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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore
USA
1537 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2008 : 19:13:01
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Poll Question:
For thousands of years the history of Faerun has been shaped by the ancient Crown Wars of the Elves. Would you buy a multi-volume novel series of the history of the Crown Wars?
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Edited by - Jamallo Kreen on 19 Oct 2008 19:15:01
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Arion Elenim
Senior Scribe
933 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2008 : 19:44:01
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I would purchase a series on the Crown Wars in either hard or paper back....and I think it would sell like hotcakes either way. |
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Lady Fellshot
Senior Scribe
USA
379 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2008 : 19:53:09
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I'd buy the whole shebang in hardbound, whether. I learned my lesson from looking at the wear and tear on my WotSQ books. The only one that doesn't have huge creases and dogears is the last one :P
On the other hand I'd really like to write it myself, so... :/
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GRYPHON
Senior Scribe
USA
527 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2008 : 20:25:43
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Yes...In any form. |
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Ayunken-vanzan
Senior Scribe
Germany
657 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2008 : 20:31:12
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Yes, of course. |
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1796 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2008 : 22:03:45
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A few months, heck, even a few weeks ago I would have said "Yes, provided Elaine Cunningham has a hand in it," but now, it's a big "No: I'm done with WotC and the Realms." |
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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore
USA
1537 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2008 : 22:09:31
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To be honest, I didn't include "any format" because I didn't want to encourage Hasbro to spread publication of these out for years and years if they ever had the sense to do it. (I'm still waiting for the last Erevis Cale book, which was supposed to be released in March 2008!) In a dual format the hardback will be released with a two to four month delay (at least) for the paperback; Hasbro is too slow for my taste already -- I want to know the format first and then plunk down my money for it. I already have several "sets" of books which are a mish-mash of formats and editions; I'd like a bit of consistency for a Crown Wars series.
If there is to ever be an FR movie, the Crown Wars are a good choice for a setting, in my opinion. If nothing else, when Realms.New.Coke collapses, Hasbro can fall back on the old "Arcane Age" concept and release FR materials for the Crown Wars (or the struggle for Athalantar or Shanatar or whatever) which have settings and characters who are recognizable to fans and which require no tampering with long-extant Realmslore -- Mongoose did just that with Glorantha: they went back to the Second Age and left all Third Age lore intact and undefiled.
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hawkytom
Seeker
USA
82 Posts |
Posted - 20 Oct 2008 : 00:13:36
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If there is a FR book and it's in either paperback or hardback, I'll be buying it. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 20 Oct 2008 : 00:42:00
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I'd buy it, but the hardback/paperback question depends on the author. Elaine? Hardback. Just about anyone else? Paperback. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 20 Oct 2008 : 01:48:20
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I'd buy it, but the hardback/paperback question depends on the author. Elaine? Hardback. Just about anyone else? Paperback.
Ditto!
Only I'd add Ed and/or Steven as well. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 20 Oct 2008 : 02:57:25
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quote: Originally posted by Arion Elenim
I would purchase a series on the Crown Wars in either hard or paper back...
Same here. I prefer paperback, so I checked that one. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams." --Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1073 Posts |
Posted - 20 Oct 2008 : 08:46:35
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Set in the crown wars? I'd jump over it like it was Megan Fox.
(Not that I would REALLY jump over her. I'm on the wrong continent for starters, and I'm not interested in going to prison) |
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Edited by - khorne on 20 Oct 2008 08:47:30 |
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Pandora
Learned Scribe
Germany
305 Posts |
Posted - 20 Oct 2008 : 14:40:08
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quote: Originally posted by Lady Fellshot
I'd buy the whole shebang in hardbound, whether. I learned my lesson from looking at the wear and tear on my WotSQ books. The only one that doesn't have huge creases and dogears is the last one :P
Isnt that part of the appeal of those books? Every bit wear and tear shown on them is a sign of love for the books.
quote: Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen If there is to ever be an FR movie, the Crown Wars are a good choice for a setting, in my opinion.
I would disagree with you there. The Crown Wars is probably good only for a flashy and big-budgeted film. After the first few stupid examples we finally have some really good ones (The Gamers and The Gamers: Dorkness Rising). Those arent about big budget and colossal graphic effects, but rather about a good story. I firmly agree with one of the film makers there that a low budget is a blessing, because it forces creativity. You cant really make a war movie with huge battles on a low budget and have it look good. A much better story / book would be Elfshadow, because it has an intriguing detective story, loads of romance, humor and good fighting scenes.
That said I would certainly love novels about ancient times, because they can explain things and add more mysterious tidbits. There are quite a few "named" magic items (even if they arent really powerful) in the 3rd edition Forgotten Realms books and including their stories might give an added depth. Buying such books would require an author I trust though and since the Crown Wars is about elves the choice is limited. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 20 Oct 2008 : 14:41:03
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quote: Originally posted by khorne
Set in the crown wars? I'd jump over it like it was Megan Fox.
(Not that I would REALLY jump over her. I'm on the wrong continent for starters, and I'm not interested in going to prison)
She's of legal age. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 20 Oct 2008 : 15:37:35
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You darn right I would, no matter what format it first comes out in. |
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Lady Fellshot
Senior Scribe
USA
379 Posts |
Posted - 20 Oct 2008 : 15:52:05
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quote: Originally posted by Pandora
quote: Originally posted by Lady Fellshot
I'd buy the whole shebang in hardbound, whether. I learned my lesson from looking at the wear and tear on my WotSQ books. The only one that doesn't have huge creases and dogears is the last one :P
Isnt that part of the appeal of those books? Every bit wear and tear shown on them is a sign of love for the books.
It just means they might look more like my battered, abused, missing their jackets hardcover copies of the Hobbit, the Simarillion and the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy
Back to topic, I'd also ask that EC write at least some of it |
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Kamuraki
Seeker
USA
78 Posts |
Posted - 24 Oct 2008 : 20:57:45
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Umm... I suppose I'd buy it. Elves are beginning to grate on my nerves lately though. WE GET IT! You're hot, live long, get laid a lot, and all sun elves think every other race is inferior, frequently resulting in them acting as evil as any drow. |
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Afetbinttuzani
Senior Scribe
Canada
434 Posts |
Posted - 24 Oct 2008 : 22:47:41
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quote: Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
A few months, heck, even a few weeks ago I would have said "Yes, provided Elaine Cunningham has a hand in it," but now, it's a big "No: I'm done with WotC and the Realms."
Come on PDK, don't throw out the baby with the bath water. A novel or series of novels about the Crown Wars written by Elaine would be a great way to vote with your cash for the pre-Spellplague Realms. |
Afet bint Tuzanķ
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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore
USA
1537 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2008 : 02:25:12
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quote: Originally posted by Kamuraki
Umm... I suppose I'd buy it. Elves are beginning to grate on my nerves lately though. WE GET IT! You're hot, live long, get laid a lot, and all sun elves think every other race is inferior, frequently resulting in them acting as evil as any drow.
That's what I like about the Crown Wars: the sun elves started them and "everyone" knows that they were at fault. So who was punished? The drow, who resisted the brutal imperialism of the sun elves - nothing feeds one's ego quite like a divine endorsement to punish the victims of your crimes! (Nasty elvsesess ... we hates' em, don't we, Precious?)
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I have a mouth, but I am in a library and must not scream.
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6641 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2008 : 02:57:52
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Yes, but I'd enjoy it more if it was an Ed/Steven joint effort. What an awesome thought ...
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
3736 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2008 : 21:34:09
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-I would not want such a novel published, because I am of the opinion that such ancient history should largely stay in "mythical" territory. In my own work, I largely skirt creating and/or elaborating on major details in the Crown Wars, such as specific battles, or specific individuals, or whatever else, because, in doing so, the mythical status of said events are lessened, to a degree. |
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Magister Sunstrider
Acolyte
USA
12 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2008 : 01:38:39
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Before the disaster of 4E, I would have bought them sight-unseen regardless of who wrote them. Given what has happened with 4E and the Forgotten Realms, I would now wait for more information/reviews before considering where or not to be spending any money on this product. WotC has damaged themselves so severely in my eyes, I can't think of another reasonable response to their disregard for the Realms. |
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1796 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2008 : 01:48:39
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quote: Originally posted by Afetbinttuzani
quote: Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
A few months, heck, even a few weeks ago I would have said "Yes, provided Elaine Cunningham has a hand in it," but now, it's a big "No: I'm done with WotC and the Realms."
Come on PDK, don't throw out the baby with the bath water. A novel or series of novels about the Crown Wars written by Elaine would be a great way to vote with your cash for the pre-Spellplague Realms.
The baby has been thrown already... and far!
The discussion is moot anyways because A) I'm done with the Realms, unless WotC loses them back to Ed; and B) I don't think Elaine is going to write for the Realms ever again.
Cheers! |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2008 : 02:41:58
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quote: Originally posted by Afetbinttuzani
Come on PDK, don't throw out the baby with the bath water. A novel or series of novels about the Crown Wars written by Elaine would be a great way to vote with your cash for the pre-Spellplague Realms.
Agreed, but that particular scenario seems unlikely to happen anyway. :-/ |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams." --Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 26 Oct 2008 02:42:13 |
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BARDOBARBAROS
Senior Scribe
Greece
581 Posts |
Posted - 27 Oct 2008 : 09:24:55
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Yes, but only in hardback. |
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Edited by - BARDOBARBAROS on 27 Oct 2008 09:25:42 |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1073 Posts |
Posted - 27 Oct 2008 : 15:49:29
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quote: Originally posted by George Krashos
Yes, but I'd enjoy it more if it was an Ed/Steven joint effort. What an awesome thought ...
-- George Krashos
"Faints from fan-gasm at the mere possibility". |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
2104 Posts |
Posted - 27 Oct 2008 : 17:02:33
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No. The Crown Wars doesn't interest me. (I want my own button to press in the poll!! ) |
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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore
USA
1537 Posts |
Posted - 28 Oct 2008 : 19:15:49
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Sorry, mate, but it's too late to add another button. However, because I am running the poll and Hasbro is not, I acknowledge your request instead of ignoring it and then asking six months from now if you have a suggestion for a new button!
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Elestar
Acolyte
Hungary
27 Posts |
Posted - 16 Nov 2008 : 16:44:50
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quote: Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen
quote: Originally posted by Kamuraki
Umm... I suppose I'd buy it. Elves are beginning to grate on my nerves lately though. WE GET IT! You're hot, live long, get laid a lot, and all sun elves think every other race is inferior, frequently resulting in them acting as evil as any drow.
That's what I like about the Crown Wars: the sun elves started them and "everyone" knows that they were at fault. So who was punished? The drow, who resisted the brutal imperialism of the sun elves - nothing feeds one's ego quite like a divine endorsement to punish the victims of your crimes! (Nasty elvsesess ... we hates' em, don't we, Precious?)
Sun elves started, thats true. But the reply of the dark elves was even more dreadful. But I think just as many of the illithiri were innocent, not all sun elves were vyshaan-sympathizers.
I would purchase a series on the Crown Wars in either format.
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 16 Nov 2008 : 17:05:19
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I would buy ANY FR novel/series set before 1386 DR. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3285 Posts |
Posted - 16 Nov 2008 : 21:31:50
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-I voted Hard Cover. Now if the poll would have had a both option Soft/Hard Cover I would have voted for that. Yeah a Series set in the Crown War would be nice, until someone starts nitpicking it about the lore. And we know it would happen. Now who would we want writing said series?
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