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althen artren
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Posted - 15 Oct 2009 :  22:04:30  Show Profile Send althen artren a Private Message
A quote from Elminster in Elminster in Hell comes to mind
with this page and the Hooded One's profession.
Vangey and Luse:
condensed:
Luse: Armor is supposed to be tight, men come at me with swords and daggers.
Vangey: They are the smart ones. (of course referencing Luse tendency to bed all of her personal noble son followers.)

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uaintjak
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Posted - 15 Oct 2009 :  23:28:55  Show Profile  Visit uaintjak's Homepage Send uaintjak a Private Message
Was Espar ever written up anywhere? I'd be interested in seeing the village the senior Knights started in.
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by uaintjak

Was Espar ever written up anywhere? I'd be interested in seeing the village the senior Knights started in.

Volo's Guide to Cormyr has some tidbits, as does Ed's Swords of Eveningstar novel. There's some brief bits in both the 1e and 2e FR boxed sets, Haunted Halls of Eveningstar, and Ed's '05 Candlekeep replies as well.

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Kyrene
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Posted - 16 Oct 2009 :  09:45:59  Show Profile  Visit Kyrene's Homepage Send Kyrene a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Kyrene, you sure did. And the wall hasn't budged an inch.
love to all,
THO


I'll take that as a "Yes, maybe" rather than a "No, definately not" then. Is there anything Ed can tell us about Alasturan Malatheer that has not already been published and would not be behind that wall? Yes, I'm keeping it purposely vague, and so can be whatever Ed can reply with. A single word of lore is still 'more lore' afterall.

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Zandilar
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Posted - 16 Oct 2009 :  12:49:46  Show Profile  Visit Zandilar's Homepage Send Zandilar a Private Message
Heya,

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
And Zandilar, you've spotted a WotC shift in how they viewed song dragons (the former "weredragons" of Ed-lore): initially (MoF) female-only, later seen as both genders with males VERY rare, for the very "how does the species reproduce, then?" reasons you bring up. Ed explained this discrepancy away by saying they all have the ability to take human female form, and are cross-fertile with humans when operating as females, but some of them use spells to APPEAR as human males for certain times, either out of preference or for business or personal mission reasons. So the male human is actually a magically-disguised human female who is really a song dragon in its only "natural" human form.
Myself, I share Ed's preference: that they'd stuck with weredragons all along, by all means revamping them for 3e if they wanted to do so, but thinking through such basics as species reproduction before writing up "official" rules. Sigh.
love to all,
THO


I am not really sure what I want to say to that. I'm quite happy with the concept of a magical species that is monogendered and has to mate outside the species to reproduce. (We are talking about magic here!* Anything is possible!)

Where would I find stats for the original Were-dragon (I probably have 2nd Edition stats hanging around somewhere but goodness knows where!)? Or were they never published? If not, what are the main differences between Song Dragons and were-dragons? Was MoF accurate, were they only female?

* Even Nature is more varied than some would have us believe.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 16 Oct 2009 :  14:22:06  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Zandilar


Where would I find stats for the original Were-dragon (I probably have 2nd Edition stats hanging around somewhere but goodness knows where!)? Or were they never published? If not, what are the main differences between Song Dragons and were-dragons? Was MoF accurate, were they only female?


I believe that the weredragon was first published in Dragon 134 -- in a 1E article. And in that article, they were all female.

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The Sage
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Posted - 16 Oct 2009 :  14:43:07  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Zandilar


Where would I find stats for the original Were-dragon (I probably have 2nd Edition stats hanging around somewhere but goodness knows where!)? Or were they never published? If not, what are the main differences between Song Dragons and were-dragons? Was MoF accurate, were they only female?


I believe that the weredragon was first published in Dragon 134 -- in a 1E article. And in that article, they were all female.

Yep. And this has all been covered before, in a previous version of Ed's replies. If you search the archives, Zandilar, you should find Ed's earlier replies.

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 16 Oct 2009 :  19:23:30  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
uaintjak, I can ask Ed for his "handy" Espar notes, if you'd like. The published lore has been pretty slim.
love,
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Icelander
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Posted - 16 Oct 2009 :  20:18:08  Show Profile  Visit Icelander's Homepage Send Icelander a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

uaintjak, I can ask Ed for his "handy" Espar notes, if you'd like. The published lore has been pretty slim.
love,
THO


If he has any handy Esparin notes, that would be great.

You know, stuff on where the original settlers came from, how the culture differed from modern Cormyrean (and Cormyrean at that time), any famous heroes of the realm and famous monarchs.

Basically, stuff that could be useful for portraying a border marcher Cormyrean who proudly retains some of his Esparinnar cultural roots.

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gomez
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Posted - 16 Oct 2009 :  21:26:47  Show Profile  Visit gomez's Homepage Send gomez a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Zandilar

Heya,
I am not really sure what I want to say to that. I'm quite happy with the concept of a magical species that is monogendered and has to mate outside the species to reproduce.


That's one thing I like about (4thed) Lamia's (I really dislike the 3rd ed version). They should have kept medusae one-gendered as wel.
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Bahgtru
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Posted - 17 Oct 2009 :  03:49:42  Show Profile  Visit Bahgtru's Homepage Send Bahgtru a Private Message
To THO and ED,

Thank you for the reply to my last request. The next one may seem strange. I just finished watching an ESPN MetRX World's Strongest Man competition.

If such a competition were held in say Waterdeep during shieldmeet, who would the top entrants be? If it is possible, could you provide what city or nation they hail from and what their vocation or background is? Also who might the favorites might be?

Thank you in advance.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 17 Oct 2009 :  06:34:12  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Bahgtru

To THO and ED,

Thank you for the reply to my last request. The next one may seem strange. I just finished watching an ESPN MetRX World's Strongest Man competition.

If such a competition were held in say Waterdeep during shieldmeet, who would the top entrants be? If it is possible, could you provide what city or nation they hail from and what their vocation or background is? Also who might the favorites might be?

Thank you in advance.




My minotaur, Takkus Gal-Zon, would be an entrant. Not sure what his 3.x strength would be, but in 2E, he had a 20 strength. He and his friends are co-owners of a Waterdhavian inn, now, and he doubles as a bouncer.

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The Sage
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Posted - 17 Oct 2009 :  06:48:56  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
I had a minotaur bouncer once, too, in Sigil. The Fest Halls were never the same. Of course, he had a "stake" in the earnings of the place [which, ironically, was forged of wood -- a piece of which the minotaur used as a weapon to guard entry against malcontents], so he *retired* from official bouncer duties and instead began tending bar.

...

Anyways, Ed, I shot off a quick email to you. Just wondering whether it came through intact?

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Wooly Rupert
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There's also a minotaur bouncer in canon lore, in the Moonsea product. His name is Thud, and he runs an inn in Thentia.

Takk was an actual PC of mine; I imported him into the Realms as an NPC, built an adventuring group around him, and had them eventually settle in Waterdeep (because there's no place better in the Realms! ). They collectively bought an inn, but they don't run it themselves -- they hired someone else to do that. They just enjoy the profits and have a place to relax and drink for free.

...And I've been trying to think of a name for that place for a long time. I think it finally came to me, just now.

And now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

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The Sage
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Posted - 17 Oct 2009 :  15:34:38  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
Ed, I've since sent a follow-up email, that largely continues on from the previous one. But if the earlier message didn't come through, then this second one is unlikely to make much sense.

I'll await your reply before sending the first email again.

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Bahgtru
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Posted - 17 Oct 2009 :  15:40:39  Show Profile  Visit Bahgtru's Homepage Send Bahgtru a Private Message
One of my favorite gaming experiences was adventuring in a group of young, slightly cocky treasure seekers from the Dalelands. We heard through a Cormyrean merchant selling an ancient elven blade that some ancient ruins in the King's Forest of Cormyr housed treasures of an abandoned Elven enclave from earlier times.

To make a long story short, after several days of searching and finding everything but the Elven ruins, we decided to reprovision in Waymoot. Of the six of us, who all tended to the arrogance of youth, a certain boisterous ranger in our group got carried away with a serving wench at the Silver Wink in Waymoot.

Of course the many rounds of Ale literally and figuratively did not help to temper the situation. When a middle aged man who was so large and wide he had to duck and turn sideways to enter the Tavern asked us to leave, our good friend did us the great disservice of calling him a misbegotten son of a firbolg hag that should be snoozing in front of a fire somewhere, and proceeded to plant a kiss on the serving girl.

The next morning we all awoke, some miles out of town and quite sore, bruised, and black and blue. We all had vague memories of the earth turning upside down and flying out the tavern and careening off a building on the other side of the street but the note found on Rodrik, our lovable, loud mouthed friend cleared up the remainder of the night.




To the young whelps,

While my sensibilies and sensitivities are able to withstand the indesretion of youth, such is not the case for the young lasses of Waymoot. I trust I did not cause any permanent damage but left you with a reminder that will last a few days about the prudence of harnessing your vigor and ambitions, respecting your elders, and the prudence of good manners.

You will find your gear, in a depression 100 yards off the road to the East covered by plucked folliage. Please gather it and be on your way. When or if you learned the lesson I hope I imparted, please feel free to enjoy the hospitality of our town.

The misbegotten son of a Firbolg hag,

Lord Filfar Woodbrand



After that experience, Filfar would be on my list. It was a brief encounter but one that we laughed about for some time. We also learned the importance of the great Volothamp's local research, sorrily after the fact. The DM appreciated Volo's work and got a good laugh out of it.

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The Hooded One
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Hi again, all.
Sage, Ed hasn't - - yet, anyway - - received EITHER of the e-mails you sent. At all, in any form. He promises to keep me posted and let me know right away when he does, so I can tell you, AS WELL AS replying directly to you, himself. We'll figure out these Net grmelins yet.
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Posted - 17 Oct 2009 :  16:36:00  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
Aye. It's a problem on my end. Apparently, some new sub-routines I added to SageBrowser have been causing conflicts with my posting techniques. It'll register a post or message, but won't actually carry that post or message to the next stage. Curious.

The messages have undoubtedly been lost, so it looks like I'll have to re-compose and re-send.

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Blueblade
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Posted - 17 Oct 2009 :  16:40:20  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Dear Ed and THO,
Another Realmslore question. This time regarding falconry in Cormyr: outside of nobles' households, how many falconers (breeders, tamers, tenders of sick or injured birds, sellers of birds, etc.) can be found in the realm, that commoners and outlanders can readily do business with? Some names and reputations?
Thanks!
BB
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uaintjak
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Posted - 17 Oct 2009 :  18:09:03  Show Profile  Visit uaintjak's Homepage Send uaintjak a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

uaintjak, I can ask Ed for his "handy" Espar notes, if you'd like. The published lore has been pretty slim.
love,
THO



That would be great, thanks!
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Blueblade
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Dear Ed and THO,
A campaign question: on the main trade roads through Cormyr, there must be many bridges carrying those roads over all the streams that wander in and out of the King's Forest, through it, and so on.
Are those bridges large and high enough to hide a large armed band under? Take shelter under, in a blizzard or torrential downpour?
And do Purple Dragon patrols habitually check under them, at every pass, to see if fugitives or monsters or anyone else, or contraband or other items, are there?
Thanks!
BB
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Asgetrion
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Posted - 18 Oct 2009 :  20:32:20  Show Profile  Visit Asgetrion's Homepage Send Asgetrion a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Blueblade

Dear Ed and THO,
A campaign question: on the main trade roads through Cormyr, there must be many bridges carrying those roads over all the streams that wander in and out of the King's Forest, through it, and so on.
Are those bridges large and high enough to hide a large armed band under? Take shelter under, in a blizzard or torrential downpour?
And do Purple Dragon patrols habitually check under them, at every pass, to see if fugitives or monsters or anyone else, or contraband or other items, are there?
Thanks!
BB



Ooh, I'm definitely seconding this one!

Let me also add a quick additional question: which of the "major" roads in Cormyr (i.e. those depicted on the maps) are actually cobbled?

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The Hooded One
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As far as I can remember, Asgetrion, cobbled streets are restricted to the cities of Cormyr, High Horn, and the "main drags" of larger places like Wheloon. Everywhere else is hard-packed fine gravel atop dirt, with stones and moss on the flanks to slow washouts (and repaired constantly; the Purple Dragon road-patrols inspect and report constantly). With logs under the dirt in swampy spots.
Of course, I'll pass your query on to Ed, in case anything's changed.
love,
THO
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Asgetrion
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Finland
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Posted - 19 Oct 2009 :  22:46:08  Show Profile  Visit Asgetrion's Homepage Send Asgetrion a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

As far as I can remember, Asgetrion, cobbled streets are restricted to the cities of Cormyr, High Horn, and the "main drags" of larger places like Wheloon. Everywhere else is hard-packed fine gravel atop dirt, with stones and moss on the flanks to slow washouts (and repaired constantly; the Purple Dragon road-patrols inspect and report constantly). With logs under the dirt in swampy spots.
Of course, I'll pass your query on to Ed, in case anything's changed.
love,
THO



Thanks, Milady!

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Hi Ed. I'd like to ask a non-FR question for a change.

The Nobel-prizes are a pretty big affair 'round where I live, so for some reason I was wondering who Ed thinks deserve to win the literature one? (Personally I'm rooting for British folk-singer Billy Bragg, but that's not going to happen) What does he think of this year's winner, Herta Müller (based on the one chapter from one of her novels printed in my local paper she's very good). And finally, who's Ed's favourite past winner?

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