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Tormtar
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Posted - 05 Apr 2010 :  11:16:33  Show Profile  Visit Tormtar's Homepage Send Tormtar a Private Message
Dear Ed and Lady Hooded, would it be possible to give any identities of recent (c. 1370s) rangers who have been named Leaders of the Hunt, as mentioned on p. 48 of Magic of Faerun? Many thanks.
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 05 Apr 2010 :  15:22:49  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
saethone, rest assured your question is in Ed's hands, and he's currently investigating just how much HIS NDAs allow him to tell you, by way of an answer.
As for players' NDAs: back in 1986, when TSR wanted to purchase the Realms, all of Ed's then-current players were asked to sign release forms and accept one US dollar (which Ed paid on behalf of TSR, BTW!) for all rights to "their" characters (almost all of whom Ed had created [names, stats and back stories], but which the players were of course "writing the rest of the histories of" through play). If anyone refused, their character just wouldn't ever be mentioned in the published Realms (no one did).
Since then, at "pick up" games and when Ed's running charity tournament events, no NDAs are required or asked for (if Ed's playtesting something or using not-yet-published "to become official" lore, he would never tell - - but most of the time he re-uses "old favourite" PCs he created years ago, for play sessions done "just for fun"). In the early days of the published Realms, he used to draw portraits of the PCs, frame them, and present them as mementoes to the players.
Rest assured that Ed is well aware of the huge stack of not-yet-fully-answered queries, some of which (as Sage mentioned) date back to the early months of 2004, and intends to answer them all, when and if he can. When he can do so speedily, he does, just to keep them from joining that stack (which is how saethone was able to see that most recent ones had been answered or at least acknowledged)!
Hang in there, fellow scribes. Ed is on the job. And writing new "future official" lore as fast as he can, too. Me, I'm increasingly hungry for the new novels...
love to all,
THO
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sfdragon
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Posted - 05 Apr 2010 :  20:37:32  Show Profile Send sfdragon a Private Message
since 2004??? please tell Ed MAster of the Greenwood, that you heard my jaw hit my pc table, and then the floor.

If it hasnt been asked, and only out of my curiosity, but what does each faith of the REalms call their temples??

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Posted - 05 Apr 2010 :  22:21:15  Show Profile Send Elfinblade a Private Message
quote:
Me, I'm increasingly hungry for the new novels...


Speaking of which, any new teasers from El must die? :)
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Milith holder of HB8
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Posted - 05 Apr 2010 :  22:37:58  Show Profile  Visit Milith holder of HB8's Homepage Send Milith holder of HB8 a Private Message
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Originally posted by sfdragon

since 2004??? please tell Ed MAster of the Greenwood, that you heard my jaw hit my pc table, and then the floor.

If it hasnt been asked, and only out of my curiosity, but what does each faith of the REalms call their temples??



...um, temples?

Or do you mean specific templese? Most people from medival times just refered to them as temples and this has probably carried over. Sure, you probably have a few churchs and the like, but all in all, they're probably the same name.

Now, you might be refering to the specific names, in which case it's probably names after a person of great importance, someone who funded the building of the temple, or even a place of importance/location of the temple.

For example, if Lord Nasher helped fund a temple of Torm, it might be called Nasher's Temple of Torm. Or in another case, it might be named after someone who holds great influence or importance in the realms, such as Elminster's Temple of Mystra. And of course, you could always encounter a The Waterdeep Temple of Lathander.

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saethone
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Posted - 05 Apr 2010 :  22:44:02  Show Profile  Visit saethone's Homepage  Send saethone an AOL message Send saethone a Private Message
Wow, 2004? You really have your work cut out for you, Lol! The reply is appreciated - and your and Ed's work does not go unnoticed :)
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 06 Apr 2010 :  01:09:39  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message
Oh yeah. 2004. I'm not sure if I've got any that old, though I know I asked some back then. I know I've got a few from 2005. Not that I remember exactly what they are any more, but that will just make it all the better when Ed finally gets around to them. Like getting a Christmas present that you wanted so much and for so long, you've forgotten you wanted.

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 06 Apr 2010 :  05:52:56  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message
Looking over at my post count, I noticed that I seemed to have broken 2000 and become a Great Reader.

So, in the spirit of that, could Ed possibly give us some names and details of more famous (and more deserving than I) Great Readers from Candlekeep?

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Kyrene
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Posted - 06 Apr 2010 :  09:08:07  Show Profile  Visit Kyrene's Homepage Send Kyrene a Private Message
Ed and/or THO and/or others,

Today I have two questions.

The first, another of those 'Realmspeak' place adjective vs. place adjective queries:
Last night, I came across "Thayvian" in Calimport (although I have 'heard' that term before).

Is "Thayvian" also just a more archaic version of "Thayan" that somehow fell out of favour for some Realmsian reason, or was "Thayvian" replaced by the more correct "Thayan" (since it was already used IIRC in Spellfire) in later printed material about Thay? Or was Calimport an anomaly, using "Thayvian" incorrectly?


Did Elminster (or indeed any of the other Chosen–of Mystra–with Wizard levels) ever have a wizard's familiar/s?

Thanks in advance for your replies.

Edit: My first question has already been answered.

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Blueblade
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Posted - 06 Apr 2010 :  15:05:09  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Um, didn't the "Thayan/Thayvian" thing get answered in this thread, just a few pages back?
BB
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Kyrene
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Posted - 06 Apr 2010 :  16:26:21  Show Profile  Visit Kyrene's Homepage Send Kyrene a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Blueblade

Um, didn't the "Thayan/Thayvian" thing get answered in this thread, just a few pages back?
BB


Nope, that was "Luskar/Luskanite". A few pages back I also asked about "Turmian/Turmishan", which might be what's confusing you BB.

Edit: You are indeed correct, as pointed out by our very own bloodhound. Truly, the Sage's search fu is strong!

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I am a sexy, shoeless god of war!

The Sellplague began, for all intents and purposes, in the dominions of the Corporation. Greed murdered Good Design, unraveling common sense in the cosmos and destroying her dominion. At the same time, Sales Fears and Warcraft Envy happened into alignment. This cataclysmic coincidence led to upheaval, shaking apart the primeval order, opening up holes in wallets, and reshaping everything...

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Blueblade

Um, didn't the "Thayan/Thayvian" thing get answered in this thread, just a few pages back?
BB

Back on pg. 11 in mid-February, actually:-
quote:
Gelcur, you have INDEED! I'll leave it Ed to relate the tale, hopefully as soon as possible!
Menelvagor, superb questions , as usual. Let me just tackle your first and your last (Ed will do them too, and better): "Thayvian" has the same meaning as "Thayan," but is an older way of identifying something or someone of Thay. It's still heard today, especially among scholars and pedants, but "Thayan" has in recent centuries become far more popular.

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Bladewind
Master of Realmslore

Netherlands
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Posted - 06 Apr 2010 :  16:48:11  Show Profile Send Bladewind a Private Message
Dear Ed and our Lady Hooded One, I was wondering about the common roads in Fearun and the most used types encountered. Roads are important parts of the reason why cities can form. So are there any regional differences between the trade roads in areas such as the Swordcoast, the Moonshaes and the Dragoncoast? Historically speaking is a typical road around Cormyr build apon some kind of old elven hunting path or would these roads be usually human made? What are the trademark identifiers for elven, dwarven or goblin roads? What are the chances of having actual paved roads, or are most only dirt tracks? Are destination signs common? Are roads property of a whole realm or do most belong to no-one? What realm in Fearun would be considered to own the most extensive network of roads?

What period of time would be considered the time of great human (or elven) road (re)building? Are humans best equiped to build roads, bridges and tunnels fast or do dwarven engineers still hold the best papers?

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 06 Apr 2010 :  19:36:53  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Bladewind, Ed has "sort of" answered your roads queries several times in the past. For Cormyr, in general, roads are as follows: corduroy in swampy bits, and carried across watercourses by truss wooden bridges, but in general surfaced with gravel, over high-banked (thus, ditches for draining) earth. The earth is "rammed hard" by running stone-loaded wagons over it and then by War Wizard spell, and the gravel surface is then "half-fused" into glassy slag by spell, and loose gravel tossed over it while still soft, to render a rough "good-traction" surface. Winter frost heaves and cracks this constantly, of course, and spring floods tear out or destroy bridges, so constant maintenance is required, especially in spring...but mud (on main roads) isn't the great problem you'd think it would be. On "lanes" (muddy cart-tracks), of course, mud IS a huge problem...
(This is all paraphrased from Ed's notes and his DM descriptions to us during play. I will of course send your question on to him for a proper answer...about all the OTHER roads in the Realms, for instance.)
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Bladewind
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Ooh, thanks for the quick responce, melady!

Interresting to see that normal cormyrean roads are made by spell-enhanced engineering. Would the end result look abit like the image is the link below?http://personal.eunet.fi/pp/halo/mp/muotka/GravelRoad_305.jpg
It lacks real ditches though so a fearunian road would be slightly more elevated, nay?

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 07 Apr 2010 :  03:38:01  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Yes, EXCEPT (I forgot this bit, earlier): over the exposed rocks, a THIN layer of straw mixed with mud would be laid, to spare the horses' hooves...
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Menelvagor
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Posted - 07 Apr 2010 :  08:27:23  Show Profile  Visit Menelvagor's Homepage Send Menelvagor a Private Message
A question that perhaps may be better directed towards Steven, since he wrote the lore, but since it deals with Elminster and the Srinshee, I thought it better to ask Ed:
Steven wrote in Fall of Myth Drannor regarding Syrumstar's Choker that 'The choker also contains two unique spells that cannot be physically recorded into a spellbook, and thus are known only to the wearer of the choker.' These spells are Mystra's Miasma and Syrumstar's Spellbinding.
My question is, are these spells truly only known by Syrumstar and/or any wearers of her Choker? That is, they apparently cannot be written, but did she not teach any others (that is, Elminster and The Srinshee) these spells? Other spells were obviously shared, as it says 'Symrustar managed to record over 100 spells that were once close-kept secrets of one House or another. These spells were always shared with Elminster Aumar, the Srinshee, the Coronal, and various faculties of wizards schools in Myth Drannor.'
Also, is it possible for anyone else to develop/create these spells, or similiar ones (that is, with the same effects)?

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gomez
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I am using Sheera Goldenleaf and Ellarian Dawnhorn in an upcoming adventure (to be turned in next friday).
I am however unsure what their (sub)race is. I settled on them being sun elves.
Right now their descriptions are as follows:

Ellarian is strong and tall, even for eladrin, and almost always dressed for battle. Her red hair, fading to blond, is normally loose.

Sheera is breathtakingly beautiful eladrin woman. She dresses in plain and practical dress, favoring dark yellow and green.

Not very detailed, but functional enough (adventure text notes background and the subrace). If anyone knows whether I have the racial info right or wrong, please let me know.
(I asked it a while back, but it was a bit obfuscated in another question. I *think* I have it right - though there is always the possibility that Sheera is a moon elf or wood elf)

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 07 Apr 2010 :  13:44:35  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Menelvagor

A question that perhaps may be better directed towards Steven, since he wrote the lore, but since it deals with Elminster and the Srinshee, I thought it better to ask Ed:
Steven wrote in Fall of Myth Drannor regarding Syrumstar's Choker that 'The choker also contains two unique spells that cannot be physically recorded into a spellbook, and thus are known only to the wearer of the choker.' These spells are Mystra's Miasma and Syrumstar's Spellbinding.
My question is, are these spells truly only known by Syrumstar and/or any wearers of her Choker? That is, they apparently cannot be written, but did she not teach any others (that is, Elminster and The Srinshee) these spells? Other spells were obviously shared, as it says 'Symrustar managed to record over 100 spells that were once close-kept secrets of one House or another. These spells were always shared with Elminster Aumar, the Srinshee, the Coronal, and various faculties of wizards schools in Myth Drannor.'
Also, is it possible for anyone else to develop/create these spells, or similiar ones (that is, with the same effects)?


This has nothing to do with the lore, but Mystra's Miasma was re-published as Miasma (Spell Compendium, p 137) for 3E.

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Menelvagor
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Posted - 07 Apr 2010 :  17:14:07  Show Profile  Visit Menelvagor's Homepage Send Menelvagor a Private Message
Really? I didn't know that. Did it change anything in the requirements listed The Fall of Myth Drannor, though?
On a side note, that change had pros and cons. One of the cons was that spells became less personal - my friends enjoyed knowing they were casting a spell developed by this or that mage. But there were pros as well - one of them being that it cut down on arguments. Whenever they adventured and cast a spell not native to that world, they couldn't understand how it was named for a mage who had never existed in that world, and would forever argue with the DM about it.
EDIT: Just remembered another question: We know several mages from Faerun have been to Earth. At least (if I recall correctly) Elminster, Khelben and the Simbul. Do we know why? Also, could they cast magic there, or access their powers from Mystra?
I'm planning on using this information to know how realistic it would be for me to have my players seek Syrumstar on Earth, so if there's anything else relevant to add regarding relations between Earth and Faerun (time - how it passes relatively, portals - where, language - how close is common to [insert language here], etc.) I'd like to know.

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Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.

"Yea, though he live a thousand years twice, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?" - Ecclesiastes VI, 6.

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Ashe Ravenheart
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quote:
Originally posted by Menelvagor

Really? I didn't know that. Did it change anything in the requirements listed The Fall of Myth Drannor, though?
On a side note, that change had pros and cons. One of the cons was that spells became less personal - my friends enjoyed knowing they were casting a spell developed by this or that mage. But there were pros as well - one of them being that it cut down on arguments. Whenever they adventured and cast a spell not native to that world, they couldn't understand how it was named for a mage who had never existed in that world, and would forever argue with the DM about it.
EDIT: Just remembered another question: We know several mages from Faerun have been to Earth. At least (if I recall correctly) Elminster, Khelben and the Simbul. Do we know why? Also, could they cast magic there, or access their powers from Mystra?
I'm planning on using this information to know how realistic it would be for me to have my players seek Syrumstar on Earth, so if there's anything else relevant to add regarding relations between Earth and Faerun (time - how it passes relatively, portals - where, language - how close is common to [insert language here], etc.) I'd like to know.


I don't have my copy of Fall with me right now, but I'll check it out later and let you know.

Regarding the named spells, Ed actually discussed this in his articles "Magic in the Evening" (Dragon #185, p.56; meeting between Elminster and Mordenkainen) and "The Wizards Three" (Dragon #188, p.26; meeting between Dalamar, Elminster and Mordenkainen).

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Menelvagor
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Posted - 07 Apr 2010 :  18:57:28  Show Profile  Visit Menelvagor's Homepage Send Menelvagor a Private Message
Oh? What did he say? I don't have these articles.

"Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.

"Yea, though he live a thousand years twice, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?" - Ecclesiastes VI, 6.

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Hoondatha
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Some of my favorite of Ed's works are "The Wizards Three" articles from Dragon. There were at least four of them, maybe a few more, and they involve El, Mordankainen (can never spell his name properly), and Dalamar coming over to Ed's house for hot dogs, ice cream, pizza, and general other pantry-raiding. They talk, trade practical jokes, and exchange spells, with Ed giving us write-ups at the end of the article.

They're great. Witty, fun, and the spells are great too; most of them weird and wonderful in the way 2e spells were and 3e spells usually weren't. And yes, magic works just fine. We see floating ice cream tubs, teleportation, polymorphs, even an out-and-out mage-duel with competing time stops.

Why they come is left more up in the air, I think it's primarily (for Mord and Dalamar) that it's neutral ground, and for El, because he's having fun with Ed. Other mages (Khelben, Laeral) have been shown popping into the offices of various developers because they wanted to see that they're properly depicted and that things don't get too wild. As for other reasons, those are left appropriately vague, but we do know that the Imaskari, at least, used Earth as a conveniant place to find large numbers of slaves...

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Sigh... And now 4e as well.

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Dangit! I forgot to check my DragonDex before posting before...

Aye, Hoondatha is right, their were more than just the two I mentioned before. Ed's Wizards Three articles also appeared in Dragon #196 (p82), #200 (p20), #211 (p82), #238 (p42), #242 (p48) and #246 (p86). All of them are available on the Dragon Magazine Archive (which is also available on eBay) is NOT cheap, but is well-worth the price. Heck, I'd say that TSR's selling this in 1999 was probably one of their greatest ideas. The interface it came with to read the PDFs on the disc is pretty crappy, but the magazines are all in PDF format, so you just need to open them with Acrobat Reader.

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By the Triplets! 'Not Cheap', huh? Although if you think of it, even for $370, it's still less than $2 an issue... still far too much for me in the near-by future. My main problem with these articles (other than the fact I don't have them) is that they seem to be written in a somewhat humorist style, which makes me question their application, if not their canonity (that probably isn't an 'official' word). The point is, can one reliably deduct from these articles how to apply the rules of Earth on mages from Faerun? Heck, i don't even know if the Weave exists on Earth! They might be using some other method. And if the Weave doesn't exist, is Mystra even present or able to manifest her powers?
Which makes me wonder... with the death of Mystra, what happens to her artifacts that survived the Spellplague intact? Do they lose their power? For example, what would happen to Myrjala's Eyes? With the death of Mystra, you couldn't use it to talk with her anymore, so it essentially becomes a portrait, no?

"Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.

"Yea, though he live a thousand years twice, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?" - Ecclesiastes VI, 6.

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"Let's not call it 'hijacking'. Let's call it 'Thread Drift'."
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