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Broken Helm
Learned Scribe

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Posted - 16 Nov 2009 :  02:38:07  Show Profile  Visit Broken Helm's Homepage Send Broken Helm a Private Message
Thanks, Wooly and Sage, but I really meant the sort of competitions where those who participate have to DO something, not just place bets or play a game. Something physical or some sort of an achievement, I meant. Didn't word my question very well; sorry. I suppose even a scavenger hunt would count, but I wasn't really thinking sports (so, no races).
Ed and THO, please consider my question reworded, okay?
Thanks.
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
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Posted - 16 Nov 2009 :  03:52:17  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Jakk

Apologies, but here I go again...

I was rounding up my CK musings/rantings on the Spellplague and other topics when I found a year-old scroll about Nalavarauthatoryl:
http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2320
In this scroll, I asked about a rumoured contradiction regarding the death date of Thatoryl Elian; Garen Thal responded, but was unable to answer my question due to NDA. My question (strictly logistical in nature) is this: Is the aforementioned contradiction resolved in the Cormyr Lineage document? I expect the answer will be "NDA", but I thought I'd try all the same...

Thank you for all your efforts in pushing for the release of the Lineage, and it would be my best Christmas present ever... but I'm thinking (optimistically) Christmas 2012, so don't do anything drastic on that account...



I didn't know that the solution was NDA. It is however elegant and impressive.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Brimstone
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Posted - 16 Nov 2009 :  10:48:09  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message
When is Falconfar: Archwizard in paperback being released?

I loved Dark Vengance.

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep
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Ozzalum
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Posted - 16 Nov 2009 :  11:44:43  Show Profile  Visit Ozzalum's Homepage  Send Ozzalum a Yahoo! Message Send Ozzalum a Private Message
A simple Realms-terminology question...

What is infection called in the Realms? As in, someone gets cut and the wound becomes infected. It sounds a bit too clinical to me.

On a related note, how about some other quasi medical terms. Do any of these have specific Realsmian equivalents?

artery
pulse
heart attack
stroke
cancer

I'm sure you can, and already have, thought of a few dozen more, and I'd love to hear them.

Thanks
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The Sage
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Posted - 16 Nov 2009 :  13:40:55  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

When is Falconfar: Archwizard in paperback being released?
My local distributor says it ships early-to-mid December in Australia. Though, I suspect Ed might have a more accurate date, if one is available.

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Brimstone
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Posted - 16 Nov 2009 :  14:13:59  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message
Thanks Sage.

I keep getting late December when I google search it, when I was told November by the local B&N employee in September.

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep

Edited by - Brimstone on 16 Nov 2009 14:15:22
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Kuje
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Posted - 16 Nov 2009 :  21:01:08  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Ozzalum

heart attack

Thanks



Heart Stop, I believe.

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

My Goodreads page: http://www.goodreads.com/kuje

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Penknight
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Posted - 16 Nov 2009 :  21:26:24  Show Profile Send Penknight a Private Message
Hello again. I actually have another question about elves if that's all right. What are the special ceremonies that elves drink elverquisst for, and what all are entailed in the ceremonies? And does elverquisst date back to Faerie also, or was that something that came to them later on? Are there known families that make elverquisst that produce bottles that elves prefer over others? Thank you for your time!

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Knight of the Gate
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Posted - 16 Nov 2009 :  21:46:54  Show Profile  Visit Knight of the Gate's Homepage  Send Knight of the Gate a Yahoo! Message Send Knight of the Gate a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Penknight

Hello again. I actually have another question about elves if that's all right. What are the special ceremonies that elves drink elverquisst for, and what all are entailed in the ceremonies? And does elverquisst date back to Faerie also, or was that something that came to them later on? Are there known families that make elverquisst that produce bottles that elves prefer over others? Thank you for your time!


Seconded: This is one of those 'How did none of us ever ask this one before' questions.

How can life be so bountiful, providing such sublime rewards for mediocrity? -Umberto Ecco
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Penknight
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Posted - 16 Nov 2009 :  22:30:21  Show Profile Send Penknight a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Knight of the Gate

quote:
Originally posted by Penknight

Hello again. I actually have another question about elves if that's all right. What are the special ceremonies that elves drink elverquisst for, and what all are entailed in the ceremonies? And does elverquisst date back to Faerie also, or was that something that came to them later on? Are there known families that make elverquisst that produce bottles that elves prefer over others? Thank you for your time!


Seconded: This is one of those 'How did none of us ever ask this one before' questions.

Hey, thanks Knight!!

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Blueblade
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Posted - 16 Nov 2009 :  22:40:12  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Ozzalum, a stroke is "godstruck" or "godsmite" (according to my notes of an old Ed seminar at a Milwaukee-era GenCon). I also recall Ed saying there's a section on medical terminology and general "state of that art" in his huge root Realmslore package he gave Wizards to furnish Realms authors with...
BB
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Knight of the Gate
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Posted - 16 Nov 2009 :  23:10:42  Show Profile  Visit Knight of the Gate's Homepage  Send Knight of the Gate a Yahoo! Message Send Knight of the Gate a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Penknight

quote:
Originally posted by Knight of the Gate

quote:
Originally posted by Penknight

Hello again. I actually have another question about elves if that's all right. What are the special ceremonies that elves drink elverquisst for, and what all are entailed in the ceremonies? And does elverquisst date back to Faerie also, or was that something that came to them later on? Are there known families that make elverquisst that produce bottles that elves prefer over others? Thank you for your time!


Seconded: This is one of those 'How did none of us ever ask this one before' questions.

Hey, thanks Knight!!


Nono- Thank YOU
To add to the query; I've always assumed that Elverquisst is imbibed at room temperature- but are there either 'varietals' of Elverquisst which are considered better chilled or iced, or perhaps certain groups that traditionally chill the drink? Is there a single, overriding method for producing the beverage, or does each 'vintner' have his/her own devices? Finally, how does ageing affect elverquisst? Can all elverquisst be aged? (For those scribes who aren't cork-dorks like I am, comparitively few RL wines benefit from ageing, and the vast majority of those can really only be aged for a decade or so before declining and eventually becoming vinegar)
Actually, on a related note, what percentage of Faerunian wine is vintage wine?
Sorry to be so greedy with the wine questions, but if there's a field of nerdery to which I am more devoted than Realmslore, it's Oenophilia.

How can life be so bountiful, providing such sublime rewards for mediocrity? -Umberto Ecco
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 16 Nov 2009 :  23:36:59  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
Knight of the Gate, Ed and I are also interested in wines. The Realms has liqueurs, sherries, and "winter wines" (wherein wines are poured out in pans at below freezing winter temperatures, the ice skimmed off, and therefore the alcohol content of the remainder is increased) that are meant to last for years, in stoppered bottles suitably wax-sealed, but I'd say a little more than 80 percent of wines in the Realms are designed to be drunk right away, and kept for no more than three seasons at most (usually less). They are little more than a way of "trusting the drinking water" or achieving pleasant tastes, or both, for some.
There ARE connoisseurs, especially among nobility and wealthy wannabe-nobles in Waterdeep, Cormyr, Amn, and elsewhere, who champion and enjoy the remaining 20 percent or so of wines, which usually can be aged 10 to 12 years at most before they start to fade (vinegar in about 20, give or take 2 years each way).
Elves make wines, and halflings beer, and dwarves and gnomes fortified spirits, that last MUCH longer, however (but these rarely reach human markets or attention. Some human-city-dwelling demihumans use them as "bases" for various medicines that they sell to humans.
And those are the basics. Ed has extensive notes on this topic, but I'm not sure how much is NDA and how much he's free to share.
love,
THO
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 17 Nov 2009 :  00:09:37  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by Ozzalum

heart attack

Thanks



Heart Stop, I believe.

Kuje has the right of it. From Ed, in October 2004:-
quote:
heartstop (heart attack)

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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 17 Nov 2009 :  13:18:55  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Blueblade

Ozzalum, a stroke is "godstruck" or "godsmite" (according to my notes of an old Ed seminar at a Milwaukee-era GenCon). I also recall Ed saying there's a section on medical terminology and general "state of that art" in his huge root Realmslore package he gave Wizards to furnish Realms authors with...
BB



I've used "sweet sickness" to denote diabetes in my writings. I recall also using "brain bolt" to describe a stroke.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Knight of the Gate
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Posted - 17 Nov 2009 :  17:33:07  Show Profile  Visit Knight of the Gate's Homepage  Send Knight of the Gate a Yahoo! Message Send Knight of the Gate a Private Message
Thanks for the lore, THO: I am not only a cork-dork myself, but most of my players are, too. This sort of thing comes up shockingly often in our campaigns. Thanks again, Lady!

How can life be so bountiful, providing such sublime rewards for mediocrity? -Umberto Ecco
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Jakk
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Posted - 18 Nov 2009 :  05:18:54  Show Profile Send Jakk a Private Message
Hello Ed and THO,

The following question was originally asked in George Krashos's scroll; I am reposting here as his response (also posted here) hinted that you may have an answer... whether or not that answer is bound by NDA is another matter.

quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

I've finally found Ed's missive regarding Manshoon. Here it is in all its (short) glory ...

Manshoon’s family name is “Shoon,” and all members of his family use a single name, derived by adding a prefix to “Shoon” (usually an established family one, such as Brar/Brarrara; Caul/Caulra; Dusk/Duskra; Farl/Farla; Gul/Gularra; Harl/Harla; Kul/Kuldra; Man/Mana; Pel/Pelra; Sarr/Sarrla; Tarl/Tarla; Vorl/Vorlarra [the male form first, female form second]). So, no first name and surname, just a single name. This is a naming convention once very popular in southerly coastal lands (of the coast known, in its more northerly reaches, as the Sword Coast), but now dying out because most of the peoples who used it were conquered or made slaves, and gradually died out or intermarried and in any case adopted the naming conventions of those “over” them (so as to “belong” and escape inferior status).

This of course, tells you where Manshoon’s family originally came from. Don’t forget he had an older brother; as far as we know in print thus far, he killed off all of his kin, but the Knights have been searching for an elusive sister of his (Duskrashoon) AND a niece (Tarlashoon) for years, without success - - because they’ve been hiding from Manshoon, and know his finding them will mean their deaths; they are of course far from Zhentil Keep and don’t use their original names.

-- George Krashos




I don't know why it took me this long to ask this question, being the obsessive genealogist that I am, but I was wondering if the precise connection between Manshoon and his infamous southern relatives has been mapped out, and if so, is it NDA? (I'll assume an affirmative answer to the latter question, regardless of the answer to the former.)

quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

No, no details regarding the Shoon Dynasty and Shoon family have been mapped out that I'm aware of - of course Ed has that answer (and a myriad of others) so I guess we'll have to defer to him.

-- George Krashos


Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.

Edited by - Jakk on 18 Nov 2009 05:22:05
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 18 Nov 2009 :  21:38:57  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all. Ozzalum, I found another general term for infections in my Ed-campaign-play notes: infected battle wounds were often referred to as having "swordtaint" (or being "swordtainted").
love,
THO
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Ozzalum
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Posted - 18 Nov 2009 :  23:31:52  Show Profile  Visit Ozzalum's Homepage  Send Ozzalum a Yahoo! Message Send Ozzalum a Private Message
Excellent, just what I was looking for. And thanks to you other guys too. I especially like sweet sickness.

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Baleful Avatar
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Posted - 19 Nov 2009 :  18:01:19  Show Profile  Visit Baleful Avatar's Homepage Send Baleful Avatar a Private Message
Dear Ed and THO,
Have either of you, or anyone you know of, ever tried or thought about running a campaign where all the PCs were War Wizards or Highknights, In Cormyr, or the equivalents in other realms of FR, doing a combination of BONES or NCIS casework, and James Bond-style counter-espionage?
The notion has struck me, and I just want to explore any pitfalls or glitches or complications or things to gaurd against/not miss, in making this really work for the players in my new Realms campaign (haven't decided yet on pre- or post-Spellplague). Any other scribes who read this, please comment and pitch in on whatever's said. I'm interested in the "defending the society and playing within its rules" aspect more than the usual "adventurers haul out swords and spells, and just hack and blast bad guys" aspect.
Thanks!
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The Hooded One
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Hi, all. Baleful Avatar, Ed ran at least one "library campaign" (a 13-week, one-four-hour-play-session-a-week adventure) set in Cormyr, years ago, using the PCs as Highknights to do NCIS/BONES/CSI investigations (long, long before any of those television programs was thought of, of course) within the realm.
Ed's REALMS OF MYSTERY short story, "The Grinning Ghost of Taverton Hall," echoes what that campaign was like (I didn't play in it, but I dropped by briefly to watch short stretches of two of the play sessions). There were plots and subplots galore, of course, but some of them centered around wayward nobles murdering rivals and upstart wannabe nobles whom they had trade dealings with, that went sour, and other nobles who were plotting treason and killing anyone who got even a whiff of their plans, all complicated by husband-hunting young noblewomen, some enterprising blackmailers (commoners seeking to pry money out of indiscreet nobles), various ambitious lone courtiers trying to manipulate noble families, a band of merchant thieves just trying to rob anyone and frame everyone else for everything they did . . . oh, it was a happy traffic jam, believe me, with the PCs (low-level, starting-their-careers Highknights, all of them) caught in the middle. A GREAT setup for a campaign...or for that matter for a short story anthology that I think Ed should suggest to the Books Department folks.
Unless, of course, they still covertly read this thread. Folks?

love,
THO
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Knight of the Gate
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Posted - 20 Nov 2009 :  20:37:23  Show Profile  Visit Knight of the Gate's Homepage  Send Knight of the Gate a Yahoo! Message Send Knight of the Gate a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Baleful Avatar

Dear Ed and THO,
Have either of you, or anyone you know of, ever tried or thought about running a campaign where all the PCs were War Wizards or Highknights, In Cormyr, or the equivalents in other realms of FR, doing a combination of BONES or NCIS casework, and James Bond-style counter-espionage?
The notion has struck me, and I just want to explore any pitfalls or glitches or complications or things to gaurd against/not miss, in making this really work for the players in my new Realms campaign (haven't decided yet on pre- or post-Spellplague). Any other scribes who read this, please comment and pitch in on whatever's said. I'm interested in the "defending the society and playing within its rules" aspect more than the usual "adventurers haul out swords and spells, and just hack and blast bad guys" aspect.
Thanks!


My current campaign is run along these lines, and I'd love to expound, but I don't want to overtake Ed's scroll. If you want to, start a topic in Running the Realms, and I (and no doubt, others) would be happy to chime in.

How can life be so bountiful, providing such sublime rewards for mediocrity? -Umberto Ecco
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Blueblade
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Posted - 20 Nov 2009 :  23:38:16  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
I recall Ed mentioning in a GenCon seminar a few young nobles who needed to clear their names with the Crown (establish themselves as loyal, not traitors as the rest of their kin were regarded; one of them was a Cormaeril), who started working with a Highknight and a War Wizard, as undercover "agents" (informants and spies among the nobles, reporting back to the Crown).
BB
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Sandstorm
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Posted - 21 Nov 2009 :  04:48:47  Show Profile  Visit Sandstorm's Homepage  Click to see Sandstorm's MSN Messenger address Send Sandstorm a Private Message
Good evening to both Ed and to THO. I recently linked up with this site after it was greatly recommended to me, and have been participating in a thread in which several Candlekeepans have been aiding me in my current dilema.

I have no doubt that this has been proposed countless times before, and so feel free to copy and paste. Ha ha. It seemed to be ridiculous to think that I could pose this question to the very likes, but the others told me to go ahead and that you dont mind, so here goes.

I spent the last few years on my first work, in which I wrote a novel that I had planned to set in Faerun. With the rise of the Spellplague and such, I figured it might be a good idea to look into whether or not I should edit my story to incorporate it, and after a resounding yes, I was also told that my lack of writing experience will have my work disregarded as a whole.

This makes sense to me, and I am not wholly disheartened, but am rather rejuvenated with my new adventure of writing something solely my own, and will attempt to get this new story published elsewhere before going back to my one true goal in submitting something worthy of the REalms.

My question hence lies in what sort of publishing company should I seek out, and whether you have any suggestions. The story I've since been writing is adult oriented and not for kids, yet does hold a touch of fantasy. The only mystical creatures it holds are dragons, though you do get a feeling for the imaginary throughout.

Any direction you'd be able to point me in would be of great help, and I thank you both for your time.

e-mail:doc_holiday4@hotmail.com
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The Sage
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Posted - 21 Nov 2009 :  05:05:27  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Sandstorm

Good evening to both Ed and to THO. I recently linked up with this site after it was greatly recommended to me, and have been participating in a thread in which several Candlekeepans have been aiding me in my current dilema.
Actually, we prefer the term scribes. Or Candlekeepers, I suppose.

...

Interestingly, this raises a question for Ed. Do you have any other specific terms you use to describe the inhabitants of Candlekeep?

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