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Malcolm
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Posted - 28 May 2009 :  15:53:41  Show Profile  Visit Malcolm's Homepage Send Malcolm a Private Message
Dear Ed and Lady THO,
A campaign question arises:
Just inside a city gate for, say, Suzail or Waterdeep or any other walled city with not too much sprawl outside the walls, there will inevitably be shops that just-arrived people will blunder past or up to. I'd imagine that a fair amount of newcomers ask "where is?" questions, and that shopkeepers would either go nuts or resign themselves to answering - - and probably shift the wares they sell to be "handy things a new arrival needs or wants to buy, right away." And perhaps provide washrooms? Water-troughs for tired mounts or pack animals?
My question is: could Ed - - or, THO, if Ed is still busy, Ed's notes - - give us any examples of one or two shops/shopkeepers (names, brief outline of what the place looks like and sells) one might encounter if entering Suzail through, say, that northeastern city gate, the one closest to the Palace?
Thanks!
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ijkay
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Posted - 28 May 2009 :  19:10:59  Show Profile Send ijkay a Private Message
Ed and Lady THO

In Dragon 253 in the Worms of the North series Raulthim has his lair on the isle of Axard. Is Axard the same isle where Rethgaard lies or a smaller isle further north unmarked on most maps?

Additionally Raulthim is described as occasionally trading with the Halfling family of Taerseer in Holgerstead. Is there a story behind this family as Ruathym seems an odd place for halflings to settle.

Thanks for any info you can provide.

Ian Franks

"So I thought to myself who gives a damn if all the jobs are gone, I'm going to be a Pirate on the River Saskatchewan!", The Arrogant Worms
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Blueblade
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Posted - 29 May 2009 :  03:48:04  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
I seem to recall a long-ago GenCon Realms seminar with Ed Greenwood and Jeff Grubb at which they explained that halflings (and to a lesser extent gnomes) are "in darned near every human city or town" working as launderers, chimney sweeps, spice grinders and providers, fine-part forgers (who make the little metal innards of locks, etc.), dishwashers, darners and menders of garments and so on.
I also remember, years ago in this thread (2004? 2005?) Ed answering questions on what could be found on Ruathym. Sage? Wooly? Kuje? Other elder scribes? I seem to having a senior moment . . .
(Or is that a "dwarf after his helm got deeply dented in battle" moment?)
BB
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Markustay
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Posted - 29 May 2009 :  03:57:00  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
Rauthym Map

Rethgaard?

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Edited by - Markustay on 29 May 2009 03:57:42
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The Sage
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Posted - 29 May 2009 :  04:23:31  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Blueblade

I seem to recall a long-ago GenCon Realms seminar with Ed Greenwood and Jeff Grubb at which they explained that halflings (and to a lesser extent gnomes) are "in darned near every human city or town" working as launderers, chimney sweeps, spice grinders and providers, fine-part forgers (who make the little metal innards of locks, etc.), dishwashers, darners and menders of garments and so on.
I also remember, years ago in this thread (2004? 2005?) Ed answering questions on what could be found on Ruathym. Sage? Wooly? Kuje? Other elder scribes? I seem to having a senior moment . . .
(Or is that a "dwarf after his helm got deeply dented in battle" moment?)
BB

Aye. There's a few bits in the '05 compilation files as I recall. Around March, I think.

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ijkay
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Posted - 29 May 2009 :  17:20:14  Show Profile Send ijkay a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Rauthym Map

Rethgaard?



Rethgaard - Stone fortress built by the seagoing dwarves of Haunghdanner - mapped in FR 5 Savage Frontier - Text insinuates occupied by Northmen.

Thanks for the pointers for info regarding Rauthym (Didn't seem to be able to find it though). I found the halfling presence strange because I thought it was a little far afield even for the hin.

Ian Franks

"So I thought to myself who gives a damn if all the jobs are gone, I'm going to be a Pirate on the River Saskatchewan!", The Arrogant Worms

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 29 May 2009 :  20:16:22  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
The fourth and final part of Ed's interview is up at the Kobold Quarterly website. It's the longest, wherein Ed says the most about writing...
love to all,
THO
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Markustay
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Posted - 29 May 2009 :  21:12:58  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by ijkay

Thanks for the pointers for info regarding Rauthym (Didn't seem to be able to find it though).

I found the answer on the Realms L-List awhile back (where it was mispelled 'Axgard').

Updated the Map as well.

Northmen Halflings?

Viklings?


"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 29 May 2009 21:15:31
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 30 May 2009 :  15:52:56  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi again, all.
The fourth and final part of Ed's interview is up at the Kobold Quarterly website. It's the longest, wherein Ed says the most about writing...
love to all,
THO



And just to have all the links made pretty and in one place...

Ed Greenwood's Kobold Quarterly interview, part 1
Ed Greenwood's Kobold Quarterly interview, part 2
Ed Greenwood's Kobold Quarterly interview, part 3
Ed Greenwood's Kobold Quarterly interview, part 4

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Wooly, you're so awesome !

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The Sage
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Posted - 30 May 2009 :  16:41:37  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi again, all.
The fourth and final part of Ed's interview is up at the Kobold Quarterly website. It's the longest, wherein Ed says the most about writing...
love to all,
THO

While the entire article series has been awesome, I found this last part to be among the most useful. There's a lot here from Ed that I've found has helped me to understand something about my own attempts at writing.

Words are indeed tools. And they're what I use to build my own worlds. But I'd also like to think that some of the energy that goes into my using those tools effectively, comes directly from everything I read from Ed.

He's a source for inspiration, no matter what he does!

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 30 May 2009 :  17:33:28  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello again, all. I bring, from Ed's notes, a tentative answer to this recent query from Malcolm: "Just inside a city gate for, say, Suzail or Waterdeep or any other walled city with not too much sprawl outside the walls, there will inevitably be shops that just-arrived people will blunder past or up to. I'd imagine that a fair amount of newcomers ask "where is?" questions, and that shopkeepers would either go nuts or resign themselves to answering - - and probably shift the wares they sell to be "handy things a new arrival needs or wants to buy, right away." And perhaps provide washrooms? Water-troughs for tired mounts or pack animals?
My question is: could Ed - - or, THO, if Ed is still busy, Ed's notes - - give us any examples of one or two shops/shopkeepers (names, brief outline of what the place looks like and sells) one might encounter if entering Suzail through, say, that northeastern city gate, the one closest to the Palace? Thanks!"

Here we go . . . with an answer set JUST before the Spellplague erupts (from Ed's notes, extracted by me and given a swift edit and revision by Ed, who is seeing to a hundred household chores that he's let slide for almost a year, including clearing a path through the basement so he can finally take down the family Christmas tree and all its decorations after FOUR YEARS; yes, that's how busy he's been):

For the last two decades, three merchant families have run various shops and stalls near that gate, shifting around in terms of actual premises as rents (and their fortunes) have gone up and down.
They are:

The Landaeyrs ("Lahan-DAY-urs"), consisting of four sons, six daughters, Emra Landaeyr who keeps to the back rooms, overseeing and cooking and keeping the family accounts, and her husband - - the main public face of the family, Ansraeve ("Ann-SRAY-vvve") Landaeyr, a tall, thin, jovial and wisecracking man who cheerfully gives directions and contact information (most of it correct) and whose family-run shops are always crammed, chaotic, dimly-lit dust-heaps of sundry goods, from candles and bits of rope and wire to pots, pans, tools, and crocks ("handy household items," in other words). Whenever it's open (usually dawn to well after dusk) their shop always sells large mugs of hot beef broth-and-onion soup, mug and all, for 1 cp. They usually have "stones" (we real-worlders might call them small, slim bricks) of imported cheese and imported pressed dates for sale, too, but aside from occasional jars and vials of spices from the docks, no other food. Their shops tend to be known simply as "Landaeyr's."

Havrath Hrungoun: this short, fat, sly, fast-talking "wheeler dealer" of a man lives alone except for a man-mountain of a bodyguard, the slow-witted (but VERY observant, and a deadly accurate thrower of handy items to bring down fleeing shoplifters) Goroth Marl. Hrungoun sells broadsheets, love poems ornately written on scrolls, sweets (including chocolates, the most popular being tiny statuettes of King Azoun and Queen Filfaeril; he calls the former "bites" and the latter "lickables"), brightly-decorated bowls and decanters and ewers, and other "gift" wares.
He employs a small army of street youths to hawk the broadsheets and to "talk up" his shop everywhere in the streets, performing the only Suzailan equivalent of hard-sell, loud radio ads (of the used-car dealer "so come on down to" sort). Hrungoun is cheerfully crooked, sells booze and drugs (and purported love potions that will either "make her wild for you" or "make you a rampant bull, all night long") from under his counter, and also provides a secure short-term "lockup" service for valuables (and, it's rumored, for slaves and kidnapped persons). He's also a panderer, providing willing bedmates for visitors to the city. These latter two services he manages with the help of his three shifty sons (and their wives and children) who live in various modest homes across the city, and whom Hrungoun supports - - so although none of them trust him (no sane person trusts him), they work loyally for him.

Tarpreskur's Conveyances: Naldron Tarpreskur, his wife Tlalla, and his daughters Gontra and Marvroune run a stables (buying, selling, and boarding and tending mounts and light draft beasts), a taxi service of sorts (known as a "fastcoach carry," though it tends to be three-wheeled, two seat open conveyances with rain-hoods like some early real-world cars had), and a small-wares delivery service (same as fastcoach, but for small crates, barrels, baskets, and suchlike of goods that can be easily carried and handled). All of these operate within Suzail's walls only. The tall, laconic, battered-looking Tarpreskur is an expert horse trainer and doctor, an experienced coach and wagon repairer, and he and his family make, repair, and sell rain-hoods for everyone's coaches (that is: hood-shaped awnings, both cloth and supporting framework, that fit over coach seats, and sometimes can be folded down or back, and sometimes have added fasten-on "full weather covers" to keep the conveyance dry when it's just going to be left standing in all weather for some time.

All three of these families are consistently located just within that city gate, and habitually answer questions about the city from arrivals through the gate (doing so eagerly and well, not grudgingly or in a pranksome, deliberately-inaccurate manner).



So saith Ed, with a little help from my whip. Garen Thal and other fans of matters Cormyrean, here's another tidbit from the pen of the master!
love to all,
THO

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Dark Wizard
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Posted - 31 May 2009 :  03:59:00  Show Profile Send Dark Wizard a Private Message
Greetings Lady THO,

Quick aside, any chance Ed can grab and share a random tidbit about the Realms from his basement notes on his way up?

I'm curious about a few things regarding Returned Abeir/Laerakond.

What inspired the shape of that landmass? What was the design process behind the continent?

Ed often designs and writes more than the books have space for. Is there material written and designed for Laerakond that didn't make it into the book? Enough for DDI articles perhaps?

Thanks in advance.
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 31 May 2009 :  16:09:19  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
Here's an extract from a quick e-mail from Ed, re. Dark Wizard's questions, which appear just above:

The shape of the landmass arose because I wanted two dragon-ruled kingdoms separated by a logical natural barrier (so, across the sea from each other, with harsh mountain terrain as the bridge) and because I wanted sea trade, lots of ports, and that same watery barrier (dominance of which is forever strategically important) to separate potentially-warring realms. The river serves the same purpose for the human Sword region. I was given the Dawn Titans, a wordcount, and "put in some dragon rulers; here's why," and from that tried to quickly build a continent that could function as a campaign setting all on its own (so overseas voyages or constructing/finding portals could be a campaign option, not a forced-on-the-DM necessity). Then I just imagined things, as I always do, made sure all the terrain options (jungle, subterranean, icy mountains, monster-roamed temperate forested woodlands, etc.) were included, drew the map, and sent it.
Yes, of COURSE there's material written and designed for Returned Abeir/Laerakond that didn't make it into the book. It would have to be rewritten, rounded out, and so on to make DDI articles, IF the copyright owner wants DDI articles using it (yes, I'll be suggesting it, and I see work on detailing Gontal - - my stuff had to be completely pruned to fit the FRCG space limitations - - has started).
When I get the chance (busy finishing up the 2008 Spin A Yarn tale right now), I'll answer Wooly's request for more on how I would use that landmass as part of the pre-Spellplague Realms. Promise. Sorry folks, but there's only one of me, and I have to do much more around the house these days as the passing years do their grim work and my wife's health slides.


So saith Ed. Who will, as he promises, return to"full bellow" ASAP.
love,
THO
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Dark Wizard
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Whoa that was swift. Thank you Lady THO and pass my thanks to Ed for taking the time out of his busy schedule to answer my question.
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crazedventurers
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Posted - 01 Jun 2009 :  11:06:25  Show Profile  Visit crazedventurers's Homepage Send crazedventurers a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
For the last two decades, three merchant families have run various shops and stalls near that gate, shifting around in terms of actual premises as rents (and their fortunes) have gone up and down.


Thank you both for the lovely lore (Cormyr thread updated)

Cheers

Damian
ps Best wishes to Jen

So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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Markustay
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Posted - 01 Jun 2009 :  17:12:10  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
I'm hoping to get a quick reply to this, because I am answering someone else's question over at the WotC boards, and want to make sure my info wasn't incorrect.

What part(s) of Golarion did Ed work on?

He is listed as one of the authors, but I'm not sure what he himself detailed.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 01 Jun 2009 17:12:33
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 01 Jun 2009 :  18:16:28  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi, Markustay. I'm not sure what the precise answer is, and I know Ed's at work on something set in Golarion for the future, but the short answer - - I can't consult with Ed just now, because I know I can't get hold of him - - is: the elves. Ed was handed a handful of paragraphs (all that had been set down as "the elves of Golarion") and asked to flesh it out into a culture and "character" for the race (not stats, but what elves are like, as a people). He did that, writing more text than would fit Paizo's immediate needs, as usual.
I can't tell you more than that, because that's all I know; I never saw what he was given or what he wrote, and have deduced this from passing comments and stuff I've noticed, as a professional snoop. He may well have written a lot more - - or not.
love,
THO
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Markustay
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Thank you for that quick reply, and if you don't mind, I will like to re-post that over at WotC for the people who have been wondering about this.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 01 Jun 2009 :  22:23:36  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
By all means, Markustay. Just please preface it with a reminder that Ed hasn't told me ANY of this, explicitly; I've snooped and asked obliquely and put two and two together.
Which is why I can't be sure of the extent of Ed's Golarion work. Nor, not having seen his original text, can I tell you how much of what he wrote made it into the printed sourcebooks, and how much it was altered (or not).
love,
THO

Edited by - The Hooded One on 01 Jun 2009 22:37:32
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Blueblade
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Dear Ed and Lady THO,
Because Halruaa and Netheril have or have had skyships, the idea of "contraption" flight (as opposed to aerial steeds) must be well-known in the Realms. Are the Lantanna or anyone else at work, pre-Spellplague, on new or alternative flying machines? Gliders? Dirigibles/balloons?
There are even floating motes in the original Realms (the Temple In the Sky); has anyone tried (again, pre-Spellplague) to make "new" floating or flying fortresses?
Thanks!
BB
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A Gavel
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Dear Ed and Lady THO,
I have a brief query about the etiquette, if any, of duels: are there usually "seconds"? A chance to fight to a lesser limit than death (first blood, or a fall, or some non-violent contest)? Are champions allowed? Hired champions? Deceptions regarding weapons? A "proper" size and nature of audience or duelling grounds?
Thank you.
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Broken Helm
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Posted - 02 Jun 2009 :  00:28:03  Show Profile  Visit Broken Helm's Homepage Send Broken Helm a Private Message
Ed and THO,
A quick campaign-related question: I want to have a PC find a painted portrait, of a person he doesn't know, but that he WILL know is "old" by the person's dress. Said person is a man of wealth, but not noble, depicted out-of-doors in a cloak, gloves, and a nice shirt and breeches, possibly with a sword scabbarded at his hip.
So . . . how can I, by the style/fashion of these new- and fine-looking clothes, make them obviously "old" by dating, so the PC will know this is long ago.
I guess what I'm asking is: how have styles of these sorts of clothes clearly and obviously changed over the last two centuries (pre-Spellplague)?
Thanks!
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Longtime Lurker
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Posted - 02 Jun 2009 :  00:33:13  Show Profile  Visit Longtime Lurker's Homepage Send Longtime Lurker a Private Message
Dear THO,
Can you tell us if Ed is a "foodie" who eats at classy restaurants a lot, or is a chef (which I'm defining here as someone who creates their own dishes, often, and feels comfortable doing so because they're very familiar with the properties and tastes of foods), or makes wine or cheese or farms or something of the sort?
Or does he truly "make it all up" when writing as Volo the restaurant critic?
I've always been curious about this . . .
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Baleful Avatar
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Dear Ed and THO,
I have a need to quickly name about a dozen villagers/farmers for mid- to northern-Cormyr, just pre-Spellplague. Could you give us some "typical" or common first names, that a LOT of people would have, so they seem ordinary?
Thanks!
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