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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
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 Posted - 08 Sep 2010 : 04:55:37
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Hi again, all.
Kajehase, there are no trivial questions. (Or they all are, ultimately.) Yes, there are definitely above-the-knee fashions in various locales in the Realms (bear in mind that much published Realmslore has concerned colder northerly regions, where more covering would tend to be favoured), but I'll have to get Ed to give you specifics.
Waits expectantly (but patiently).
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 08 Sep 2010 : 12:50:46
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To Ed,
I was really surprised when I read the incestuous scenes in Arch Wizard. I'm guessing incest happens in the Realms as well. But was it ever shown in FR novels?
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 08 Sep 2010 : 13:46:49
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| I apologize if this has been answered before at the ‘keep. Does Cormyr fulfill requests for a military funeral for an eligible non-noble veteran? If the answer is yes, can you describe it? And I will ask this for the Sage, what is their version of “Taps” and does the song have any words? |
I hope Candlekeep continues to be the friendly forum of fellow Realms-lovers that it has always been, as we all go through this together. If you don’t want to move to the “new” Realms, that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with either you or the “old” Realms. Goodness knows Candlekeep, and the hearts of its scribes, are both big enough to accommodate both. If we want them to be.
(Strikes dramatic pose, raises sword to gleam in the sunset, and hopes breeches won’t fall down.)
Enough for now. The Realms lives! I have spoken! Ale and light wines half price, served by a smiling Storm Silverhand fetchingly clad in thigh-high boots and naught else! Ahem . .
So saith Ed. <snip>
love to all,
THO
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Jakk
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 08 Sep 2010 : 15:07:19
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
<chop>...There are some other "open, waiting secrets" of the Realms like this that we don't volunteer - - but we WILL confirm, if a scribe "tumbles to them."
Wheee! 
love to all,
THO
I dearly wish I had all of my pre-3E Realms publications with me... I'll assume that the point regarding the still-living Chosen of Mystryl mentioned a while back is one of those "open secrets" (and I have a theory related to that one, inspired by a post by The Red Walker; I may PM you with this, milady, to see if I'm on the right track here), as is Elminster's connection to Cormyr recently speculated upon by Markustay (and I'm still puzzling that one out, too, but I have no further insight as yet).
I did have a question, but I've decided to hang on to it until I finish reading Elminster Must Die... that shouldn't be too long now... and if I still have the question at that point, then I'll ask it (possibly by PM, if I can't find a way to ask that isn't a spoiler and yet is still intelligible to those "in the know").
Edit: 1500th post!
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 09 Sep 2010 : 00:34:39
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Okay, I seem to be on a roll, so let me try another -
I'm WELL aware of how clever Filfaeril is - Vangerdehast, an Archmage (and therefore brilliant), was afraid to play her in chess.
I have several theories about her - I already assume she is a high-up Harper agent, given her contacts and private portal - but I will take this a step further...
Knowing Ed is an avid reader, I'm sure he has fully digested Frank Herbert's Dune novels (at least, the first amazing trilogy), so I am wondering... is Filfaeril's character in any way inspired by Paul Atreides mother? (I think you may know what I am getting at - this could mean several different things) This may relate back to some of those 'breeding programs' Mystra's Chosen and Magister's were occasionally involved in.
Also, don't know if anyone ever asked this before - probably and probably NDA - but I'll give it a shot. Has Elminster himself ever had children? I'm NOT talking about him being a father....
And while I am at it, was the 'Elmara period' the only time he spent a prolonged period as a female?
Also, the Elminster questions are unrelated to the Filfaeril question..... AFAIK. |
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Ionik Knight
Learned Scribe
USA
222 Posts |
Posted - 09 Sep 2010 : 01:02:31
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 09 Sep 2010 : 01:13:45
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Hi again, all.
Markustay, re. your Filfaeril questions, and these: "Also, don't know if anyone ever asked this before - probably and probably NDA - but I'll give it a shot. Has Elminster himself ever had children? I'm NOT talking about him being a father....
And while I am at it, was the 'Elmara period' the only time he spent a prolonged period as a female?"
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Nothing about Filfaeril is inspired by any of Frank's Dune books, because Fee was detailed and determined in my notes before I got to read the first book (it was in my father's HUGE "to read" pile, and in those days, after I'd sprung some quite adult novels on him from his collection and asked him eagerly if there were sequels, he'd decided to "vet" my borrowings from his collection. He didn't get to DUNE until 1966, when it won the first Nebula and thus got drawn to his attention; he fished it out of the pile, read it, decided it was okay for my tender brain, and handed it on to me. I was seven years old at the time, and six when DUNE came out, remember. :}
I can say that Fee works with the Harpers, sometimes deliberately against Vangerdahast, but her relationship to Those Who Harp (Dove and Storm are involved, remember) is a little more complicated than "she's a Harper agent." I have to tread carefully here because of NDAs, so I think I'll leave it at that for now. Other than to say you're on to something, and Fee is, yes, far deeper than she's been depicted in canon Realmslore thus far.
As for the Elminster questions: VERY MUCH NDA. Hint cough hint. The answer to the second one really depends on your definition of "prolonged."
So saith Ed. Hinting like mad, I see . . .
love,
THO
Sorry for the sporadic nature of this message; I'm in a vehicle, and keep losing Net access as we move (NO, I'm not driving, safety-minded scribes!). |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 09 Sep 2010 : 01:19:02
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Ahhh, Okay... should have thought if that.
However, are there certain similarities, though? You know... pertaining to her being chosen for her role, and later* actually falling in love with Azoun?
I'm getting a very 'more then she seems' vibe from her.
*And by 'later', it could be the moment she laid eyes on him... but their meeting was pre-arranged. |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 09 Sep 2010 : 01:30:18
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That vibe is "right on," but I'm not sure about who arranged their er, breeding. I'll see if I can nudge Ed into saying something.
Purrr . . . nudge time . . . purr . . .
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Thauramarth
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
729 Posts |
Posted - 09 Sep 2010 : 14:21:14
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Ed and THO,
A question on Manshoon (which may, or may not be NDA'd). I was musing about the Manshoon Wars, and the fact that Manshoon had about fourty clones and/or stasis clones lying all around the place. Manny has become one of the prominent NPCs in the Realms, and as he has appeared in fiction, he came across as someone who regularly marched in to go toe-to-toe with his opponents personally (e.g., in Spellfire and Crown of Fire).
Was the idea of stasis clones part of Manshoon's pre-publication Realms setup? I.e., did he have a bit of a reckless streak, on the general assumption that he had fourty-odd backups lying around, or were the fourty clones (not a reference to Ali Baba's fourty thives, I guess) a mechanism that was created to allow for Manshoon's continued survival during a period when the depiction of the Zhentarim (including their boss) as the Keystone Cops of the Realms seemed to be de rigueur? I am asking, because I would have seen Manshoon more as a very capable schemer, who would only very rarely put himself in a position where he'd be liable to risk his own health, let alone his life.
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 09 Sep 2010 : 15:17:05
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Yes, the stasis clones were part of Ed's concept of Manshoon from the beginning (1967 or so).
I agree with you that Manshoon would seem to be more the calculating, careful, "lead from the rear" sort. However, Ed and I have talked about this (after events in Realmsplay in the "home" campaign), and he pointed out that part of keeping the wizards (not the priests) of the Zhentarim in line was showing that he could personally take down mighty foes when he had to...hence the toe-to-toe moments. His repeated problem has been underestimating those mighty foes.
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 09 Sep 2010 : 18:10:29
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Hi again, all. Back in May of this year (Page 42 of this thread) Jorkens asked, in part: “In Adjatha "the Drinker.": Nesker of Mulmaster, sorcerer king, ruled in the early years of the 1300's. Would it be possible to get some information on this ruler and the older Mulmaster rulers in general?”
Ed dropped me a note to say he’s still hunting (amid all of his other projects, of course) for his circa-1982 notes on this, but he has found a synopsis paragraph he wrote for a TSR designer around 1988, which reads in part:
. . . This merchant council was riven by corruption and feuding, and was easily overthrown (its members butchered) by the ruthless mercenary Aurbraunt, who’d recently settled in the city. Intending to enrich himself by providing armed escorts for mining caravans coming south to the Moonsea in return for a share of their takings, Aurbraunt became a bold warlord whose increasing reach angered other inhabitants of the region. However, before they could slay him, a visiting merchant, the soft-spoken but utterly ruthless Rurlyskam “the Calishite,” took care of that murder for them, taking over as ruler of Mulmaster for less than a season before he was magically controlled, and then destroyed, by the sorcerer Nesker, who proclaimed himself “king” of the city, and began a long and brutal rule by rounding up and slaughtering anyone within his reach who had any aptitude for the Art at all.
So saith Ed. Who will reveal more when he can.
love to all,
THO
Thank you very much both of you. Now I am even more curious about the city. But I am sorry to have sent Ed hunting into the dreaded Realmsian archives.
But this made me think about another question. Is there a cultural reason for the few hereditary rulers of the northern Realms or is it mostly a matter of taste from Ed? Even if there are a couple of families ruling and a couple of monarchies, it seems like the council (or short time tyrants) is the norm. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 09 Sep 2010 : 22:01:22
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If I may...
If some of the history of the Moonsea region is based on Ed's original - and I get a feeling that that particular area has stayed more 'pristine Ed' then most - then the original settlers in that area were all.... less then reputable, to put it mildly.
Those were the 'folk of the Black Sails', who fought alongside monstrous groups against other humans. This would have prompted a pirate or 'bandit-king' style culture throughout the Moonsea. Rulers of settlements and cultures based around that mindset are often determined by 'might makes right', and the 'strongest shall rule', which means the leader of any given tribe or settlement holds his post for as long as he can keep the sword-blade from his throat.
The children of such barabric and brutal leaders are rarely of the same caliber as their parents, simply because they grow-up in a protected environment, in most cases, and the minute 'Daddy' (or Mommy, as the case may be) isn't around anymore, the second-in-command (who is usually the second toughest) takes over, and will normally destroy any offspring of the former ruler.
And that is why it is so hard for hereditary rulers to stay in power in 'evil' societies.
Bottom line is, most of the 'old blood' of the Moonsea just aren't very nice people. They've had an influx of 'fresh blood' in recent years, but the 'old gaurd' makes sure to keep them down (the way Zhentil Keep and Mulmaster try to maintain control of their neighbors). Areas in which corruption is ripe, like the Moonsea area, always have a certain way of doing things, and do not like 'goodly types' interfering with their business. Its a warlord-mentality, and 'inheritance' is determined by a sword arm, not birth. Like that Necromunger dude said in that movie - "You keep what you kill." |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
2104 Posts |
Posted - 09 Sep 2010 : 22:09:33
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The northerners like their rulers to have come by their position "by cunning, a deep understanding of the human psyche, breathtaking diplomacy, a certain prowess with a stiletto dagger, and, all agree, a mind like a finely balanced circular saw" rather than someone who got there by being born?
(quote from Unseen Academicals, because one can never go wrong with Terry Pratchett. He's to quotes what garter-belts and stockings are to women in that regard)
Edit: rewrote the last sentence four times, and I still had to go back and fix it pshaugh. |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
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Posted - 09 Sep 2010 : 22:23:28
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And while I'm thinking of lord Vetinari...
Does the realms have a figure whose name has gotten to be synonymous with ruthless politics the way Machiavelli became hear on Earth?
And, are there any widely recognised political ideologies throughout Faerun? I'm guessing Banites would be pretty keen on absolutism, for one. |
There is a rumour going around that I have found god. I think is unlikely because I have enough difficulty finding my keys, and there is empirical evidence that they exist.
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Ionik Knight
Learned Scribe
USA
222 Posts |
Posted - 09 Sep 2010 : 23:55:27
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I would like to ask, if it pleases you, do the Realms have (or had) any military legends...such as Sun Tzu, Napoleon, Julius Caesar, or Alexander the Great? I don't mean people who dominated the battlefield with their sword skill or spell might, but rather actual tacticians and strategists.
Of the Realms legends could we get a top list? When did they lead and whom did they lead? Finally, which ones were lead from the front (like Alexander) and which were oversee from high ground (or crystal ball I suppose) such as Napoleon?
Many Thanks for your Talent and your Patience |
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Ionik Knight
Learned Scribe
USA
222 Posts |
Posted - 10 Sep 2010 : 02:22:44
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Mr Greenwood,
You've been writing the Realms since you were eight; did any of that first material get published? Do you still have any of it in its original form? I'ld love to have my ten and eight your old read your early stuff and then look at how much you've done since. Even if neither ever wants to be an author I think it would be inspiring for them.
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 10 Sep 2010 : 17:23:44
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I figured Ed must have started earlier then that - his first character was named 'Goo-Goo'.
Who has since traveled to Earth and is now dating Lady Ga-Ga.
Rumor has it that she is also from another planet.  |
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Lord of Bones
Seeker
United Kingdom
78 Posts |
Posted - 10 Sep 2010 : 17:24:29
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Ho there, Lord Greenwood and the Lady Hooded!
You may recall from some time back, I asked a question about a PC jongleur marrying an NPC priestess of the church of Ilmater in my campaign, with the question at the time being related to her adolescent age and acceptable norms regarding age of consent in the Realms, or specifically Westgate.
Well, my campaign has advanced since that point, and the couple have had a healthy child, but a question has come up regarding 'baptism' of sorts. The jongleur most strongly identifies with the faiths of Milil and Lliira at this point in my game (having formerly been a lay worshipper of Oghma, but finding himself lately being drawn closer to the ethos of those two deities), and obviously his spouse is an Ilmateri, but rather than placing one faith over the other they would like a joint ceremony to 'consecrate' the child, as it were. On top of this, our party cleric (a priestess of Kelemvor, and formerly Myrkul) would like to officiate at the ceremony, as she (along with another PC) were made guardians of the child should the worst befall his parents. No doubt the priestess of the god of the dead would bring some of her own clerical trappings to bear, and hopefully she'll keep her sometime bleak and malignant outlook in check.
My question is basically whether an ecumenical ceremony of disparate faiths such as these could happen, and if so, how would you envision it taking place? I'm looking for some guidance on this one, as I'm GMing the ceremony (disaster will befall the moment it ends, when a recurring foe shows up at the temple, don't worry) and I want it to stay true to the Realms if possible. I foresee that if it succeeds, it could be a good reason for better unity among the faiths from that point on, as there has been something of a territory war between churches in Westgate in my game. They need a reason to be in the same room at the same time, so with any luck it will go well, and there could at least be a temporary alliance between the faiths of Milil, Lliira, Ilmater and Kelemvor.
As an aside, the jongleur is so titled because other than being a minstrel of sorts, his main profession is as something of a polticial satirist, mocking the establishment in whichever city he lays his hat for the amusement (and most importantly, coin) of the lower and merchant classes. I wondered whether there are such characters in your Realms, and whether you had any examples of famous (or indeed, infamous) satirists making their way across Faerun.
Many thanks
Matthew
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Posted - 11 Sep 2010 : 16:11:10
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Hi, Ed and THO,
Will both of you be at Phantasm this year, or just Ed?
And when/where is it? Peterborough, yes, and downstairs in the library I assume, but am I right? Details?
Thanks!
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Blueblade
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 11 Sep 2010 : 16:17:46
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Hey! "BB" is me! You're "LL"!
Pushed the wrong keys?
Obviously, I'm neither Ed nor THO, but from the Phantasm website, here's the poop for this year's con:
"September 25th & 26th, 2010/Hours: Saturday 10:00 AM - 12:00 Midnight, Sunday 10:00 AM - 8:00 PM (both days, doors open at 9:00 AM). The con is downstairs at the Peterborough Public Library, 345 Aylmer Street North in downtown Peterborough (which has a tiny lot, but there's a large public parking garage, free on Sats and Suns, a block south and east). Cost for Phantasm is $5.00 per game session, or $25.00 for a Weekend Pass.
Special Guests: Lawrence Whitaker (Mongoose Writer, author of RuneQuest II and Elric of Melnibone, and contributor for Traveller and Conan)
Ed Greenwood (creator of the Forgotten Realms and best selling author)"
This is a small con, maybe 50-70 people at most. Friendly, low-key, a few dealers; great chance to talk to people (like, ahem, Ed).
There you go!
BB (not LL)
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Longtime Lurker
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Posted - 11 Sep 2010 : 16:21:48
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Thank you!
And sorry for unintentionally impersonating you, BB. I'm using a Blackberry-like prototype with a tiny keypad that slides out. There's a keystroke combo to do caps, and it looks like in my haste to sign off, when I went caps to type "LL," I somehow screwed up the keypad mapping and transposed.
Somehow. Grr.
Beta, get thee behind me!
Sorry, Blueblade.
I am LL, I really am, not BB.
And I'll try to make it to Phantasm this year. I'd heard it was a chance to game with Ed and talk with Ed in a way that's nigh impossible at, say, GenCon.
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 11 Sep 2010 : 16:24:20
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Heh. Glad you two got your secret identities all sorted out.
No, I can't make it this year, but Ed will be there, and I echo BB's words about it being a small, friendly local con offering great opportunities to talk with Ed.
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Snowblood
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 12 Sep 2010 : 03:13:10
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Well if I had lotsa a cash I'd fly to Peterborough & chew the fat all day with Ed......those who go to Phantasm....enjoy... I wonder if this is where Ed works???? Just musing......don't really expect a reply |
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Jakk
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Sep 2010 : 06:45:21
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Okay, two three questions regarding Elminster Must Die, both all of which I suspect to be answered with "NDA"... phrased to be as spoiler-free as possible while keeping them intelligible:
1) How did the illustrious newcomer to Chapter 33 happen to be trapped wherefrom he was released?
2) In Chapter 20, the newly-released ghost blames Myrkul for driving the Nine insane, but Myrkul didn't inhabit the Crown of Horns until after the shattering of the Nine. Was the Crown of Horns a relic of Myrkul's church (or something similarly associated with the Lord of Bones) from the beginning?
3) I can't find the exact passage now, but (spoiler): I remember reading something about Elminster saying that he had ruled two realms (or more than one, at any rate)... he had ruled Athalantar very briefly, but what was the other realm? Is this related to the ties that bind him to Cormyr? His years of inactivity (as far as the Grand History is concerned) match up fairly closely with the reign of Draxius, but not closely enough for the two to be one... and at any rate, we know that all crowned heads of Cormyr are descended from Faerlthann "First King"... including Silbran, whose connection, along with the details of the Thronestrife child-monarchs, still have me trying to tear out what little close-cropped and thinning hair I have.
You know this already from my earlier pleas, but not having the Cormyr Lineage makes me sad... far more so than the Spellplague does, in fact.
And I'll stop there... mostly because I know better than to ask about Halaster (NDA), Larloch (NDA), or the surprise arrival at the end of Elminster Must Die. And yes, I've finished it already; I read it in three nights. How long must I wait for Bury Elminster Deep? Edit: I've said this elsewhere in the 'Keep, but it bears repeating here for Ed's benefit: Elminster Must Die is the best I've read from Ed yet... with the possible exception of Elminster in Hell. |
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George Krashos
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Posted - 12 Sep 2010 : 12:30:39
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Re your Q.2, "Volo's Guide to All Things Magical" states that the Crown of Horns was actually created by Myrkul - no doubt using Trebbe of Netheril as an unwitting pawn.
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 12 Sep 2010 : 12:58:02
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Originally posted by Jakk
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3) I can't find the exact passage now, but (spoiler): I remember reading something about Elminster saying that he had ruled two realms (or more than one, at any rate)... he had ruled Athalantar very briefly, but what was the other realm? Is this related to the ties that bind him to Cormyr? His years of inactivity (as far as the Grand History is concerned) match up fairly closely with the reign of Draxius, but not closely enough for the two to be one... and at any rate, we know that all crowned heads of Cormyr are descended from Faerlthann "First King"... including Silbran, whose connection, along with the details of the Thronestrife child-monarchs, still have me trying to tear out what little close-cropped and thinning hair I have.
You know this already from my earlier pleas, but not having the Cormyr Lineage makes me sad... far more so than the Spellplague does, in fact.
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Second this question. And the Cormyr Lineage.
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Lord of Bones
Seeker
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Sep 2010 : 13:15:28
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Yep, the Crown was an artefact created by Myrkul before his death in the Time of Troubles. It would bop around the Realms, sitting on the heads of people, driving them mad and evil before then deciding to visit someone else. Khelben 'destroyed' the Crown and kept its fragments locked away in his tower, but due to Myrkul's proximity to the fragments at the time of his death he forced his essence into them, re-forging the artefact and teleporting away.
I have a question relating to the Crown, in fact. Aside from those already mentioned, including Laeral and Nhyris, have there been any other characters in Realms history that have been recorded as bearers of the Crown, either pre or post Myrkul's death? Could Ed honour us with some lore on the malign mischief the Crown got up to?
Additionally, my interpretation of Myrkul (from Faiths & Avatars) is that he was more of a laid-back deity in terms of spreading out-and-out evil throughout the Realms, relying more on the fear of dying (which is for 99.9% of the Realms inhabitants, inevitable) than causing mass death and destruction. Again, that's my interpretation, but I wondered if Ed could tell us why Myrkul, if he was a rather cool-headed deity of evil, would create an artefact of misrule like the Crown of Horns.
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The Red Walker
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Posted - 12 Sep 2010 : 15:38:55
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
One postscript, upon reflection: Azoun was/is no dunderhead or easily-manipulated dupe, and neither is Filfaeril. It's important not to overemphasize "Vangey as Machiavelli" here, and to avoid seeing Azoun or his queen as weak, enspelled, or oblivious. They, too, play the game of "balancing bastards and heirs" off against each other, for the good of the realm (i.e. to keep the throne strong and the Obarskyr bloodlines very much in existence, but also to prevent civil war/their own assassinations/overmuch feuding amongst the nobles).
Right. My work here is done. For a few breaths.
More lore soon,
love to all,
THO
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