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Dennis
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 :  00:25:16  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message
Ed, THO,

Is the ability to resurrect the dead only limited to priests/priestesses? Can certain wizards or theurges perform such feat without divine help? If so, what requirements do they have to meet? Power level, spell components, etc...


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Kajehase
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quote:
Originally posted by dennis

quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

I just bet there's a Zhentil Keep hose with the motto "I'll cut ya good."



And a Thayan house with: "I'll flay ya alive."

Possible, though I'd say that one would be quite likely to have been used in Dambrath already




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The Sage
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 :  01:23:34  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by dennis


Thanks, THO!

I'm interested to read the lyrics of those battle songs. Does Ed have plan of including them in his future works?
There were two or three partially mentioned in the various books of "The Knights of Myth Drannor" trilogy. My inner Realms-music-geek desperately wanted to know more, so I asked Ed about them last year.

You can search the "So Saith Ed" archives for the replies.

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Dennis
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 :  01:47:36  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message

Thanks, Sage. Haven't read that trilogy.


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Dennis
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 :  06:45:44  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message

Ed, THO,

Can a lich have more than one phylactery so that when one is destroyed, another will absorb the lich's soul? If so, at most how many? And can their phylacteries be placed in various planes?


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Dark Wizard
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 :  06:58:51  Show Profile Send Dark Wizard a Private Message
I believe the lich Aumvor the Undying has a spell just for the purpose of dividing his phylactery into multiple parts. More information about him and his spell, Aumvor's Fragmented Phylactery (or something similar sounding) can be found in Champions of Ruin.
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 :  15:26:55  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all. Last post before I do the stealth thing, and start sidling towards GenCon. Where I'll smooch Ed over drinks, buy a few games, and vanish once more into the night ...
Ahem.
dennis, Dark Wizard is quite correct. A lich CAN have multiple phylacteries. As you surmised, only one is "active" at a time (which can make detecting/identifying the others challenging).
Also, such liches are the rare exceptions, because this "wrinkle" in preparations for lichdom is very seldom written down by those who've devised it, and so must be thought of, and successfully achieved through experimentation, by each and every mage going lichnee.
This "rarity" applies to your earlier question about wizards and theurges bringing the dead back to life: a VERY rare few can do so (in the Realms, literally a handful of individuals, outside of those who are servitors of deities [of the power level of Chosen of Mystra, or above]). In the vast majority of cases, a wizard is helpless to bring back the dead, except as undead through necromancy. Priests are where most grieving folk will turn to, to get a dead person "back".
love,
THO
Who is off now, to head for the dread gamermoot at Indy...

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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 :  16:48:13  Show Profile  Visit Dalor Darden's Homepage Send Dalor Darden a Private Message
If you want to spend the Wish, I'm sure that will bring someone back from the dead as well.

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Foxhelm
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 :  22:25:40  Show Profile  Click to see Foxhelm's MSN Messenger address  Send Foxhelm a Yahoo! Message Send Foxhelm a Private Message
Been thing of creating a female Genasi character, but I have been wanting something a Genasi doesn't have in fourth edition... Hair. So I figured a magical hair implant or wig might work.

This brings up the question on hair technologies in the realms, where the cure for baldness is just a spell, prayer or diabolical contract away.

Is there ways for hair to be implanted on the bald or those who are not born with hair or born with a hair substitute (Genasi, Males with Pattern Baldness, Lizard-women)?

Are there enchanted wigs with mystical powers?

Also doe the wigs/implant also expand to non-top of the head hair (Magical Mustaches, Divine Beards for Dwarfs, chest hairs of manliness, or even more private enchanted hair... down there... where the had been no hair before your teens)?

Some serious with the silly...

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createvmind
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 :  23:26:57  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
Hello all,

Ed, can dimensional spaces/pockets/places be created to block out dieties giving spells to their servants within them? Is aid from the diety required for this or can it be achieved by mortal means, I would think the smaller the space the easier to block divine magic, yes?

Anything you can share on this?
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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 05 Aug 2010 :  05:49:48  Show Profile  Visit Dalor Darden's Homepage Send Dalor Darden a Private Message
Ed,

I just saw this Hero Battle: Elminster and...

Well, I'm sorry. I give you my apologies that a character that was intended to simply be a wonderful story element has become a marketing ploy aimed at all the hack-n-slash dice rollers of the current age that can now say: "I took down Elminster!"

I should have tried harder, I should have used my voice to persuade more, or I should have sent more thank you letters to TSR and WotC telling them how much I loved things just the way they are. Even having duplicate copies of books wouldn't have hurt me...

Now, I do have a question...and totally related to the game and your own writing.

If Elminster is killed; finally and irrevocably...what, if any, effects would that have concerning magic in the world?

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gomez
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Posted - 05 Aug 2010 :  08:37:14  Show Profile  Visit gomez's Homepage Send gomez a Private Message
I am still wondering if the 'battle' is the result of anything that actually happened in the book.
If so, the book would seem to end rather... odd.
The article makes 'assumptions' - but I wonder if these are fact or fancy.
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Brace Cormaeril
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Posted - 05 Aug 2010 :  13:30:30  Show Profile  Visit Brace Cormaeril's Homepage Send Brace Cormaeril a Private Message
I think that's a groovy painting of Elminster, and the hook is cool, too. The Chosen are, as often as not, a threat to the common folk of Faerun; I love encounters where the "villain's" motivations are manifold.

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Dennis
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Posted - 05 Aug 2010 :  13:33:53  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi again, all. Last post before I do the stealth thing, and start sidling towards GenCon. Where I'll smooch Ed over drinks, buy a few games, and vanish once more into the night ...
Ahem.
dennis, Dark Wizard is quite correct. A lich CAN have multiple phylacteries. As you surmised, only one is "active" at a time (which can make detecting/identifying the others challenging).
Also, such liches are the rare exceptions, because this "wrinkle" in preparations for lichdom is very seldom written down by those who've devised it, and so must be thought of, and successfully achieved through experimentation, by each and every mage going lichnee.
This "rarity" applies to your earlier question about wizards and theurges bringing the dead back to life: a VERY rare few can do so (in the Realms, literally a handful of individuals, outside of those who are servitors of deities [of the power level of Chosen of Mystra, or above]). In the vast majority of cases, a wizard is helpless to bring back the dead, except as undead through necromancy. Priests are where most grieving folk will turn to, to get a dead person "back".
love,
THO
Who is off now, to head for the dread gamermoot at Indy...



Thanks, THO. Have fun in the moot!

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Bakra
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Posted - 05 Aug 2010 :  13:34:17  Show Profile Send Bakra a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by gomez

I am still wondering if the 'battle' is the result of anything that actually happened in the book.
If so, the book would seem to end rather... odd.
The article makes 'assumptions' - but I wonder if these are fact or fancy.




It is pure fancy. Unless there is a whole chapter missing from the novel.
And I brought this up at the book club: How much of the book was left on the cutting room floor?

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 05 Aug 2010 :  13:57:47  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Brace Cormaeril

quote:
Originally posted by gomez

I am still wondering if the 'battle' is the result of anything that actually happened in the book.
If so, the book would seem to end rather... odd.
The article makes 'assumptions' - but I wonder if these are fact or fancy.




I don't know about fact or fancy, but the contents of the article are certainly fantasy. And hosted on Hasbro/WotC's site, hence canon.

BC, please don't tell me that the 'thought experiments' of fighting Elminster or Drizzt are meant to be canonical stories of the Realms.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Bakra
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quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart

quote:
Originally posted by Brace Cormaeril

quote:
Originally posted by gomez

I am still wondering if the 'battle' is the result of anything that actually happened in the book.
If so, the book would seem to end rather... odd.
The article makes 'assumptions' - but I wonder if these are fact or fancy.




I don't know about fact or fancy, but the contents of the article are certainly fantasy. And hosted on Hasbro/WotC's site, hence canon.

BC, please don't tell me that the 'thought experiments' of fighting Elminster or Drizzt are meant to be canonical stories of the Realms.



Before this explodes and goes way off topic. Ashe quoted something that no longer exists do to either BC deleting the original post of editing his post.


I hope Candlekeep continues to be the friendly forum of fellow Realms-lovers that it has always been, as we all go through this together. If you don’t want to move to the “new” Realms, that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with either you or the “old” Realms. Goodness knows Candlekeep, and the hearts of its scribes, are both big enough to accommodate both. If we want them to be.
(Strikes dramatic pose, raises sword to gleam in the sunset, and hopes breeches won’t fall down.)
Enough for now. The Realms lives! I have spoken! Ale and light wines half price, served by a smiling Storm Silverhand fetchingly clad in thigh-high boots and naught else! Ahem . .
So saith Ed. <snip>
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The Sage
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Fellow scribes, there's already a scroll dedicated to the side-topic you are all discussing here in Ed's scroll. Please take it elsewhere.

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Ergdusch
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Posted - 07 Aug 2010 :  13:27:37  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message
Hi Ed,

I have a question regarding the family of Summerstar from Firefall Vale.

According to my notes the founder of Firefall Keep was a Glothgam Summerstar. He carried a certain sword - the Sowrd of Summer Wind. Now to the questions:

1. Did this sword have special powers and if yes, which?
2. Who carries the sword today (in my campaign that is 1375 DR)?

Thanks in advance for your answers.

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Menelvagor
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Posted - 07 Aug 2010 :  21:10:03  Show Profile  Visit Menelvagor's Homepage Send Menelvagor a Private Message
Ed, in Elminster in Myth Drannor you wrote that elves consider kissing the ears and the palms of the hand very erotic. Why is this? Is it physical (elves are very sensitive there), or something else?

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Kajehase
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Based on the way Arilyn Moonblade reacts when Danilo Thann touches her ears in one of Elaune's books, I'd say that at least that bit is physical.

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George Krashos
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Posted - 08 Aug 2010 :  06:31:42  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message
Hi Ed and THO - hope GEN-CON is living up to expectations.

I was musing the other day about a bunch of FR stuff and a few disparate threads coalesced into a single question:

Aside from Szass Tam, have there been other groups or individuals who have braved the perils of Warlock's Crypt, conversed with Larloch and lived to tell the tale? If so, have any of them been from or associated with Candlekeep?

Thanks in advance.

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MaskedOne
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Posted - 08 Aug 2010 :  07:09:19  Show Profile Send MaskedOne a Private Message
Without directly naming anyone and thereby spoiling the novel end.


How difficult would it be for another being to successfully imitate (well enough to fool Storm, not just anyone off the block) the individual that contacted Storm at the end of Elminster Must Die?


Edit, question hidden, highlight post to read.

Edited by - MaskedOne on 09 Aug 2010 04:48:27
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Brimstone
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Thats why I have been really quiet about Elminster MUST Die here.

I have been spoiling the poop out of it on the Wizards Boards.

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