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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 10 Nov 2008 :  01:24:57  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Excellent solution.

I can see them now, and I'll look them over and get back to you.

Edit:
Hows this for a cover?



Sweet!

But you need to put your name on there too man...several of the ideas in this book are from you!



My name should be on there, too. Just because.





Wanna help with my next project:

The Barbarians of the Ride



I'm going to take more time with this one...won't be starting it until after Christmas...I have a long break from school.

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I've always had a slight fascination with the Barbarians of the Ride. If you're looking for a little extra assistance at some point Dalor, I wouldn't mind helping out.

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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 10 Nov 2008 :  02:15:58  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by The Sage

I've always had a slight fascination with the Barbarians of the Ride. If you're looking for a little extra assistance at some point Dalor, I wouldn't mind helping out.




Excellent!

I really feel that this is the route to future "products" for the FR campaign world. You guys have the awesome Candlekeep Compendium and then just folks like me with some time on their hands can also contribute to fleshing out Faerun.

Ixinos was going to be finished this week; but we ran into a little bit of a snag...should be out next week.

Markustay gave me some really good ideas just by dropping names on me and some good backstory to "chunk" it up a bit. Not even to mention his map off of my pitiful little scribble of a map! Then the cover looks awesome too!

I've finished the materials to be included...he has the first part now that he is going over just to make sure we are not contradicting ourselves at any point...then I'll send him the last half of the material. THEN we put it together in PDF and I'll be making it available.

Would it be possible to place it here?

The only thing I'm working on right now is proper legal wording to ensure usage of various things doesn't step on any toes and I don't get kicked in the nethers for just trying to put out something free!

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Originally posted by Dalor Darden

Would it be possible to place it here?
When it's done, it'll probably be best for you to send it directly to Alaundo. That way, he can include it in the next site update.

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Markustay
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As part of your 'Ride' project, I can offer you some geneology stuff - they are related to the Netherease and the Tunlanders, and all three groups were part of the earlier Gur migrations from the East.

Since none of them look like Tuigan, its pretty obvious to me that the remaining tribe of Gur in the Hordelands are in fact a Raumathari derivation, rather then a Lung one, which makes all of those groups also related to the Nar, Rashemi, & Sossrim.

But that break-down took somewhere around 10,000 years to happen, so there's boatloads of history to be filled-in there. I asssume the early Gur migrations were caused themselves by the migration of the Taan-Lung (Tuigan) into the Hordelands around -8,900 DR.

I have some hombrew history regarding why the Tuigan first came west, but thats another region entirely (two, actually), and doesn't really bear on the Raumathar that were driven east from their ancient tribal lands around Yal Tengri and the Plain of Horses.

Ergo all Gur/Raumathari derivations are stocky, dark-features people, unlike the the indegenous peoples of Faerūn, like the Dathites (Chondathan/Jaamdathan/Talfiric) and Illuskans, who are much fairer. Think 'Conan', not Norseman, and you've got it pretty close.

Also, there's already a pretty good article on the Nar hosted here at CK already - you may want to check that out first. I personally always try to make my own homebrew stuff shoe-horn into whatever other scribes have done before, rather then contridict past CK contributers.

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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 16 Nov 2008 :  06:15:37  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If anyone is waiting for this to be available for download, fret not. It is actually finished, just going through some editing and re-organizing so that it is a "better" book.

Should be soon...

I hope...

EDIT: Well...I'll be moving on to finish this, was waiting on something; but I need to get it done before finals get here and I'm too swamped to finish up.

I'll be finalizing the PDF in a day or two and handing it over to the Masters here at CK to post if they wish.

Sorry for the waiting...

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Edited by - Dalor Darden on 20 Nov 2008 19:26:49
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Posted - 20 Dec 2008 :  09:09:26  Show Profile  Visit Mouse's Homepage Send Mouse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This stuff is brilliant. My DM needed a "savage woman pirate" NPC pseudo-antagonist to introduce into our campaign, and I just dropped him a line on to this thread and he snatched up he ideas. Keep up the good work guys! There's lots of unused parts of Faerun that totally need more love!

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Markustay
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Posted - 20 Dec 2008 :  14:49:48  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes... the Realms could have gone on indefinately with all the nooks and crannies that needed filling...

Le sigh.

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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 20 Dec 2008 :  18:14:39  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Very true...

And I SWEAR this thing is pretty much done...I just keep finding something else I want to "change just a little...just so it is the best it can be" sort of thing.

That is why it is good to have deadlines...but since I have nobody to MAKE me finish it...

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Markustay
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Posted - 20 Dec 2008 :  19:15:22  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I, of all people, understand completely. I never finish anything, because I'm afraid I'll come up with something better tomorrow.

Which I usually do, but then the whole cycle repeats...

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Ardashir
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Posted - 09 Feb 2009 :  16:34:06  Show Profile  Visit Ardashir's Homepage Send Ardashir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Which brings me to an intersting point - are Ixinosan women of mixed race? I'm not talking about Elves or Dwarves here (although that WOULD be rather interesting), but with Turmish so damn close it makes sense if there are 'women of color' upon Ixinos.

In fact, with the Kara-Turan immigrants in the Unapproachable East and Shou ties to Elversult nearby , I would expect to find a least a couple of Oriental women among the population as well. Every culture has it's share of disaffected women, so there's no reason why we wouldn't find a few of each here.



I don't see why you wouldn't find women of all (Realmsian) races upon Ixinos. It makes sense to me.
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AlorinDawn
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  20:33:35  Show Profile  Visit AlorinDawn's Homepage  Click to see AlorinDawn's MSN Messenger address Send AlorinDawn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is really good stuff. I have VERY much enjoyed reading it and hope to be able to use it in play sometime soon.

The only hole I can see has already been pointed out in the fact all these "super soldiers" are so well trained because they are always fighting who? They need a more constant threat or enemy who engages them on a more regular basis and keeps their edges so keen. Since they are so insular perhaps a extra-planar enemy who raids them for slaves through gate that is always guarded and has not been able to be destroyed? Could be the reason the dragon was here all along.... Perhaps she was not bent to the will of the queen, but played along to train a new guardian force to keep these extra-planar foes at bay?

In addition if you like this tangent, the foes might only come every X number of years or decades and is one of the its of information passed down from queen to queen as to who and what these foes really are as well as counsel from the dragon. It could also explain some of the old ruins on the island.

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Edited by - AlorinDawn on 10 Feb 2009 20:46:37
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Ardashir
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Posted - 11 Feb 2009 :  18:46:47  Show Profile  Visit Ardashir's Homepage Send Ardashir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by AlorinDawn

This is really good stuff. I have VERY much enjoyed reading it and hope to be able to use it in play sometime soon.

The only hole I can see has already been pointed out in the fact all these "super soldiers" are so well trained because they are always fighting who? They need a more constant threat or enemy who engages them on a more regular basis and keeps their edges so keen.

In addition if you like this tangent, the foes might only come every X number of years or decades and is one of the its of information passed down from queen to queen as to who and what these foes really are as well as counsel from the dragon. It could also explain some of the old ruins on the island.



I figured that the Ixinos Amazons usually fought the Fallen Stars pirates and various expeditions from the Chessentan city-states.

Hmm, now for some reason I'm wondering, if the Thayans used all female wizards in positions of authority, might they have a trade enclave on Ixinos?
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Markustay
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So long as the enclave was female-only, I don't personally see why it wouldn't be possible.

Considering their limited involvement with other Realmish powers, they wouldn't automatically be predjudiced against the Thayans, as most others would.

Of course, in Testosterone-centric 4eFR, Ixinos probably no longer exists...

My guess is that Kewl Spartans took the place over, after they finished with Xerxes.

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Edited by - Markustay on 12 Feb 2009 01:08:43
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Dalor Darden
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Well, I've obviously been away for a while.

I fell pretty ill a few months back; and well, Ixinos fell by the wayside.

Things are going more smoothly for me now...so I will be finishing things up for Ixinos now.

My apologies to Markustay for dropping off the face of the earth; but fantasy worlds and internet connections just fell to the wayside for a while.


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The Sage
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We're glad to hear all is well again, Dalor, and look forward to your renewed efforts with regard to Ixinos.

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Dalor Darden
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Well, it is done.

Final Draft will be going over to Markustay this weekend for review after I convert the document to a PDF.

All told it is roughly 48 pages from cover to end...with two large pics taking up a page each and a table of contents...the book has actually 45 pages of gaming material...including Markustay's AMAZING map.

I had a great deal more to include in the work, like magic items, NPCs galore, and etc; but I thought it would be better to lay out the basics (which are still very detailed at 45 pages!) and let each Dungeon Master tailor the setting to his own needs.

Instead of players saying: "What?! My 19th level wizard should have been able to SMOKE the Queen of Ixinos in spell battle! Where the heck did she get the spells to do what she just did to me?!"

Instead each DM can make the island how he wants it to fit in with whatever level of play he wants.

A couple of hints:

I liked the idea of planar invaders, but thought that actual invasions would be too much to counter and still maintain strength against other external attacks like the Pirates and such. Instead I put something in the mix that gives the Ixinosan women a few things to bother them.

I also knew they needed constant fighting, so there is plenty of that. Lots and lots of it actually.

However, despite these two things, the Ixinosans would be nasty to fight even if all they ever did was train. Their training is probably more harsh than anything I've read in the Forgotten Realms so far...and far more extensive too. To the Ixinosans being a warrior is actually a strong part of their religion and is "natural" to them like farming is to the Dales.

The Red Wizard issue intrigued me, so it is there too...after a fashion. The Ixinosans benefit from trade with the Red Wizards; but not exactly the way that the Red Wizards might want.

I really liked the linking of female ship captains to the Ixinosans; but the more I looked the less I found to connect them in Canon material. I did include a vague reference to many female sailors being descended from Ixinos though...so feel free to have any captain you want being from Ixinos or their mother or what have you.

Other highlights include a Myrmidon Prestige Class, a Timeline, a detailed outline of the way the Ixinosan women are trained for the military, detailed descriptions of every single name you find on Markustay's map, and much more.

I hope you all like it.

Talk to you soon.

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Neat.
quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

The Red Wizard issue intrigued me, so it is there too...after a fashion. The Ixinosans benefit from trade with the Red Wizards; but not exactly the way that the Red Wizards might want.
I'm looking forward to this part in particular. I've had my own ideas on trade and economic relations between Ixinos and the Red Wizards since you first brought this up. So I'd like to see what you've come up with for it.

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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 15 Sep 2009 :  18:37:49  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just waiting to hear from some folks on this...it IS done.

Actually been done for a while...but life happens.

It is about 45 pages total (counting cover, map and a pic).

I forgot to mention that Markustay also did the cover in the credits...for that I apologize.

If it wasn't for him, this project would have been far more mediocre; so many thanks and congratulations to Mark!

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Excellent. Expect my PM shortly, Dalor.

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Just a small request to the Powers That Be:

could you post something on here with the link when you decide to put out the write-up for Ixinos?

Thanks!

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Yes, I can do that.

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Sorry to hear about your health problems, Dalor; hope all is well now. I've had my share of those in the past.

If I haven't said so before, this is awesome stuff... first-rate.

So... where's this complete PDF? Not to sound impatient or anything like a certain former halfling, but "I wantss it!"

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.

Edited by - Jakk on 08 Nov 2009 19:28:12
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quote:
Originally posted by Jakk

So... where's this complete PDF? Not to sound impatient or anything like a certain former halfling, but "I wantss it!"
Just waiting on Alaundo, actually, to reply back to my requests. But he's kinda busy with non-Candlekeep stuff at the moment.

Once that's done, Dalor's PDF will be uploaded to Alaundo's Library here at Candlekeep.

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Sounds good... I hope Alaundo's non-CK stuff isn't too serious.

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.
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