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Dantrag
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 15 Apr 2009 : 21:34:43
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I would like to hear everyones thoughts and opinions on a Realms MMO.If the developer could take fans comments and decide on them. What would it include ...races,deities,regions,and other things of that nature? Just curious
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Tyr
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 15 Apr 2009 : 23:27:33
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It would be really good to see happen, though its probably the least likely due to sheer size, unless they only used a single region. I was just reading through the old first edition setting with the comparison of Western Faerun being about 5/6 times bigger than the USA.
It'd probably have to be pre-4e as an MMO needs to have interesting back story, which the Realms had until the Spellplague. Otherwise they should throw in as much FR material as possible. |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
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Posted - 15 Apr 2009 : 23:47:26
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| The ironic thing is that 4e (as a rules set) is more adaptable (IMO) to a computer game (MMO or otherwise), but with the flavor of the 4e Realms I would never consider playing an MMO set there. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 : 01:57:45
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Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
The ironic thing is that 4e (as a rules set) is more adaptable (IMO) to a computer game (MMO or otherwise), but with the flavor of the 4e Realms I would never consider playing an MMO set there.
I concur. Besides, one MMO at a time is enough for me. I've been quite active in Lord of the Rings Online since Christmas, and it's the most fun I've had in an MMO. |
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Arion Elenim
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 : 08:38:38
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Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
The ironic thing is that 4e (as a rules set) is more adaptable (IMO) to a computer game (MMO or otherwise), but with the flavor of the 4e Realms I would never consider playing an MMO set there.
These things you say? They are all true. 
I really miss 3.5....and I think it's best suited for a MMO. |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 16 Apr 2009 : 10:09:04
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Tyr
Learned Scribe
225 Posts |
Posted - 16 Apr 2009 : 10:28:06
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| Just wondering, did anyone play D&D Online, which I believe is Eberron, and know how they did the mechanics in that? |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 16 Apr 2009 : 12:00:09
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| A dedicated FR MMO that is properly monitored and fully canon (in whichever era) I would LOVE to play in. |
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Tyr
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 : 12:43:46
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Originally posted by Jorkens
This is probably a stupid question, but what is a MMO?
No worries Jorkens, an MMO is a game where you have a single persistent world populated by a large number of players, such as World of Warcraft or Lord of the Rings Online.
Not to be confused with the persistent world servers they use in games like Neverwinter Nights, which are similar but lack the large player count and game world or Guild Wars, which is essentially a 3D version of a system similar to Blizzard's Battlen.net |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 : 14:32:24
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Originally posted by Tyr
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Originally posted by Jorkens
This is probably a stupid question, but what is a MMO?
No worries Jorkens, an MMO is a game where you have a single persistent world populated by a large number of players, such as World of Warcraft or Lord of the Rings Online.
Not to be confused with the persistent world servers they use in games like Neverwinter Nights, which are similar but lack the large player count and game world or Guild Wars, which is essentially a 3D version of a system similar to Blizzard's Battlen.net
Thanks. Even as outdated as I am, I should have known that one. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 : 14:47:34
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Originally posted by Tyr
Just wondering, did anyone play D&D Online, which I believe is Eberron, and know how they did the mechanics in that?
Not I. I heard it wasn't a bad game, just that it was lacking in content. |
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Dantrag
Learned Scribe
USA
141 Posts |
Posted - 16 Apr 2009 : 19:33:44
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I concur. Besides, one MMO at a time is enough for me. I've been quite active in Lord of the Rings Online since Christmas, and it's the most fun I've had in an MMO.
Lord of the rings online is a pretty good game, but the landscape has been downsized. Why couldn't they make a full faerun map but just not make it overly huge...that would solve the problem.Or they could make expansions opening new areas like lotro did...it might actually work, and make the game more manageable. |
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Tyr
Learned Scribe
225 Posts |
Posted - 16 Apr 2009 : 20:40:38
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Jimbobx
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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Tyr
Learned Scribe
225 Posts |
Posted - 17 Apr 2009 : 09:23:36
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If you were able to move freely from one to another and there were thousands playing then it could be, but I don't think the NWN architecture allows it.
Also there seems to be a definition split between thousands pre server and thousands in the game, regardless of server. |
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skychrome
Senior Scribe
713 Posts |
Posted - 17 Apr 2009 : 15:25:59
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Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
The ironic thing is that 4e (as a rules set) is more adaptable (IMO) to a computer game (MMO or otherwise), but with the flavor of the 4e Realms I would never consider playing an MMO set there.
Considering the 4e illustrations I have seen so far (especially the dwarfes!!!) in 4e rule books, there is almost no difference to WoW's style, so why bother about launching 4e FR-MMO? 
Would be a visual redundancy... |
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skychrome
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 17 Apr 2009 : 15:29:27
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Originally posted by Alisttair
A dedicated FR MMO that is properly monitored and fully canon (in whichever era) I would LOVE to play in.
This would be fatal for my social life and job... 
But that would require much more perfectionism and investment and monitoring than you can possibly expect from a comercial company who wants to earn as much as possible with as little development and operations cost as possible... |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 17 Apr 2009 : 15:30:21
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Originally posted by skychrome
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Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
The ironic thing is that 4e (as a rules set) is more adaptable (IMO) to a computer game (MMO or otherwise), but with the flavor of the 4e Realms I would never consider playing an MMO set there.
Considering the 4e illustrations I have seen so far (especially the dwarfes!!!) in 4e rule books, there is almost no difference to WoW's style, so why bother about launching 4e FR-MMO?
Would be a visual redundancy...
Not only that, but many people -- myself included -- feel that the 4E rules are nothing more than a pen-and-paper version of an MMO. |
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skychrome
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 17 Apr 2009 : 16:19:25
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
[Not only that, but many people -- myself included -- feel that the 4E rules are nothing more than a pen-and-paper version of an MMO.
I am always open to change and not everything about 4e ist bad, but if there is something that I can really not stand is the FR being pulled close to WoW in terms of aesthetics! The dwarfes looks as if they where put into space-can suits and I am still angry about the explanaition I read regarding why Halflings live in Swamps now which was kinda "woods and dales are already ocupied, so we put 'em in the swamps". Great.
Plus their illustrations look like fighters, just smaller. No halfling style anymore... 
Ok, enough of the ranting.... 
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Tyr
Learned Scribe
225 Posts |
Posted - 17 Apr 2009 : 17:43:28
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Ironically, when I first read 4e the first thing I though about was WOW, not as in 'oh that's amazing' wow, due to the similarity in how powers work.
Artistically it would need to be gritty and real, maybe a bit more than how they did it for the LotR films.
I might use the idea for some uni work next year, seeing as we've gotta start working towards making a game. Though an MMO would have content requirements on a massive level, far more than a small team can generate. |
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Brian R. James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer
USA
1098 Posts |
Posted - 17 Apr 2009 : 18:15:41
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| I'd absolutely love to explore the Realms in a MMO. More importantly I'd love to do so with my friends here at Candlekeep. Now how cool would that be! |
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skychrome
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 17 Apr 2009 : 18:25:40
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Originally posted by Brian R. James
I'd absolutely love to explore the Realms in a MMO. More importantly I'd love to do so with my friends here at Candlekeep. Now how cool would that be!
Plus there are probably few scenarios with that many very dedicated fans. Thus would make the realms very much alive.
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Garen Thal
Master of Realmslore
USA
1105 Posts |
Posted - 17 Apr 2009 : 18:26:33
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Originally posted by Brian R. James
I'd absolutely love to explore the Realms in a MMO. More importantly I'd love to do so with my friends here at Candlekeep. Now how cool would that be!
"Man, this is totally wrong."
"Yeah. I mean, really! Her eyes are supposed to be blue."
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 17 Apr 2009 : 18:29:04
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Originally posted by Garen Thal
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Originally posted by Brian R. James
I'd absolutely love to explore the Realms in a MMO. More importantly I'd love to do so with my friends here at Candlekeep. Now how cool would that be!
"Man, this is totally wrong."
"Yeah. I mean, really! Her eyes are supposed to be blue."
"And her bosom is not nearly as ample as described in the novels..."
Sometimes knowledge is a dangerous weapon, my friends. ;)
That was my thought as well. We could probably set a new record in grumbling and disagreeing with something like this. And I would probably be the worst of us all. |
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Tyr
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 17 Apr 2009 : 18:41:41
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| You could always do the old Star Trek panel thing, to ensure continuity. Of course it would have to be a non-WotC panel, just to ensure continuity. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Apr 2009 : 21:21:12
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| I'm not into MMOs, so if such a game did come out I'd be unlikely to play it. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 : 01:42:39
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Originally posted by Brian R. James
I'd absolutely love to explore the Realms in a MMO. More importantly I'd love to do so with my friends here at Candlekeep. Now how cool would that be!
I'll second this. Adventuring with some of the scribes here at Candlekeep through a Realms MMO is something I've thought about before.
Though, I get the feeling we'd all end up probably talking more in some tavern of Waterdeep, than we would questing across virtual Faerūn.  |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 : 02:21:31
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Brian R. James
I'd absolutely love to explore the Realms in a MMO. More importantly I'd love to do so with my friends here at Candlekeep. Now how cool would that be!
I'll second this. Adventuring with some of the scribes here at Candlekeep through a Realms MMO is something I've thought about before.
Though, I get the feeling we'd all end up probably talking more in some tavern of Waterdeep, than we would questing across virtual Faerūn.
Count me in as well! How fun would it be to gather a group of a robes and Sagify the realms? |
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Tyr
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 18 Apr 2009 : 09:41:01
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Well just did some looking around and it seems nobody has actually tried to make a FR conversion for another game, just a lot of NWN adventures, which is wierd.
Will have to rectify that at some point. |
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Dantrag
Learned Scribe
USA
141 Posts |
Posted - 18 Apr 2009 : 22:20:52
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Yeah. I mean, really! Her eyes are supposed to be blue."
"And her bosom is not nearly as ample as described in the novels..."
Sometimes knowledge is a dangerous weapon, my friends. ;)
Regardless of what disagreements you would have from this...it would do wonders for gamers and Forgotten Realms as a whole...maybe a good director would see the success of the game, call up Salvatore(or any other author) ,and offer to organize a movie using the author as a basis of knowledge. This could also be used for the game...because if the author that made up the character in the first place created the character in the game...you couldn't say much regarding their "ample bosoms" or things of that nature, because it is strait from the view point of the author. |
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Edited by - Dantrag on 18 Apr 2009 22:23:16 |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 19 Apr 2009 : 23:16:12
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Originally posted by Dantrag
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Yeah. I mean, really! Her eyes are supposed to be blue."
"And her bosom is not nearly as ample as described in the novels..."
Sometimes knowledge is a dangerous weapon, my friends. ;)
Regardless of what disagreements you would have from this...it would do wonders for gamers and Forgotten Realms as a whole...maybe a good director would see the success of the game, call up Salvatore(or any other author) ,and offer to organize a movie using the author as a basis of knowledge. This could also be used for the game...because if the author that made up the character in the first place created the character in the game...you couldn't say much regarding their "ample bosoms" or things of that nature, because it is strait from the view point of the author.
D&D Online didn't do wonders for gamers -- and that was for everyone, not just a subset of D&D players like we are. So I don't see a setting-specific MMO doing all that much for the game as a whole. |
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