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Dennis
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 Posted - 03 Aug 2010 : 00:25:16
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Ed, THO,
Is the ability to resurrect the dead only limited to priests/priestesses? Can certain wizards or theurges perform such feat without divine help? If so, what requirements do they have to meet? Power level, spell components, etc...
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Kajehase
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 : 01:08:51
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I just bet there's a Zhentil Keep hose with the motto "I'll cut ya good."
And a Thayan house with: "I'll flay ya alive."
Possible, though I'd say that one would be quite likely to have been used in Dambrath already
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 : 01:23:34
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Thanks, THO!
I'm interested to read the lyrics of those battle songs. Does Ed have plan of including them in his future works?
There were two or three partially mentioned in the various books of "The Knights of Myth Drannor" trilogy. My inner Realms-music-geek desperately wanted to know more, so I asked Ed about them last year.
You can search the "So Saith Ed" archives for the replies. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 : 01:47:36
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Thanks, Sage. Haven't read that trilogy.
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 03 Aug 2010 : 06:45:44
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Ed, THO,
Can a lich have more than one phylactery so that when one is destroyed, another will absorb the lich's soul? If so, at most how many? And can their phylacteries be placed in various planes?
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Dark Wizard
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 : 06:58:51
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 : 15:26:55
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Hi again, all. Last post before I do the stealth thing, and start sidling towards GenCon. Where I'll smooch Ed over drinks, buy a few games, and vanish once more into the night ...
Ahem.
dennis, Dark Wizard is quite correct. A lich CAN have multiple phylacteries. As you surmised, only one is "active" at a time (which can make detecting/identifying the others challenging).
Also, such liches are the rare exceptions, because this "wrinkle" in preparations for lichdom is very seldom written down by those who've devised it, and so must be thought of, and successfully achieved through experimentation, by each and every mage going lichnee.
This "rarity" applies to your earlier question about wizards and theurges bringing the dead back to life: a VERY rare few can do so (in the Realms, literally a handful of individuals, outside of those who are servitors of deities [of the power level of Chosen of Mystra, or above]). In the vast majority of cases, a wizard is helpless to bring back the dead, except as undead through necromancy. Priests are where most grieving folk will turn to, to get a dead person "back".
love,
THO
Who is off now, to head for the dread gamermoot at Indy... |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 : 16:48:13
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Foxhelm
Senior Scribe
Canada
592 Posts |
Posted - 03 Aug 2010 : 22:25:40
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Been thing of creating a female Genasi character, but I have been wanting something a Genasi doesn't have in fourth edition... Hair. So I figured a magical hair implant or wig might work.
This brings up the question on hair technologies in the realms, where the cure for baldness is just a spell, prayer or diabolical contract away.
Is there ways for hair to be implanted on the bald or those who are not born with hair or born with a hair substitute (Genasi, Males with Pattern Baldness, Lizard-women)?
Are there enchanted wigs with mystical powers?
Also doe the wigs/implant also expand to non-top of the head hair (Magical Mustaches, Divine Beards for Dwarfs, chest hairs of manliness, or even more private enchanted hair... down there... where the had been no hair before your teens)?
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createvmind
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 : 23:26:57
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Hello all,
Ed, can dimensional spaces/pockets/places be created to block out dieties giving spells to their servants within them? Is aid from the diety required for this or can it be achieved by mortal means, I would think the smaller the space the easier to block divine magic, yes?
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4211 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 05:49:48
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Ed,
I just saw this Hero Battle: Elminster and...
Well, I'm sorry. I give you my apologies that a character that was intended to simply be a wonderful story element has become a marketing ploy aimed at all the hack-n-slash dice rollers of the current age that can now say: "I took down Elminster!"
I should have tried harder, I should have used my voice to persuade more, or I should have sent more thank you letters to TSR and WotC telling them how much I loved things just the way they are. Even having duplicate copies of books wouldn't have hurt me...
Now, I do have a question...and totally related to the game and your own writing.
If Elminster is killed; finally and irrevocably...what, if any, effects would that have concerning magic in the world? |
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gomez
Learned Scribe
Netherlands
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Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 08:37:14
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I am still wondering if the 'battle' is the result of anything that actually happened in the book.
If so, the book would seem to end rather... odd.
The article makes 'assumptions' - but I wonder if these are fact or fancy.
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Brace Cormaeril
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 13:30:30
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 13:33:53
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
Hi again, all. Last post before I do the stealth thing, and start sidling towards GenCon. Where I'll smooch Ed over drinks, buy a few games, and vanish once more into the night ...
Ahem.
dennis, Dark Wizard is quite correct. A lich CAN have multiple phylacteries. As you surmised, only one is "active" at a time (which can make detecting/identifying the others challenging).
Also, such liches are the rare exceptions, because this "wrinkle" in preparations for lichdom is very seldom written down by those who've devised it, and so must be thought of, and successfully achieved through experimentation, by each and every mage going lichnee.
This "rarity" applies to your earlier question about wizards and theurges bringing the dead back to life: a VERY rare few can do so (in the Realms, literally a handful of individuals, outside of those who are servitors of deities [of the power level of Chosen of Mystra, or above]). In the vast majority of cases, a wizard is helpless to bring back the dead, except as undead through necromancy. Priests are where most grieving folk will turn to, to get a dead person "back".
love,
THO
Who is off now, to head for the dread gamermoot at Indy...
Thanks, THO. Have fun in the moot!
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 13:34:17
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Originally posted by gomez
I am still wondering if the 'battle' is the result of anything that actually happened in the book.
If so, the book would seem to end rather... odd.
The article makes 'assumptions' - but I wonder if these are fact or fancy.
It is pure fancy. Unless there is a whole chapter missing from the novel.
And I brought this up at the book club: How much of the book was left on the cutting room floor? |
I hope Candlekeep continues to be the friendly forum of fellow Realms-lovers that it has always been, as we all go through this together. If you don’t want to move to the “new” Realms, that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with either you or the “old” Realms. Goodness knows Candlekeep, and the hearts of its scribes, are both big enough to accommodate both. If we want them to be.
(Strikes dramatic pose, raises sword to gleam in the sunset, and hopes breeches won’t fall down.)
Enough for now. The Realms lives! I have spoken! Ale and light wines half price, served by a smiling Storm Silverhand fetchingly clad in thigh-high boots and naught else! Ahem . .
So saith Ed. <snip>
love to all,
THO
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
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Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 13:57:47
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Originally posted by Brace Cormaeril
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Originally posted by gomez
I am still wondering if the 'battle' is the result of anything that actually happened in the book.
If so, the book would seem to end rather... odd.
The article makes 'assumptions' - but I wonder if these are fact or fancy.
I don't know about fact or fancy, but the contents of the article are certainly fantasy. And hosted on Hasbro/WotC's site, hence canon.
BC, please don't tell me that the 'thought experiments' of fighting Elminster or Drizzt are meant to be canonical stories of the Realms. |
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 15:14:04
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
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Originally posted by Brace Cormaeril
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Originally posted by gomez
I am still wondering if the 'battle' is the result of anything that actually happened in the book.
If so, the book would seem to end rather... odd.
The article makes 'assumptions' - but I wonder if these are fact or fancy.
I don't know about fact or fancy, but the contents of the article are certainly fantasy. And hosted on Hasbro/WotC's site, hence canon.
BC, please don't tell me that the 'thought experiments' of fighting Elminster or Drizzt are meant to be canonical stories of the Realms.
Before this explodes and goes way off topic. Ashe quoted something that no longer exists do to either BC deleting the original post of editing his post.
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I hope Candlekeep continues to be the friendly forum of fellow Realms-lovers that it has always been, as we all go through this together. If you don’t want to move to the “new” Realms, that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with either you or the “old” Realms. Goodness knows Candlekeep, and the hearts of its scribes, are both big enough to accommodate both. If we want them to be.
(Strikes dramatic pose, raises sword to gleam in the sunset, and hopes breeches won’t fall down.)
Enough for now. The Realms lives! I have spoken! Ale and light wines half price, served by a smiling Storm Silverhand fetchingly clad in thigh-high boots and naught else! Ahem . .
So saith Ed. <snip>
love to all,
THO
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
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Posted - 07 Aug 2010 : 13:27:37
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Hi Ed,
I have a question regarding the family of Summerstar from Firefall Vale.
According to my notes the founder of Firefall Keep was a Glothgam Summerstar. He carried a certain sword - the Sowrd of Summer Wind. Now to the questions:
1. Did this sword have special powers and if yes, which?
2. Who carries the sword today (in my campaign that is 1375 DR)?
Thanks in advance for your answers.
Best Regards, Ergdusch
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Menelvagor
Senior Scribe
Israel
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Posted - 07 Aug 2010 : 21:10:03
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| Ed, in Elminster in Myth Drannor you wrote that elves consider kissing the ears and the palms of the hand very erotic. Why is this? Is it physical (elves are very sensitive there), or something else? |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
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Posted - 07 Aug 2010 : 22:25:34
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| Based on the way Arilyn Moonblade reacts when Danilo Thann touches her ears in one of Elaune's books, I'd say that at least that bit is physical. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 08 Aug 2010 : 06:31:42
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Hi Ed and THO - hope GEN-CON is living up to expectations.
I was musing the other day about a bunch of FR stuff and a few disparate threads coalesced into a single question:
Aside from Szass Tam, have there been other groups or individuals who have braved the perils of Warlock's Crypt, conversed with Larloch and lived to tell the tale? If so, have any of them been from or associated with Candlekeep?
Thanks in advance.
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MaskedOne
Acolyte
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Posted - 08 Aug 2010 : 07:09:19
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Without directly naming anyone and thereby spoiling the novel end.
How difficult would it be for another being to successfully imitate (well enough to fool Storm, not just anyone off the block) the individual that contacted Storm at the end of Elminster Must Die?
Edit, question hidden, highlight post to read. |
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Snowblood
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 08 Aug 2010 : 13:55:53
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| for those of us still waiting for the novel please alert us to spoilers alerts first before posting......... |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 08 Aug 2010 : 14:04:50
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Thats why I have been really quiet about Elminster MUST Die here.
I have been spoiling the poop out of it on the Wizards Boards.
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The Simbul
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 08 Aug 2010 : 15:57:05
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I finished ELMINSTER MUST DIE many days ago, with fate permitting me to have acquired it nigh unto a tenday earlier. Without revealing any secrets here I shall say I enjoyed it immensely, and overwhelmingly recommend it to all fans of the Old Sage and Saer Greenwood's characters in general. I had not realized how much I had missed so many of these characters, much like long lost old friends, and it was heartening to see and hear of them again...in fact many more than I had anticipated or could have hoped for!
Needless to say I have many, many questions to ask and many more (largely positive) comments to deliver. However I will wait until after my second read-through (that being the more slow, deliberate, and note-taking reading) and after I have had a chance to discuss extensively on the Book Club discussion threads here, so as not to burden this thread with too many spoilers to dodge and intense side discussions.
I do however have one question, which does not contain or imply much of a spoiler, beyond what is revealed in the sample chapters, book cover flap, and the upcoming entries in the series
But feel free to skip O Realms readers if any of ye are at all concerned it might imply a SPOILER
In one of your interviews shortly after the launch of 4E Forgotten Realms, you talked about how Living Forgotten Realms adventures could tie into the novels and that the actions of the players could influence their later outcomes.
Would it be possible that there might be a Living Forgotten Realms adventure arc wherein the players could aid Elminster and/or his allies in their current efforts--specifically in the gathering of magic items to cure or stave off the conditions that afflict him and his lady?
More specifically, an adventure that you could be directly involved with or assist in the writing, or that might tie into future parts of the Sage of Shadowdale series? One of the reasons I suggest it for the Living Forgotten Realms (or even an adventure series in DUNGEON) is because, unlike a home campaign, the inflow of treasure and magic items is much more tightly monitored in the RPGA or a published adventure. As such, if Players were to yield some of their magical "gewjaws" or sacrifice all or part of a treasure parcel to aid the Old Sage then it would be more significant. Likewise, because the 4E system has things like story rewards as opposed to just treasure (i.e. opening new quest lines, friendship with NPC allies, etc) this could be a sort of trade off. As in the heroes aid Elminster today, and in turn it opens up future adventures where Elminster asks them to retrieve some magical cache he knows of but is "walled from his failing strength or hidden from his fading senses". Or perhaps, much later in the epic tier gain some off-screen aid from the Old Sage in some far-spread war or conflict in an adventure arc (Netheril, or the Zhentarim as an example), or possibly the chance to have him alongside them as an adventuring companion for a specific and epic battle against a certain foe or another of the Realms.
After reading the recent Hero Battle: Elminster article it has shown exactly how badly things could go if the Old Sage does fail in his efforts, and one of the themes in ELMINSTER MUST DIE is how there are too few people left who can see what needs to be done and have the will to rise to the challenge. I for one (and my characters for two) am willing to do everything possible to prevent such dire fate for the Old Sage and his loved ones...and I imagine most true Forgotten Realms players are fiercely in the same boat. Therefore I exult and implore you to please consider or perhaps take up such an endeavor, assuming such is not already in the works and you believe it may have merit. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
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Posted - 08 Aug 2010 : 17:36:22
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While we wait for Ed's return from the Great Gaming Con:
I'd check with Gomez (or GomezToo as he's known on the WotC boards). He's a big part of the Living Realms and might be able to give you an idea on future storylines. Although, with the recent announcement that the Living Realms are no longer considered canon, I doubt they still tie in with the novels or influence them. |
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gomez
Learned Scribe
Netherlands
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Posted - 08 Aug 2010 : 20:35:27
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I have no real idea of future arcs at the moment.
Hopefully, with a week or so I know whether I will stay part of LFR (as an editor), and possibly any future projects.
I can tell that in the new setup of LFR, it will generally not affect novels and such, barring 'special' projects.
Personally, I'd love to work with Ed on a series that involve Elminster (or Storm).
I just don't know if there will be possibilities. I expect it would need some legwork to arrange.
Some of the Dalelands adventures do imply that Elminster has some influence on some of the plots - not directly, but through intermediaries 'instructing' adventurers.
I agree with The Simbul: I do have some PCs (one in particular) who would aid the Old Sage and be willing to fight for the cause, and there are likely more. It is diheartening to hear that Elm doens't believe there are any of those heroes - I think it would be interesting to work on a story that would help prove (to him) that he is wrong, and that he is not alone in the fight.
If not for LFR, maybe DDI?
I hope Ed can say more on it, but I fear not...
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
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Posted - 08 Aug 2010 : 20:52:00
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| Heh... I know of a Chosen ranger of Mielikki (and Arms-Major of Myth Drannor) that would help as much as he could as well. |
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MaskedOne
Acolyte
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Posted - 09 Aug 2010 : 04:51:46
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Originally posted by Snowblood
for those of us still waiting for the novel please alert us to spoilers alerts first before posting.........
Sorry, for the late reply. Question is now hidden by spoiler tags which I should probably have done last night but it's been quite some time since providing spoilers was an issue for me. I'd have done it earlier but I can't easily test certain codes from a phone and wanted to make certain the code would work as intended. |
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