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Mr_Miscellany
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Posted - 17 Feb 2011 :  22:04:38  Show Profile Send Mr_Miscellany a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Jarth Immerdusk who was given the unique (and never used since) Purple Dragon rank of Kingsblade (higher than Oversword but lower than Battlemaster)...
OK that's pretty cool! I'm gobbling up this lore by the way. It's very useful and fun to read about.

I’d not considered the concept of the Purple Dragons not being around, either. Obviously they had to have been founded at some point, but the idea that they weren’t always there is pretty cool.

A question, if I may: With regard to the history of the Purple Dragons, were there other unique ranks handed out to individual Cormyreans?
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Ayrik
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I am very much reminded of the elixirs in Volo's Guide to All Things Magical ... and of the legendary grey box.

Thanx, GK

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Fellfire
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Brilliant work, Mr. Krashos. I love all the lore you have managed to cram in there. That is how it should be done. I always liked the "Elixir lore" from Volo's Guide and wondered if there were more.

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Wooly Rupert
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The lore is very good, friend Krash. I gotta say, though, that the permanent effects of the Storm Quaff seem a bit limited, especially compared to the other two.

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Nicely done, Krash. I particularly like the "Elixir Arcane." I can definitely see some use for that material.

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George Krashos
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Posted - 20 Mar 2011 :  04:52:57  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

The lore is very good, friend Krash. I gotta say, though, that the permanent effects of the Storm Quaff seem a bit limited, especially compared to the other two.



Agreed. But it doesn't have much of a downside either. It follows the other "elemental resistance" elixirs in power.

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Wooly Rupert
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Good enough, then.

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Posted - 05 Apr 2011 :  05:52:49  Show Profile  Visit Dalor Darden's Homepage Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

As they say in the classics: better late than never.

Agrosh "the Scaled"

<snip>

The proclamation of the Triad Crusade and the coming of the great paladin army of Sarshel Elethlim and the advent of the Fiend Wars saw Agrosh ride to war at the head of his Horned Legion, a hand-picked cohort of half-fiend warriors, most of whom were Tarriks or trusted Tarrik retainers. Despite his martial prowess and unearthly strength and vitality, Agrosh was slain in the overpowering attack of the paladin army's vanguard, led by Belthar Garshin, at the Battle of Horned Heads. It is said that he had the satisfaction of drinking Belthar's blood before he was transfixed by a score of holy, blessed spears and his dead body transformed into a pile of maggots ere it was cleansed with fire.

So passed unmourned the only monarch of the "Demon Dynasty" and with his death, Impiltur began its return from the great maelstrom of death and darkness which had torn it asunder.

-- George Krashos




Dang...I LIKE this guy!

Any chance one of those maggots got away?

I picture it feeding on a dead corpse after the battle, being buried; then later the body being possessed and Agrosh clawing his way out of the ground in a possessed body...

Or BETTER: being so powerful that his "death" caused him to be banished to the Abyss...as a Marquis Cambion (as he is the Son of Eltab he could be nothing but a Marquis). As Cambions have no ability to use Planar Travel (unless learning magic to do so), he would essentially be stuck in the Abyss unless summoned.

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Zireael
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I can't find the post you've quoted from, Dalor. Care to give a link?
And how is Cormyr Lineage coming up?

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George Krashos
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quote:
Originally posted by Zireael

I can't find the post you've quoted from, Dalor. Care to give a link?
And how is Cormyr Lineage coming up?



The description of Agrosh is on p.6 of this thread.

-- George Krashos

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Posted - 05 Apr 2011 :  15:14:24  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

Any chance one of those maggots got away?

I picture it feeding on a dead corpse after the battle, being buried; then later the body being possessed and Agrosh clawing his way out of the ground in a possessed body...
DALOR....

That's really, REALLY good! I am SOOOOOOO stealing that!!!

The horror-factor is off-the-hook.

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Posted - 05 Apr 2011 :  16:51:58  Show Profile  Visit Dalor Darden's Homepage Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

Any chance one of those maggots got away?

I picture it feeding on a dead corpse after the battle, being buried; then later the body being possessed and Agrosh clawing his way out of the ground in a possessed body...
DALOR....

That's really, REALLY good! I am SOOOOOOO stealing that!!!

The horror-factor is off-the-hook.



Not really my own idea...I kinda hooked it in with the Sons of Kyuss.

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Posted - 05 Apr 2011 :  17:55:08  Show Profile  Visit Dalor Darden's Homepage Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

quote:
Originally posted by Zireael

I can't find the post you've quoted from, Dalor. Care to give a link?
And how is Cormyr Lineage coming up?



The description of Agrosh is on p.6 of this thread.

-- George Krashos




George, could I bother you for a physical description of Agrosh and perhaps his favored arms, armor and magical items favored? Or, I would be glad to send you something I have in mind for him privately and you could simply say "That fits roughly my idea of him." or "That isn't exactly how I envisioned him honestly."

What think ye?

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George Krashos
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quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

quote:
Originally posted by Zireael

I can't find the post you've quoted from, Dalor. Care to give a link?
And how is Cormyr Lineage coming up?



The description of Agrosh is on p.6 of this thread.

-- George Krashos




George, could I bother you for a physical description of Agrosh and perhaps his favored arms, armor and magical items favored? Or, I would be glad to send you something I have in mind for him privately and you could simply say "That fits roughly my idea of him." or "That isn't exactly how I envisioned him honestly."

What think ye?



Send me a PM with the details and I'll get back to ya.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

quote:
Originally posted by Zireael

I can't find the post you've quoted from, Dalor. Care to give a link?
And how is Cormyr Lineage coming up?



The description of Agrosh is on p.6 of this thread.

-- George Krashos




George, could I bother you for a physical description of Agrosh and perhaps his favored arms, armor and magical items favored? Or, I would be glad to send you something I have in mind for him privately and you could simply say "That fits roughly my idea of him." or "That isn't exactly how I envisioned him honestly."

What think ye?



Send me a PM with the details and I'll get back to ya.

-- George Krashos

Hey now... so long as the lore Krash will be sharing is of a non-private nature, can we see it posted here too?

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Dalor Darden
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Finally got around to sending this off to George...if he wants it here, he can feel free to post it.

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George gave me the "OK" so here is a bit more about Agrosh "the Scaled", Demon King of Impiltur:

Agrosh is a formidable foe to look upon; the sheer sight of him was enough to instill fear in the hearts of many a man called brave even in the face of a Dragon. Even if Agrosh were only a normal human, his menacing height of seven feet would cause many men to cower when coupled with the iron-hard thews of his frame. His raw physical power was proven superior to any ogre and even some giants were humbled by his feats of strength. His crimson-scaled hide was said to be as supple as any human flesh, but as strong as adamantine; easily capable of shedding blows as if they were rain drops. Befitting his position as both the son of an Abyssal Lord and King of Impiltur, Agrosh’s head is crowned by a ring of fifteen horns. Thirteen of these are approximately two inches long and the other two, which are positioned at the front of his head with three smaller horns between, are fully half a foot long and savagely sharp as a dagger.

Even without a blade in his hand or spear to throw at his quarry, Agrosh is well armed with clawed hands capable of rending plate armor and a fanged mouth that is both human and yet not; a mouth that took the life from the throats of many he had hunted down like animals. Like his hands, his feet are armed with wicked talons instead of simple nails. A single kick from him is capable of impaling the abdomen of a victim upon his foot and rending entrails and drawing them forth.

His demonic heritage obvious, Agrosh is still an unearthly, even beautiful, sight to behold in his moments of cold calculation in thought. His crown of horns sits atop a heavy head of silken black hair which he is prideful of and keeps well maintained and decorated with gold clasps. Agrosh prefers the finest clothes of silk and adorns himself with gold jewelry set with contrasting diamonds and blackest onyx.

Agrosh’s favored weapon is a viciously serrated greatsword of adamantine. While none know if it carried a name, many know that it carried horrid enchantments. Even the slightest drawing forth of blood from a foe causes a horrid bleeding to begin; while Agrosh is known to have gained in strength from this blood-letting. Most often however, this wicked sword was known for cleaving limbs and heads from foes with a powerful vorpal enchantment; and streams of bloody red energy would suffuse his body with yet more strength.

When hunting his favored quarry, sentient beings, Agrosh favored either riding them down with a wickedly barbed lance or throwing broad-headed hunting spears into the backs of his fleeing prey. His lance was said to paralyze many of his foes, while the spears he threw were said to crackle with writhing purple energy which would bind their limbs in uncontrollable spasms.

Agrosh, as powerful physically as he was, favored plate armor that had been crafted by great fiendish smiths in the depths of the Abyss by vassals of his father; then brought to Faerun by mortal agents. This armor was made of black iron said to be cooled in the blood of a score of Rakshasa, and smelted by the burning of bones from the same. Only holy weapons could cause harm to Agrosh because of it; and then only if wielded by holy foes.

When Agrosh had finally taken the throne of Impiltur, he also took a scepter in hand as well; said to have been capable of bending the will of almost anyone to his dark demands. Sundered by Belthar Garshin while attempting to break the vanguard of the paladin army on the fields of The Battle of Horned Heads, it is thought his ruling scepter was in fact a powerful Rod of Rulership gifted to him by Soneillon to cement his position. This same pictured scepter figured prominently upon Agrosh’s standard; which was a black field with many red horns spiraling out from a demonic red hand center, grasping the scepter sinister. Agrosh’s armor and sword were said to have been disjoined and disintegrated to ensure their vile power was never again used by anyone.

If any thought Agrosh was simply a physically powerful half-fiend to be feared in battle, few realized that his power over the blackest magic rivaled many who claimed to be a great wizard. Agrosh relished physical blood-letting however, and his magic was usually used to augment his already fearsome ability and thwart the attacks of foes against him; seldom did he resort to the hurling of battle-spells, relying instead upon his summoning of fiends, necromantic perversions, divinations and abjurations. It is said he was greatly skilled in the arts of charms, using them to exert his will upon hapless victims of his carnal desires; but his most loved form of magic was illusions and phantasms he used to torment and bedevil those he hunted.

His favored “hunting game” involved allowing someone to believe that they had escaped him and reached a promised destination where a loved one was known to be. The quarry would then, and ever so slowly, be tormented with doubt and finally revelation that their loved one lay in a mauled puddle of bloody gore as the remains of a horrid feast before Agrosh would reveal himself and inform them they were the last course since they had been “fattened” up by food served them by their supposed loved one; but was in fact instead fed their own loved one.

Simply put, Agrosh was a wholly evil being without a shred of humanity coursing through his black demonic blood.

STATISTICS:

I haven't fully outlined Agrosh's Statistics for all versions of D&D; but below are the rough beginnings of two.

3.5 Stats: Chaotic Evil Human Male Half-Fiend Ranger/Assassin/Sorcerer (6/4/10) with Humans as his greatest species enemy and magic focusing on augmentation of physical power and protection; but with spells also suited to manipulations of various sorts.

1e Stats: Chaotic Evil Marquis Cambion Fighter 16, Assassin 8, Magic-User 5, Illusionist 16; focusing again on the above sorts of spells. Str: 20, Int: 18, Wis: 14, Dex: 17, Con: 18, Chr: 24 (allowing him to instill Awe/Revulsion at will in those he wishes as if he had a – 6 Charisma); +1 or better weapon to hit (half damage from magical weapons below +3 while armored), 40% Magic Resistance (complete immunity to spells of less than 8th level while armored). Agrosh can Cause Fear by touch (even through his held weapons), Detect Magic, Levitate and Polymorph Self at will and at the 8th level of ability. He carried a +3 Two-Handed Vorpal Sword with the properties of a Wounding Blade that also had the same powers as a Vampiric Ring of Regeneration. His armor was equal to Full Plate armor +3 that also bestowed upon Agrosh the same defensive powers of a Rakshasa 20 times over; thus his death at the hands of 20 holy spears! His Scepter was indeed a Rod of Rulership, and his lance was a Light Lance +2 that could be commanded to cause paralyzation (as the wand), and his favored hunting spears were but +1 spears endowed with the power of a Hold Person spell when thrown and commanded (the effect usable for each spear only once per day).

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George Krashos
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Just posted this to another thread and thought it bore repeating for my own stuff here in this thread. Enjoy.

The Narfelli bound demons into magical prisons known as demoncysts. The demoncyst form of trapping demons commonly occurred on the outer fringes of Narfelli lands (i.e. as a type of border security) to be called upon by Demonbinders as needed and was the least sophisticated means of compelling demons to service used by the Narfelli. The demoncyst ritual involved summoning the demon in question to the Prime and then using their own unique variant of the 'Imprisonment' spell to entomb the demon (or 'drith' in the Narfelli tongue) at a particular location.

What the Narfelli realised early on in the process was that the extra-planar nature of drith made a normal 'Imprisonment' spell prone to collapsing over time, which of course led to much devastation and trouble when an unbound demon appeared 'out of no-where' and started to run amok. This led to the Narfelli working on a more demon-oriented variant of that spell which proved much more stable - but not completely so. As such it was common for only relatively minor drith to be bound in this fashion (usually nothing more powerful than a chasme, more often a handful of dretch or rutterkin) and for there to be safeguards put in place to prevent unleashed demons from doing their own things if unleashed incorrectly. Those safeguards usually took the form of spell-trigger magics to banish said unleashed demon(s) or other types of ward magics to prevent their freedom of movement. As with all dealing with extra-planar creatures, the efficacy of such spells varied wildly on circumstances and the unpredictability of the Art.

I note that there were more than a few Demonbinders who refused to 'play by the rules' and used demoncyst magic to build secret sentinels/armies in more populated areas (i.e. in and around Narfelli settlements) and also were lax in placing appropriate safeguards on their demoncysts - so essentially, anything goes in this regard.

Most 'sanctioned' demoncysts needed to be recognisable to Demonbinders - for it was intended that they be an intrinsic aspect of the defence of the realm and so required to be accessible to all 'army personnel as it were - and so the releasing of subject demon(s) was by way of command word and the touching of a particular item (usually a small brass engraved disc) located at the site of the cyst. Most Demonbinders used "Permanency" on themselves to give them the power of a lower-level variant "Arcane Sight" spell that allowed them to see drith summoning magics (specifically for location of demoncysts and wards against demons) and so could readily observe and activate such sites.

With the passing of the centuries, the demoncyst magics have all degraded to a degree. They are far less stable and accordingly, sometimes simply touching the brass disc located at a demoncyst site without uttering the command word is enough to release the demon(s) in question. It must be noted that the Demoncyst ritual was keyed specifically to humans, so the touching of a disc by wild animals, elves, dragons, dwarves etc would all (usually) have no effect. Similarly, disturbing the area of ground at or nearby to a demoncyst by digging, plowing, etc. has been known to unleash the demons entombed there. Most denizens of the Great Dale do no digging at all if it can be avoided - experience having taught them that the simple act of digging a grave can lead to deadly consequences. Customs in the Great Dale are modified accordingly (they cremate their dead rather than bury; they use hammered in stakes with stout ropes to hold wooden dwellings in place rather than digging stone foundations; etc.).

The largest concentration of demoncysts are located on the southern edge of the Great Dale along the northern part of the Forest of Lethyr, around present-day Mistbridge and the Falls of Erech, near the Citadel of Conjurers in Impiltur and in and around the environs of Dun-Tharos. This is despite centuries of "clean up" by the druids of the region.

-- George Krashos

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being as though Damara and Narfell are border neighbors, are there any demoncysts in Damaran lands?

and if so how does the Tree-Gem affect them (rendered them empty? ... will insta-banish the demon if released? ... etc)

I think the sources say the Tree-Gem banishes demons in the "Bloodstone Lands" ... Narfell is a part of the Bloodstone Lands in FR9 and of course at the time of the Tree-Gem gift Damara was having an awful time dealing with Orcus worshippers and thus there may be some overlap

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So Krash, can you gimme any meaty-gravy covered cormanthor
stuff that maybe isn't covered by nasty sharp NDA's?
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Althen: NDAs aren't sharp; they are nassty, trickssy, falsse, but not sharp.
Back to you, GK...

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.
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NDA's are like the orc's of the Realms.

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quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

NDA's are like the orc's of the Realms.



As in, they're evil and they're everywhere? I'm inclined to agree, especially with respect to the older ones. A shiny new NDA means a shiny new project underway, so I'm okay with those, but NDAs need expiry dates. I've ranted to George and Ed about this in the past, so I'll stop here.

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Hi Mr Krashos,

I was reading through an old scroll from a few years ago at http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1901&whichpage=37

And I found this post of yours:
quote:Originally posted by George Krashos
During Steven Schend's tenure as lead designer there were plans for a further Arcane Age product: "Telantiwar: Land of the Drow". It never really got off the ground but some of the material got expanded and folded into LOI, DDGttU and Wyrmskull Throne.

This is the first I ever heard of such a product. With the Underdark theme coming this summer and the possibility of the Realms exploring different eras, do you think we would ever see a product created like Telantiwar? I'd imagine the designers could pack a ton of lore about the dwarves of the Great Rift in there also.
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I would like to hear more of this as well.

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