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Baleful Avatar
Learned Scribe

Canada
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Posted - 09 Jul 2010 :  02:47:21  Show Profile  Visit Baleful Avatar's Homepage Send Baleful Avatar a Private Message
Dear Ed and THO,
Could you please suggest a few noble families of Cormyr who are COVERTLY working with wealthy wannabe noble families of, say, Suzail, to trade with companies, guilds, costers, or families in Amn or Tethyr to get wealthy/wealthier?
I'm in need of some "players" in PC intrigue I want to work up for a campaign.
Thanks!
BA
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Kyrene
Senior Scribe

South Africa
648 Posts

Posted - 09 Jul 2010 :  08:45:29  Show Profile  Visit Kyrene's Homepage Send Kyrene a Private Message
Ed,

After today's "Free Realmslore," it is no longer Elminster Must Die! but rather "Elminster Must Be Mine!" And did I detect a small Pratchett homage in the description of the stale, empty room?

Oh, and a glossary question: What's a "spelldoom"?

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Brimstone
Great Reader

USA
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Posted - 09 Jul 2010 :  09:04:10  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message
One of the GREAT Realmslore quandries!

What is a Spelldoom?

Sounds kinda nasty if you ask little old me.

Maybe another version of Doctor Doom?

Doctor SpellDoom!
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Zandilar
Learned Scribe

Australia
313 Posts

Posted - 09 Jul 2010 :  13:02:19  Show Profile  Visit Zandilar's Homepage Send Zandilar a Private Message
Heya,

quote:
Originally posted by Rhewtani

I think it's the way she was portrayed in the Curse of the Azure Bonds adventure that paled my image of her. Thank you for the tidbits there that have me thinking of a better way to fit Alusair into a Pools of Darkness adventure that I'm trying to put together.



I think what you were trying to say is that Alusair somehow lost class levels between Pools of Darkness and Cure of the Azure Bonds, and therefore became less capable? Is that's what you meant by her going "down hill"?

Zandilar
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~audaces fortuna iuvat~

As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.

The Sunlord left Elversult the same day in humilitation, and was never heard from again.
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Rhewtani
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Posted - 09 Jul 2010 :  16:03:24  Show Profile  Send Rhewtani an AOL message Send Rhewtani a Private Message
Zandilar,

It certainly seemed that way, she's what - a rogue in Curse? I think it was mainly the crying in Azoun's arms and him promishing never to try and marry her off again scene. It might just be that when I played through that adventure, Alusair had been run by a PC for 5 years of real time (Curse had been moved to 1369 in that campaign) and the player had moved away. He appearance as an NPC was nothing like the her we knew and then when the player returned for a month she was back to her own gravitas.
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The Red Walker
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Posted - 09 Jul 2010 :  16:29:17  Show Profile  Send The Red Walker a Yahoo! Message Send The Red Walker a Private Message
THO/Ed,

Is Dornal Silverhand still around and kicking(as of El must die)? If so(or if not) can you share any tidbits?

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Zireael
Master of Realmslore

Poland
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Posted - 09 Jul 2010 :  18:26:49  Show Profile  Visit Zireael's Homepage Send Zireael a Private Message
The facts about Alusair are really interesting.

As for Dornal, I seem to recall he got killed some time after Elue died. Or he died of grief. Either way, he's been dead for a long time.

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

5043 Posts

Posted - 09 Jul 2010 :  22:15:05  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi, Kyrene. That MIGHT be a Pratchett homage (Terry and Ed are friends, and Ed loves Terry's writing and devours every TP release). but Ed has been writing in that style (about rooms, and chairs, and combs, and the like) since before Terry ever broke into print. It's one of my favourite "Ed-isms," though I'm sure it drives some editors nuts.

love,
THO
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Zandilar
Learned Scribe

Australia
313 Posts

Posted - 10 Jul 2010 :  09:09:55  Show Profile  Visit Zandilar's Homepage Send Zandilar a Private Message
Heya,

quote:
Originally posted by Rhewtani
It certainly seemed that way, she's what - a rogue in Curse? I think it was mainly the crying in Azoun's arms and him promishing never to try and marry her off again scene. It might just be that when I played through that adventure, Alusair had been run by a PC for 5 years of real time (Curse had been moved to 1369 in that campaign) and the player had moved away. He appearance as an NPC was nothing like the her we knew and then when the player returned for a month she was back to her own gravitas.



Just grabbed CotAB (module) off the shelf, and Alusair Nacacia is listed as being a 6th level Thief. (And having read her history as presented in the module, I expect she was biding her time until she found a way to escape, I can't see that Alusair (or even the more recent Alusair, actually) taking captivity lying down... It's just not in her nature to wait for someone to rescue her.)

Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of the Pools of Darkness module (was there one? I do have the novel somewhere, though, and I can't recall Alusair making an appearance. I probably also have the computer game as well somewhere)... But I do have another source with Alusair's stats...

In the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting She's a Fighter 7/Ranger 2/Purple Dragon Knight 2.

Yes, they are from different editions of DnD... However, her description in CotAB implies that she's good a thieving - "...found a vocation she was very good at: recovery and redistribution of wealth (theivery)." There's no way to misinterpret what that means, IMHO. Ftr/Rgr/Prp bears no similarity at all to Rogue (Thief), except maybe that hide and move silently are class skills for Rangers. (I already have an idea what Ed is going to say here...)

I'd say that this is a case of, to coin a phrase, development drift. Somewhere along the line the vision for Alusair got garbled and/or deliberately changed. Personally, I think I prefer the idea of Alusair as a warrior type rather than a rogue.

Zandilar
~amor vincit omnia~
~audaces fortuna iuvat~

As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.

The Sunlord left Elversult the same day in humilitation, and was never heard from again.
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Kyrene
Senior Scribe

South Africa
648 Posts

Posted - 10 Jul 2010 :  11:55:45  Show Profile  Visit Kyrene's Homepage Send Kyrene a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

It's one of my favourite "Ed-isms," though I'm sure it drives some editors nuts.
THO,

I personally love it. The author keeps attacking the scene from one side, setting you as reader up for what you expect to be the logical conclusion to the descriptive narrative. Only to then throw you a dramatic or humerous curveball.

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I am a sexy, shoeless god of war!

The Sellplague began, for all intents and purposes, in the dominions of the Corporation. Greed murdered Good Design, unraveling common sense in the cosmos and destroying her dominion. At the same time, Sales Fears and Warcraft Envy happened into alignment. This cataclysmic coincidence led to upheaval, shaking apart the primeval order, opening up holes in wallets, and reshaping everything...
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Menelvagor
Senior Scribe

Israel
352 Posts

Posted - 10 Jul 2010 :  19:20:39  Show Profile  Visit Menelvagor's Homepage Send Menelvagor a Private Message
Actually, Zireael, Ed recently told us that Dornal was still alive and kicking in the Realms, and that Mystra herself watched over him. Of course, that makes his fate in 4e entirely unknown... and probably NDA.

"Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.

"Yea, though he live a thousand years twice, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?" - Ecclesiastes VI, 6.

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

5043 Posts

Posted - 11 Jul 2010 :  03:21:47  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
Kyrene, according to Ed, a "spelldoom" is:


An unleashing of magic intended to bring about the deaths of multiple entities. Usually this term is used when the magics are both deadly and dangerous to handle (and so would normally not be unleashed in this manner, or so profusely, or in such a reckless way), and their wielder either doesn't expect to survive their unleashing, or doesn't care if they survive doing so.
So a wild hurling of several highly-destructive spells in a confined or crowded-with-people area would be one sort of spelldoom. So would starting a spell duel in a wild magic area, or an armory in which many easily-awakened magic items are stored.


So saith Ed. Realms linguist par excellance.
love to all,
THO
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 11 Jul 2010 :  03:24:12  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Oh, an addendum I forgot to include:
Ed has never heard of a DOCTOR Spelldoom in the Realms, Brimstone, but there WAS a wizard who earned himself the nickname "Saer Spelldoom" for his habit of starting deadly spell-brawls in public places (and slipping away from them, so that others paid the price).
love,
THO
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Brimstone
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USA
2905 Posts

Posted - 11 Jul 2010 :  05:19:41  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message
Awesome!
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Australia
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Posted - 11 Jul 2010 :  05:41:05  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Oh, an addendum I forgot to include:
Ed has never heard of a DOCTOR Spelldoom in the Realms, Brimstone, but there WAS a wizard who earned himself the nickname "Saer Spelldoom" for his habit of starting deadly spell-brawls in public places (and slipping away from them, so that others paid the price).
love,
THO

Doctor Spelldoom? That is so going in my Realms.

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Brimstone
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USA
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Menelvagor
Senior Scribe

Israel
352 Posts

Posted - 11 Jul 2010 :  07:15:54  Show Profile  Visit Menelvagor's Homepage Send Menelvagor a Private Message
Can you or Ed tell us anything more of this Saer Spelldoom, milady? He sounds like an interesting character.

"Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.

"Yea, though he live a thousand years twice, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?" - Ecclesiastes VI, 6.

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Kyrene
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South Africa
648 Posts

Posted - 11 Jul 2010 :  08:46:11  Show Profile  Visit Kyrene's Homepage Send Kyrene a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Oh, an addendum I forgot to include:
Ed has never heard of a DOCTOR Spelldoom in the Realms, Brimstone, but there WAS a wizard who earned himself the nickname "Saer Spelldoom" for his habit of starting deadly spell-brawls in public places (and slipping away from them, so that others paid the price).
love,
THO

Doctor Spelldoom? That is so going in my Realms.

And if he's known wide-and-well enough, he's becoming a reference in any joke when spells fizzle in mine.

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I am a sexy, shoeless god of war!

The Sellplague began, for all intents and purposes, in the dominions of the Corporation. Greed murdered Good Design, unraveling common sense in the cosmos and destroying her dominion. At the same time, Sales Fears and Warcraft Envy happened into alignment. This cataclysmic coincidence led to upheaval, shaking apart the primeval order, opening up holes in wallets, and reshaping everything...

Edited by - Kyrene on 11 Jul 2010 08:47:24
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Brimstone
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Limp spells?




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The Red Walker
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Posted - 11 Jul 2010 :  12:48:12  Show Profile  Send The Red Walker a Yahoo! Message Send The Red Walker a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Oh, an addendum I forgot to include:
Ed has never heard of a DOCTOR Spelldoom in the Realms, Brimstone, but there WAS a wizard who earned himself the nickname "Saer Spelldoom" for his habit of starting deadly spell-brawls in public places (and slipping away from them, so that others paid the price).
love,
THO

Doctor Spelldoom? That is so going in my Realms.



a note to any of Sage's players if they happen to read this.....

Expect Doctor Spelldoom in your game around 2014.......that SageTime is in full effect!

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Kyrene
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South Africa
648 Posts

Posted - 11 Jul 2010 :  14:06:08  Show Profile  Visit Kyrene's Homepage Send Kyrene a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

Limp spells?







Heh! Not quite Brimmy. I was think more along the lines of:
*mage's spell fizzles*
Rogue/Fighter: "Aye, a real Saer Spelldoom ye are today mage! Lackspell much?" (Yeah I know, the last is a bit of modern teenage vernacular. Sorry! )

Lost for words? Find them in the Glossary of Phrases, Sayings & Words of the Realms

I am a sexy, shoeless god of war!

The Sellplague began, for all intents and purposes, in the dominions of the Corporation. Greed murdered Good Design, unraveling common sense in the cosmos and destroying her dominion. At the same time, Sales Fears and Warcraft Envy happened into alignment. This cataclysmic coincidence led to upheaval, shaking apart the primeval order, opening up holes in wallets, and reshaping everything...
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 11 Jul 2010 :  14:58:30  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Oh, an addendum I forgot to include:
Ed has never heard of a DOCTOR Spelldoom in the Realms, Brimstone, but there WAS a wizard who earned himself the nickname "Saer Spelldoom" for his habit of starting deadly spell-brawls in public places (and slipping away from them, so that others paid the price).
love,
THO

Doctor Spelldoom? That is so going in my Realms.



a note to any of Sage's players if they happen to read this.....

Expect Doctor Spelldoom in your game around 2014.......that SageTime is in full effect!

Actually, there's probably some truth to that. More than you suspect, I'd imagine, since it will likely take me some [Sage]Time to determine just where to place this Doctor Spelldoom NPC. He's sounds too cool to be dropped just anywhere.

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 11 Jul 2010 :  15:12:29  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message
Sorry, but everytime I read Doctor Spelldoom, I have Kiss's "Doctor Love" running through my head now...

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Snowblood
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Australia
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Dear Ed & Lady THO....just a simple question but probably filled with hidden meanings....I notice that some scribes questions are answered by Ed quite smartly, whilst others seem to drift along in the ether....is there a method used to prioritise questions or is it a case of NDA...NDA...always getting in the way......???? :-)

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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 11 Jul 2010 :  16:58:39  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Snowblood

Dear Ed & Lady THO....just a simple question but probably filled with hidden meanings....I notice that some scribes questions are answered by Ed quite smartly, whilst others seem to drift along in the ether....is there a method used to prioritise questions or is it a case of NDA...NDA...always getting in the way......???? :-)



It's a case of how readily Ed can lay hands on the appropriate lore. If it's close at hand, the question gets answered, regardless of how old it is. If it's buried in a box at the back of his legendary lore-filled basement, then it doesn't get answered until he gets down there.

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