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Nicolai Withander
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Posted - 25 Nov 2008 :  00:21:52  Show Profile Send Nicolai Withander a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Im just wondering if anyone could please tell me if this tower still exicts in the year 1374 DR.

Many thanks!

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Posted - 25 Nov 2008 :  00:57:27  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nicolai Withander

Im just wondering if anyone could please tell me if this tower still exicts in the year 1374 DR.

Many thanks!



Haven't heard that it doesn't exist at that time...

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scererar
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Posted - 25 Nov 2008 :  01:49:30  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It is not mentioned at all in either FRCG or FRCG.
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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 25 Nov 2008 :  03:07:37  Show Profile Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
-No. As per the Ruins of Myth Drannor, only the bottom-most cellar level is all that remains. Where the tower once stood, glowing motes of magic sprinkle and sparkle.

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Kuje
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Posted - 25 Nov 2008 :  03:49:23  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Indeed, it was launched somewhere but we've never found out where. See also the Cormanthyr sourcebook and it's companion, The Fall of Myth Drannor.

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The Sage
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Only the Tower itself flew away. The remainder of the rest fell to ruin during the Fall or afterward.

Note that the destruction of the extradimensional spaces and rooms and whatnot is unlikely--only their easiest and known physical access points.

Thus, if you know exactly how things were set up in days of yore, you could have the possible chance of accessing those hidden rooms and the treasures within them.

As it was, Steven Schend was being purposefully vague [as well as rushed on that deadline in time and cramped for space in words].

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 25 Nov 2008 :  06:55:45  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's also detailed in the Anauroch adventure book. The physical tower fell to ruin, however, the extradimensional tower that resides in the tree is still present and accounted for, although a little more worn for wear by the time the adventurers get to it.

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Nicolai Withander
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Posted - 26 Nov 2008 :  00:54:49  Show Profile Send Nicolai Withander a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So if one wanted access to the "tree" ergo the Nether Scrolls.. What would one have to do?

Any help is greatly needed!
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Ashe Ravenheart
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Anauroch: Empire of Shade

The elves who built the school went out of their way to make entry difficult for the uninvited. The shifting entrance to the main tower has been destroyed, along with the structure. Two fairly easy methods of entry remain, however. The first is a portal located in the rubble that marks where the central tower once stood. The second is the wreck of Windsong Aerie; a determined party also might force its way in by breaching the walls of the Shadowsong Tree.


Windsong Tower rings will redirect any portal in Myth Drannor to the tower's entry hall.

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Hoondatha
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Posted - 26 Nov 2008 :  04:42:45  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Any gate within 5 miles of the city, actually. There's also an extremely rare 7th level spell that allows the caster to use any gate anywhere in at least Realmspace to teleport to the central building of the complex. Requires a Towerkin ring to cast, however.

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 26 Nov 2008 :  14:58:28  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, there's also the Greater Windsong Tower rings, they allow you to use any portal to wind up at Windsong Tower.

Both rings also positively affect the teleportation error chances of spells.

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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 26 Nov 2008 :  18:46:10  Show Profile Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nicolai Withander

So if one wanted access to the "tree" ergo the Nether Scrolls.. What would one have to do?

Any help is greatly needed!



-Ask the Shadovar. If I'm not mistaken, the Shadovar were able to remove the Nether Scrolls with some ease, whereas other entities have labored for years, and still failed.

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 26 Nov 2008 :  19:50:03  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's not really that the Shadovar succeeded so much. They went to Windsong tower looking for more information on the Book of the Black and discovered the Scrolls there totally by accident. No one knew they were there, so no one was looking for them there. Most just saw it as a ruin of the old school. There are other ways to get in to the tower without a ring or even the portal. Usually would-be intruders were turned by the guardian, but he had been falling into a torpor-like mediation the last few centuries and the Shadovar happened to be looking around while he wasn't paying attention.

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Brimstone
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Posted - 26 Nov 2008 :  19:56:45  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
-Interesting take Ashe.


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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 26 Nov 2008 :  19:59:37  Show Profile Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart

It's not really that the Shadovar succeeded so much. They went to Windsong tower looking for more information on the Book of the Black and discovered the Scrolls there totally by accident. No one knew they were there, so no one was looking for them there. Most just saw it as a ruin of the old school. There are other ways to get in to the tower without a ring or even the portal. Usually would-be intruders were turned by the guardian, but he had been falling into a torpor-like mediation the last few centuries and the Shadovar happened to be looking around while he wasn't paying attention.



-Hmm...Pretty being coincidence there...

-When I asked Rich Baker, he gave an "actual" reason, which can be looked up, if anyone cares.

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Edited by - Lord Karsus on 26 Nov 2008 20:00:12
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Ashe Ravenheart
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What was Rich's reason? I'm only going by what is published in Anauroch:EoS, mind you, so if there are more ideas, I'd love to hear them since I'm gearing up to run the adventure!

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Nicolai Withander
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Posted - 26 Nov 2008 :  21:45:37  Show Profile Send Nicolai Withander a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So... Are the scrolls/ the tree no longer in the windsong tower plane in 1374? If not where?
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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 26 Nov 2008 :  22:14:23  Show Profile Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart

What was Rich's reason? I'm only going by what is published in Anauroch:EoS, mind you, so if there are more ideas, I'd love to hear them since I'm gearing up to run the adventure!



-I'll have to dig through his replies sometime later. I scanned his current active thread, but I didn't ask in that one. I asked in the previous incarnation of it, which I will poke around and look for.

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 27 Nov 2008 :  04:20:22  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nicolai Withander

So... Are the scrolls/ the tree no longer in the windsong tower plane in 1374? If not where?


Okay, this is the SPOILER for the Anauroch adventure, so if you're going to play in it, no peeking!!


The Nether Scrolls were taken in their beech tree form to a site in the Anauroch desert near the city of Shade. There, Sharrans had created a dead magic zone that covered the entire desert, centered on the tree itself. Hadrhune himself is overseeing the corruption of the tree to translate the Nether Scrolls from Weave magic to Shadow Weave. Fortunately, with the help of an ancient elf guardian and the Chalice of Amaunator, the adventurers are able to stop the ritual. Unfortunately, the side effect of the ritual destroys the Sharn Wall and scatters the scrolls (except for one) across the entire face of Toril.

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