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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 19 Oct 2008 :  19:13:01  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Poll Question:
For thousands of years the history of Faerun has been shaped by the ancient Crown Wars of the Elves. Would you buy a multi-volume novel series of the history of the Crown Wars?



Choices:

Yes, but only in hardback.
Yes, but only in paperback.
No, the elves don''t interest me.
No, I have stopped buying Wizards of the Coast products.

(Anonymous Vote)

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I would purchase a series on the Crown Wars in either hard or paper back....and I think it would sell like hotcakes either way.

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Lady Fellshot
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I'd buy the whole shebang in hardbound, whether. I learned my lesson from looking at the wear and tear on my WotSQ books. The only one that doesn't have huge creases and dogears is the last one :P

On the other hand I'd really like to write it myself, so... :/

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GRYPHON
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Yes...In any form.
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Ayunken-vanzan
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Yes, of course.

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Purple Dragon Knight
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A few months, heck, even a few weeks ago I would have said "Yes, provided Elaine Cunningham has a hand in it," but now, it's a big "No: I'm done with WotC and the Realms."
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Jamallo Kreen
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To be honest, I didn't include "any format" because I didn't want to encourage Hasbro to spread publication of these out for years and years if they ever had the sense to do it. (I'm still waiting for the last Erevis Cale book, which was supposed to be released in March 2008!) In a dual format the hardback will be released with a two to four month delay (at least) for the paperback; Hasbro is too slow for my taste already -- I want to know the format first and then plunk down my money for it. I already have several "sets" of books which are a mish-mash of formats and editions; I'd like a bit of consistency for a Crown Wars series.

If there is to ever be an FR movie, the Crown Wars are a good choice for a setting, in my opinion. If nothing else, when Realms.New.Coke collapses, Hasbro can fall back on the old "Arcane Age" concept and release FR materials for the Crown Wars (or the struggle for Athalantar or Shanatar or whatever) which have settings and characters who are recognizable to fans and which require no tampering with long-extant Realmslore -- Mongoose did just that with Glorantha: they went back to the Second Age and left all Third Age lore intact and undefiled.











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If there is a FR book and it's in either paperback or hardback, I'll be buying it.

Any Lone Wolf fans? Old school gamebooks from the 80's? They are being re-released/updated, and new books 29-32 being written: http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/novels/lonewolfsolo.html

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I'd buy it, but the hardback/paperback question depends on the author. Elaine? Hardback. Just about anyone else? Paperback.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I'd buy it, but the hardback/paperback question depends on the author. Elaine? Hardback. Just about anyone else? Paperback.

Ditto!

Only I'd add Ed and/or Steven as well.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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quote:
Originally posted by Arion Elenim

I would purchase a series on the Crown Wars in either hard or paper back...


Same here. I prefer paperback, so I checked that one.

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khorne
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Set in the crown wars? I'd jump over it like it was Megan Fox.

(Not that I would REALLY jump over her. I'm on the wrong continent for starters, and I'm not interested in going to prison)

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Pandora
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quote:
Originally posted by Lady Fellshot

I'd buy the whole shebang in hardbound, whether. I learned my lesson from looking at the wear and tear on my WotSQ books. The only one that doesn't have huge creases and dogears is the last one :P

Isnt that part of the appeal of those books? Every bit wear and tear shown on them is a sign of love for the books.

quote:
Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen
If there is to ever be an FR movie, the Crown Wars are a good choice for a setting, in my opinion.

I would disagree with you there. The Crown Wars is probably good only for a flashy and big-budgeted film. After the first few stupid examples we finally have some really good ones (The Gamers and The Gamers: Dorkness Rising). Those arent about big budget and colossal graphic effects, but rather about a good story. I firmly agree with one of the film makers there that a low budget is a blessing, because it forces creativity. You cant really make a war movie with huge battles on a low budget and have it look good. A much better story / book would be Elfshadow, because it has an intriguing detective story, loads of romance, humor and good fighting scenes.

That said I would certainly love novels about ancient times, because they can explain things and add more mysterious tidbits. There are quite a few "named" magic items (even if they arent really powerful) in the 3rd edition Forgotten Realms books and including their stories might give an added depth. Buying such books would require an author I trust though and since the Crown Wars is about elves the choice is limited.

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Edited by - Pandora on 20 Oct 2008 14:42:19
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by khorne

Set in the crown wars? I'd jump over it like it was Megan Fox.

(Not that I would REALLY jump over her. I'm on the wrong continent for starters, and I'm not interested in going to prison)



She's of legal age.

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You darn right I would, no matter what format it first comes out in.

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Lady Fellshot
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quote:
Originally posted by Pandora

quote:
Originally posted by Lady Fellshot

I'd buy the whole shebang in hardbound, whether. I learned my lesson from looking at the wear and tear on my WotSQ books. The only one that doesn't have huge creases and dogears is the last one :P

Isnt that part of the appeal of those books? Every bit wear and tear shown on them is a sign of love for the books.



It just means they might look more like my battered, abused, missing their jackets hardcover copies of the Hobbit, the Simarillion and the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy

Back to topic, I'd also ask that EC write at least some of it

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Umm... I suppose I'd buy it. Elves are beginning to grate on my nerves lately though. WE GET IT! You're hot, live long, get laid a lot, and all sun elves think every other race is inferior, frequently resulting in them acting as evil as any drow.

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quote:
Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight

A few months, heck, even a few weeks ago I would have said "Yes, provided Elaine Cunningham has a hand in it," but now, it's a big "No: I'm done with WotC and the Realms."


Come on PDK, don't throw out the baby with the bath water. A novel or series of novels about the Crown Wars written by Elaine would be a great way to vote with your cash for the pre-Spellplague Realms.

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Jamallo Kreen
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quote:
Originally posted by Kamuraki

Umm... I suppose I'd buy it. Elves are beginning to grate on my nerves lately though. WE GET IT! You're hot, live long, get laid a lot, and all sun elves think every other race is inferior, frequently resulting in them acting as evil as any drow.


That's what I like about the Crown Wars: the sun elves started them and "everyone" knows that they were at fault. So who was punished? The drow, who resisted the brutal imperialism of the sun elves - nothing feeds one's ego quite like a divine endorsement to punish the victims of your crimes! (Nasty elvsesess ... we hates' em, don't we, Precious?)





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George Krashos
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Yes, but I'd enjoy it more if it was an Ed/Steven joint effort. What an awesome thought ...

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-I would not want such a novel published, because I am of the opinion that such ancient history should largely stay in "mythical" territory. In my own work, I largely skirt creating and/or elaborating on major details in the Crown Wars, such as specific battles, or specific individuals, or whatever else, because, in doing so, the mythical status of said events are lessened, to a degree.

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Before the disaster of 4E, I would have bought them sight-unseen regardless of who wrote them. Given what has happened with 4E and the Forgotten Realms, I would now wait for more information/reviews before considering where or not to be spending any money on this product. WotC has damaged themselves so severely in my eyes, I can't think of another reasonable response to their disregard for the Realms.
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quote:
Originally posted by Afetbinttuzani

quote:
Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight

A few months, heck, even a few weeks ago I would have said "Yes, provided Elaine Cunningham has a hand in it," but now, it's a big "No: I'm done with WotC and the Realms."


Come on PDK, don't throw out the baby with the bath water. A novel or series of novels about the Crown Wars written by Elaine would be a great way to vote with your cash for the pre-Spellplague Realms.

The baby has been thrown already... and far!

The discussion is moot anyways because A) I'm done with the Realms, unless WotC loses them back to Ed; and B) I don't think Elaine is going to write for the Realms ever again.

Cheers!
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quote:
Originally posted by Afetbinttuzani

Come on PDK, don't throw out the baby with the bath water. A novel or series of novels about the Crown Wars written by Elaine would be a great way to vote with your cash for the pre-Spellplague Realms.



Agreed, but that particular scenario seems unlikely to happen anyway. :-/

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Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 26 Oct 2008 02:42:13
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Yes, but only in hardback.

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HE DECAPITATES!!!


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Edited by - BARDOBARBAROS on 27 Oct 2008 09:25:42
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quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Yes, but I'd enjoy it more if it was an Ed/Steven joint effort. What an awesome thought ...

-- George Krashos


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