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bladeinAmn
Learned Scribe

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Posted - 19 Sep 2009 :  19:55:18  Show Profile  Visit bladeinAmn's Homepage Send bladeinAmn a Private Message
Randal_Dundragon, Ed answers some of your question at loremaster. Check the September 17th 2009 entry:

http://www.loremaster.org/vbinterviews.php?do=showinterview&id=6

The September 18th, 2009 entry is also in the same vein of your question. A really good read, so I posted it here.

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Randal_Dundragon
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USA
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Posted - 20 Sep 2009 :  07:58:49  Show Profile  Visit Randal_Dundragon's Homepage Send Randal_Dundragon a Private Message
Thanks blade and to the hooded one, just a random question wanted answered :)

Its simple really, Your an idiot and im simply a figment of your imagination
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Sage of Stars
Seeker

USA
59 Posts

Posted - 20 Sep 2009 :  17:20:21  Show Profile  Visit Sage of Stars's Homepage Send Sage of Stars a Private Message
Dear Ed,
What's this I'm hearing about you working on the script for the first Hobbit movie?
Or is this something you're constrained from discussing (or even admitting)?
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A Publishing Lackey
Seeker

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Posted - 20 Sep 2009 :  17:26:39  Show Profile  Visit A Publishing Lackey's Homepage Send A Publishing Lackey a Private Message
Heh, that's a rumor that's been quietly working its way around the industry for some time now.
I have an industry question related to the Google publishing mess: being as they intend to publish "unavailable" (OOP) works, some of us have been trying to track how many languages certain authors have been published in (being as foreign-language editions still on sale maintain a copyright). Can Ed or THO tell us how many languages they know of, that Ed's works have been published in? (Comics, lyrics, short stories, poetry, scripts; the works, not just the novels.) I've come up with 38 languages, thus far. I'm hoping that if Ed's figure is far different from mine, scribes from around the world can chime in with languages they've seen Ed's stuff printed in...
Oh, and did anyone ever correctly guess the authorship of Filfaeril Bound And Willing?
Thanks!
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Blueblade
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USA
804 Posts

Posted - 20 Sep 2009 :  17:28:34  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Nope, no one has. Not yet.
At least, not here at the Keep, in the forums. Quite a few scribes who have guessed haven't yet used all three of their allowed guesses, though.
Me, I've given up and am just waiting for Ed to tell us. Patiently.

BB

Edited by - Blueblade on 23 Sep 2009 02:02:55
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Malcolm
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Posted - 20 Sep 2009 :  17:30:20  Show Profile  Visit Malcolm's Homepage Send Malcolm a Private Message
Hah! Patient, my left-side nose-hairs!
Has any other scribe been following Ed's interview at the Grognardia blog, of James Malizewski (probably got that surname wrong, sorry)?

Edited by - Malcolm on 20 Sep 2009 17:32:29
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Baleful Avatar
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Canada
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Posted - 20 Sep 2009 :  17:34:34  Show Profile  Visit Baleful Avatar's Homepage Send Baleful Avatar a Private Message
No, but I'll check it out.
I can't keep up with Ed: Paizo, Open Design, Facebook, here at the Keep, Loremaster, this Grognardia blog now, Wizards, Tor, Solaris, DAW, Morrigan Books and all of the other places he gets published; does the man ever SLEEP?
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Broken Helm
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USA
108 Posts

Posted - 20 Sep 2009 :  17:36:45  Show Profile  Visit Broken Helm's Homepage Send Broken Helm a Private Message
Hah! What is this "sleep" you speak of?
Me, I'm dedicated to denying Ed sleep for the rest of his life! I intend to keep him busy answering endless lore questions, like: so, Ed, WILL you be writing stuff for this new company Frank Mentzer, Jim Ward, and Tim Kask are starting (as reported at Dragonfoot)?
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Kyrene
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South Africa
648 Posts

Posted - 21 Sep 2009 :  10:03:27  Show Profile  Visit Kyrene's Homepage Send Kyrene a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Kyrene, Ed says:


Well spotted, and thank you! I forgot to write that in: it is indeed two steps, then a "flourish" for a beat (the time it would take to make one step; the "flourish is instead both dancers remaining stationary below the waists, but flinging their arms up and bending backwards a bit at the waists from each other), then the two steps back.
Well caught; thank you!

So saith Ed. Who's obviously not as good at the dance as Kyrene is! Well caught, indeed!
love,
THO


Oh, think nothing of it. I was merely wondering if there would be enough time during the "flourish" (yes, that is a much better word for it) to do something more: like perhaps a quick twirl of one or both partners, or the "rock back" step like in the two-step. I then noticed that the beat was missing...

I would definately try this dance as a variation to the waltz.

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Jorkens
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Norway
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Posted - 21 Sep 2009 :  16:46:48  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Sage of Stars

Dear Ed,
What's this I'm hearing about you working on the script for the first Hobbit movie?
Or is this something you're constrained from discussing (or even admitting)?



This sounds like a loose rumour to me. Then again, I pay little attention to the movie plans.

And what Google publishing mess?
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Blueblade
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USA
804 Posts

Posted - 21 Sep 2009 :  18:53:12  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Jorkens, I agree; sounds like mere rumor to me, too.

As for the Google publishing mess, A Publishing Lackey means the plan by Google to make out of print fiction works in English available online, without asking permission from the authors, UNLESS authors register to "opt out."
In other words, if you don't discover that we're going to do this and tell us to stop in a certain way (online) by a certain date, your books will be made available to everyone online, regardless of current copyright status, legal entanglements, outstanding rights (such as a movie or television option that hasn't yet expired, foreign language editions still in print that will face sales losses because someone using Google's local translation will now be able to obtain a novel without actually buying the book), etc.
I say "mess" because I might well be describing Google's position incorrectly (because they have stated it in several different ways over the previous year, as objections have arisen), and because of those objections: the U.S. Justice Department has objected to this Google plan, Amazon has objected, various groups (e.g. the Author's Guild, SFWA, the romance and mystery writers' associations in the US, and so on) have taken various positions on it - - and of course no one in any other country but the US has even been directly notified, let alone consulted.
So as of right now nothing's been settled, everything is in confusion, various American judges have issued various injunctions and rulings, and many parties (NOT writers, by and large, because they lack the money to do so) are now "lawyering up" for the big fight.
I have no idea what position Ed or THO hold on this, BTW, but most successful genre writers and their agents are furious, because it means no book can ever be "resold" after it's been unavailable for years. (Some of the less successful ones are hopeful their works will reach a wider audience, so long as they get compensated, but exactly what compensation will be paid to writers, and how, has been murky, too.) Also, many print publishers will probably never admit, ever again, that a work they've published is going out of print, to keep it out of Google's clutches (unless THEY sell it to Google, perhaps without the author's involvement or knowledge).
Whatever happens, many countries (the UK included) are going to wake up and have to hastily amend their long-standing copyright laws to reflect or address "whatever happens."
All of which means . . . "mess" is a good word.
Wizards of the Coast and other large game publishers will probably largely avoid this, because Hasbro has a large and energetic legal department used to protecting its trademarks, copyrights, and intellectual properties.
Sorry to inject a lot of real-world, unfun "lore" into this thread, but it DOES directly affect Ed Greenwood's career, works, and perhaps how lore (including Realmslore) will be published in the future, so it IS relevant.
And to further bolster that relevance: care to comment, THO or Ed?
Thanks!
BB

Edited by - Blueblade on 21 Sep 2009 18:58:04
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A Publishing Lackey
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Posted - 21 Sep 2009 :  19:03:38  Show Profile  Visit A Publishing Lackey's Homepage Send A Publishing Lackey a Private Message
Whew. Nicely put, Blueblade. I was sitting here pondering just HOW to explain the Google thing to Jorkens, when your post appeared. You've done as good a job as is possible, I think.
Everything IS confusion . . . and, yes, a "mess."
We'll just have to see what unfolds.
In the meantime, back to Realmslore! Ed and THO, my question this time is: how well does the average, stay-at-home citizen in a port city on the Sword Coast (Baldur's Gate, say, or Neverwinter, or Athkatla, or Murann) know the geography of what's nearby, inland? What roads lead where, known disputes or trouble areas for monsters or brigands, crops grown or stuff mined or logged, that sort of thing? Inland politics (either in their own realm or neighboring)?
Thank you.
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Icelander
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 22 Sep 2009 :  07:55:40  Show Profile  Visit Icelander's Homepage Send Icelander a Private Message
It seems greedy in the extreme to impose again, but indulgence has always bred an unwarranted sense of entitlement in the spoilt and wicked (among whose ranks you will find me, sleek and happy).

I'm looking for a noble family of Cormyr that was considered iconic and part of the realm's history (and if possible, its very identity) for a long time, but somehow fell from grace before the war with the Witch Kings and was stripped of all titles and lands.

If it could tie into the earliest history of the Forest Kingdom, that would be even better.

I'm going to have a surviving scion of the house have provided personal service to the King in the war against the Witch King and been restored to his anscestral rights, but died before he could claim the rights.

Without my players' knowledge, an adventure they took part in a several years ago (real time, the time in-game is just over a year) resulted in evidence being unearthed that allowed the current heir of the family to prove his status and enter upon the long and difficult task of joining the ranks of Cormyr's fair nobles. His relationship with the Dragon Throne will be helped in no small way by the fact that he is a warrior of courage and skill (who has ruled a minor duchy in the Border Kingdoms until now) and has 'more innate honour and nobility than a ten titles could give him', in the words of Caladnei after being allowed to probe his mind throughly.

Now I wonder what family name to give this scion, since the player characters will meet him within a few sessions.

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Blueblade
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USA
804 Posts

Posted - 22 Sep 2009 :  16:19:24  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Dear Ed and THO,
Apropos of the geography question posted by A Publishing Lackey, above, I have a supplementary, for Murann only:
How quickly does news and rumor usually travel from inland Tethyr to Murann? And vice versea? And how often/how badly does it usually get distorted, in the process?
Thanks!
BB
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gomez
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Netherlands
254 Posts

Posted - 22 Sep 2009 :  20:38:15  Show Profile  Visit gomez's Homepage Send gomez a Private Message
I am using an unaligned cleric of Malar in my current campaign (THO should know which one).
While I have a fair idea on how she became a cleric, and can still be considered unaligned, I run into people who balk at the idea. So I am looking for more context to place her in and give her some sympathy.
So, are there any known Malar-worshipping hunts (including clerics) that are non-evil? Particularly the Moonsea area, but can be anywhere. How do these groups interpret Malar's will?
Both pre- and post-plague may be of interest. )

Also, though I suspect it is NDA, I am intersted on whether and how Malar's behavior (or attitude) changed after leaving Talos and coming under the influence of Silvanus.
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uaintjak
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Posted - 23 Sep 2009 :  01:27:40  Show Profile  Visit uaintjak's Homepage Send uaintjak a Private Message
This is mostly a question for THO, I guess, though I'll certainly take any answer I can get.

The Knights of Myth Drannor were really what sold me on the whole Realms...I'm not entirely sure why, as their background in the old grey box set is relatively sparse. Nevertheless, they're what made me fall in love with the Realms before I even got past the "Adventuring Companies" chapter in that old beat up book.

Ok, now to the question. You've mentioned before that the "core" Knights (Florin, Jhessail, Illistyl, Doust, etc) were only about a third or so of the actual roster, but we've never seen or heard about any of the others (as far as I know). I'd like to introduce my players to some of the lesser known (unknown) Knights, without them knowing just who they're tangling with. Would it be possible to get some basic info on some of those "lesser" Knights? I still use a combo of 1st/2nd ed. rules, so "Vedellen Hawkhand (NG hem R1)" is really all I'm looking for, if it doesn't violate any NDA. Heck, even just name, race, and class would be great, as I can adapt them to fit my group's levels and temperaments...but with still somewhat of an official Realms flare.

Thanks for taking the time to read this.
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Blueblade
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USA
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Posted - 23 Sep 2009 :  02:02:14  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
uaintjak, I'm not THO or Ed, but I can help a little, I think.
One of the Knights was a female cleric (of what, I can't remember) named Eressea Ambergyles, and there was briefly a Nehwonian ghoul (female transparent flesh over visible skeleton) named Lacheera (I think) adventuring with the Knights (don't know if she officially was a Knight or not), and Mourngrym Amcathra (the Lord of Shadowdale after Doust) was a Knight, as was Aumark Lithyl, who was a young noble of Ruathym and left the Knights to return home when family deaths left him suddenly heir to the rulership of that land . . . and the ranger Sharantyr (of the Rangers Three) was also a Knight. These are just who I can remember from many short conversations with Ed at GenCons (and a Great Canadian Baycon, too), down the years.
If more pop back into my mind, I'll post again - - unless Ed or THO beat me to it, of course.
BB
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Malcolm
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Posted - 23 Sep 2009 :  02:06:38  Show Profile  Visit Malcolm's Homepage Send Malcolm a Private Message
Was Dove Falconhand (Florin's bride, formerly Dove Silverhand, of the Seven Sisters) ever officially a Knight?
And didn't Ed once say that Lacheera came to the Knights as the companion of Tamper Tencoin? Was HE ever a member?
Hmm. The depths of my ignorance yawn, they do . . .
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 23 Sep 2009 :  02:15:07  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all. Great questions re. both the Crazed Venturers and the Knights, but I'm not going to reply to them until I've checked with Ed (there ARE some NDAs buzzing around some characters, and I want to be VERY sure what's "allowed" and what's not, when I start typing).
This time, Ed tackles this recent query, from Blueblade: "How quickly does news and rumor usually travel from inland Tethyr to Murann? And vice versa? And how often/how badly does it usually get distorted, in the process? Thanks!"
Ed replies:

Just before the Spellplague, I'd say coastal stuff, nobles' scandals and deaths, massacres and major news OR rumors of the "dragon flying in to devour herds or attack a town" or "brigand massacre in X!" sort would take two tendays or less to reach Murann. Big news from either of the "next along the coastal road" communities, 2 days or so. Minor stuff (three black cows born where none known before) might take a month, or five tendays at most. Interestingly, in Tethyr, the distortions tend to get wild when the news travels fast, rather than being twisted along the way when it travels slowly (the reverse of what happens in most of the rest of the Realms). Yes, some manglings are severe - - but in Tethyr, since the Black Days, the populace has learned to be wary and suspicious, and corrections/debunkings soon follow, and tend to be believed (even when themselves wrong). In short, almost all Tethyrian coastal port dwellers are cynical and worldly-wise . . . or like to think of themselves as so.


So saith Ed, creator of Tethyr, Murann, and most of the Realms around them.
love to all,
THO
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uaintjak
Acolyte

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Posted - 23 Sep 2009 :  15:07:18  Show Profile  Visit uaintjak's Homepage Send uaintjak a Private Message
Thanks for the swift replies. Blue, I knew about Sharantyr, Mourngrym, Dove, etc (to me, they count on the roster as more of the "well known" Knights). Aumark Lithyl I know about from FR7 (in fact. the entire reason I bought that was to get more on the history of the Knights). I always assumed Aumark Lithyl was a cavalier, due to his being replaced by Mourngrym, though I could of course be wrong on that score. Eressea Ambyergyles was a cleric of Tymora, btw (hey, I know my grey box stuff).

Stupid questions begetting more questions! Thinking of FR7 made me think of two more questions. Were Alura "Pennae" Durshavin, Agannor Wildsilver, Bey Freemantle, and Martess Ilmra (and thank goodness she finally got a last name, can't tell you how long that's bugged me) run by players or as NPCs?

Second question. I know that the Company of Eight was created by Steven Schend (I think that's who it was) but when reading their history in FR7, I came across the names of former Eight members, whose names sounded distinctly Greenwoodian (for lack of a better term). I'm thinking of Kaleene Thalwood, Mirthal Aendryr, Thiel Ralmun, and Chiaelin Frendel. Did Ed create these characters to give the Company some history, or did Steven?
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Kilvan
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Canada
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Posted - 23 Sep 2009 :  16:56:06  Show Profile Send Kilvan a Private Message
Hello dear scribes.

Iím currently reading Sword of dragonfire, and Iíve just finished what I now consider to be the best chapter Iíve ever read: Ch 16. The high price of entertainment. I donít want to spoil it to anyone, but in it there is an encounter involving a few of the Realmís greatest names, including Elminster and Manshoon.

My question is this: At some point, Elminster threaten Manshoon to reveal to Fzoul the wording of the pact with the beholders which involves Manshoon mating withÖ someone (or something?). Manshoon interrupted Elminster before he could finish, so we are left in the dark as to what this is about. I wondered if Ed could enlighten us on this.

Thank you

Oblivion loomed on every side, the offspring lived, basking in the realization that each moment could be the last moment.
--This was the beauty of chaos
--This was the beauty of Lolth
--This was the doom for all, but one

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althen artren
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Posted - 23 Sep 2009 :  19:25:39  Show Profile Send althen artren a Private Message
Kilvan,
It's beholders. It seems that he was actually mating with beholders. As to the why, I doubt we'll ever know. But I did ask about this in
another forum.

Edited by - althen artren on 23 Sep 2009 19:26:36
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Kilvan
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Canada
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Posted - 23 Sep 2009 :  19:33:40  Show Profile Send Kilvan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by althen artren

Kilvan,
It's beholders. It seems that he was actually mating with beholders. As to the why, I doubt we'll ever know. But I did ask about this in
another forum.




Is it strange that I'm almost more interested in the how than in the why? Seriously though, I hope Ed can provide some more info on the reasons for this... deal.

Oblivion loomed on every side, the offspring lived, basking in the realization that each moment could be the last moment.
--This was the beauty of chaos
--This was the beauty of Lolth
--This was the doom for all, but one

Quote from "Extinction"
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Marek
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Italy
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Posted - 23 Sep 2009 :  21:56:51  Show Profile  Visit Marek's Homepage Send Marek a Private Message
Hey there,
another question from my community:

-What's the exact process through which Mystril reaches godhood becoming Mystra?
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

5036 Posts

Posted - 24 Sep 2009 :  04:05:21  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello again, all. I've just had an e-mail from Ed, back home from a late meeting inspecting a library renovation (he's chair of his local library board, and a heritage library is being "fixed"), in response to the last two queries in this thread.
Heeeere's Ed!


Marek, I'm afraid mortals (i.e. all characters in the Realms) don't know how Mystril reached godhood, or precisely how any of those who were Mystra became Mystra. Even Midnight, the "last" Mystra, isn't quite sure HOW she became Mystra, because her mind was overwhelmed by the process.
I and some former TSR designers know - - or at least, we know what was agreed-upon, back in the late 1980s, behind the scenes; current WotC designers may well have different views - - re. this, but NDAs prevent any of us from telling you. Such is one of the hurdles of playing in a shared world.


Kilvan, althen artren is indeed correct on what Manshoon was doing. As to "how" AND "why" - - I'm sorry, those are both ALSO under NDA right now. All I can say is you certainly should eventually discover something of the "why," in something obviously not yet published. I'm afraid I can't yet be more specific. Sorry (and I really am; I KNOW the ache of wanting to know, and am feeling the ache of wanting to spill the beans, right now - - but I can't).


So saith Ed. I, too, know (from long-ago events in the home Realms campaign, not from familiarity with whatever not-yet-published lore Ed is speaking of, above). However, I've signed my share of NDAs, and also know how horrible it is when someone ruins a surprise, so . . . I'm afraid you'll just have to wait on this one.
love,
THO
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