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Baleful Avatar
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Posted - 19 Dec 2009 :  16:23:21  Show Profile  Visit Baleful Avatar's Homepage Send Baleful Avatar a Private Message
Hey, everybody, I just spotted this over at loremaster:


Eaerlann's symbol is the maranthae.
Specifically, the maranthae is a small woodlands flower found throughout much of Eaerlann (and almost nowhere else in Faerun). It's faintly phosphorescent, in that it captures and gives off (as a VERY faint glow) sunlight and other radiances (e.g. a lantern).
As a badge or symbol, the maranthae is depicted as an eight-petaled flower seen "straight-on" from above (so the long, thin, curved-to-symmetrical-points petals occupy the four cardinal compass points and their bisectors). The petals are, as in nature, a rich blue at their central hub, shading to gold one-third of the way "out," with two-thirds of each petal gold. The maranthae is closely surrounded by a circular wreath of overlapping green leaves, points to the right (clockwise), with the ring of space between flower and circle of leaves being a light sky blue.
There. :} Potted Realmslore!


Those words were posted by Ed of the Greenwood, in response to a question that boils down to "what is the symbol of Eaerlann?"
Goodly Realms goodness!
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The Sage
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Posted - 19 Dec 2009 :  16:26:52  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi again, all.
Bruce, I'm afraid Ed can't comment on Laeral yet; There Are Plans. Which will involve Steven Schend far more than they will Ed. And before you rush off to put those same questions to Steven: HE can't answer you without seriously harming the chances of said Plans ever happening. Sometimes we must all just be patient and see what comes into print, I'm afraid.
love,
THO

Regardless, I'm sure it'll be worth the wait. I've long been intrigued by Laeral's post-Khelben status. So anything from either Ed or Steven that focuses on that, will be well received by this old sage.

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 19 Dec 2009 :  16:27:27  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hmmm. Ed neglected to mention that's the "classical" symbol of Eaerlann, back in the days of its greatness.
In the time since, some elves have used a silver-blue, unsheathed and VERY slightly curving longsword, horizontal with the point to the viewer's left, to denote Eaerlann (and those who'd like to restore its greatness).
(I draw this from Ed's notes to me, BTW. I suspect Ed knew the questioner at loremaster was interested in the realm at its height.)
love,
THO
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 19 Dec 2009 :  16:27:37  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Bruce Donohue

Hello Hooded and Ed

Hooded is Ed able to comment... Laeral I feel for her pain recently, she has just lost a sister in the cruelest of ways, Khelben is now in Arvandor and she is baring twins. Can Ed comment as to Laeral's perpective and outlook on life at the moment, how she feels, her place and mindset for the future especially now that Mystra is no more, and how did the Casting on the High Moor to create the City of Hope affect the twins still within her womb?



Since we know that Mystra has to okay her Chosen having offspring, I think it's safe to assume that the twins would have been shielded from any adverse effects of that spellcasting. They may have a unique tie to the city, though...

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The Sage
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Posted - 19 Dec 2009 :  17:00:42  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Bruce Donohue

Hello Hooded and Ed

Hooded is Ed able to comment... Laeral I feel for her pain recently, she has just lost a sister in the cruelest of ways, Khelben is now in Arvandor and she is baring twins. Can Ed comment as to Laeral's perpective and outlook on life at the moment, how she feels, her place and mindset for the future especially now that Mystra is no more, and how did the Casting on the High Moor to create the City of Hope affect the twins still within her womb?



Since we know that Mystra has to okay her Chosen having offspring, I think it's safe to assume that the twins would have been shielded from any adverse effects of that spellcasting. They may have a unique tie to the city, though...

Well, according to Steven, this wasn't Khelben's first set of twin progeny, so I suspect there's probably a little more to this story than just what we've learned so far.

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Menelvagor
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Posted - 19 Dec 2009 :  19:21:34  Show Profile  Visit Menelvagor's Homepage Send Menelvagor a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One:
Hi again, all.
Bruce, I'm afraid Ed can't comment on Laeral yet; There Are Plans. Which will involve Steven Schend far more than they will Ed. And before you rush off to put those same questions to Steven: HE can't answer you without seriously harming the chances of said Plans ever happening. Sometimes we must all just be patient and see what comes into print, I'm afraid.
love,
THO


While I'm certainly keeping the above comment in mind (especially the part about neither Ed or Steven being able to comment), is there anything we may be told about this? If not, we'll just have to wait patiently as you said, and hope for the best.

"Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.

"Yea, though he live a thousand years twice, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?" - Ecclesiastes VI, 6.

"There are no stupid questions just a bunch of inquisitive idiots."

"Let's not call it 'hijacking'. Let's call it 'Thread Drift'."

Edited by - Menelvagor on 19 Dec 2009 21:50:34
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Blueblade
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Posted - 20 Dec 2009 :  04:01:08  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Dear Ed and THO,
Are any of the Knights of Myth Drannor (any, not just the "core starters" who featured in the recent novel trilogy) likely or somewhat likely to still be alive, post-Spellplague?
I'm thinking: stasis or being trapped/hiding in a magic item or some other magical means of lasting for a century or so, or having a long lifespan through being non-human . . .
Thanks!
BB
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 20 Dec 2009 :  04:08:24  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Oooh, shrewdly asked, Blueblade.
So much so that I'm thinking NDAs will prevent Ed from answering you. I strongly suspect that one of the magical things you mentioned has been used as a means of "cheating the timejump" for at least one Realms character, though none of us will know for sure for a while yet.
Oh, and more than that: that another possibility you mentioned has served ANOTHER Realms character in achieving the same ends.
However, I more than strongly suspect that neither Ed nor I can say more (in his case thanks to NDAs, in mine because I just don't know, and if I asked Ed his NDAs would prevent him from telling me - - and if I guessed and asked him to confirm my guess, he'd instead ask me as a longtime close friend to accept "nothing" by way of an answer, and not to speak publicly about THAT, and I of course would agree).
Which means we'll all just have to wait and see.
Ah, for the good old freewheeling days when Ed and other designers just couldn't wait to share the next tidbit or facet of the unfolding Realms with us all . . .
love,
THO

Edited by - The Hooded One on 20 Dec 2009 04:11:40
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 20 Dec 2009 :  05:54:01  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message
Those days aren't gone... Ed still can't wait to share lore with us. It's just that he has to, occasionally. But then he finds other lore to give us instead, so it's almost perfect.

And BA, that's a great catch. I've been trying to figure out what Eaerlann's symbol was for years. Now I know. Thanks.

Doggedly converting 3e back to what D&D should be...
Sigh... And now 4e as well.
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Blueblade
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Posted - 20 Dec 2009 :  15:21:02  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Oh, good...because I (as usual) have MORE questions.
However, right now I'll ask just one (or rather, a bunch of questions all about the same thing):
How well is sewer DESIGN understood? Do sewers just "happen," being added to over time on the general principle of water runs downhill, and we'll harness tides in a coastal port or a spring or two under the city to provide the flushing, and if we don't have a big flow, we use spells to move the water - - or do we flush it anywhere at all? Does it just sit brewing in cesspools, with the overlying water keeping the smell down? Or human wastes used as fertilizer, intentionally?
Hmm. It all comes back to the stinky stuff, eventually.
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Snowblood
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Posted - 20 Dec 2009 :  16:41:30  Show Profile Send Snowblood a Private Message
you are absolutely spot on there THO I was and am interested in Eaerlann at its height.....:-) and thanx for that little added bonus..... much appreciated.....

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Broken Helm
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Posted - 20 Dec 2009 :  16:58:12  Show Profile  Visit Broken Helm's Homepage Send Broken Helm a Private Message
Dear Ed and THO,
Do merchant ships sailing the Inner Sea, just-pre-Spellplague, carry spare rudders? If not, what do they have on board they could press into service as an emergency replacement if their rudder broke or got carried away? Big steering oars?
?
Thank you for anything you can say...
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Jergal
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Posted - 20 Dec 2009 :  23:54:25  Show Profile  Visit Jergal's Homepage  Click to see Jergal's MSN Messenger address Send Jergal a Private Message
Dear Ed and THO:

I was wondering if it would be canon if there were paladins of Jergal in the realms at the time of 3.5 edition?

Thanks for your time.

Jergal - Lord of the End of Everything

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The Sage
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Posted - 21 Dec 2009 :  00:03:46  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
I'm not Ed, but I think I can partly address this while you're awaiting the Bearded One's response.

There aren't any canon paladins for the Lord of the End of Everything. At least, not that I can [immediately] recall. Though, as of F&P, the Companions of the Pallid Mask are said to combat/command undead not sanctioned by the Jergali church.

So if you require a close-to-Paladin-fighter-type, you could probably utilise the Companions as a possibility.

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Knight of the Gate
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Posted - 21 Dec 2009 :  04:09:00  Show Profile  Visit Knight of the Gate's Homepage  Send Knight of the Gate a Yahoo! Message Send Knight of the Gate a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Jergal

Dear Ed and THO:

I was wondering if it would be canon if there were paladins of Jergal in the realms at the time of 3.5 edition?

Thanks for your time.

I'm not Ed, but I think I can partly address this while you're awaiting the Bearded One's response.

There aren't any canon paladins for the Lord of the End of Everything. At least, not that I can [immediately] recall. Though, as of F&P, the Champions of the Pallid Mask are said to combat/command undead not sanctioned by the Jergali church.

So if you require a close-to-Paladin-fighter-type, you could probably utilise the Champions as a possibility.


Not to nitpick, but I think they're the Companions of the Pallid Mask.

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Edited by - Knight of the Gate on 21 Dec 2009 04:09:26
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Posted - 21 Dec 2009 :  04:37:58  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
That's right. My mistake for not re-checking the source before I replied.

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Jergal
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Posted - 21 Dec 2009 :  07:30:04  Show Profile  Visit Jergal's Homepage  Click to see Jergal's MSN Messenger address Send Jergal a Private Message
Yeah, its just a tough subject. I know Jergal was once lawful evil. Now he's lawful neutral. But with his dogma I'm not sure about paladins. In the Faiths and Pantheons source it says paladins worship him. This is why I was wondering if you could be a paladin. Since one of his portfolios is guardian of tombs. I don't know if paladins are allowed to worship just one aspect of a god on Toril. I just want to know since I want to create a character on Neverwinter Nights 2 and want it to be as canon as possible. Also thanks for all the help in advance with this question.

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Bruce Donohue
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I would like to take this occasion to wish all on the boards a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Best to all!

Meilleurs voeux a tout et a tous en cette occasion du temps de fetes. Joyeux Noel et Bonne Heureuse Annee
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Bruce Donohue
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Posted - 21 Dec 2009 :  16:15:37  Show Profile  Send Bruce Donohue a Yahoo! Message Send Bruce Donohue a Private Message
Does anyone now if the Archwizard Novel by Troy Denning that is supposed to come out this month is just the reprint of the Archwizard Trilogy regarding the arrival of the Netherese back into the Realms, or is it a brand new novel?
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 21 Dec 2009 :  16:18:41  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi, all.
Well, I asked Ed about Jergal and paladins, and he said:

Sure, there can be paladins of Jergal. However, they'll be VERY rare, and will be self-sufficient loners, "doom-swords" who stalk the world without much benefit of established churches, a helpful clergy, etc.
(Think of Karl Edward Wagner's Kane character.)
Jergal will speak to them personally, in dreams and waking "talking in their heads," and will guide them to aid and hidden treasure caches (usually in tombs) when they have need of such things. His paladins are "my little aimed arrows," as he once referred to them.
Please note that Jergal's aims (and what he has his paladins do) may seem rather confusing to many mortals.

So saith Ed. More Realmslore, as we approach Yuletide, and Ed busily wraps and wraps and wraps presents . . .
(Having just finished and sent off some new Realms writing for Wizards, last night.)
love to all,
THO
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 21 Dec 2009 :  16:23:29  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Bruce, it's almost certainly a reprint, though I'm checking with my sources in the industry (and if I come up empty, I'll get Ed to check with Troy!).
love,
THO
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Bruce Donohue
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Posted - 21 Dec 2009 :  16:39:29  Show Profile  Send Bruce Donohue a Yahoo! Message Send Bruce Donohue a Private Message
Thanks so much THO and does Ed know what type of ceremony that an priest aspirant goes through before he or she is to graduate to the ranks of full priest of Corellon?
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Jergal
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Posted - 21 Dec 2009 :  18:41:25  Show Profile  Visit Jergal's Homepage  Click to see Jergal's MSN Messenger address Send Jergal a Private Message
Thank you Ed and THO for this info. I will tell the realm that I play in of this and direct them to this website if they have any questions about it. This is incredible and again thanks. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! :)

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Bruce Donohue
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Posted - 21 Dec 2009 :  19:36:21  Show Profile  Send Bruce Donohue a Yahoo! Message Send Bruce Donohue a Private Message
Hello Hooded and Ed,

Now all the Drow that were Eilistraee worshipers and all those that were good and descendents of Mieryatar (sorry about the spelling) at end of Lisa's Book were changed back to their true Mieyatar elves, thus brown skin with black hair. My question is, in the new FR, are they considered Eladrin, Copper or Wild Elves now?
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Bruce Donohue
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Posted - 21 Dec 2009 :  22:03:35  Show Profile  Send Bruce Donohue a Yahoo! Message Send Bruce Donohue a Private Message
Hello Hood and Ed,

Do you know if in Myth Drannor, or in the Dale Lands there is still the Temple of Amaunator (Lanthander as he used to be called in 3FR)?
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