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Dantrag
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Posted - 15 Apr 2009 :  21:34:43  Show Profile  Visit Dantrag's Homepage Send Dantrag a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I would like to hear everyones thoughts and opinions on a Realms MMO.If the developer could take fans comments and decide on them. What would it include ...races,deities,regions,and other things of that nature? Just curious

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Tyr
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Posted - 15 Apr 2009 :  23:27:33  Show Profile  Visit Tyr's Homepage Send Tyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It would be really good to see happen, though its probably the least likely due to sheer size, unless they only used a single region. I was just reading through the old first edition setting with the comparison of Western Faerun being about 5/6 times bigger than the USA.

It'd probably have to be pre-4e as an MMO needs to have interesting back story, which the Realms had until the Spellplague. Otherwise they should throw in as much FR material as possible.
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Posted - 15 Apr 2009 :  23:47:26  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The ironic thing is that 4e (as a rules set) is more adaptable (IMO) to a computer game (MMO or otherwise), but with the flavor of the 4e Realms I would never consider playing an MMO set there.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 :  01:57:45  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM

The ironic thing is that 4e (as a rules set) is more adaptable (IMO) to a computer game (MMO or otherwise), but with the flavor of the 4e Realms I would never consider playing an MMO set there.



I concur. Besides, one MMO at a time is enough for me. I've been quite active in Lord of the Rings Online since Christmas, and it's the most fun I've had in an MMO.

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Arion Elenim
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 :  08:38:38  Show Profile  Visit Arion Elenim's Homepage  Click to see Arion Elenim's MSN Messenger address Send Arion Elenim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM

The ironic thing is that 4e (as a rules set) is more adaptable (IMO) to a computer game (MMO or otherwise), but with the flavor of the 4e Realms I would never consider playing an MMO set there.



These things you say? They are all true.

I really miss 3.5....and I think it's best suited for a MMO.

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Jorkens
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 :  10:09:04  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is probably a stupid question, but what is a MMO?
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Tyr
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 :  10:28:06  Show Profile  Visit Tyr's Homepage Send Tyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just wondering, did anyone play D&D Online, which I believe is Eberron, and know how they did the mechanics in that?
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Alisttair
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 :  12:00:09  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage  Click to see Alisttair's MSN Messenger address Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A dedicated FR MMO that is properly monitored and fully canon (in whichever era) I would LOVE to play in.

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Tyr
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 :  12:43:46  Show Profile  Visit Tyr's Homepage Send Tyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens

This is probably a stupid question, but what is a MMO?



No worries Jorkens, an MMO is a game where you have a single persistent world populated by a large number of players, such as World of Warcraft or Lord of the Rings Online.

Not to be confused with the persistent world servers they use in games like Neverwinter Nights, which are similar but lack the large player count and game world or Guild Wars, which is essentially a 3D version of a system similar to Blizzard's Battlen.net
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Jorkens
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 :  14:32:24  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tyr

quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens

This is probably a stupid question, but what is a MMO?



No worries Jorkens, an MMO is a game where you have a single persistent world populated by a large number of players, such as World of Warcraft or Lord of the Rings Online.

Not to be confused with the persistent world servers they use in games like Neverwinter Nights, which are similar but lack the large player count and game world or Guild Wars, which is essentially a 3D version of a system similar to Blizzard's Battlen.net



Thanks. Even as outdated as I am, I should have known that one.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 :  14:47:34  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tyr

Just wondering, did anyone play D&D Online, which I believe is Eberron, and know how they did the mechanics in that?



Not I. I heard it wasn't a bad game, just that it was lacking in content.

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Dantrag
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 :  19:33:44  Show Profile  Visit Dantrag's Homepage Send Dantrag a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:

I concur. Besides, one MMO at a time is enough for me. I've been quite active in Lord of the Rings Online since Christmas, and it's the most fun I've had in an MMO.


Lord of the rings online is a pretty good game, but the landscape has been downsized. Why couldn't they make a full faerun map but just not make it overly huge...that would solve the problem.Or they could make expansions opening new areas like lotro did...it might actually work, and make the game more manageable.

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Tyr
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 :  20:40:38  Show Profile  Visit Tyr's Homepage Send Tyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
well it would probably only work along the lines of making Cormyr for example, about 20 miles across.
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Jimbobx
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Posted - 17 Apr 2009 :  07:37:59  Show Profile Send Jimbobx a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I know it's a bit dated now but wouldn't the many FR Neverwinter Nights Persistent World servers running count as a 'Realms MMO'?

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Tyr
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Posted - 17 Apr 2009 :  09:23:36  Show Profile  Visit Tyr's Homepage Send Tyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you were able to move freely from one to another and there were thousands playing then it could be, but I don't think the NWN architecture allows it.

Also there seems to be a definition split between thousands pre server and thousands in the game, regardless of server.
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skychrome
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Posted - 17 Apr 2009 :  15:25:59  Show Profile  Visit skychrome's Homepage Send skychrome a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM

The ironic thing is that 4e (as a rules set) is more adaptable (IMO) to a computer game (MMO or otherwise), but with the flavor of the 4e Realms I would never consider playing an MMO set there.



Considering the 4e illustrations I have seen so far (especially the dwarfes!!!) in 4e rule books, there is almost no difference to WoW's style, so why bother about launching 4e FR-MMO?
Would be a visual redundancy...

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skychrome
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Posted - 17 Apr 2009 :  15:29:27  Show Profile  Visit skychrome's Homepage Send skychrome a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

A dedicated FR MMO that is properly monitored and fully canon (in whichever era) I would LOVE to play in.



This would be fatal for my social life and job...
But that would require much more perfectionism and investment and monitoring than you can possibly expect from a comercial company who wants to earn as much as possible with as little development and operations cost as possible...

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 17 Apr 2009 :  15:30:21  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by skychrome

quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM

The ironic thing is that 4e (as a rules set) is more adaptable (IMO) to a computer game (MMO or otherwise), but with the flavor of the 4e Realms I would never consider playing an MMO set there.



Considering the 4e illustrations I have seen so far (especially the dwarfes!!!) in 4e rule books, there is almost no difference to WoW's style, so why bother about launching 4e FR-MMO?
Would be a visual redundancy...



Not only that, but many people -- myself included -- feel that the 4E rules are nothing more than a pen-and-paper version of an MMO.

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skychrome
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Posted - 17 Apr 2009 :  16:19:25  Show Profile  Visit skychrome's Homepage Send skychrome a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
[Not only that, but many people -- myself included -- feel that the 4E rules are nothing more than a pen-and-paper version of an MMO.



I am always open to change and not everything about 4e ist bad, but if there is something that I can really not stand is the FR being pulled close to WoW in terms of aesthetics! The dwarfes looks as if they where put into space-can suits and I am still angry about the explanaition I read regarding why Halflings live in Swamps now which was kinda "woods and dales are already ocupied, so we put 'em in the swamps". Great.
Plus their illustrations look like fighters, just smaller. No halfling style anymore...

Ok, enough of the ranting....


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Tyr
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Posted - 17 Apr 2009 :  17:43:28  Show Profile  Visit Tyr's Homepage Send Tyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ironically, when I first read 4e the first thing I though about was WOW, not as in 'oh that's amazing' wow, due to the similarity in how powers work.

Artistically it would need to be gritty and real, maybe a bit more than how they did it for the LotR films.

I might use the idea for some uni work next year, seeing as we've gotta start working towards making a game. Though an MMO would have content requirements on a massive level, far more than a small team can generate.

Edited by - Tyr on 17 Apr 2009 17:47:12
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Brian R. James
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Posted - 17 Apr 2009 :  18:15:41  Show Profile  Visit Brian R. James's Homepage Send Brian R. James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd absolutely love to explore the Realms in a MMO. More importantly I'd love to do so with my friends here at Candlekeep. Now how cool would that be!

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skychrome
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Posted - 17 Apr 2009 :  18:25:40  Show Profile  Visit skychrome's Homepage Send skychrome a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

I'd absolutely love to explore the Realms in a MMO. More importantly I'd love to do so with my friends here at Candlekeep. Now how cool would that be!



Plus there are probably few scenarios with that many very dedicated fans. Thus would make the realms very much alive.

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Garen Thal
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Posted - 17 Apr 2009 :  18:26:33  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

I'd absolutely love to explore the Realms in a MMO. More importantly I'd love to do so with my friends here at Candlekeep. Now how cool would that be!
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Jorkens
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Posted - 17 Apr 2009 :  18:29:04  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Garen Thal

quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

I'd absolutely love to explore the Realms in a MMO. More importantly I'd love to do so with my friends here at Candlekeep. Now how cool would that be!
"Man, this is totally wrong."
"Yeah. I mean, really! Her eyes are supposed to be blue."
"And her bosom is not nearly as ample as described in the novels..."

Sometimes knowledge is a dangerous weapon, my friends. ;)



That was my thought as well. We could probably set a new record in grumbling and disagreeing with something like this. And I would probably be the worst of us all.
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Tyr
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Posted - 17 Apr 2009 :  18:41:41  Show Profile  Visit Tyr's Homepage Send Tyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You could always do the old Star Trek panel thing, to ensure continuity. Of course it would have to be a non-WotC panel, just to ensure continuity.
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Posted - 17 Apr 2009 :  21:21:12  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm not into MMOs, so if such a game did come out I'd be unlikely to play it.

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