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Brimstone
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Posted - 23 Aug 2009 :  21:29:32  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message
Castlemourn Novels sound great. I would read them.

Narandor the Metal Mage: pretty interesting. I see him Floating in the Astral Sea after the Spellplague.

Falconfar Setting would be total win. I still need to order Archwizard.

Thanks THO and of course Ed.

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Zandilar
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 :  00:26:25  Show Profile  Visit Zandilar's Homepage Send Zandilar a Private Message
Heya,

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
Debilitated but unable to die, Narandor writhed in helpless pain until some of his former apprentices found him. They tried to quell the spells riding him, but managed only to isolate them in several of his limbs—which they then blasted into oblivion. Narandor lost consciousness, and they debated as to what to do for him; slay him out of mercy, transform him utterly, transfer his sentience into a beast-body, or - - their eventual choice - - replace his missing limbs with flowmetal, something many Halruaans had been working on. <snip explanation of flow metal>



I just love how his apprentices come up with several things they could do, then do the worst possible one they could - one that is (to the best of their knowledge at the time) going to result in a long, drawn out, and painful death. (Which is on top of what was already done to the poor man, really, did they want to break him completely?)

What happened to getting him to a cleric stat?

Zandilar
~amor vincit omnia~
~audaces fortuna iuvat~

As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.

The Sunlord left Elversult the same day in humilitation, and was never heard from again.
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The Sage
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 :  01:38:11  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
Ed, you've my eternal thanks. And you as well, my lovely Lady.

So this is intriguing stuff. I'll definitely be dropping this into my campaign when I've an opportunity. As my players can always expect some tantalising piece of Realmspace-lore to find its way into whatever type of campaign they're running through.

One additional question:- Could you possibly tell me more about Narandor's past skyship designs?

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 :  02:33:30  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Heh. Zandilar, you speak with the calm, reasoned voice of truth.
So at odds with early Halruaa, with all of its Netherese treachery, insanity, paranoia, backbiting, and wild reasoning.
I often wish a little more of Ed's Halruaa had been published, before we got the FR16 (it was 16, wasn't it? I'm away from my lore-library right now) and then Elaine's versions, both of which deal with the later, more tradition-bound and "ordered society" evolution of the land.
Sage, your query has been e-hurled in Ed's direction, to see what he'll cough up.
love to all,
THO
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 :  06:44:50  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Heh. Zandilar, you speak with the calm, reasoned voice of truth.
So at odds with early Halruaa, with all of its Netherese treachery, insanity, paranoia, backbiting, and wild reasoning.
I often wish a little more of Ed's Halruaa had been published, before we got the FR16 (it was 16, wasn't it? I'm away from my lore-library right now) and then Elaine's versions, both of which deal with the later, more tradition-bound and "ordered society" evolution of the land.
Sage, your query has been e-hurled in Ed's direction, to see what he'll cough up.
love to all,
THO



Yup, FR16 -- the first of two FR tomes to bear the name Shining South.

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The Sage
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 :  08:04:12  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Sage, your query has been e-hurled in Ed's direction, to see what he'll cough up.
I've got a side-query related to that question as well. But since it'll bring up some details of my own campaign [which I can't really post here], I'll e-hurl your way.

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Kajehase
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 :  12:05:58  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Yup, FR16 -- the first of two FR tomes to bear the name Shining South.



Isn't one of them called the Shining South, though?

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The Sage
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 :  14:29:53  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Yup, FR16 -- the first of two FR tomes to bear the name Shining South.



Isn't one of them called the Shining South, though?

Yes. FR16 is titled The Shining South. The 3e tome is simply Shining South.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 :  15:31:15  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Yup, FR16 -- the first of two FR tomes to bear the name Shining South.



Isn't one of them called the Shining South, though?

Yes. FR16 is titled The Shining South. The 3e tome is simply Shining South.




Quite true, but it's a pretty minor difference in titles. I wish they'd given the 3E tome a name that wasn't practically identical, because that kind of thing only leads to confusion.

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The Sage
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 :  16:01:52  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Yup, FR16 -- the first of two FR tomes to bear the name Shining South.



Isn't one of them called the Shining South, though?

Yes. FR16 is titled The Shining South. The 3e tome is simply Shining South.




Quite true, but it's a pretty minor difference in titles. I wish they'd given the 3E tome a name that wasn't practically identical, because that kind of thing only leads to confusion.

Hmmm. I seem to recall either Thomas Reid or Rich Baker [over at Wizards] suggesting that alternate names for the 3e tome were discussed at some point.

I'll have to check my archives.

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Jorkens
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 :  17:09:03  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

I often wish a little more of Ed's Halruaa had been published, before we got the FR16 (it was 16, wasn't it? I'm away from my lore-library right now) and then Elaine's versions, both of which deal with the later, more tradition-bound and "ordered society" evolution of the land.
Sage, your query has been e-hurled in Ed's direction, to see what he'll cough up.
love to all,
THO



How much did the south, as shown in that product, match with Ed's original ideas? I would guess that most of it was the creation of Tom Prusa, but did it still manage to portray the right "feel" of the region as originally intended?
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createvmind
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 :  21:33:29  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
Hello All,

For Ed, THO you can answer if you hav any info as well. I want to know if Ed used diseases or poisons that affected creatures thought to be immune to either?
I'm thinking that Talona in particular would surely have issues with those that oppose her being immune to her afflictions.

I assume that Ed created afflictions that might be technically considered a poison or a disease in terms of symtoms but may have been something else entirely.

Any thing you can share?
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Hoondatha
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Hey Ed, I hope you're recovering from GenCon alright; one of these days I'll make it down there and say hi again. In the meantime, however, I have a quick question: I was rereading Volo's Guide to All Things Magical and noticed something that had escaped me all the other times I read it. In the section on Elixirs, under the Great Elixir, Volo mentions that Elminster has assured him that the recipe he's about to give is accurate. However, he doesn't actually *give* a recipe, the way he does with the other three elixirs. Instead he launches right into the effects. Can you share how to make it? I enjoy sending my players off on various wild-goose chases (if anyone from my CK game is reading this... uhh... heh heh ), and could definitely make use of the recipe. Many thanks.

Doggedly converting 3e back to what D&D should be...
Sigh... And now 4e as well.
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Jakk
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Posted - 26 Aug 2009 :  06:57:33  Show Profile Send Jakk a Private Message
Hello Ed and THO,

I was perusing Candlekeep's library when I found (again) a scroll by Doug Niles recounting the Darkwalker on Moonshae refitting. It reminded me of a question I had when I first read the scroll three years ago (at which time I was not a contributing scribe, just a newly-arrived frequent reader). Is the original geography of your Moonshaes covered by the original-submission NDA blanket, or is it possible for you to share a map of that region with us at Candlekeep? Thank you for your reply, whatever it may be.

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 26 Aug 2009 :  18:26:41  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Sorry, Jakk. The "original" Moonshaes are indeed behind the mighty NDA wall.
Some scribes have seen them when (the Ed roast at a GenCon some years back, for instance) the "master" map of the Realms has been exhibited (Ed's photocopies all taped together and marker-coloured; glimpses of it can be seen in the D&D 40th anniversary coffee table book, again from a few years back), but neither TSR nor WotC have ever officially published them anywhere.
However, who knows? Ed will try again to get them into print, somehow and somewhere, and we'll see.
One can but try.
love,
THO
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 26 Aug 2009 :  18:29:33  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
Ed has fallen silent for two days to quickly take care of some future Realms matters. The Realms are not dead!
love to all,
THO

Edited by - The Hooded One on 26 Aug 2009 18:31:37
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Brimstone
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Posted - 26 Aug 2009 :  19:23:04  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi again, all.
Ed has fallen silent for two days to quickly take care of some future Realms matters. The Realms are not dead!
love to all,
THO


That looks promising.

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to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
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Joran Nobleheart
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Posted - 26 Aug 2009 :  19:31:20  Show Profile  Visit Joran Nobleheart's Homepage Send Joran Nobleheart a Private Message
Please tell Mr. Greenwood that I wish him all the best with his new Realms project, and that this is one paladin that's looking forward to opening a chest (my bookstore) and reading through the brand new tome that's found therein!

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Jakk
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quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi again, all.
Ed has fallen silent for two days to quickly take care of some future Realms matters. The Realms are not dead!
love to all,
THO


That looks promising.


It does indeed...

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.
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Zandilar
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Posted - 27 Aug 2009 :  10:05:57  Show Profile  Visit Zandilar's Homepage Send Zandilar a Private Message
Heya,

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
Ed has fallen silent for two days to quickly take care of some future Realms matters. The Realms are not dead!



I don't know why, but I feel like a goose just walked over my grave...

There's something ominous about the way you had to clarify that the Realms were not dead, my lady. Is there something I'm missing?

Zandilar
~amor vincit omnia~
~audaces fortuna iuvat~

As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.

The Sunlord left Elversult the same day in humilitation, and was never heard from again.
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Jorkens
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Posted - 27 Aug 2009 :  10:44:48  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Zandilar

Heya,

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
Ed has fallen silent for two days to quickly take care of some future Realms matters. The Realms are not dead!



I don't know why, but I feel like a goose just walked over my grave...

There's something ominous about the way you had to clarify that the Realms were not dead, my lady. Is there something I'm missing?



I just read that as eagerness and encouragement to those who are sceptical about the future of the Realms product-wise myself.
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gomez
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Posted - 27 Aug 2009 :  13:51:38  Show Profile  Visit gomez's Homepage Send gomez a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens


I just read that as eagerness and encouragement to those who are sceptical about the future of the Realms product-wise myself.



The Realms are vibrant and alive!

I also think she was joking about the relative quietness on the board.
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 27 Aug 2009 :  16:39:35  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
Right on, gomez and Jorkens.
You need not worry about the Realms, Zandilar. The number of burgeoning projects Ed is involved in or being consulted on or hearing about bodes very well for the Realms as a continuing published presence.
Not in the "half dozen sourcebooks and same number of novels plus comics and other extras, per year" form it used to be in - - but then, if you look across the industry, NOTHING is getting that sort of coverage these days (Warhammer comes closest, but only if you consider all the different novel lines still "one"). The era of the Net and the PDF and the online magazine and web enhancements have all hit, and wrought their changes.
Me, I'd still prefer the bookshelf of tangible books I could read, and re-read (and buy still-in-print replacements for, when they finally fell apart through heavy usage and love), but as Ed often says: "I'm not running a game company. I'd be a disaster at it if I tried."
love,
THO
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sfdragon
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hehe THO tell ED for me that its a disaster if anyone tries that, even the ones who are doing it.
disaster= pain killers and killer headaches.

why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power


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Blueblade
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Posted - 27 Aug 2009 :  20:50:29  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Dear Ed and THO,
I ran into a gamer earlier today who once played in an Ed-run Realms adventure, and he told me to ask Ed to tell me "the story of the six dragons fighting in a castle, and wrecking it," apparently while he and other PC adventurers were inside.
So, Ed, being as this is one I've GOT to hear . . . please?
Thanks!
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