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Faraer
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Posted - 07 Apr 2010 :  23:47:21  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message
That humour is a big part of the Realms: there's too much oversolemn Realms work that jarringly lacks it.

The Weave is both the web of magical and natural energy-flows and threads that suffuses Toril -- seen, to name just one instance, in "Bloodbound" -- and the lore and practice of drawing on it. (I think Ed's statements here suggesting that it's only the latter are therefore partial, and the idea of the Weave vanishing and Faerűn being kinda OK is nonsense.) Although not identical to Toril's Weave, we've seen that other worlds like Oerth and Earth have energy patterns similar enough that Art learned in Faerűn can make magic with them.

(noun: 'canon'; adjective: 'canonical'; noun-form of adjective: 'canonicity'; none of which have much to do, by my lights, with the Realms)
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sfdragon
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Did the Wemics, loxxo and the tri kreen that lived in the south survive the palgue??? and where do both species call home now?

why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power


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wintermute27
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Posted - 08 Apr 2010 :  03:20:15  Show Profile  Visit wintermute27's Homepage Send wintermute27 a Private Message
Hello THO, et al. I'm a long time reader, first time writer in this thread.

I was wondering if you could provide any information about the village of Gray Oaks in Cormyr prior to the Time of Troubles. I'm running a game set in Cormyr in 1356 and one of my players is considering having his halfling character be from there. Any interesting tidbits you could share would be much appreciated.

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 08 Apr 2010 :  15:52:35  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all. Re. this, from createvmind: "Are there any infamous "ressurection men/ bodysnatchers" on the Sword Coast in early 1370's, say in Scornubel, Soubar regions.
Can you tell us of any unique "experimemt creature/construct/mutations wandering anywhere in same areas below or above ground during same time period? I'm thinking many a spell caster tried to augment other beings to make them resistant to magic, able to reflect all magic hurled at them and met with failure 90+% of the time. Did you have any such creatures in your home games? Constructs seems to be most successful in making them proof against magic, I still hope you have tidbits of unique constructs."

Ed's very busy right now taking care of all sorts of mundane demands before he takes off for Ad Astra (the annual sf/fantasy convention in Toronto, Canada, this Friday through Sunday, where he'll be on panels, be signing autographs, wandering about chatting, and doing a reading), but I can START to answer this question by reference to the experiences of the players of the Knights in Ed's "home" Realms campaign.

Yes, there are lots of bodysnatchers active in the Realms wherever lawkeeping is corrupt, lax, or just inadequate, AND there's a market for bodies (those exerimenting in necromancy and the creation of constructs). In the 1350s through 1370s in the Realms, important locations for this are: Lashan, Waterdeep (VERY secretive and careful, but happening, using Undermountain and Skullport), Scornubel, Westgate, Tantras, Telflamm, Myratma, Unthalass, and all small settlements within reach of Thay. It also happens from time to time everywhere, as those working for individual priests and necromancers "snatch" bodies, or even living foes or criminals, of select individuals.
Yes, there were lots of guardian constructs in our home games, but (aside from crawling claws and the like) not so many "wandering" ones. Many of Ed's construct undead and automatons/constructs have appeared in the official rules of various editions of the D&D/AD&D game, probably far more than most gamers think or remember were Ed's work. Yes, we fought lots of unique constructs, often flying talking skulls or flying, talking masks - - and yes, in Scornubel, there was at least one successful golem maker.
We'll no doubt learn a lot more when Ed has time to answer these questions properly, of course. He'll probably fall e-silent during the con, because he doesn't check e-mail or tweet or gon online when at cons; he actually attends the cons and devotes his attention to what's going on there. I MAY also fall silent, because once again I'm going to try to drop in on Ed at Ad Astra and have a visit, though I'm far from Toronto right now.
For those who do want to attend: the hotel off Wynford Drive, occupying the NE corner of where the Don Valley Parkway crosses over Eglinton Avenue East. Canada's longest-running fantasy and sf con, lots of important writers attending, look at: www.ad-astra.org if you're interested.
love to all,
THO
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 08 Apr 2010 :  16:02:52  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Oh, and Menelvagor: Ed's Wizards Three articles have been superceded by later editions of the game ("outdating" both some of the spells and the formats they were written in), but they have ALWAYS been considered canon. They were written at the request of TSR, who wanted something in print to "link together" all of their "big fantasy setting 'worlds'" and keep up fan interest in them, they were dovetailed with what was "going on" in the internal histories (and publication schedules) of those worlds, and for the Realms they of course fall under the "if Ed writes or says it, it's canon until superceded by later official Realms products" rule that governs the Realms. (And to those, either fans or publishers' staff or spokespersons, who disagree with that definition of Realms canon: sorry, you're stuck with it. It's the condition under which anyone outside of Ed and players in his home campaign or friends who read his unpublished fiction got to see the Forgotten Realms at all, and can't be changed by the opinions of others, unless Ed agrees to it.)
As Faraer correctly points out, a humourous tone has nothing at all to do with whether or not something is canon. (Yes, that argument has been raised several times about the Spin A Yarn tales - - but they, too, are canon unless or until contradicted or declared "didn't happen" or "didn't happen like that" in print, officially.) Humour is an integral, vital part of the Realms.
love,
THO
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Alisttair
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Posted - 08 Apr 2010 :  16:08:16  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage  Click to see Alisttair's MSN Messenger address Send Alisttair a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi, Ashe. Give me ten minutes or so to hack into Facebook (for some reason, it's blocked from the computer I'm at now . . . and Ed tells me he can't access it right now, either (the log-in page just freezes). I'll get back to you.
Ahhh, advanced technology...more like magic than ever.
love,
THO



You must be in a school or a library...

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 08 Apr 2010 :  17:50:28  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
No, Alisttair, it wasn't that sort of blocking. It was a temporary (and still mysterious, though I suspect a third-party tech support company, doing maintenance work that "froze out" some datastreams for short periods as they tinkered) ISP source-code block, not the sort of primitive filtering programs schools and libraries use. Those sort of "public" terminals are shunned like the plague by individuals in my line of work.
Ed, now, DOES work at a public library, and chairs the board of another library system...but you'll be unsurprised to learn that he's a tad too busy to be Facebooking at work, even if it wasn't a misuse of his paid work time. Running the circ desk at a public library is very similar to being the lone cashier at a very busy supermarket.
I doubt Ed has the skills to hack into Facebook, or any interest in doing so, and I'd have a hard time doing it from a public terminal (because most of the settings I'd have to monkey with are usually on a server elsewhere, and "locked" to prevent such tamperings over a network). What I did was tap into another ISP (that I have legal, paid access to) and "get around" the temporary blockage. Just like finding a street blocked and turning down a side street to take an alternative route.
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THO
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Menelvagor
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Posted - 08 Apr 2010 :  18:21:51  Show Profile  Visit Menelvagor's Homepage Send Menelvagor a Private Message
So how were they superceded by later editions of the game? Declared completely un-canon, or something else?

"Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.

"Yea, though he live a thousand years twice, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?" - Ecclesiastes VI, 6.

"There are no stupid questions – just a bunch of inquisitive idiots."

"Let's not call it 'hijacking'. Let's call it 'Thread Drift'."
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Nicolai Withander
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Posted - 08 Apr 2010 :  22:08:26  Show Profile Send Nicolai Withander a Private Message
Hello...

This is more a question for THO than Ed, and it might have been answered a million times. Now I know you THO wont tell us about your character you play, even thou im pretty sure I could guess whome you do/did play.

My question is this... How many of the characers played at Ed's sessions have become NPCs in novels and in scource books. I mean could I unknowingly bump into your character in shadowdale???

If this is the 100000 time this have been asked im sorry!
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 09 Apr 2010 :  00:08:03  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Nicolai Withander

Now I know you THO wont tell us about your character you play, even thou im pretty sure I could guess whome you do/did play.



I should like to ask that we honor the lovely Lady Hooded One's need for discretion on this particular topic, and not publicly guess or speculate on it. It's better all around if we keep any such speculations to ourselves.

Not singling out Nic or anyone else -- just sayin'.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Nicolai Withander

Now I know you THO wont tell us about your character you play, even thou im pretty sure I could guess whome you do/did play.



I should like to ask that we honor the lovely Lady Hooded One's need for discretion on this particular topic, and not publicly guess or speculate on it. It's better all around if we keep any such speculations to ourselves.

Not singling out Nic or anyone else -- just sayin'.

Indeed. As I stated a few pages earlier, about similar speculation on the part of scribes here at Candlekeep:-
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

As you likely already know from previous editions of the "Questions for Ed Greenwood" scroll, this is the type of question that the Lady Hooded One can't really answer to any specific degree. There's just certain details that would have to remain vague and/or ignored to ensure privacy issues and avoid any legal complications that might arise from the revealing of such info.

Your best best, is to simply search through the "So Saith Ed" archives and read the few replies from the Lady Hooded One herself that feature a small sampling of tidbits about some of her adventures at Ed's gaming table.

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Malcolm
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Posted - 09 Apr 2010 :  03:05:11  Show Profile  Visit Malcolm's Homepage Send Malcolm a Private Message
Uh, Menelvagor, THO told you how they were superceded. She posted: "Ed's Wizards Three articles have been superceded by later editions of the game ("outdating" both some of the spells and the formats they were written in), but they have ALWAYS been considered canon."
So I suppose "something else" would be your answer.
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Menelvagor
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Posted - 09 Apr 2010 :  06:37:19  Show Profile  Visit Menelvagor's Homepage Send Menelvagor a Private Message
Sorry, I wasn't very clear. My meaning was, if it was indeed 'something else', what was it exactly?

"Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.

"Yea, though he live a thousand years twice, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?" - Ecclesiastes VI, 6.

"There are no stupid questions – just a bunch of inquisitive idiots."

"Let's not call it 'hijacking'. Let's call it 'Thread Drift'."

Edited by - Menelvagor on 09 Apr 2010 16:33:12
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Nicolai Withander
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I woul like to say that im not going to guess anything, I totally respect her wishes on that part! I hope thou that the rest of my question is ok to ask and that she will aswer it. If not I respect that aswell!
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 09 Apr 2010 :  23:45:06  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Nicolai Withander

I woul like to say that im not going to guess anything, I totally respect her wishes on that part! I hope thou that the rest of my question is ok to ask and that she will aswer it. If not I respect that aswell!



No worries. I was only quoting you because you'd mentioned it.

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Jakk
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

No, he'd not be done yet.
Gauntulgrym was, of course, an Ed creation, and appeared on Ed's original maps of the Sword Coast North, the Fonstad FR Atlas, and the relevant early "FR" products. Although both the Company of Crazed Venturers and the Knights of Myth Drannor (briefly) visited that complex of underground city/dungeon/labyrinth/linked caverns beneath (as did players in Ed's for-charity D&D tournament at GenCon 20), Ed purposely kept lore about Gauntulgrym - - which exists in his pencil notes and maps as a huge mapped (but not completely mapped; Ed stopped after about 70 8.5"x11" grid graph paper sheets) place - - spotty and sparse, to give everyone else using the Realms maximum freedom.
The "original" Edlore history of Gauntulgrym mentioned linked natural caverns, formerly water-filled (and created) but later left dry as the rock-cleaving waters descended into lower levels, and at least three separate times of inhabitation and tunneling by dwarves, et al (not to mention a DRAGON lairing in a mountaintop cavern above most of the rest of it). At least two of those periods of habitation produced extensive networks of chambers with stone doors both obvious and hidden, many halls and passages, etc.
In other words, allowing for maximum utility and freedom for DMs, writers, and game designers. Check out Ed's unedited prose wherever you can, and you'll see that Ed is a master of "weasel-wording" (e.g. "it is thought that" rather than bald statements of fact) that allow for different interpretations to easily be made without introducing inconsistencies.
In short, Bob should be free to have fun and tell a great tale.
love to all,
THO



I found this (recent) post in a scroll regarding Bob Salvatore's upcoming novel in the Novels archives, and I'm still puzzling over the location of Gauntlgrym; I don't have my copy of the FR Atlas with me (it's among the scads of 1E and 2E material still in storage 4 hours away by highway), but I do have the vast majority of my 1E and 2E maps from the gaming products handy... and I couldn't find Gauntlgrym on those maps. There is a location in the North on those early published maps that has always interested me, however: a ruin marked only as "Gate".

My question is twofold: a more precise location for Gauntlgrym from whomever can provide it first (I'm all for lessening Ed's workload when possible), and anything more that can be said (by Ed or anyone else in the know) about this mysterious "Gate". Again, many thanks to Ed, THO, the moderators, and my fellow scribes, all of whom make Candlekeep a place I still enjoy returning to, even after the upheavals (which shall remain nameless and otherwise unreferenced) of the last two years.

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.

Edited by - Jakk on 10 Apr 2010 01:37:22
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Nicolai Withander

I woul like to say that im not going to guess anything, I totally respect her wishes on that part! I hope thou that the rest of my question is ok to ask and that she will aswer it. If not I respect that aswell!

That's fine. I'm sure the Lady Hooded One will know what she can, ultimately, answer and not answer with respect to your query.

There's no harm in asking, of course. It just pays to be aware of certain legalities when posing these types of queries.

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Kyrene
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quote:
Originally posted by Jakk

My question is twofold: a more precise location for Gauntlgrym from whomever can provide it first (I'm all for lessening Ed's workload when possible), and anything more that can be said (by Ed or anyone else in the know) about this mysterious "Gate".

Jakk,

I answered your first question (in part) back on page 16 of this thread already:
quote:
Originally posted by Kyrene

For Gauntlgrym's location, I used The North as source. You may want to have a look, as it's both on the maps in the back of that and I seem to recall something written about it too.

I can confirm that there are various references throughout that book, as well as a short writeup on page 38. The location is also marked on the maps in the back.

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Jakk
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Thanks, Kyrene. I thought I'd seen something else recent regarding Gauntlgrym, but then I couldn't find it. I'm just appalled at myself for asking the same question twice.

I'll be searching the site more thoroughly before I post my next question; I suspect it's already in Ed's question queue, as it seems familiar.

Edit: I remember that page now... I'm still pondering the Dragoncursed Crown, and wishing I had more of my older lore close to hand.

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.

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Jakk
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Okay... the Keep has been thoroughly scoured, and I can find no trace of this set of questions after their original asking and extremely limited answering back in 2004.

I was sure that I asked about this before (I've lost track of some of my earlier questions whose answers are either [NDA] or buried so deeply in Ed's basement that he hasn't found them yet), but I can't find anything in the "Questions for Ed" archives with either Google or CK Search, so maybe it was something I left off my list. In any case, my apologies if I'm repeating myself *again*... but I'm wondering if there have been any developments (specifically, loosening of NDAs) in the five and a half years since this original post from Ed's 2004 scroll, particularly in light of the (canonical) death of Halaster. On which note: I won't ask why Halaster's soul shards are being collected; this is *definitely* NDA, unless something's already been published in DDI, and it doesn't affect my Realms in the slightest, being as Halaster is alive and well in that reality.

Many thanks in advance to you both, Ed and THO!

quote:
Originally posted by Melfius
6 October 2004


<chop; questions reposted with answers in THO's posts below>


quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
8 October 2004


Melfius, I bring you the rather frisky (and incomplete; see hereafter) replies of Ed, as follows:

1. What is the name of the seventh apprentice? Was it Ezzat as detailed in the Ruins of Undermountain II? Or is Nandel Greenward? Hmmm. That makes eight. I hate mysteries.
[NDA]
2. Do any of the aforementioned apprentices have last names?
Yes, but they’ve not been remembered by, or are not known to, our Realms sources consulted thus far. Perhaps they’ll be revealed in the fullness of [NDA]
3. Has there been documented anywhere any descendants of any apprentices?
No. However, that doesn’t mean no offspring exist. In fact, [NDA]
4. Did Halaster begin holding the MageFairs on his own, or was he working with a group?
Halaster thought he was establishing MageFairs on his own, but in fact more than one deity of magic was whispering subtle suggestions in more than one mortal ear to bring it about. Otherwise, given the paranoid nature of most mages, it’s likely the MageFairs would never have been more than Halaster waiting in some tranquil, remote locale for one or two mages to show up (and the Fairs would have ended the moment one arriving mage attacked, or was attacked by, another). As for who these deities and other mortals were, specifically, I’d have to say [NDA]
5. At what point did Halaster decide to change his name from Hilather?
[NDA]
6. Where/When was Halaster born?
A long time ago, specifically [NDA] in [NDA]
7. What changes have been made to Halaster since Elminster in Hell? (i.e. Is he sane now?)
Like any long-lived mage, Halaster isn’t what most other mortals would call ‘normal,’ and never will be. However, Mystra did some major mental healing (that also involved binding Halaster more closely to her service), ‘offstage’ in the latter part of ELMINSTER IN HELL and thereafter. Halaster did NOT become a Chosen, but reached a ‘separate peace’ with her in return for serving her as an agent (in the events recounted in ELMINSTER IN HELL). He still has his ‘raving times,’ but they’re fewer, shorter, and less severe than before (i.e. he’s far more in touch with reality, and more cunning and less reckless whilst in the throes of them); most of the time he’s in complete control of himself - - and this is no longer governed by his location (in Undermountain or outside of it). That doesn’t mean he’s a ‘happy camper.’ For one thing, he’s both enraged and ashamed at how many years he’s wasted ‘drifting’ in sub-sanity, and is just climbing out of considering himself an utter failure and a rot-fungus on the face of Faerun and into deciding what he’ll devote the rest of his life to. Consider him a magical whirlwind that’s stopped spinning and is poised to decide what to do next. Tremble, Faerun, tremble.
8. When Halster claimed to have been touched by Shar, does this mean he has access to the Shadow Weave?
Halaster HAD access to the Shadow Weave; much of his madness was due to Shar’s whisperings (attempts to mind-control him), which is specifically what he meant by her ‘touch.’ Shar’s influence gave him access to the Shadow Weave, but Halaster’s aged, busy, brilliantly-magic-creative mind couldn’t simultaneously handle mastery of both Weave and Shadow Weave, and so he was losing his sanity (and only thereby keeping Shar at bay: she couldn’t control a mind in such internal chaos). Mystra in effect thrust Shar out (in any contest of pure magic and of mortal mastery of magic, in which Mystra and Shar can exert equal forces against each other, Mystra will always win, because she IS magic, and has supremacy) of Halaster’s mind, banishing all traces of the Shadow Weave forever. What she left behind makes Halaster one of the few mortals whom Shar can never subvert, now. She can break his mind and his body, but not corrupt and come to control him. (In other words, he’s equal to a Chosen of Mystra in this regard. The Chosen who’ve failed Mystra in the past have lost their sanity and ‘fallen away from her love,’ and so become corruptible.)
9. Are there any anecdotes about any of your gaming groups’ encounters with Halaster?
Yes. :} :} :}
Oh, ALL right: I'll unleash THO to answer this when she can (I know she's very busy this weekend), and at that time return with some feeble attempts to answer your other three questions, too.
Ed

So saith the Master. Gawds, Halaster [shudder]! You WOULD have to make me relive those disasters, wouldn't you?
THO


quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
12 October 2004


Hello, all.
<chop>
10. Where/When did Halaster begin training his apprentices?
A long time ago, specifically [NDA], in a [NDA] far, far away, a ragtag [NDA]
11. Who trained Halaster?
My reply: [MAJOR NDA MAJOR NDA MAJOR NDA ASSUME CONTROL ASSUME CONTROL]
Ahem. It will probably come as no surprise to you to learn that my answers to 12 (What would Halaster’s alignment have been a) when he began training his apprentices b) when he created Halaster’s Hold?) must also be the grim silence of the NDA fortress wall. (Sorry. I am, truly.)



<sigh>... another example of a perfectly serviceable villain removed from the canon Realms for the sake of change. (Actually, I have a deeper theory on this, but I'll keep it to myself to avoid a CK CoC-endangering rant.) I'll assume that because of the ongoing efforts to gather Halaster's soul-shards, there won't be many NDAs lifted here... but publications over the last five and a half years, such as Expedition to Undermountain, will hopefully release some answers for us.

I have other questions, but they're based on my speculations earlier in this scroll that (due to NDAs) you could not comment on except to hint that I'm on the right track. That being said, I won't ask those questions at this time.

Thanks again to you both, Ed and THO, and my apologies for the "quote bloat" of this post. I eagerly await anything new you can tell me about the Mad Mage.

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.

Edited by - Jakk on 11 Apr 2010 00:54:44
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Menelvagor
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A question that came to me by thinking of Blackstaff and Ascendancy of the Last: What happens to souls of Chosen? Are they claimed by their gods? If so, do the gods respect the private wishes of the souls? Because Khelben got ot go to Arvandor, despite being a Chosen of Mystra. And what happens to the Chosen of two gods, such as Qilue (had she not died the way she did)? Do the gods 'duke it out', or let the soul choose?
EDIT: Another quesiton I suddenly thought of: What did Symrustar do in the 20 years from her madness and disappearence to her reappearence and rebirth as a Chosen?

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Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.

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Zireael
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Greetings Mr. Greenwood,
I only wanted to ask why is Alea Dahast potrayed as a warrior in your novel "Cormyr" co-written with Jeff Grubb? She is a high mage in all other sources, including C:EoE and FoMD...
Maybe Mr. Grubb could answer this question too...
Thanks in advance,
Zireael

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quote:
Originally posted by Jakk


quote:
Originally posted by Melfius
6 October 2004


<chop; questions reposted with answers in THO's posts below>


quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
8 October 2004


Melfius, I bring you the rather frisky (and incomplete; see hereafter) replies of Ed, as follows:

1. What is the name of the seventh apprentice? Was it Ezzat as detailed in the Ruins of Undermountain II? Or is Nandel Greenward? Hmmm. That makes eight. I hate mysteries.
[NDA]
2. Do any of the aforementioned apprentices have last names?
Yes, but they’ve not been remembered by, or are not known to, our Realms sources consulted thus far. Perhaps they’ll be revealed in the fullness of [NDA]
5. At what point did Halaster decide to change his name from Hilather?
[NDA]
6. Where/When was Halaster born?
A long time ago, specifically [NDA] in [NDA]


quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
12 October 2004


Hello, all.
<chop>
10. Where/When did Halaster begin training his apprentices?
A long time ago, specifically [NDA], in a [NDA] far, far away, a ragtag [NDA]
11. Who trained Halaster?
My reply: [MAJOR NDA MAJOR NDA MAJOR NDA ASSUME CONTROL ASSUME CONTROL]
Ahem. It will probably come as no surprise to you to learn that my answers to 12 (What would Halaster’s alignment have been a) when he began training his apprentices b) when he created Halaster’s Hold?) must also be the grim silence of the NDA fortress wall. (Sorry. I am, truly.)




Of course, I'm not the Greenwood, nor THO, but weren't some of the questions above answered in GHotR (although I think that in 2004, these were still NDA'd)?

1. Halaster's roster of seven apprentices is listed under the entry for 307 DR: "Arcturia, Jhesiyra Kestellharp, Muiral the Misshapen, Nester, Marambra Nyghtsteel, Rantantar, and Trobriand the Metal Mage." Not sure which one was the missing "seventh", but it seems to be neither of the ones listed by Melfius.
2. A couple have their last name listed although (and I will be sufficiently presumptuous to channel Big Ed / THO here): "Just because they are not mentioned does not mean they do not have any..."
5. When he arose from his temporal statis in 128 DR, he was still going by Hilather; when he established his tower on the site of Waterdeep (168 DR), he apparently introduced himself as Halaster Blackcloak. I would guess that he changed his name when he decided to set up shop over the old Sargauth Enclave's site, in order to hide his links with the Shoon empire (I am guessing that he completely wanted to obscure his Imaskari roots).
6. Hilather was Imaskari, and therefore presumably was born there, some time prior to the fall of the Imaskari empire, as he's noted as entering a temporal stasis in -2488 DR. I presume he must already have been quite old / experienced at the time, as the entry describes him as one of the Lord Artificers (and I presume in Imaskar you don't carry the title without the moxie to back it up).
10. Presumably after 128 DR ("Ah, wakey, wakey. How long have I been asleep?") and 307 DR (first mention in GHotR of the apprentices). I say "presumably", because I assume that the apprentices did not go into stasis with him at the fall of the Imaskari empire.
12 b) - Since his post-stasis CV, prior to setting up Halaster's Hold, included working for the Shoon empire, helping them to improve their demon-binding repertoire, one could speculate that in canon he was already CE when he set up Halaster's Hold. Although personally I would find that a bit simple (or even simplistic...).

Ah, Halaster... One of my favourite characters in FR, along with that other Waterdhavian archmage, Khelben (now both RIP).

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Edited by - Thauramarth on 12 Apr 2010 15:45:03
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Menelvagor
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Another question, coming from re-reading Elminster in Myth Drannor, which I'm doing in order to expang my campaign:
What was the eventual fate of Amaranthae Auglamyr, Symrustar's cousin and High Court Mage Earynspieir? It appeared she was enamoured of High Court Mage Earynspieir, and he of her, but there is no information in Cormanthyr or Fall of Myth Drannor regarding their fates - although it is mentioned that Earynspieir learned/taught in Windsong Tower.
Also, regardign Syrumstar's symbol it says in Elminster In Myth Drannor: "upon the ravaged flesh beneath traced the first golden symbol Mystra had put in his mind; the one that would shine there forever." Why is it that the tatto on Syrumstar's stomach stays in Elmisnter's mind forever? Does this have any significance or use?

"Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.

"Yea, though he live a thousand years twice, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?" - Ecclesiastes VI, 6.

"There are no stupid questions – just a bunch of inquisitive idiots."

"Let's not call it 'hijacking'. Let's call it 'Thread Drift'."

Edited by - Menelvagor on 12 Apr 2010 14:20:30
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Kajehase
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From Cloak of Shadows:

"Sharantyr shivered again, recalling days of pain and humiliation, and nights of eerie terror, as the glowing, gelatinous fungi had crept slowly down the stone walls where she lay chained by the throat to a huge ring in the wall, bedded on hard, sharp human skulls, and flowed over her, their translucent pseudopods covering her with glistening slime as they lapped at her wounds and body openings, healing and cleansing her, absorbing her wastes and blood and energy alike, leaving her too weak to work toward any escape."

Could Ed tell us some more about this, rather icky but useful, fungi?

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