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Knight of the Gate
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Posted - 31 Mar 2009 :  23:56:27  Show Profile Send Knight of the Gate a Private Message
I'll third (?) Bladewind and the Hamster-in-Chief's request on lyanthropic lore. while we're at it, though, the origin of vampirism in the Realms would be neat to know, too!

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The Sage
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Posted - 01 Apr 2009 :  00:18:34  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
Ed has touched on vampirism, briefly, in some of his previous replies, Knight. While your waiting for anything further from the Bearded One on the subject, you might want to review some of those past entries.

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Markustay
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Posted - 01 Apr 2009 :  02:19:59  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
Should we throw-in Mummy's and Flesh Golems too?

Just kidding... the Lycanthropy lore would be of great interest to me as well. My own 'Vampire History' is adapted from Marvel - when in doubt, turn to comics.

Thank You for the reply on Greentree Haven Ed, THO.

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skychrome
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Posted - 01 Apr 2009 :  03:01:23  Show Profile  Visit skychrome's Homepage Send skychrome a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Wow, just . . . wow.

(Oh, and thanks to Ed too, lady. )

Well, I certainly hope Shadowbane can rise to the challenge.




Wow Erik! If I hadn't promised you already to get Downshadow asap, then this praise should be one more good reason!
Gotta solve the logistics... Can't wait to read it!

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 01 Apr 2009 :  07:56:25  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Knight of the Gate

I'll third (?) Bladewind and the Hamster-in-Chief's request on lyanthropic lore. while we're at it, though, the origin of vampirism in the Realms would be neat to know, too!



Hamster-in-Chief... That's a new title for me!

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The Sage
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Posted - 01 Apr 2009 :  08:29:56  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Should we throw-in Mummy's and Flesh Golems too?
Well, I kinda like Paul Jaquay's stuff on mummies in the original Lords of Darkness. But I'd be curious to hear Ed's take as well.

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The Simbul
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Posted - 01 Apr 2009 :  14:26:59  Show Profile  Visit The Simbul's Homepage Send The Simbul a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Archmagus Brandon

Ed, is it true that The Simbul was raised and apprentaced by the Wychlaran before she became an apprentice to the former ruler of Aglarond (or was she the ruler's apprentice?)? If so, how long did that go on and is there any lore written on that subject? Is there ANYTHING, like a biography of the Simbul's early life, childhood and rise to power, or anything like that? I'd appreciate any clarification that any one could give me.

Thinking about it deeper, it would explain her battlerages she fell into before she and Elminster became involved, being raised by witches that rule a land of berserker's. I know that when Elminster first encountered her, he didn't know she was one of the Seven and almost killed her. But, what was the circumstances that led to her herritage being unknown. The Simbul has always been my second favorite Realms character and I know less about her than I'd like to.

Thanks in advance!

The vast majority of the lore you seek on the early life of the Simbul will be found in:

The Seven Sisters AD&D 2nd Edition game accessory
The Simbul's Gift, a novel by Lynn Abbey (specifically the prologue).

The Seven Sisters has about three paragraphs which touch upon her early childhood until the time Elminster discovered her in Aglarond several centuries later. The prologue of The Simbul's Gift consists of a few pages written in first-person as if it were an excerpt of a tome that exists in the realms, titled "The Concise Hisory of the Chosen Seven". It slightly expands upon the information on her in The Seven Sisters, specifically the circumstances of her becoming a Chosen of Mystra in the aftermath of a lover's death, and the motivation behind her hatred of the Red Wizards of Thay.

In either case however, the information is sparse. Beyond that, there is a short story about her in Dragon #242 that takes place in the Year of the Roaring Tempest (1016 DR), and the memory of Elminster when he first encountered her appears in Elminster in Hell in the Year of the Burning Steel (1246 DR). In terms of the timeline of the Realms, these are the earliest events of her life to be explored in published stories.

In any event, the vast majority of her deeds, exploits, and adventures are left to the imagination for the time being. There is about a 400 year gap between when she departs Rashemen at the age of 16 and when Elminster discovers her in Aglarond posing as the "apprentice" to Ilione. It is stated in the lore that during this time she wandered the realms in search of magic and then took her curiosity to the farthest reaches of the outer planes in search of answers of her heritage, and that she was approached by Mystra and became her Chosen after a lover had perished (which is expanded further in The Simbul's Gift). Little else however is known at present, other than her travels and adventures during this period elevated her skill with arcane magic well beyond that of her peers among the Chosen and nearly all of her enemies among the Red Wizards of Thay.
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Blueblade
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Posted - 02 Apr 2009 :  16:09:05  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Dear Ed and THO,
At the recent Ad Astra convention, one of the panelists (on a panel I attended that you weren't on) mentioned "Ed's pet peeve with Internet reviewers," but never said what it was.
So...what is this pet peeve, please?

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 02 Apr 2009 :  16:12:39  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Heh. I'm not Ed, obviously, but I'm guessing it was a reviewer castigating a book because the author didn't write the book the reviewer wanted them to.
Example: Ed, you wrote a new Elminster book but it wasn't the "Elminster and The Simbul, A Love Story" book I wanted to read, so therefore the book you DID write is by definition c**p.
Just a guess, but I'll lay serious coin I'm right.
We'll see.
love,
THO
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 02 Apr 2009 :  16:32:39  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Postscript: not applied just to Ed personally, of course, but whenever a reviewer does this. Ed thinks it's valid crit only when a writer markedly twists the "character" or origins or nature of a character to suit the plot of a new book, in a way that will quite rightly disappoint readers of earlier books.
Yet as I said, Ed's peeve could be something else entirely ...
love to all,
THO
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Knight of the Gate
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Posted - 02 Apr 2009 :  16:57:45  Show Profile Send Knight of the Gate a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Knight of the Gate

I'll third (?) Bladewind and the Hamster-in-Chief's request on lyanthropic lore. while we're at it, though, the origin of vampirism in the Realms would be neat to know, too!



Hamster-in-Chief... That's a new title for me!



Well, I doubt not that all the other hamsters defer to your wise judgment. I was gonna go with 'King Wooly' but 'Hamster-in-Chief' just sounds better... and it uses not one, but 2 hyphens!

Also, Sage thanks for the heads-up in re: Ed's prior commentary on vampirism in the Realms. I've just finished the 2008 thread and am onto 2007 now. I'll get it all eventually!

To The Bearded Creator: You, sir just made me go back on my word to give WoTC not one more red cent with that review of Downshadow; Amazon, here I come.

And to the Her Royal Flirtiness, the never-forgettable THO, a hearty !

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edappel
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Posted - 03 Apr 2009 :  02:15:35  Show Profile  Click to see edappel's MSN Messenger address Send edappel a Private Message
Well, I don't know how to begin everything that i have to say.
First thing, I'm brazilian.. So english is my second language, than, you could wait many writing mistakes.

But let's begin.

Sir Ed... I couldn't belive that was possible talking, or simply send a message directly to you. Here at Brazil we don't see this kind of treatman from the authors with their readers. I've already contacted with Elaine, Kemp and Lee Byers, that made my heart beat faster.. I've got truly amazed by the possibilites of talking with our idols.. But finding you here... My god... I play RPG since 97, and FR since 98, and like, probably many others have already said, without your work, my whole life and personality could be totally different. Congrats for everything that you have already done, you made a fantastic world that made thousands of fans.

Well, in the last years I started to read FR novels, and got addicted with it. I've already read 42 novels, "Making of a mage" and "Elminster in Hell" are on my already read list, and now I'm starting a campaign to make FR novels more famous here at Brazil, 'cause even having only Icewind Dale trilogy translated, half of the role players can read english. I've already got a message from Richard Lee Byers to us, I wish I could get other messages, from other authors to compilate everything and send to many forums and communitys so we could get more people to read FR books. Obviously, I'm asking to you if you could send this kind of message to help my task of making you world's novels more famous.

My second question, requires an explanation...

Two of my friends that plays on my group are in jail... One of them, Alan Müller, is my DM and my son's godfather... He is, truly, one of the best person that I have already met, but one year ago, he started to work with his brother... His brother had some ilegal casino-machine on my city, and the federal police got them... He started to work with him cause he needed some money, and now, one of my best-friend, that plays with me 'til the beginning, that showed me my first FR novel, and is a ####### fan of you, is passing through his hell...
Since that, tendays ago, we're sending some letters to him, to give strength on this dark moment of his life. I expect that in one month he will get out, but we will continue sending messages to him, and our other friend that worked with him.
So, I asks you, what would Elminster, the Sage of the Realm, would say to enlighten their minds? Probably Alan and Fabiano, our two chaotic-good adventurers, would enjoy his message more than any of ours. It would be an undescritible pleasure.
If there is some problem speaking on the name of Elminster, or one of the Seven Sisters that would be great too, I'm sure that our Sage of THIS "unreal world" (talking about planet earth), Ed Greenwood, could find the right words to give courage to their hearts.

Thanks, and please, I beg you, help me help them.
(My god, I've spent one hour writing this message)

Ed Appel

--- Ed Appel

*** I'm a brazilian FR fan. So, feel free to correct my writing mistakes to improve my english.
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Broken Helm
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Posted - 03 Apr 2009 :  22:55:32  Show Profile  Visit Broken Helm's Homepage Send Broken Helm a Private Message
Dear Ed and Lady THO,
I recently dropped in to a farm co-op to try to buy some tools, and some farmers were gathered talking about buying seeds. Which got me to thinking, and to asking this: in the Realms, is it the norm for farmers/villagers/anyone to harvest "extra" seed for sale, or do they tend to keep it for their own use and to trade with peddlers/caravan merchants (is it that valuable?)? If storing seed for later use, is it usually hidden? How is it guarded against damp, birds, rodents, theft, etc.?
Thanks!
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Baleful Avatar
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Posted - 03 Apr 2009 :  23:02:46  Show Profile  Visit Baleful Avatar's Homepage Send Baleful Avatar a Private Message
Huh. Well, while you were out shopping and overhearing farmers, I was at home doing my taxes - - which got ME to thinking:
Ed, in Cormyr, if a commoner owes taxes but can't pay them, what happens? Is there a grace period? Does the tax collector "run accounts" of outstanding amounts for a certain time, or until what's owed really amounts to enough to equal something (a horse, an ox, a building, land, a wagon) that can be seized? Or are things worth a lot ever seized to be sold to collect a little? Does the Crown keep the rest of the wealth when something's sold, or does it get returned to the person they seized the sold goods from? Can you do labor for the Crown, in lieu of paying? Or be jailed for debts, and be forced to labor as a prisoner? If so, doing what?
Hmmm, seems like the questions are running away with me. So I'll stop now, and be content with whatever you want to say on this topic, whenever you can. Thanks!
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Markustay
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Posted - 04 Apr 2009 :  05:13:36  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
Just re-reading all your early (pre-TSR) FR stuff in Dragon, and I note that the Calender of Harptos was created by Harptos of Kaalinth.

Where is/was Kaalinth?

(and if it's on the current map and I'm just not seeing it, my apologies in advance)

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 04 Apr 2009 :  15:46:09  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Markustay, Ed's incommunicado for yesterday and today, but I recall that Kaalinth doesn't exist any more (so you're not "missing seeing it" on the maps). If I remember rightly, it's "drowned beneath the waves," but where and why I've forgotten.
Ed will elucidate, of course.
love,
THO
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Malcolm
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Posted - 04 Apr 2009 :  15:48:01  Show Profile  Visit Malcolm's Homepage Send Malcolm a Private Message
Dear Ed and Lady THO,
One of my players asked me about The Fall of Stars, and I'm blanking on this. What is it and where is it, please?
Anyone?
Getting old . . .
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Blueblade
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Posted - 04 Apr 2009 :  15:51:19  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Dear Ed and THO,
I dimly recall Ed discussing an adventure (that I don't think was ever released) with a TSR designer at one of those long-ago GenCons, that featured a mountain gorge crossed by a rickety dwarven or gnomish mining railway - - a trestle with tracks that unpowered ore-cars were pushed along.
My question is: are dwarf or gnome railways, in mines or mountains, a "standard" Realms feature, or rare and unusual? In either case, what can Ed tell us about them?
Thanks!
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 04 Apr 2009 :  15:53:43  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm

Dear Ed and Lady THO,
One of my players asked me about The Fall of Stars, and I'm blanking on this. What is it and where is it, please?
Anyone?
Getting old . . .



It's an adventurer's club in Harrowdale. Check out pages 143-8 of Volo's Guide to the Dalelands, which is a free download from the Wizards downloads page.

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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 04 Apr 2009 15:54:27
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Baleful Avatar
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Canada
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Posted - 04 Apr 2009 :  15:57:29  Show Profile  Visit Baleful Avatar's Homepage Send Baleful Avatar a Private Message
Dear Ed and Lovely Lady THO,
I have a question about something Ed was talking about with some gamers at a recent GenCon (I was listening in; if Wizards wanted to be really brilliant, they'd schedule some "just hang with Ed" events in small rooms and set up the chairs in a circle, so Ed could just "talk Realms" with any of us who want to show up; how about, Wizards? Please?).
Ed was mentioning an incident in a small village where a young girl killed a stirge by hitting it with her yarting (guitar; apparently she was part of a local family of musicians, non-adventurers who played and sang at local events). Ed said it wasn't the blow that killed the beastie, but an electrical discharge caused when SOMETHING broke off the yarting. My question is: what was that something, and why was it so charged with (killing) electricity? Was it magical? Why would a kid be using an instrument that could kill her, and/or was magical?
No rush on this, I was just curious. Every so often I remember this and wonder about, and I finally remembered it whilst I happened to be sitting at a Net-connected computer, so . . .
Thanks!
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The Sage
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Posted - 04 Apr 2009 :  17:11:08  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Markustay, Ed's incommunicado for yesterday and today, but I recall that Kaalinth doesn't exist any more (so you're not "missing seeing it" on the maps). If I remember rightly, it's "drowned beneath the waves," but where and why I've forgotten.
Ed will elucidate, of course.
love,
THO

I think this has come up before. Another scribe was asking you/Ed about Kaalinth -- and Ed said that the "long-dead" description referred to more than just the wizard itself. A long-dead land, perhaps?

Anyways, it was when the Grand History PDF was still in circulation. I'll have to check.

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Broken Helm
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Posted - 04 Apr 2009 :  20:10:52  Show Profile  Visit Broken Helm's Homepage Send Broken Helm a Private Message
Dear Ed and THO,
A followup question: in the Dales, would a "root cellar" usually be under a house, or dug into a hill nearby (that is, on its own, like an outhouse).
Thanks.
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Blueblade
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Posted - 04 Apr 2009 :  20:15:14  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Dear Ed and Lovely Lady THO,
A Realmslore question for Cormyr and the Dales (and Sembia and the Stonelands) circa "just before the Spellplague."
Are there any "popular heroes" known in this region, who are alive and active at this time (from Robin Hood types to mysterious-identity masked and costumed sorts)?
Thanks!
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Markustay
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I've noted at least one Realm, along with many islands and locales (and a penninsula!) that have all been 'drowned' off the Swordcoast at some point, and methinks there was some MAJOR tidal-activity during the last millenia (I've noted some Tidal Waves mentioned in the GHotRs).

There is a mention of 'Global Warming' in the past few hundred years (Pelvuria 'released' Vassa), and a rotational-shift (Meteor strike?) in 1038 DR (mentioned in The Great Glacier).

One would assume the major climactic changes (it sounds like Toril was put under a mini-Ice Age for awhile) caused much havoc along the coasts, especially if I'm correct about that meteor strike. That would explain why so much 'went missing' in the past five hundred years or so out at sea. The flooding alone from the recent warming (Glacier melting) could account for many sea-level lands being drowned.

Does this sound about right, Ed?

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 04 Apr 2009 :  20:18:45  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hmm. I THINK Jack o' Flames and the Knight of the Moon are both still alive, just to name two.
Ed will of course give us the definitive answer...
love,
THO
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