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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 20 Jan 2009 :  03:29:24  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello again, fellow scribes. A very short Realmslore reply from Ed this time, in response to Asgetrion’s seventh Thunderstone-and-vicinity question:
“7) Can you give any details about the Realm of Wailing Fog?”
Ed replies:



No.



So saith Ed. Heh. He’s not trying to be nasty or flippant, however; he’s smitten with a firm NDA on this one, and is investigating to see just what he CAN say to you, to provide SOMEthing.
I’ve suggested he give you a “well, if I was DMing the Realms right now, and wanted to head the PCs off from this feature but describe approaching it and experiencing its verges, I would handle it this way” reply, and he agrees that’s a good way to go, IF he can get clearance.
love to all,
THO
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Kajehase
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Posted - 20 Jan 2009 :  10:44:43  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message
I just had to pop in and offer a belated (somebody had cast bestow curse on the computer) thank you to Ed for answering my Aglarond rich-list question a while back.

Oh. And expect follow-up questions once I'm done reading a month's worth of unopened e-mails

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RodOdom
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Posted - 20 Jan 2009 :  11:33:12  Show Profile  Visit RodOdom's Homepage Send RodOdom a Private Message
Argh ! You'd think moving the timeline 100 years would lift most of the NDAs.
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Bakra
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Posted - 20 Jan 2009 :  13:57:05  Show Profile Send Bakra a Private Message
Lady Hood,
When you say recently extension ladders have been seen in Suzail, do you mean 1360’s or 1470’s?
Also what years was “Filfaeril Bound And Willing” written? (not published) because I was leaning towards Alusair (she was known at court when it was published unless it was published before she could write…and I just find it funny, “Mother would you imagine yourself in this position?” “Only on Thursdays dear.”
And any scribe can answer the second question of course.

Bakra Lord of the Outlying Thread & small nibbles.

I hope Candlekeep continues to be the friendly forum of fellow Realms-lovers that it has always been, as we all go through this together. If you don’t want to move to the “new” Realms, that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with either you or the “old” Realms. Goodness knows Candlekeep, and the hearts of its scribes, are both big enough to accommodate both. If we want them to be.
(Strikes dramatic pose, raises sword to gleam in the sunset, and hopes breeches won’t fall down.)
Enough for now. The Realms lives! I have spoken! Ale and light wines half price, served by a smiling Storm Silverhand fetchingly clad in thigh-high boots and naught else! Ahem . .
So saith Ed. <snip>
love to all,
THO

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 20 Jan 2009 :  15:22:25  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Bakra, I do mean in the 1360s.
"Filfaeril Bound And Willing" started to make the rounds in 1369.
I LOVE your imagined conversation between Alusair and Filfaeril; it's one that (given their characters) they could easily have when Alusair was old enough (how old is that? That I leave to Ed; Alusair was both uninhibited and aware of the facts of life at a very early age, but as to how long it would take her to overcome her instinctive revulsion/reticence at discussing such matters with her mother, I'm not sure).
love,
THO
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 20 Jan 2009 :  15:33:54  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
Has anyone guessed Dimswart?

Now that I think about it, I'm a little curious as to how "Filfaeril Bound And Willing" came to be published... We know it was written by someone at court, okay. But I'm curious as to if they arranged for its publication (which seems unlikely, to me) or if it fell into the wrong hands. I can readily see a noble, unhappy with the crown, arranging for the publication -- I don't see it as readily for someone who is loyal and, I'm guessing, something of an insider. Of course, we just know it's someone long known at Court -- which doesn't imply loyalty or even being a Cormyte.

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 20 Jan 2009 :  15:41:34  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Aha! LISTEN to Wooly, guessers. He's elucidating some important points. As to his guess about the author, I'm not so sure.
love,
THO
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GoCeraf
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Posted - 20 Jan 2009 :  18:39:35  Show Profile  Visit GoCeraf's Homepage Send GoCeraf a Private Message
Uh, I just realized...

What does Ed use suction cups for? Well, I guess he doesn't have them anymore , but still...

Being sarcastic can be more telling than simply telling.
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 20 Jan 2009 :  18:42:36  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
No, he doesn't have them any more (they perish, over time, regardless of Elminster-swipings). Ed used them while he was working on his house, to lift panes of glass into place. You'll see good construction crews and window-glass-replacers using them everywhere.
(You were expecting a steamier answer, I know, but that'd be what *I* use them for .)
love,
THO
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GoCeraf
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Posted - 20 Jan 2009 :  19:07:45  Show Profile  Visit GoCeraf's Homepage Send GoCeraf a Private Message
Actually, I was sort of hoping for an answer depicting activities of questionable legality. Like as part of a heist.

I can't imagine many steamy uses for... wait, no, there it is.

Being sarcastic can be more telling than simply telling.
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The Sage
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Posted - 20 Jan 2009 :  22:59:45  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Has anyone guessed Dimswart?
Funnily enough, Dimswart was one of the first names to come to mind. I don't have much reasoning behind it, but Ed did mention, some time ago, that Dimswart had been busy writing "this and that."

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ranger_of_the_unicorn_run
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Posted - 21 Jan 2009 :  02:20:29  Show Profile Send ranger_of_the_unicorn_run a Private Message
Probably not a very good guess considering it doesn't really fit the clues, but the first person I thought of for the question of authorship was Thone, author of the Heartsteel books.
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 21 Jan 2009 :  02:31:45  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, scribes. Heh, keep those guesses coming!
In the meantime, here are the latest lore-words of Ed of the Greenwood, this time in response to Asgetrion’s last (thus far) Thunderstone-and-vicinity question:
“8) Does Stag's Skull Bridge have any sort of barracks/buildings for the Dragons stationed there, or do they just march to guard the bridge in shifts? Does it have any other buildings, or perhaps even fortifications (such as a barbican)?”
Ed replies:



Stag’s Skull Bridge was recently rebuilt to make it stronger and wider, fuelling speculation that perhaps, just perhaps, the Crown was finally going to permit large-scale logging in the Hullack Forest, or even permit the building (or undertake the building) of a long-locally-dreamed-of road right through the heart of the Hullack, beginning at the Bridge and ending in a moot with the East Way.
The Bridge is now wide enough for two wagons to JUST pass abreast without the wheels of either straying up onto the walkways (like modern-real-world North American sidewalks: continuous paths of smooth stone slabs raised a little more than a handspan above the level of the central “wagon-way” path). These walkways, which are “the height of a shortish man, lying down” across (about five feet), run the length of the bridge on both sides of the central wagon-way, and are bounded by continuous stone parapets four feet high and a foot thick (with a flat top “edge” much used by local youths to leap or dive into the Thunderflow in the warmest months; the Thunderflow is apt to be rather cold for such activities the rest of the year). Fishing from the bridge is forbidden, as is loitering on it “with intent to talk or meet with others,” or blocking it - - and the Dragons guarding it have strict orders to keep anyone from forming the habit of breaking these decrees. (So divers from the bridge have formed the habit of striding briskly onto the bridge, fully clad, then suddenly veering to a parapet, mounting it, and leaping off, without hesitation or delay. Guards tolerate that, even enjoying the entertainment, so they won’t stop a dripping-wet repeat diver from starting across the bridge, even if they know full well what he or she is going to do when they get to midspan.)
From below, the bridge is a high arch (allowing a man standing on the deck of a barge on the Thunderflow to pass under the bridge without ducking), but from above, the wagon-way has been built up and lengthened to minimize the “hump” or grade in the center that wagons must negotiate in slippery weather. There is one drainage-hole in the “deck” or “bed” of the bridge (the wagon-way), usually covered by a circular metal plate, that is wide enough to allow a slender man (or anyone smaller) to pass through it if they raise their arms, though it would be hard to fall through it accidentally. This hole is located just below the high point of the wagon-way, on the Thunderstone side of that crest. It is rarely uncovered, except when during rare torrential rains and when ice or snow are being cleared off the bridge in winter.
The bridge does not yet have any barbicans, gates, or “end-houses,” fortified or otherwise, although there have long been plans for a small barbican at the Hullack Forest end of the bridge. What exists instead, in a straight line north from the wagon-way and about forty feet away from the north end of the bridge, is a small stone “hump” with ground-level firing-ports let into it, and a rusty forest of “thrusting out in all directions” spikes on top (to prevent any wagon, mount, or person from standing atop the hump).
The firing ports have heavy “swing up to the ceiling” metal shutters on their insides (reinforced by locking crossbars), and let into a small “ready room” where Purple Dragons can man multiple-fire heavy crossbows that are mounted on swivel-tripods, loaded (very rapidly) by means of racks, and cocked (fairly rapidly) by means of “master” winch-windlasses operated by turning large “wheels” of open spokes. Intended to repel an invasion in force out of the forest (e.g. by orcs), this small pillbox enclosure (known to the Dragons as “the Sunken Keep”) has never been used “in anger,” and is generally regarded as a mistake (though it has proved useful for private meetings, military initiations, and even trysts). It is accessed by a stone-lined, arch-topped tunnel that runs along the north bank of the Thunderflow for “four long bowshots” and then hooks north into the Hullack, where its hidden (by a screen of woven, living forest plants, and a smaller “mat” of them affixed to the door itself) access door emerges between the roots of an ancient shadowtop stump the size of a small cottage.
As the Sunken Keep is rarely even inspected, there’s little sign of any trail or disturbance at the tunnel entry. Food and water is cached all the way along the tunnel, and it has “sleeping niches” let into its north wall every so often; enough to hide twenty armed and equipped Dragons in comfort, and to “stash” forty of them for short periods in discomfort.
There is a small wooden “keep off the rain” pavilion on the west side of the south end of the bridge. (I call it a pavilion because it’s a steeply conical roof around a central flagpole that a lantern can be winched to the top of, for better visibility around the bridge in times of attack; a flag has never been known to be raised on it, that roof being supported by a ring of eight pillars, with no walls, a flagstone floor, and one solid and very uncomfortable log bench, to discourage any on-duty Dragons from dozing off. The word “pavilion” isn’t used in Cormyr for permanent buildings, only for elaborate tents; Cormyreans call this shelter a “rain-roof.”)
The Dragons DO have a small, simple walled compound consisting of a stone barracks, stables, haypile, underground stone-lined “pit” holding-cell with wall-manacles (six sets), well, and armory at the west end of Thunderstone (just outside the built-up area), and an identical, empty, locked-up “spare” compound at the east end of Thunderstone, beyond the built-up area. The western compound is known as Westhold, and the eastern one as Easthold (ah, the ever-poetic military mind), and Dragons moving between Stag's Skull Bridge and either compound are encouraged to always vary their routes and the times they make the journey (and change bridge-guarding shifts).



So saith Ed. Who wants to know if there are any more Thunderstone-related questions, while he’s still thinking about the place and has his notes out.
love to all,
THO
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Brimstone
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Posted - 21 Jan 2009 :  02:47:36  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message
-Dear Ed care of THO. I just recently got the Cormyr(2E) PDF from Paizo.

-On the map (page 72 of the PDF) it has a location called The Cliff of Lost Lovers. Just south of Halfhap, and due west of the Moonsea Ride. I started a thread about it over at the WotC boards. I got nothing as far as Realmslore is concerned. I looked at some other Realms products yet I can find anything about it. I was wondering if Ed has anything to say about this site. Thanks!


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crazedventurers
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 21 Jan 2009 :  11:09:42  Show Profile  Visit crazedventurers's Homepage Send crazedventurers a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
So saith Ed. Who wants to know if there are any more Thunderstone-related questions, while he’s still thinking about the place and has his notes out.
love to all,
THO

Thank you for your replies so far - very much enjoyed by all!

More questions you ask? (ahem) well then.......

Wizards of War:
More than the normal contingent for a village of its size given the dangers of the Hullack? Any unusual spells used to blast the enemies in the woods without destroying the place? (general description is fine)

Purple Dragons:
Rangers, druids, scouts in the ranks? Do they 'patrol' the Hullack much or just keep the critters north of the Thunderflow? Do the locals lads and lasses enrol in the dragons?

Ranching:
Are horses bred for work (dray, plough etc) and for the military/general riding? (or do they specialise). Do most folks in Thunderstone know how to ride?

I would presume that hunting is a popular pastime given the location, so do people ride about the coutryside chasing deer and foxes? If so are hounds used, are they locally bred, by whom?

Are they any local laws regarding hunting? (right of way, game in/out of season etc)


What local festivals are celebrated? (excluding Greengrass, Shieldmeet etc) and are there any 'local only' traditions/games held at the festivals?


Beer: what is the local brew and does it travel well? (same for wine, fortified spirits etc)


If I wanted to subtly get some news into circulation, who would be the best person to 'talk to in confidence' and therefore ensure that everyone knew by sundown tomorrow what I wanted them to know


Of the up-and-coming young local lads and lasses who is seen as someone of worth, who is the troublemaker, and who is the one that the War Wizards and Dragons really keep an eye on?


Field boundaries: Hedges or dry stone walls?


I would be interested to know how the worship of Malar is conducted in Thunderstone, whether the locals accept it/embrace it or whether they are seen as those that 'keep the woods wild and hunt beast and man that dare tread the Hullack'.


Any local gossip on ruins/tresure/lost hunting parties/cults etc etc etc are always welcome. Do the locals try to steer adventuring groups to certain areas each summer by telling wild tales? Is there a local adventuring band active?

What is the relationship between Thunderstone and Highdale? much trade between the two, supported by hamlets/fortified waystations in the Thundergap?


Ahem, I could come up with a dozen more questions , but will leave it at that. Ed, am not expecting full blown answers for all and wont be miffed if you miss some out.

Cheers

Damian
ps thank you to THO for posting and sharing her own tales of Cormyr

So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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George Krashos
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Posted - 21 Jan 2009 :  16:54:31  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message
My guess is Storm Silverhand. She's a marchioness of Cormyr and "long known there" and known to have a love of "bodice ripper" fiction. Maybe she tried her own hand at some ... ?

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 21 Jan 2009 :  17:38:03  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

My guess is Storm Silverhand. She's a marchioness of Cormyr and "long known there" and known to have a love of "bodice ripper" fiction. Maybe she tried her own hand at some ... ?

-- George Krashos




I guessed her already, and she was among the wrong guesses.

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Markustay
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Posted - 21 Jan 2009 :  19:21:33  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
Sorry for the off-topiness in advance...

quote:
Originally posted by RodOdom

Argh ! You'd think moving the timeline 100 years would lift most of the NDAs.
I would think there would be even more NDAs where Ed and 4e is concerned - he knows MUCH less about it then the folks who designed it, and he really can't be "telling it like it is" like he does with the Realms he personally created.

In fact, there seems to be a lot of effort on the company's part to leave a LOT of guesswork in the setting now... which is something I can understand as a DM (but NOT as a fan of the Realms).

As for NDA's - they only concern important, historic matters (and figures), so your best bet is to ask questions regarding 'small details', and NOT large plothooks.

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Edited by - Markustay on 21 Jan 2009 19:22:05
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George Krashos
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Posted - 21 Jan 2009 :  21:38:58  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

My guess is Storm Silverhand. She's a marchioness of Cormyr and "long known there" and known to have a love of "bodice ripper" fiction. Maybe she tried her own hand at some ... ?

-- George Krashos




I guessed her already, and she was among the wrong guesses.



Must have missed it in all the excitement. Thanks for the heads up. I shall ponder anon.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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sfdragon
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I know who the author was, It was written by someone with a dirty mind...
hahahahahahaha

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Ergdusch
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

So saith Ed. Who wants to know if there are any more Thunderstone-related questions, while he’s still thinking about the place and has his notes out.
love to all,
THO



Marvelous answers, all of them. My thanks to the one who asked about Thunderstone in the first place and many thanks of course to Ed for these detailed answers.

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Tormtar
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Hi Ed and The Hooded One,

A couple of Archdale related queries, if I may?

Does Ed have any details on the dwarven master mason Feldyn Fullbellow (he who made the fountain at the Bounty of the Goddess temple in Archenbridge)? Where is he based? Who works for him or does he work alone, etc?

Secondly, the water in the aforementioned fountain turns to blood and has healing properties if a priest/ess of Chauntea is slain within the dale. Are there any other readily to hand examples of such event connected miracles connected with temples in the Heartlands?

Thanks
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RodOdom
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Posted - 22 Jan 2009 :  13:19:51  Show Profile  Visit RodOdom's Homepage Send RodOdom a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Sorry for the off-topiness in advance...

[quote]Originally posted by RodOdom


In fact, there seems to be a lot of effort on the company's part to leave a LOT of guesswork in the setting now... which is something I can understand as a DM (but NOT as a fan of the Realms).



Well, good then. The less they'll have to retcon later.
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RodOdom
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Posted - 22 Jan 2009 :  13:29:12  Show Profile  Visit RodOdom's Homepage Send RodOdom a Private Message
Dear Ed and Lady THO,

In Ed and Jeff Grubb's novel Corymr, Vangerdahast confronts Aunadaur Bleth with a special relic:

“The blade I hold is Symy­lazarr, the Fount of Hon­or, up­on which ev­ery lead­er of ev­ery no­ble house swears his or her feal­ty to the king. Kiss the drag­on’s-head pom­mel and re­peat the last sen­tence you ut­tered,” the old wiz­ard said, and the oth­er two men in the room took a sin­gle step for­ward in uni­son."

What is Symylazarr's story? Is it enchanted? Thank you.

Edited by - RodOdom on 22 Jan 2009 13:29:53
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Markustay
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IIRC, there are four 'royal blades' of Cormyr, and that is just one.

I'm not sure, but I think one may have been lost during Cormyr's war with Calimshan (the province of Valashar) - Fort Illbratha in the Troll Mountains has some history regarding it.

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