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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 27 Dec 2009 :  16:45:54  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all! A tiny snippet of Realmslore just arrived from Ed, this one in partial response to this query, from Broken Helm (page 116 of this thread): " Dear Ed and THO,
Having just bought some boxes of frozen "appetizers" (hors d'oeuvres, party "finger foods," call them what you will) for Christmas, I'm moved to ask: are there mass-produced, buy-from-a-shop "finger foods" for revels, feasts, and celebrations? If so, what are they called and what are they? (I'm looking for what can be bought in human cities, not undersea or underground.) Thanks!"
Ed replies:


Still assembling a proper reply, but the short answer is: yes, as of just before the Spellplague. One appetizer popular in Sword Coast ports and now in Suzail and Westgate (creeping into Sembian cities) is the "talyth," which is a cracker the size of a small human palm, onto which has been placed a thin slice of sausage, with various sorts of herbs, spices, and mush-down-flat foodstuffs in between, everything being lightly baked to "glue" it together. These are usually savory, and can include anything from snails and oysters and spiced worms right up through diced eggs and mixed cheeses. Sugars are often added, and they are wrapped in pig's bladders, heated on metal plates over fires to drive out moisture, tied shut, then "painted" all over with "tansel," which is an egg-and-certain-plant-pastes glue mixture that can provide an airtight seal, and packed in little pitch-sealed tins full of edible plant oils to guard against spoilage. Caravan companies ship these tins to shops, and you buy individual bladders of half a dozen or a dozen talyth for your meal or feast or revel.
Of course, these are just premade versions of talyths that have been "made fresh" in Waterdeep, Neverwinter, Luskan, Mirabar, Elturel, Everlund, Silverymoon, and Scornubel for decades. In winter, these can be premade and packed on ice, for later heating or reheating, to be served immediately.


So saith Ed. Thinking of our tummies again at this festive season; how thoughtful.
love to all,
THO
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 27 Dec 2009 :  16:49:10  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
A postscript: yes, Ed is well aware that "talyth" is already a name for something else in the Realms. He's deliberately introducing another of the sort of realistic confusions (as found in our real world, and as deliberately removed by TSR and later Wizards down the years, for greater clarity, in the published Realms) that are found in the original Realms, such as a demon AND a devil sharing the name "Ashtaroth" (among many other examples).
love,
THO
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Brimstone
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USA
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Posted - 27 Dec 2009 :  21:10:35  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message
Thats awesome.

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep
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sfdragon
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Posted - 29 Dec 2009 :  04:20:37  Show Profile Send sfdragon a Private Message
is selunnarra(sp??) aka the netherese enclave at the gates of the moon under an nda?

why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power


My FR fan fiction
Magister's GAmbit
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Menelvagor
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Israel
352 Posts

Posted - 29 Dec 2009 :  16:49:00  Show Profile  Visit Menelvagor's Homepage Send Menelvagor a Private Message
I'm about to start re-reading the Knights of Myth Drannor trilogy, so I'll probably have lots of questions, but let's start with a rather simple and basic one: When do these novels take place? Obviously before 1369 DR, as that is the year of the Abraxus Affair, where both Tanalasta and Alusair are older, and Bhereu and Thomdor die. Since the birth of Alusair was (if I'm not mistaken) in 1335 DR, and she's 12 or so in the novel, I'd put the trilogy in 1347-9 DR, but can I get an exact fix?

"Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.

"Yea, though he live a thousand years twice, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?" - Ecclesiastes VI, 6.

"There are no stupid questions just a bunch of inquisitive idiots."

"Let's not call it 'hijacking'. Let's call it 'Thread Drift'."

Edited by - Menelvagor on 29 Dec 2009 16:50:25
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Blueblade
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Posted - 29 Dec 2009 :  18:25:58  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
If I recall rightly, Menelvagor (I'm away from my books right now), the first book of the trilogy (in the first page of the story text)tells you the day, month, and year that the action starts (or at least tells you early or late in the month; early, I think), and you can figure out elapsed time pretty easily as the books unfold (second follows on RIGHT after the first, etc.).
BB

Edited by - Blueblade on 29 Dec 2009 18:26:50
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 29 Dec 2009 :  18:45:15  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all. Menelvagor, Blueblade is right re. the dating of the trilogy. Quite specific. (Though I can't be, I'm afraid, because I'm away from my books, too.)
I bring Ed's response to Blueblade about another matter: the fate of the Knights, post-Spellplague (or more specifically, the nigh-century-timejump that brings us to the date of the 4e Realms Guide). Ed responds thus:


I'm afraid the fates of the Knights and many other Realms characters are NDA'd right now. Obviously, you can draw conclusions from that published Wizards catalogue writeup of ELMINSTER MUST DIE, and I can add that the text of that novel will (largely in passing, whilst telling another tale) shed light on the fates of some other Realms characters, when it's published in August 2010. Who, and what those fates are, are just going to have to remain mysterious until then. Sorry.

So saith Ed. Who doesn't fault you for trying, at all (he expects it).
love to all,
THO



Edited by - The Hooded One on 29 Dec 2009 18:46:16
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Jakk
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Canada
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Posted - 29 Dec 2009 :  18:55:38  Show Profile Send Jakk a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm

Dear Ed and THO,
If all the Obarskyrs were wiped out at once (and for the sake of convenience, let's say Vangey and Caladnei, too), who's next in line for the Dragon Throne?
A "proven" bastard of Azoun? A member of one of the "Royal Houses" of nobility?
I'm well aware that it would really come down to who could physically hold the throne and attract the support of the majority of nobles and commoners, but "on paper," whose claim takes precedence?
Oh, and a P.S.: just pre-Spellplague is the time setting, and Cormyr is the place.
Thanks!



Ooh! Someone else who would love to see the Cormyr Lineage! Malcolm, said document would likely answer those questions, if Ed can ever persuade it to be published... but I'm not sure that there's anything more he can say until then... because Ed wants it published almost as badly as I do. Anyway, that's my answer; Ed may be able to share a bit more that I'm not aware of (and Ed, you have my enthusiastic encouragement to do so).

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.

Edited by - Jakk on 29 Dec 2009 19:02:53
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Jakk
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Canada
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Posted - 29 Dec 2009 :  19:01:15  Show Profile Send Jakk a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Zandilar

Heya,

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
I also have a more than sneaking suspicion that although we may never learn all the details of the whys and hows and Mystra's plans or safeguards or forethought or lack of same, that this story isn't quite finished yet...



This ignites in me the very faint hope that we may not have seen the last of Mystra in the Realms.

By Tymora, I think she might make a come back.



That's Ed... he even has contingencies for the contingencies. Besides, (in the Realms) what kind of greater deity would Mystra be if she didn't have some kind of plan for such occurrences, particularly given that she's already died twice, and (in RL) what kind of publisher would Wizbro be if they didn't give themselves an out in case the death of Mystra proved to be vastly unpopular?

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.
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Blueblade
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Posted - 29 Dec 2009 :  20:27:04  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Heh. Let's keep that last "(RL)" question rhetorical. As in: you don't want to let me give my opinion as to what sort of publisher they are. Really.
Nor am I, I suspect, the only one.
Let's just say we can all see that a bold reset has already been used, so there's ALWAYS an out.
BB
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Menelvagor
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Israel
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Posted - 29 Dec 2009 :  21:39:19  Show Profile  Visit Menelvagor's Homepage Send Menelvagor a Private Message
Ah, I've found the year. I'm sorry I asked, although admittedly, the references were easy to miss: The month was easy to find: It was Tarask, in the first sentence of the first chapter. But the year was harder. It was referenced in the title of the book containing the quote opening the book (before the prologue), saying in what year the book was written in, while the gist of the quote was 'In the time I wrote this, there were many adventurers in Cormyr'. A bit obscure, but I found it after all. I was right - 1348 DR, Year of the Spur. Thanks for the help.

"Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.

"Yea, though he live a thousand years twice, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?" - Ecclesiastes VI, 6.

"There are no stupid questions just a bunch of inquisitive idiots."

"Let's not call it 'hijacking'. Let's call it 'Thread Drift'."

Edited by - Menelvagor on 29 Dec 2009 21:43:55
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althen artren
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Posted - 30 Dec 2009 :  00:27:39  Show Profile Send althen artren a Private Message
Just so that I may go with alternative timelines,
I would like to see some of the problems and successes
that the restored Myth Drannor will experience. New Npc's
new elven families detailed (or old families detailed anew),
fate of the Srinshee (who I am guessing will make an appearence
in Eleminster Must Die), and other some suches.
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Bruce Donohue
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Canada
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Posted - 30 Dec 2009 :  09:49:53  Show Profile  Send Bruce Donohue a Yahoo! Message Send Bruce Donohue a Private Message
Hello Hooded, I am sorry I don't have my FR book with me at the moment, can Ed give information about the other floating city Sh(something or other)in Netheril? Because it talk about it under Netheril but doesn't say where it is floating or much more about it.
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Malcolm
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Posted - 30 Dec 2009 :  18:49:13  Show Profile  Visit Malcolm's Homepage Send Malcolm a Private Message
I'm away from my gaming books at the moment, but I THINK there's more about that floating city in the 3e Realms sourcebook LOST EMPIRES OF FAERUN.
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Broken Helm
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Posted - 31 Dec 2009 :  14:56:37  Show Profile  Visit Broken Helm's Homepage Send Broken Helm a Private Message
Dear Ed and THO,
Another campaign question, this one not urgent at all.
In westernmost Cormyr, where no named settlements are on the map and things sort of trail off along the coast (by the mountains that have the Marshes of Tun on the west side of them), are there any skilled human weaponsmiths/armorers?
Thanks!
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Baleful Avatar
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Canada
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Posted - 31 Dec 2009 :  14:59:21  Show Profile  Visit Baleful Avatar's Homepage Send Baleful Avatar a Private Message
Dear Ed and THO,
I'm looking for any information you can share about a successful, hard-working, NOT rich or noble or socially high-profile merchant who frequently runs goods into Waterdeep as part of caravans, but doesn't live in Waterdeep (or run any caravan company or coster or priakos). Can you share the name and a little about anyone, circa a decade before the Spellplague?
Thank you.
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Blueblade
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Posted - 31 Dec 2009 :  15:01:20  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Dear Ed and THO,
The place is Neverwinter, the time is the summer of 1357 DR. A merchant serves wine to guests he wants to impress, at an expensive private dinner he's hosting in his own home. What sorts of wines are "impressive" at the time, locally? In fashion? Denoting status/wealth/success?
Thanks!
BB
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The Sage
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Posted - 31 Dec 2009 :  15:03:21  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
Well met

Could I please ask that my fellow scribes refrain from posting any more requests for lore to Ed and THO as this scroll will soon be sealed [this then allows THO to better synchronise the crossover into the upcoming 2010 scroll]? You may soon resume your requests in the 2010 scroll.

Thank you.

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The Sage
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Posted - 31 Dec 2009 :  16:08:16  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
And with that being the case, and since Australia has now entered 2010, please be aware that this scroll will now be closing, with Ed's Realmslore answers and The Hooded One's grace and charm starting fresh in a new scroll for 2010.

Casts Seal Scroll.

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