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Malcolm
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Posted - 09 Feb 2009 :  23:57:03  Show Profile  Visit Malcolm's Homepage Send Malcolm a Private Message
Hi, Ed and THO. I echo the good wishes, and (heh) like Blueblade, bring yet another question for your ever-higher piles of questions. This one is pretty easy.
For a TYPICAL inn maidservant or manservant in Suzail
AND (same question)
for one in any of the Dales,
I know they can tell an outlander from far away by they accent with which they speak Common, but how good are they at correctly identifying the general whereabouts of where someone stopping at the inn came from?
I know some will be good at this and some bad, but what's typical?
Thanks!
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The Sage
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Posted - 09 Feb 2009 :  23:59:51  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Iím probably going to be delayed on the Haldoneir lasses reply for a day or so, thanks to a family emergency, but I WILL reply. Promise.
I hope it's nothing too serious, my Lady? Wishing you well and a safe return.

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krownhunter07
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  00:56:45  Show Profile  Visit krownhunter07's Homepage  Click to see krownhunter07's MSN Messenger address Send krownhunter07 a Private Message
Hello Ed, I'm new to posting here at the Keep, but I'd really like to know a few things you might have a mind to answer for me...

Firstly, do you know, or could you come up with, any information about where Evermeet is now and what is around it? Still an island or part of a larger area? Friends, enemy's, a little history about what's happened since the Spellplague?

Also, any details on the other Elf blades?

Thanks in advance!

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Daviot
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  01:15:21  Show Profile  Visit Daviot's Homepage  Send Daviot an AOL message Send Daviot a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by krownhunter07

Hello Ed, I'm new to posting here at the Keep, but I'd really like to know a few things you might have a mind to answer for me...

Firstly, do you know, or could you come up with, any information about where Evermeet is now and what is around it? Still an island or part of a larger area? Friends, enemy's, a little history about what's happened since the Spellplague?

Also, any details on the other Elf blades?

Thanks in advance!



Welcome to Candlekeep, krownhunter! While waiting for your reply, you might want to start with p. 132 of the 4e Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide.

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  04:28:57  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by krownhunter07

Also, any details on the other Elf blades?



Well, the Crownblade is back in the hands of the ruler of Myth Drannor. As for the Warblade, it's been bonded to a rapscallion half-elven ranger from Aglarond who stumbled upon it while helping some adventurers free Shadowdale from the oppressive army of Zhents, Cyricists, Sharrans and drow. ()

The Artblade, I believe, is still missing.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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sfdragon
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  11:02:39  Show Profile Send sfdragon a Private Message
and that blade is likely under a huge NDA.....

oh and will there be a new Villian for 4e realms with the letters NDA in its name???

why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power


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Markustay
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  18:59:40  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
The National Disaster Alliance?

I had an idea for a post-Spellplague group that was in charge of distributing 'relief efforts' from Cormyr and Luruar to 'less fortunate' regions. The group would have 'gone bad' after awhile, basically selling the stuff on the black market, rather then handing it out to the needy as they are supposed to.

I'm thinking the involvement of some consortium - the Zhents are out - but perhaps the Rundeen or some-such - acting like the 'warlords' in Africa are with the Red Cross stuff, or like Sadam Hussein's generals did with the relief sent into Iraq (having just seent he BBC special about him, it inspired me with this plotline).

Also, some of the less-stellar info that has become known about FEMA comes to mind.

Anyway, I don't want to detract from Ed's thread, but you just gave me a name for my group (and using 'NDA' in-game is just too much fun to pass up).

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  19:24:09  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
Use Steven Schend's joke for the NDA --

quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

If you were referring to the Vaults of Uvaeren, they're under guard by a new Trio Nefarious--Naarlayx, Dhoarkath, and Axarark, three demons bound solely for the purposes of keeping those things secret.


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The Sage
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  22:54:43  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Use Steven Schend's joke for the NDA --

quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

If you were referring to the Vaults of Uvaeren, they're under guard by a new Trio Nefarious--Naarlayx, Dhoarkath, and Axarark, three demons bound solely for the purposes of keeping those things secret.



Heh. I actually canonised that in my Realms when Steven first mentioned it.

I've still got players who don't realise what it really is in reference to.

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Hawkfeather
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Brazil
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Posted - 11 Feb 2009 :  00:48:02  Show Profile  Visit Hawkfeather's Homepage Send Hawkfeather a Private Message
Hello, Ed! One of my players asked me this morning about the relationships between the cities of the Vast. He also wants to know more about how the laws of one city affects the others (specifically Calaunt, Tantras, Ravens Bluff and Procampur - but feel free to share more information about other cities!! Please!!). For example, if a someone commits a crime in one city and hides in another one, the criminal could be sent back to be judged? A representant of the offended city could enter in another city to arrest the criminal?

Could you help me give him the answers?

Thanks in advance!

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 11 Feb 2009 :  01:39:41  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin: youíre VERY welcome. Iím probably going to be delayed on the Haldoneir lasses reply for a day or so, thanks to a family emergency, but I WILL reply. Promise.



Thank you--and take your time, family comes first. Like Sage and the others I hope it's nothing too serious.

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Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 11 Feb 2009 02:19:42
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 11 Feb 2009 :  02:55:45  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Thanks, R-F. Off that goes to Ed; I know it'll make him feel better.
Hawkfeather, re. your Vast question, I hope you'd like an answer for pre-Spellplague, because I already know that after the Spellplague begins, one of those dreaded NDAs descends on that area.
I expect to hear something from Ed by tomorrow, or the late other end of today. The Realms is ours, scribes; enjoy it until then.
love to all,
THO
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Hawkfeather
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Posted - 11 Feb 2009 :  11:38:43  Show Profile  Visit Hawkfeather's Homepage Send Hawkfeather a Private Message
My lovely THO, you're right: I'd like an answer for a pre-Spellplague Realms.

Thanks again!
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 11 Feb 2009 :  15:43:36  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
You're very welcome.
gomez and Zandilar, while we're waiting for Ed's proper answer to gomez's request for terms for transgendered, I came across this in my old Realmslore notes (i.e. from Ed, during play, years back):

A warrior of either gender who dresses as the other gender (usually to get a job as a guard, bodyguard, or just plain soldier) is called a "winkhelm" in the Sword Coast North (as in: under the armor waits a surprise, to most; the term has NOTHING to do with behaviour, e.g. flirtatious, effeminate, or whatever, and is not pejorative; it's used with about the same casualness as saying, "He be a left-hander with a bow, sir" or "a bit shy on hearing right now on his right side, after that knock on the helm he took a tenday back, but 'twill come back, no fear; has before").

So saith Ed, years ago.
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gomez
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Netherlands
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Posted - 11 Feb 2009 :  16:26:59  Show Profile  Visit gomez's Homepage Send gomez a Private Message
A good word - one which people without knowledge of the slang might confuse with an obscure military term, which is always a plus if you want things to stay a surpise...
After hearing 'brightlass' in a way different context, I had come up with 'swordlass' (as in: a girl that carries her own 'blade'). I am not particularly good with such words but I thought it sounded reasonably Realmsian.

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 11 Feb 2009 :  19:14:19  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Yes, a good coining.
As it happens, Ed uses "swordlass" to mean "lesbian female adventurer, unattached by choice." (The reason for "sword" should, of course, be obvious.)
love,
THO
Edit: not used in printed Realmslore for two reasons: TSR didn't deal with sexual matters of this sort, and "swordlass" also had an "innocent" meaning, too: young (not veteran) female adventurer.

Edited by - The Hooded One on 11 Feb 2009 19:15:28
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The Red Walker
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Posted - 11 Feb 2009 :  22:58:00  Show Profile  Send The Red Walker a Yahoo! Message Send The Red Walker a Private Message
Just picked up Dark Lord and when I got it home I was overjoyed to see it checks in at 500 pages!
That my only problem with Ed's FR novels, 310-320 pages is not enough room to fit them. Will this be typical of his Falconfar novels?

And lovely THO, I need to decide rather to read Dark Lord or Dark Warrior rising next, and with spring coming closer on the farm may Only have the chance to enjoy one until summer. Can you give us a hint as to each novels feel compared to each other and to Ed's latest realms works?

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Zandilar
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Posted - 11 Feb 2009 :  23:07:08  Show Profile  Visit Zandilar's Homepage Send Zandilar a Private Message
Heya,

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi, Zandilar. THO sent me your last few posts - - along with the missives from everyone else these last few days, too, and to Rinonalyrna Fathomlin: youíre VERY welcome. Iím probably going to be delayed on the Haldoneir lasses reply for a day or so, thanks to a family emergency, but I WILL reply. Promise.


<snip reply>

Thank you for yet another very interesting look into the workings of Cormyr!

I keep getting caught up by my own real world sensibilities, which are sometimes difficult to see around... So what I've come away with from that is a noble can get away with murder, slavery, and other treacherous acts by just being cool, calm, collected, and making sure they aren't caught in the act, or can wash their hands of it and adequately shift blame... Reminds me a little of Drow society - do whatever you want to whomever you want, just don't get caught.

So how would Azoun V's decree that "freemen" are entitled to trials before their peers impact on this, if at all? The nobles fought tooth and nail against this, because it would impact on their "rights". Do you think Azoun and then Foril would work to change the status quo of society - so that nobles can no longer get away with selling their own kin into slavery, or cutting up whatever commoner (aka freemen) they feel like into pieces and then disposing of them? Is Alusair as Steel Regent trying to make changes? Or does she think her rule is precarious enough as it is and will leave that all this her nephew and descendants?

Zandilar
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~audaces fortuna iuvat~

As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.

The Sunlord left Elversult the same day in humilitation, and was never heard from again.
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Zandilar
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Australia
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Posted - 11 Feb 2009 :  23:15:02  Show Profile  Visit Zandilar's Homepage Send Zandilar a Private Message
Heya,

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Yes, a good coining.
As it happens, Ed uses "swordlass" to mean "lesbian female adventurer, unattached by choice." (The reason for "sword" should, of course, be obvious.)
love,
THO


I couldn't leave this one alone!

But but but... We don't always want a 'blade' of our own! No 'sword' envy here!

Zandilar
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~audaces fortuna iuvat~

As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.

The Sunlord left Elversult the same day in humilitation, and was never heard from again.

Edited by - Zandilar on 11 Feb 2009 23:15:30
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 12 Feb 2009 :  03:56:35  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Heh. Zandilar, I'm thinking it's a reference to the sort of sword that's spelled D-I-L-D-etc. Ahem.
The sense I get from Ed is that Aluzair as Regent VERY MUCH was changing (or trying to change) the "rights" and influence and roles of nobles, with a LOT of support from "her blades" (the young nobles who'd ridden the Stonelands with her [yes, in all senses of "ridden"], knew and trusted her, and saw something of her vision of what the realm had to become . . . either her way, or a bloodier way, through a commoner uprising in which a lot of nobles would lose their heads), and that these changes, albeit with backlash resistance, would continue after her regency ended.
Red Walker, the sequels to both DARK LORD and DARK WARRIOR RISING are out, or very soon will be, and there should be a third book in both series, though I have no idea when the third Niflheim (that's the Dark Warrior series, from Tor) will appear.
Here's a quicky overview for each series:
- - the Falconfar trilogy from Solaris/Black Library (Simon & Shuster in the US) consists of 1. DARK LORD, 2. ARCH WIZARD (out very soon), and 3. FALCONFAR (probably out in the fall). It's the story of a fantasy writer in our world who is startled to discover that Falconfar, the fantasy world he thought he created, seems to be real - - and he's thrust into it. He's an ordinary guy, NOT an action hero, but people in Falconfar seem to think he's . . . the Dark Lord. I won't ruin it by saying more. Much of the action takes place tramping across a medieval-era fantasy world.
- - the Niflheim series from Tor Books consists of 1. DARK WARRIOR RISING and 2. DARK VENGEANCE (with a possible future sequel). Far more than the Falconfar series, each book in this series can be read as a stand-alone novel. They concern a subterranean world dominated by cruel dark elves who are NOT the drow of D&D (no spider goddess), but who take human slaves by raiding the surface world and snatching children. As the first book begins, one human slave, Orivon Firefist, sees a chance to escape his captivity and try to take revenge on his cruel captors AND get back to the surface world . . . and the fun begins. Orivon IS a grim fighting hero, and several reviewers have seen this as very Howard-like action fantasy. The action takes place almost entirely underground.
So I hope that tells you enough to choose, without revealing too much. I liked them both, for very different reasons. (Amusingly, Ed's usual detractors trashed them, but one detractor often directly contradicted another in their stated reasons for doing so; read into that what you will.)
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Brimstone
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Heh. Zandilar, I'm thinking it's a reference to the sort of sword that's spelled D-I-L-D-etc. Ahem.
The sense I get from Ed is that Aluzair as Regent VERY MUCH was changing (or trying to change) the "rights" and influence and roles of nobles, with a LOT of support from "her blades" (the young nobles who'd ridden the Stonelands with her [yes, in all senses of "ridden"], knew and trusted her, and saw something of her vision of what the realm had to become . . . either her way, or a bloodier way, through a commoner uprising in which a lot of nobles would lose their heads), and that these changes, albeit with backlash resistance, would continue after her regency ended.
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Markustay
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I would also imagine it was first coined by snickering male warriors who served with such types, and was meant to mean 'Swordless', as in "they wouldn't want yer sword, nor mine... yuk yuk yuk" with much accompanied knee slapping and good-natured back-smacking.

And also because.. ya know... they were swordless...

Now Ed has once again given me a great idea for one of my own homebrew groups - the Seafolk I call the Bey'meir. They use female Sea-mages to control the weather and what-not (yes... it is borrowed - in part - from WoT), and 'Windlass' would be a great play-on-words for them.

And snce this thread is for asking questions, and since it just popped into my head -

Is there a Realms term for female care-givers, like how on Earth nurses have the nickname 'Florence Nightengales'?

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Edited by - Markustay on 12 Feb 2009 17:32:27
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Zandilar
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Australia
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Heya,

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Heh. Zandilar, I'm thinking it's a reference to the sort of sword that's spelled D-I-L-D-etc. Ahem.


Yes, I thought of that one too! But the other was just begging me to say it! (Since it was so "in character" for me, and I have to poke fun at myself sometimes or else I'd go mad... well madder than I already am.)

quote:
The sense I get from Ed is that Aluzair as Regent VERY MUCH was changing (or trying to change) the "rights" and influence and roles of nobles, with a LOT of support from "her blades" (the young nobles who'd ridden the Stonelands with her [yes, in all senses of "ridden"], knew and trusted her, and saw something of her vision of what the realm had to become . . . either her way, or a bloodier way, through a commoner uprising in which a lot of nobles would lose their heads), and that these changes, albeit with backlash resistance, would continue after her regency ended.


One would hope. But the Obarskyrs are seeming more and more like underdogs to me, which leads me to another couple of questions.

How did Azoun V and his son Foril managed to avoid a bloody backlash? It isn't like Alusair's blades (now that has a completely different meaning in my head!) represent every noble family (and there are probably none who are members of the staunchest anti-Obarskyr families, unless they have ulterior motives or are out and out rebels) - has there really been that big a shift in the attitudes of the nobles of Cormyr recently?

Zandilar
~amor vincit omnia~
~audaces fortuna iuvat~

As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.

The Sunlord left Elversult the same day in humilitation, and was never heard from again.
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gomez
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Netherlands
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Posted - 12 Feb 2009 :  07:54:52  Show Profile  Visit gomez's Homepage Send gomez a Private Message
I got the swordlass reference, though I think not every lesbian has a need for a private 'sword'.
So... a swordlass who doesn't have her own sword is a cutlass?
*ducks*

(and yes, terrible pun... but I couldn't resist either)

Edited by - gomez on 12 Feb 2009 08:02:42
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Kajehase
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In regards to Ed's Falconfar series - I know Ed included a disclaimer in the first book's glossary (and has made similar remarks here at Candlekeep, if I recall correctly), but in case someone's thinking of picking up the books: The thoughts the books' hero have about a computer game company and what it's done to "his" world is not what Ed feels about the treatment that the Realms have received during its publication history - just remember who came up with some of the more memorable monsters that haunt the realms.

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