "Snow People of Thar" that I wanted to ask you about.

quote:

...,and Yostur Ulhmond, a young fighter from the villages of the Snow People in Thar, blond-haired and strong as an ox.



Are these blonde haired people native to Thar? Or, are they an invader people that helped form the Human Kingdom of Thar?

If native, how is it that they are only mentioned in this one passage in loose reference of a young strapping fighter from their villages in Thar?

Any and all information you can offer would be greatly appreciated!

EDIT: added quote

Edited by - Dalor Darden on 28 Aug 2010 23:49:35
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 29 Aug 2010 :  17:55:05  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all. Sorry for the silence for a few days, but Ed slipped away from his writing for a day to do some signings and interviews and a panel (DM Masterclass, with Robin Laws and Philippe Menard) at Toronto's annual crowded zoo of a geek get-together, FanExpo . . . and I slipped away from MY work to seize the opportunity to chat with him for a bit. FanExpo is fun, but the glaring shortcomings of that disaster of a convention centre were readily apparent.
Anyhoo, we're both back on duty. Wherefore I can bring this Ed response to Dalor Darden:

The Snow People are a blond, white-skinned, stockily-built nomadic hunting human people who hunt the elk and rothe and "highsnows deer" of Thar, having moved into the area after the fall of the "beast-men" (ogre) kingdom there (although the Snow People and various marauding monsters, such as hungry dragons swooping to devour, routed the last ogre tribes and reduced ogres to the rare few hardened raiding bands still encountered in the area today, the power of the ogres was broken by continuous internal feuding and dragonfeeding raids (plus similar raiding by wyverns, perytons, etc.) coupled with the slow but mighty rise in local power of the flind and orcs in the mountains, that ended in vicious wars of mutual extermination). The Snow People have "high" (mountain) and "low" (rolling hills/open country) villages that they move between, along favored routes of encampments where they may tarry for as long as a month or as little as overnight, depending on weather and how good the hunting is. Fur-wearing but hardened to the cold and wise in the ways of the Moonsea North wilderlands, they are considered "barbarians" by more southerly folk (think of a smallish race of blond Conan the Barbarians). As much as any stereotype or overall characterization can be correct, they are a lusty, brawling, cheerful, hardy people, of simple pleasures and past-times are great fear/respect of undead and arcane magic, who tend to see priests as "defenders of mortals by appeasing/tricking/steering the gods."


So saith Ed. Creator of the Snow People, Thar, the Moonsea . . . and oh, yes, the Realms.
love to all,
THO
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