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createvmind
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Posted - 12 Apr 2010 :  18:01:13  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
Thanks, waiting patiently.
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 12 Apr 2010 :  20:31:53  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all. Ed hath returned from Ad Astra tired but happy, reinvigorated by talking with many writers, editors, and game designers there (particular highlights for him were the shared worlds panel with Aaron Allston, Eric Flint, Todd McCaffrey, and animator Robert Pincombe, and visiting with Adrienne Kress, Suzanne Church, Gabrielle Harbowy, and Michelle West again (individually, of course).
Re. this, from Zirzeael: "Greetings Mr. Greenwood, I only wanted to ask why is Alea Dahast portrayed as a warrior in your novel "Cormyr" co-written with Jeff Grubb? She is a high mage in all other sources, including C:EoE and FoMD."
Ed replies:

Ah, this confusion comes from reading "class" in the game too literally for "profession" in the "real world" of the Realms. Alea was leading a military force in the scenes we see her in, in CORMYR: A NOVEL. She was, thus, "being a warrior." A high mage is what she became in elven society; all high mages serve many roles in their communities as they proceed through life.

Ed also tells Menelvagor:

Most of your recently-posted Symrustar (and her kin) followup questions are, I'm afraid, firmly NDA'd.
Your question re. the Chosen's fates upon death attempts to derive a "general rule" answer, but sorry; Chosen are by their nature unique, and the answer is "each case is different." Some Chosen are "rescued" by this deity or that to continue to serve in another form (given another sort of life, or even resurrected as mortal). This is largely kept mysterious to other mortals, even priests of that deity.

And he adds, to all scribes:

Halaster is also a figure enshrouded in NDAs, and I'm afraid I'm going to have to remain silent on most queries regarding "what happened to him," and "why," or who he may or may not have served. Which statement should, of course, tell you all something. :}

So saith Ed. Who must run now, he tells me, to catch up on all the work that has piled up whilst he was at the convention.
love to all,
THO
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Menelvagor
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Posted - 12 Apr 2010 :  21:14:23  Show Profile  Visit Menelvagor's Homepage Send Menelvagor a Private Message
"Most of your recently-posted Symrustar (and her kin) followup questions are, I'm afraid, firmly NDA'd."
But most is not all! Does this mean that eventually (without the need for NDA's to fall), I may have answers for some of my questions?

"Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.

"Yea, though he live a thousand years twice, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?" - Ecclesiastes VI, 6.

"There are no stupid questions just a bunch of inquisitive idiots."

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Faraer
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Posted - 12 Apr 2010 :  23:10:29  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message
Talk of Maraunth Torr and Halaster reminds me: I personally try not to ask Ed to bare definite mysteries like that. For elaborations, clarifications, detail on subjects Realms-folk would know, yes, but I like my Realms with many mysterious loose ends, and while Ed will always weave new ones into his revelations, I'd suggest thinking carefully before asking him to give up too many secrets because too many potentials in his world have already been wasted or passed by -- and Ed's kindness may some days overmatch his prudence.
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 13 Apr 2010 :  16:14:59  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Very well said, Faraer! I have heard Ed and many other writers (usually at panels at various conventions) talk about the art of what should be left out of the story when writing fiction, and although this runs directly counter to the fan's lust for details (doubled in gamers, for obvious reasons of play utility), usually the writer's instincts regarding what's left unsaid SHOULD win.
Menelvagor, some of your questions (no, Ed's not going to identify which ones) will eventually get answered in future published Realmslore. Where, when, and how must also remain mysterious. So the NDAs probably won't ever get formally lifted, but will be rendered obsolete by publication. Ed will answer what he can, when he can...but right now he's busy with taxes - - and with some of the 2004 outstanding lore questions!
love,
THO
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Blueblade
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Posted - 13 Apr 2010 :  16:17:18  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Hi, THO! I had to miss Ad Astra, but I heard from a friend who did attend that you were there, and that Ed read from his forthcoming Spin A Yarn story at his author reading! Can you confirm?
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 13 Apr 2010 :  16:21:00  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all!
Yes, I was there, concealing myself behind a lot of makeup and a rather risque Steampunk burlesque costume - - but no, Ed did NOT read from the new Spin A Yarn. He'd never jeopardize WotC copyright like that! Rather, he read a few snatches of a very old Spin A Yarn tale, to illustrate how to incorporate difficult/possibly contradictory story features (because so much of those tales are features "given" to him by the seminar audience).
Ed fully intends to be at Ad Astra NEXT year - - and so do I!
love,
THO
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The Sage
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Posted - 13 Apr 2010 :  16:41:54  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi again, all!
Yes, I was there, concealing myself behind a lot of makeup and a rather risque Steampunk burlesque costume ...
Any chance for a brief description, milady? The Lady K is considering something similar for a local con later this year [she's intent on designing some or all of it herself], but has yet to find any particularly alluring costume designs on the web.

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gomez
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Posted - 13 Apr 2010 :  16:46:10  Show Profile  Visit gomez's Homepage Send gomez a Private Message
And we were so generous with our gifts last time as well.
The things you can do with pudding...
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 13 Apr 2010 :  18:34:11  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Sage, the theme was Steampunk Burlesque, and I like many others did this: button boots, petticoats with bustle gown over it (gathered up at one side to show leg), then full corset, and black silk translucent fingerless "opera gloves." On the head: a tiny bowler hat pinned askew above one temple, with a l-o-o-ong peacock feather depending from it. Oh, and a parasol and fan.
The costumes were gorgeous, but thus far on flckr and Facebook I only see last year's vastly inferior Ad Astra steampunk show. I'll alert you if I see any nice pics of the truly stunning (and far younger than moi) ladies I was strolling with...
love,
THO
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capnvan
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Posted - 13 Apr 2010 :  22:22:32  Show Profile  Visit capnvan's Homepage Send capnvan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

I'll alert you if I see any nice pics of the truly stunning (and far younger than moi) ladies I was strolling with...
love,
THO



Age, my fair lady, provides, as it does with fine wine, only improvement.

Unless the cork gets out.

Strangely, that's always when my wife smacks me.

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Jakk
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Posted - 14 Apr 2010 :  00:20:50  Show Profile Send Jakk a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

<chop>Halaster is also a figure enshrouded in NDAs, and I'm afraid I'm going to have to remain silent on most queries regarding "what happened to him," and "why," or who he may or may not have served. Which statement should, of course, tell you all something. :}
<snip>
love to all,
THO



Mmm... I really hope this spells "novel"... but if it spells "DDI article" I'll need to know when it's released so I can pay for the correct month(s)... Halaster is one of a very few subjects that will get me to buy into an online periodical... the others are Realmsian and NDA-clad as well, thirteen of which (red in hue) have been discussed at some length by myself and others, and another of whom also dwells in the vicinity of Waterdeep and goes by the name of Larloch...

quote:
Originally posted by Faraer

Talk of Maraunth Torr and Halaster reminds me: I personally try not to ask Ed to bare definite mysteries like that. For elaborations, clarifications, detail on subjects Realms-folk would know, yes, but I like my Realms with many mysterious loose ends, and while Ed will always weave new ones into his revelations, I'd suggest thinking carefully before asking him to give up too many secrets because too many potentials in his world have already been wasted or passed by -- and Ed's kindness may some days overmatch his prudence.



After some long thought on this, I agree with you, Faraer. I agreed immediately with the idea that things have been wasted (the Manshoon Wars are the pet peeve of a number of 2E fans, including myself and a certain giant space hamster), and I also think that some past things should remain mysterious in the event of future plans for the Realms changing... no further comment on that line of thought, which was deliberately ambiguously worded.

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Very well said, Faraer! I have heard Ed and many other writers (usually at panels at various conventions) talk about the art of what should be left out of the story when writing fiction, and although this runs directly counter to the fan's lust for details (doubled in gamers, for obvious reasons of play utility), usually the writer's instincts regarding what's left unsaid SHOULD win.
[snip]



I had two long paragraphs here, but it got rantish, so I gave my head a cold-water soak and started over again. Yes, gamers have a doubled lust for details (further doubled in me, because I tend to obsess about things that interest me that I don't know the answers to). What I would like to see (apart from the Cormyr Lineage and a novel or Web article about those pyramids in Ascore) is a system by which NDAs get retired as products get published or cancelled.

Okay, no more questions about Halaster (I'll try to restrain my "kid at Christmas" glee over the NDAs (which, I'll assume, are relatively new) in the hopes that something will be done with them).

I have one last question (a simple Yes or No) regarding the pyramids... er, two Yes-or-No questions (nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition except me):

1) Were the pyramids in Ascore present at the city's founding?
2) If not, were they present at any time before the fall of Mystryl and Karsus?

That's all. Oh... one other little detail... the remains of Karsus' petrified corpse are described in multiple sources as being red-hued stone... would this be the same shade of red as those pyramids?

Okay, I guess that's three... clearly, I count about as well as a red-clad Python.

Thank you again, Ed and THO, for your patience, your voice of reason, and (most of all) for being here for fans of the Realms.

Edit: OOOH! Apologies for the volume level on that exclamation, but something just jumped out at me from the pages of FR5 in the write-up on Karse. A simple Yes, No, or NDA will be absolutely wonderful as an answer to this fourth question: is that ring of 13 dire oaks in Karse connected with the 13 pyramids of Ascore in any way? I have a theory... ...although the answer is irrelevant if my third question's answer is "No"...

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.

Edited by - Jakk on 14 Apr 2010 02:45:55
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gomez
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Posted - 14 Apr 2010 :  12:15:15  Show Profile  Visit gomez's Homepage Send gomez a Private Message
Ed in the WotC Book Nook:

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.aspx?x=dnd/4dnd/booknook

It's about the Ed presents Waterdeep series.

Edited by - gomez on 14 Apr 2010 12:26:08
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 14 Apr 2010 :  13:17:20  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message
Well, it's that time of the year again, and the scribes of Candlekeep are murmuring amongst themselves about the grand gathering in Indianapolis, comparing cards and sharing plans. Which means it's a perfect time to ask whether Ed is planning to go to GenCon, and if so, what his schedule is looking like at this point.

Doggedly converting 3e back to what D&D should be...
Sigh... And now 4e as well.
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khorne
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Posted - 14 Apr 2010 :  15:20:06  Show Profile  Visit khorne's Homepage  Click to see khorne's MSN Messenger address Send khorne a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Hoondatha

Well, it's that time of the year again, and the scribes of Candlekeep are murmuring amongst themselves about the grand gathering in Indianapolis, comparing cards and sharing plans. Which means it's a perfect time to ask whether Ed is planning to go to GenCon, and if so, what his schedule is looking like at this point.

And it's the time of year when I look at the map and curse, for I live in Finland, so there is no way I could come to Gencon and meet Ed.

...Has Ed ever been to a con or something similar in northern Europe?

If I were a ranger, I would pick NDA for my favorite enemy
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 14 Apr 2010 :  15:53:07  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.

khorne, in answer to your question: Stockholm and Goteburg, in Sweden; London and several small places in England, Hannover in Germany, and a few more I can't recall at the moment...

Hoondatha, Ed certainly plans to be there (to launch ELMINSTER MUST DIE! as well as other things). As for schedule, it's way too early to say anything yet; yes, Wizards has contacted him for this year, but in some years they've been changing and rearranging literally AS ED DRIVES DOWN to Indy!

gomez, that interview is from last year's GenCon. Did it take THIS long to show up on the website? Sheesh, as Ed would say...

Jakk, here are a few answers, straight from Ed:

Question 1: No.
Question 2: No comment.
Question 3: Don't think so.
"Question 4" followup edit: I think so...yes...


Evil glee at the thought of your reactions, Jakk (sorry, I mustn't be cruel...)
love to all,
THO
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gomez
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Netherlands
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Posted - 14 Apr 2010 :  16:46:46  Show Profile  Visit gomez's Homepage Send gomez a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

gomez, that interview is from last year's GenCon. Did it take THIS long to show up on the website?



Apparently. I did get suspicious when the interviewer said Gencon had worn him out...
Ah well, maybe next time this year, we'll get the vid of Ed promoting Elminster Must Die... :D

Oh, and I won't be in Gencon this year (also stuck in Europe). I hope next year.

Gomez


Edited by - gomez on 14 Apr 2010 16:49:31
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

I'll alert you if I see any nice pics of the truly stunning (and far younger than moi) ladies I was strolling with...
Neat. And thanks.

I'll have to remind the Lady K also, then, because she'll probably want to look them over.

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Jakk
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi again, all.
<chop>
Jakk, here are a few answers, straight from Ed:

Question 1: No.
Question 2: No comment.
Question 3: Don't think so.
"Question 4" followup edit: I think so...yes...


Evil glee at the thought of your reactions, Jakk (sorry, I mustn't be cruel...)
love to all,
THO



Evil glee returned, THO... I have no idea "who" or "why" yet, but I have the beginnings of a "what"... I need to re-read the old lore in more detail. However, if I were to speculate right now, I would quote Wooly Rupert on Larloch; I suspect that what those pyramids are doing is containing something... hence the overwhelming radiant evil emanating therefrom... and as it turns out, my "Question 3" is irrelevant. That's Speculation #1.

My original theory (that the pyramids were constructed from stone quarried from the petrified giant body of Karsus) was neat, too. Thinking about it, even a stone corpse that size wouldn't have enough stone to build thirteen pyramids... is the size of those pyramids under NDA? I don't remember seeing anything about how big they are in published lore. (Size of pyramids; Question #2.)

I'm fairly confident (based on the relatively recent arrival of the pyramids) that they have nothing to do with the Shadevari (one of two other big "13"s I can think of, the other being the Skulls of Skullport, which I'm equally sure is another coincidence).

Many, many thanks for those answers, Ed, as cryptic as they were; they got my wheels turning and that's always a good thing. Now, of course, I'm wondering about those dire oaks, because I honestly had not expected a connection there... FR5 is somewhat lacking in details on this point, so is there anything you can share with us regarding that species of flora in general? (Question #3 and final.)

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.
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sfdragon
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yeah... I actually have a question, although this may be a bad thing.....
what part of the realms did each of the creator races haven and what are the areas called now???


why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power


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Brace Cormaeril
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One


Yes, I was there, concealing myself behind a lot of makeup and a rather risque Steampunk burlesque costume - -
love,
THO



Are you pictured http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Bzwh4ecQCBQ/S8XeCqehngI/AAAAAAAAA2o/30nLyobRppM/s1600/aa2010steamsalon.jpg, by any chance?

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quote:
Originally posted by Brace Cormaeril

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One


Yes, I was there, concealing myself behind a lot of makeup and a rather risque Steampunk burlesque costume - -
love,
THO



Are you pictured http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Bzwh4ecQCBQ/S8XeCqehngI/AAAAAAAAA2o/30nLyobRppM/s1600/aa2010steamsalon.jpg, by any chance?



She's the one in the top hat by the right side of the picture.



Edit: Just to be clear, I'm referring to the person that cannot be seen at ALL behind the other lovely lady in the burgandy waistcoat (next to the gentleman with glasses).

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Brimstone
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I am offically smitten!

Looked like a fun time...

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words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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The Hooded One
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Heh. No, not only am I not in the picture, but the only one of those folks I recall seeing is the lady back row near the middle with the tiny hat pinned atop her head (bare shoulders, corset). Most of the costumes I recall seeing were FAR more impressive than those in the illo...one example: tall, thin, haughtily handsome man with top hat, handlebar moustache, his right eye covered with a strapped-on steampunk metal magnifier, the left breast of his tailcoat sporting a disc that continuously shot bright purple lightnings across itself...he had a magnificent waistcoat with watch and fob, riding boots AND matching spats, and a steampunk multibarreled rifle with glowing green scope.
Another: man with muttonchop sidewhiskers, top hat, monacle on ribbon, hunting jacket, forearm-bracer steampunk metal power gauntlet with various attachments (including the inevitable china saucer and teacup, with a whistle-kettle), gold-handled ebony walking-stick/swordcane, gauntlet with spitting-lightning glass "test tubes" attached to its knuckles on other hand, small monkey on shoulder (one of those animated toys whose head and arms can be moved by squeezing air-tube bulbs), red-and-black striped waistcoat, gold spats over black leather square-toed shoes, tailored breeches.
And don't get me started on the ladies...
love,
THO
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Brimstone
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I am still smitten gosh darn it!

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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