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ranger_of_the_unicorn_run
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Posted - 03 Mar 2009 :  21:10:35  Show Profile Send ranger_of_the_unicorn_run a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Aysen


You know, if such a series of fan-requested short stories were made available via subscription to DnD Insider, I would very much consider purchasing a monthly package.


I would still much rather have them published as a book. It makes me happy every time I pick up one of my old Realms of____ books. I love those things. I'm still much more of a book reader than an online RPGer, so that's just my two cents.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 04 Mar 2009 :  00:11:34  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay


'Immaculate Conception' has only been around since 1854 (declared by Pope Pius IX) - and a lot of our 'Puritan' thinking stems from that.



This is off-topic, but I'd like to point out the Catholic doctrine of the Immaculate Conception refers to Mary being conceived without Original Sin, not to Jesus being conceived within a virgin.*

You are correct to say that it's a relatively recent doctrine, though. Anyway, I could chat with you and everyone else for much longer about all this but I'm trying hard not to cross the line to much with regular "chatter."



*Please note, all, that I'm not saying I believe in this or that anyone else should, it's just that this is a topic I'm happen to know a little about, and I wanted to share what I know.

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Jakk
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hooboy, Aysen: your Grand Cabal questions have all bounced off tall, shiny, heavily-overlapping NDAs! (Which should give you a bit of a hint about what certain writers and designers think is "unfinished business" they hope to get around to finishing, but isn't, I'd guess, much consolation to you.
So, sorry, but Ed can't (right now, at least) answer any of these. They'll be put in that special lined pigeonhole above his desk, awaiting the day when he can say more . . . though that day may well be years off . . .
love,
THO



No surprise there... but the only way I see these stories being told is if the "new Realms" fails catastrophically in comparison to the "classic Realms", and I haven't been able to find any numbers to confirm or deny this. I just hope that someone who can do something about it realizes that What Came Before was greater than What Comes After. As to "Before" and "After" what, opinions differ; some say the Spellplague, some say the return of the Archwizards, some say the Time of Troubles. Maybe we just need a DC comic book series: Crisis on Infinite Torils...

Oh... and the Realms since the Time of Troubles has become a haven for NDAs of a different sort... the Nearly Daily Apocalypse. Just another reason why we need to do away with all sorts of NDAs... Enough said on this matter by me.

Anyway, I'm also interested in the Grand Cabal, so hopefully this tale can be told sooner rather than later...

I've been very patient (largely as a consequence of finding things other than the Internet to keep me busy), but I'd love to know if there has been any progress on the release of the Cormyr Lineage. I think that every other question I have for Ed either has been asked already and is either answered or awaiting reply, or will impact directly on the chest of one of those aforementioned Adamantine NDA Golems. If I were living anywhere near Ontario, I would apply to be Ed's Lhaeo; I even have royal ancestry, albeit far distant and quite diluted, but a great many of us can say that. Sadly, I'm in the Upper Fraser Valley near the West Coast, and the commute is a bit much... unless I win the next big lottery jackpot. The best job I ever had was as research assistant to myself in university; sadly, the pay was lousy.

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.

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createvmind
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Posted - 04 Mar 2009 :  02:03:11  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
Is Nesherrlageth, queen of medusas a creature in faerun known to Ed?
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 04 Mar 2009 :  03:56:53  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Ahem:
"And this post begs the question... is 'pigeon' Ed's pet name for you, lady THO?"
Snort.
Markustay, dear, you say such NICE things to warm this aging lady's . . . heart.
Ah, to be twenty again, and have those twenty-some years back to be the scourge of gamers (or to be scourged BY gamers ).
So go ahead: ruffle my plumage.
love,
THO

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GoCeraf
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Posted - 04 Mar 2009 :  05:32:29  Show Profile  Visit GoCeraf's Homepage Send GoCeraf a Private Message
I dunno, THO. I'm sitting on 22 and am at times simultaneously frustrated by lingering boyhoods and overwhelmed by looming manhoods.

There... uh... there aren't any euphemisms there. Just a little crazy these days.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 04 Mar 2009 :  06:51:03  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by GoCeraf

I dunno, THO. I'm sitting on 22 and am at times simultaneously frustrated by lingering boyhoods and overwhelmed by looming manhoods.

There... uh... there aren't any euphemisms there. Just a little crazy these days.



I'm glad you said there weren't any euphemisms there. It was a disturbing picture, otherwise.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Ah, to be twenty again, and have those twenty-some years back to be the scourge of gamers (or to be scourged BY gamers ).
love,
THO
Fear not. I doubt you've lost any of your particular "Edge," my lady. And you do know what they say about older women and experience, right?

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gomez
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Posted - 04 Mar 2009 :  08:08:12  Show Profile  Visit gomez's Homepage Send gomez a Private Message
The real interesting parts of life start at forty!
Ok, that isn't exactly true, but since that's the part where I am at, it is the most interesting part *now*...
Even then, THO, I am sure most of the gamers at the boards are happy to scourge you whenever you desire.
With or without pegs or pigeons.

And back on topic with a question:
Where in the Dalelands would be the place to find the best cherries*?

Gomez
*) and I do mean the fruit
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Raelan
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Posted - 04 Mar 2009 :  10:05:01  Show Profile  Visit Raelan's Homepage Send Raelan a Private Message
Hi, Ed.

I've been wondering a few things regarding the Mad Mage of Undermountain for some time. He's always been a rather enigmatic figure in the Realms, and I'd like to know a bit more, both for my own edification and for the purposes of using some of his ongoing works when running a game.

Would you be willing to offer a conjecture as to what Halaster would've been doing with with his post-Elminster in Hell life had he not died and the Spellplague never happened? What would his goals have been; what type of plots would he have been engaged in; how would his interactions with his apprentices, associates, and people in general have changed; and would he descend into madness once again as a result of the influence of the enchantments of Undermountain? Did he have machinations in motion at the time of his canonical death that you could go into and extrapolate upon as if he hadn't been killed?

Any and all info would be appreciated. :)

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Wooly Rupert
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Ooh, good question, Raelan!

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The Sage
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I agree. And it touches on something I've been thinking about since we had that discussion about Halaster and the Spellplague a short while back. But I'm not quite done tinkering with that theory yet, so I'll remain curious about what Ed will say in reply.

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Alisttair
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Posted - 04 Mar 2009 :  15:44:50  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage  Click to see Alisttair's MSN Messenger address Send Alisttair a Private Message
Can't read anything, web page blocked (banned word)

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Alisttair
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Oh goodie...the topic has gone past pages 24 and 25 that both had a banned word so I couldn't get to them. Thank god for high forum traffic

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 04 Mar 2009 :  18:23:13  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello again, all. A swift Realmslore reply from Ed of the Greenwood to this query, from gomez: "Where in the Dalelands would be the place to find the best cherries*?"
[* = and I do mean the fruit]
Ed replies:


At the market in Highmoon, in Deepingdale (mainly brought up from Sembia).
The Dales tend to be too cold and have too many birds for good crops of good cherries; crabapples serve that local culinary function in most dales. That said, most of the more southerly and easterly dales have abundant wild sour cherries, which get picked and used in tarts and pies and in marinades for meat and poultry dishes (said cherries tend to be small and to get picked green, before the birds want to have at them, by children sent out to do this time-consuming task - - and said cherries get added to lots of other fruits and vegetables for pickling, to yield food in winter to go with the copious venison, rabbit, and onthur (squirrels).
Cherries aren't unknown in the Dales, and are avidly devoured, but they are usually imported, and therefore cost a lot more than wild local fruit that's free for the picking (such as gooseberries, currants, black raspberries, wild strawberries, and the like). BTW, excellent cherry brandy is made just outside Yhaunn and Ordulin, in Sembia, and that gets widely sold throughout the Dales, too.


So saith Ed. Who was pleased by Raelan's question, too, so I suspect we'll see an answer to that ere long.
love to all,
THO
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crazedventurers
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Posted - 04 Mar 2009 :  18:52:31  Show Profile  Visit crazedventurers's Homepage Send crazedventurers a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Ed replies:
At the market in Highmoon, in Deepingdale (mainly brought up from Sembia).

crabapples serve that local culinary function in most dales.

onthur (squirrels).

BTW, excellent cherry brandy is made just outside Yhaunn and Ordulin, in Sembia, and that gets widely sold throughout the Dales, too.


This perfectly sums up why Ed is the 'world builder extraordinaire'. We don't just get one piece of lore to a simple and elegant question but FOUR.

Thank you Ed for caring and sharing, best wishes to you and yours.



Damian


So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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Aysen
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On the heels of crazedventurers' compliment, I'd like to ask Ed an additional "world-building" question regarding the migration patterns of a few non-fantastic animals. I'm almost positive there's no NDA barrier to bounce off for this one

1.) With regard to whales, are the migration patterns similar to what is seen off the coast of the Americas (birthing in the warmer southern waters of the Shining Sea then migration towards the northern reaches of the Trackless Sea for food?) How does the migration cycle flow in the Sea of Fallen Stars?

2.) Keeping in mind that Faerun has a LOT more hazards of all sorts than Earth, are there any established and well-known (to humanoids) migrations of animals that humans make note of for reasons other than food ?
The last part is emphasized to exclude the Realmsian cultures that are migratory because they are dependent on one or more types of herd animals for their food/livelihood (Tuigan, Shaaryan, etc.) I'm hoping for Ed's Faerunian counterparts of say, "swallows at San Juan Capistrano" or the monarch butterfly migration. Something that has no major effect on life in the Realms, but would definitely be noticed by certain groups if the migration ceased or shifted.

Thanks Ed and LHO!


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Penknight
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Another question, if that's all right. I've been looking over Volo's Guide to Waterdeep and was recently wondering how much a room at The Raging Lion would be, as well as a room in (from Volo's Guide to the Sword Coast) The Halfway Inn. Also, how much does it usually cost to winter in Waterdeep for an adventurer? Do you look at the prices for a tenday (highest or lowest) and multiply by three for the month and go from there, or is the cost lower/higher? Thank you from me and my players.

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Purple Dragon Knight
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hello again, all. A swift Realmslore reply from Ed of the Greenwood to this query, from gomez: "Where in the Dalelands would be the place to find the best cherries*?"
[* = and I do mean the fruit]
Ed replies:


At the market in Highmoon, in Deepingdale (mainly brought up from Sembia).
The Dales tend to be too cold and have too many birds for good crops of good cherries; crabapples serve that local culinary function in most dales. That said, most of the more southerly and easterly dales have abundant wild sour cherries, which get picked and used in tarts and pies and in marinades for meat and poultry dishes (said cherries tend to be small and to get picked green, before the birds want to have at them, by children sent out to do this time-consuming task - - and said cherries get added to lots of other fruits and vegetables for pickling, to yield food in winter to go with the copious venison, rabbit, and onthur (squirrels).
Cherries aren't unknown in the Dales, and are avidly devoured, but they are usually imported, and therefore cost a lot more than wild local fruit that's free for the picking (such as gooseberries, currants, black raspberries, wild strawberries, and the like). BTW, excellent cherry brandy is made just outside Yhaunn and Ordulin, in Sembia, and that gets widely sold throughout the Dales, too.


So saith Ed. Who was pleased by Raelan's question, too, so I suspect we'll see an answer to that ere long.
love to all,
THO


Hmm... sour cherries! during my childhood in the Province of Quebec, we used to go in the woods and find bushes replete with those, sit on a big rock nearby and stuff our mouths full of the stuff for hours on end. It's so tart that your tongue actually swell after a few minutes, and you get to a point where you can't talk... we'd make it back to the village mumbling under our breaths, slurring so much adults would think we'd been drinking!

My mother and her brothers used to do the same as kids, and she actually required emergency surgery after her appendix burst from swallowing to many sour cherry pits as a child... One of her best lines, "It's like someone holding a dagger in your right flank the whole way down to the hospital, and jiggling it around once in a while, just to make sure you remember how stupid you were..."



Ahhhh... memories!
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Knight of the Gate
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Wow... thanks to Ed and the Lady! Out of town for a few days, so I'm sorry for not saying so sooner. As Ed has family in my neck of the woods, it goes without saying that should he find himself this far south anytime soon, he has a place to stay (and THO, I'm sure I could find *some* sort of arrangement for you down here, too...).
I'd love to add a question to the pile, but (frankly) I'm too busy reading past years' 'So Saith Ed' replies to make certain that the question I ask hasn't been covered already.
Though, on second thought: I've always been curious about the extent of the empire of the Titans which was destroyed in the creation of the Sea of Fallen Stars.
1)Did these people worship the giant pantheon (Annam, etc) or were they 'above' such mortal concerns?
2)What sort of building did they undertake, if any? What style of architecture did they employ
3)What sort of relations did they have with the 'lesser' giants? and
4)Are there any undersea ruins of their culture? Perhaps known to the Sea Elves?
Thanks in advance, to Ed and to the Lady.

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The Hooded One
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Penknight, I know Ed's reply re. Waterdeep will have to include "it depends." Here's the thing: rents are low, but costs of food and drink (and firewood/coal!) go up as the winter wears on and things get scarcer. So adventurers who "lay in" large food stores and can dine on potatoes and pickled things and smoked meat will be able to live far more cheaply than someone who insists on fresh fruit throughout the cold months . . .
But of course, Ed will answer definitively (soon, I hope).
love,
THO
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Gang Falconhand
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Posted - 05 Mar 2009 :  16:44:21  Show Profile  Visit Gang Falconhand's Homepage  Click to see Gang Falconhand's MSN Messenger address Send Gang Falconhand a Private Message
Another question for Ed:

What symbols or heraldic devices did the Vyshaan Clan use to identify themselves?

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Penknight
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Penknight, I know Ed's reply re. Waterdeep will have to include "it depends." Here's the thing: rents are low, but costs of food and drink (and firewood/coal!) go up as the winter wears on and things get scarcer. So adventurers who "lay in" large food stores and can dine on potatoes and pickled things and smoked meat will be able to live far more cheaply than someone who insists on fresh fruit throughout the cold months . . .
But of course, Ed will answer definitively (soon, I hope).
love,
THO

Ok, I'll look forward to hearing his answer, then. And I appreciate your information too, noble lady. Also, have your characters wintered in Waterdeep before, or do you normally choose another city? Just curious on that, I guess.

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Markustay
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quote:
Originally posted by Gang Falconhand

Another question for Ed:

What symbols or heraldic devices did the Vyshaan Clan use to identify themselves?

Great Question.

For some reason, a picture of the 'German Eagle' popped-into my head. Don't know why my brain went there...

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Having started to finish re-reading the Cormyr trilogy in the right order, these questions arise:
What happened to the Scepter of Lords? It isn't mentioned after Alavara's death.
WHat was the crown on the Scepter that Rowen said he drained of magic? The description fits the Crown of Iliphar - later the Crown of Faerlthann - but that would be in the hands of the Royal Family, wouldn't it?

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Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.

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