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althen artren
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Posted - 23 Jan 2012 :  21:56:31  Show Profile Send althen artren a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well the next time I will run will be around
1375-1376 and I don't know enough about stuff.
For example, what did the various elven clans
due for their revenue? Where were the mines in Cormanthor?
Where are the trade goods taken into Myth Drannor
coming from? Wait, break is over, I'll come back later.
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Eilserus
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  00:24:07  Show Profile Send Eilserus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No worries. Thank you for all your responses, I appreciate it. :)
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althen artren
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  21:18:16  Show Profile Send althen artren a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Elven clan politics, who were who allies and
such. I'm repopulating Myth Drannor and am
just having trouble.
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Garen Thal
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  21:33:24  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Althen, let me look at my sources and see if I can cook anything up (no promises, though). For now, keep in mind that Myth Drannor, in 1375/1376, is populated more by houses from Evereska and other smaller, nearby settlements. Some elves likely returned from places like the Hullack in Cormyr and deeper portions of Cormanthor, but it's a bit too soon to see the return of any surviving great houses from old Cormanthor.
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Jakk
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  22:59:17  Show Profile Send Jakk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Garen Thal

I'm going to beg off on the "what's happening now" question, in part because I don't want to step on the official answers. [emphasis added]

As for the connection to the Underdark: it's certainly possible. Definitely, there are caverns beneath Tilverton, but whether they connect to the greater Underdark--and do so in a manner that allows for two-way travel--is a matter for individual DMs and campaigns to develop. At least, for now it is.



Hmm... does this mean that there are official answers waiting to appear (in a future DDI article, perhaps)?

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.

Edited by - Jakk on 24 Jan 2012 23:00:18
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Garen Thal
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  23:24:49  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jakk

quote:
Originally posted by Garen Thal

I'm going to beg off on the "what's happening now" question, in part because I don't want to step on the official answers. [emphasis added]

As for the connection to the Underdark: it's certainly possible. Definitely, there are caverns beneath Tilverton, but whether they connect to the greater Underdark--and do so in a manner that allows for two-way travel--is a matter for individual DMs and campaigns to develop. At least, for now it is.



Hmm... does this mean that there are official answers waiting to appear (in a future DDI article, perhaps)?

Nope.
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Jakk
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Posted - 25 Jan 2012 :  01:56:00  Show Profile Send Jakk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Garen Thal

<chop>
Nope.


Well, at least you didn't say "NDA"...

And this pretty much puts to rest my curiosity about the canon state of this particular region; in my Realms, Tilverton is still around... just not where it was.

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.
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Brimstone
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Posted - 25 Jan 2012 :  03:03:05  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jakk

quote:
Originally posted by Garen Thal

<chop>
Nope.


Well, at least you didn't say "NDA"...

And this pretty much puts to rest my curiosity about the canon state of this particular region; in my Realms, Tilverton is still around... just not where it was.


So we might learn the answer in Oct, hey?

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep
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Jakk
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Posted - 04 Feb 2012 :  02:38:07  Show Profile Send Jakk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Garen Thal

The Crown closed access to the Halls because there were reports that the Halls--all levels and known passages--were completely cleared by an adventuring company. That company then was killed (on an unrelated adventure), and at least a dozen different adventuring bands were killed in the mad dash to try and claim the Halls by some unknown and unnamed threat inside the Halls.

As for the what (or who), and whether that danger still lurks within the Haunted Halls, well, that's not for me to say just now.



Hrm... Can you say anything about who can say something about this, and approximately when? Yes, Jakk's on another fishing expedition on Lake NDA...

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.
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Garen Thal
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Posted - 04 Feb 2012 :  03:12:57  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jakk

quote:
Originally posted by Garen Thal

The Crown closed access to the Halls because there were reports that the Halls--all levels and known passages--were completely cleared by an adventuring company. That company then was killed (on an unrelated adventure), and at least a dozen different adventuring bands were killed in the mad dash to try and claim the Halls by some unknown and unnamed threat inside the Halls.

As for the what (or who), and whether that danger still lurks within the Haunted Halls, well, that's not for me to say just now.



Hrm... Can you say anything about who can say something about this, and approximately when? Yes, Jakk's on another fishing expedition on Lake NDA...
Not one word.

Frankly, I have my own ideas as to why it was closed (after all, from a design standpoint, I was the one that closed it), but I'm avoiding giving a definitive answer at the moment precisely because I don't want to box any future authors (game or fiction--even if it's myself) into any corners. The timeline events are designed specifically to be bare bones, unfleshed items, to allow for DMs and campaigns to build on them if they choose, or for others to build on in future Cormyr or Haunted Halls writing.
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Jakk
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Posted - 04 Feb 2012 :  04:13:20  Show Profile Send Jakk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, as you probably already know, I'd dearly love to hear your thoughts, but I completely understand your reasons for not revealing them; I've been there and done that enough times in these halls to know better, but it won't ever stop me from asking the first question. The second and subsequent questions, I'm (slowly) learning to leave alone.

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.
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Jakk
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Posted - 01 Mar 2012 :  06:35:36  Show Profile Send Jakk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Another quick question regarding the Cormyr Lineage (and please don't run screaming from your computer at the sight of that phrase). I would just like to suggest that you mention to the powers-that-be at WotC that Ed would be far more productive were this lineage made public, because he wouldn't have so many questions (that he can't give answers to) lobbed his way. Therefore, it's in WotC's best interests to publish the Lineage, preferably as a stand-alone document rather than articles in DDI... but I'm still willing to sign up to DDI in order to be able to download it, because the document is worth its hardcopy weight in gold to me. Just saying...

And yes, I took the time to mention to WotC (when I bought my one-month membership for Cormyr Month) that the Lineage was something I really wanted to see released. Hopefully other interested scribes did the same.

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.
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The Red Walker
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Posted - 20 Aug 2012 :  00:36:18  Show Profile  Send The Red Walker a Yahoo! Message Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Brian , thanks for all of did to help make the Candlekeep seminar go so well.......and that giveaway....that had your fingerprints all over it. Very sweet! It's already in the safe, until I can think of the right place for it.

A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -

John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Garen Thal
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Posted - 21 Aug 2012 :  04:54:30  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

Brian , thanks for all of did to help make the Candlekeep seminar go so well.......and that giveaway....that had your fingerprints all over it. Very sweet! It's already in the safe, until I can think of the right place for it.
It was all my pleasure. That it happened at all was a good thing. That WotC took notice, and showed up, and listened, is a Very Good Thing. Having a giveaway was important for us as organizers, and since we can't really give away lore stuff (we're freelancers, so we'd get in heap-big trouble), a little nerd-bling never hurt anyone.
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The Red Walker
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Posted - 21 Aug 2012 :  05:39:42  Show Profile  Send The Red Walker a Yahoo! Message Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Garen Thal

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

Brian , thanks for all of did to help make the Candlekeep seminar go so well.......and that giveaway....that had your fingerprints all over it. Very sweet! It's already in the safe, until I can think of the right place for it.
It was all my pleasure. That it happened at all was a good thing. That WotC took notice, and showed up, and listened, is a Very Good Thing. Having a giveaway was important for us as organizers, and since we can't really give away lore stuff (we're freelancers, so we'd get in heap-big trouble), a little nerd-bling never hurt anyone.



As my wife often reminds me , bling is a good,thing. But like she also says, next time you gotta top that you set the bar pretty high!

But the panel was more than advertised. 4.5 hrs...whew! awesome stuff

A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -

John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Jeremy Grenemyer
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Posted - 22 Aug 2012 :  16:55:24  Show Profile Send Jeremy Grenemyer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello Brian,

I have a couple of questions about pre-Cormyr I hope you can answer:

1) Assuming dwarves were active in the Thunder Peaks and Stormhorns during Thauglamorious’ reign, did this great dragon ever concern itself with gathering tribute from the dwarves? Particularly if they gathered resources from the surface world under which they lived?

2) Did Thaug’s territorial claim extend beyond the forested land cradled by the mountain ranges to include the mountains themselves?

3) Were there any heroic dwarves who challenged Thaug as Illiphar did, but failed? If yes, can you talk about the terms the dragon might have made with the defeated dwarves, and whether Cormyr has knowingly (or unknowingly) inherited the rights to those terms?

Thanks very much for your time.


P.S: To any WotC staff who happen to read this: Please ask Brian Cortijo to write a novel set in Cormyr!

Look for me and my content at EN World (user name: sanishiver).

Edited by - Jeremy Grenemyer on 22 Aug 2012 18:04:51
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Garen Thal
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Posted - 22 Aug 2012 :  17:49:01  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jeremy Grenemyer

Hello Brian,

I have a couple of questions about pre-Cormyr I hope you can answer:
Hi! I'll do my best.
quote:
1) Assuming dwarves were active in the Thunder Peaks and Stormhorns during Thauglamorious’ reign, did this great dragon ever concern itself with gathering tribute from the dwarves? Particularly if they gathered resources from the surface world under which they lived?
Dwarves were somewhat active in the mountains during that era (well, relatively speaking; remember that Thauglor ruled the region for centuries), but didn't have much by way of surface activity. The foothills of the mountains of both ranges were kissed by the Hullack and Cormanthor, so occasional lumber forays were possible, but not common--most (shield) dwarf communities have long since adapted to underground living.

For his part, Thauglor was mostly unconcerned with the dwarves as long as they stayed in and inside their mountain homes. The dwarves of the Storm Horns had plenty of goblins to deal with, and served as a good buffer against the gangly little pests, so he left the bearded vermin be. Thunderholme (in the Thunder Peaks) came later, but was outside of Thauglor's area of interest, anyway.
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2) Did Thaug’s territorial claim extend beyond the forested land cradled by the mountain ranges to include the mountains themselves?
Thauglor's main concern was the low-lying land. As a black dragon, he didn't have any interest in the mountains themselves, only as using them as a sturdy fence to keep out rival dragons. He didn't roost or hoard in either range (naturally preferring the swamps), but did aggressively hunt down dragons growing in power before they became a threat to him.
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3) Were there any heroic dwarves who challenged Thaug as Illiphar did, but failed? If yes, can you talk about the terms the dragon might have made with the defeated dwarves, and whether Cormyr has knowingly (or unknowingly) inherited the rights to those terms?
There weren't. Not because the dwarves weren't brave enough to face the dragon, but because no dwarf would be stupid enough to put a single hammer or axe against the teeth, claws, wings, and muscle of a powerful dragon, whether or not he promised not to breathe out acid. Which a battle-tested dwarf wouldn't believe, anyway.

There was at least one band of brave dwarven souls who attempted to ambush and defeat the Purple Dragon, but soon found themselves captured, and then prepared, eaten, and slain. But that's a more gruesome tale than what you asked for.
quote:
Thanks very much for your time.
Not a problem. 'Tis what I do.
quote:
P.S: To any WotC staff who happen to read this: Please ask Brian Cortijo to write a novel set in Cormyr!
Can't argue with such good sense, can I?
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Jeremy Grenemyer
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Posted - 22 Aug 2012 :  18:15:46  Show Profile Send Jeremy Grenemyer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Awesome. Thank you very much for the unexpectedly swift reply.

Look for me and my content at EN World (user name: sanishiver).
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Markustay
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Posted - 22 Aug 2012 :  19:07:54  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I mentioned this in another thread, but I figured I should say it here in your thread: I very much enjoyed our lunch, and am sorry it took nearly two days to realize who you were.

Take it as a compliment - you were so 'professional' (about making sure everyone and everything kept their appointments like herding Ed to the Candlekeep meet-up) that I took you for a (con) handler. While everyone else was acting chaotic and going off on tangents, you seemed to remain focused on task (something I can't imagine any gamer doing at Gencon).

Ergo, it is because of the way you were acting - so professional through all the confusion - that made it take me so long to finally read your name tag, and I am still embarrassed by that. Like I said, I will treasure that lunch with you and the 'James Gang' for a long time to come.

Thanks --- Mark

quote:
Originally posted by Garen Thal

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

Brian , thanks for all of did to help make the Candlekeep seminar go so well.......and that giveaway....that had your fingerprints all over it. Very sweet! It's already in the safe, until I can think of the right place for it.
It was all my pleasure. That it happened at all was a good thing. That WotC took notice, and showed up, and listened, is a Very Good Thing. Having a giveaway was important for us as organizers, and since we can't really give away lore stuff (we're freelancers, so we'd get in heap-big trouble), a little nerd-bling never hurt anyone.
'Nerd Bling'

Since my first day at the con, I have picked up several new terms, and thats getting added to them. Good stuff.

I'm also still laughing at "+2 for boobs", which I have shared with many others. Having seen that phenomena several times in my gaming life, it hit home (and something WotC needs to think about moving forward). I realize you didn't say it (was that Kris the Grey's wife?), but I figure I'd mention another amusing turn-of-phrase I intend to use.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 22 Aug 2012 19:09:19
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Garen Thal
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Posted - 22 Aug 2012 :  20:25:52  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

I mentioned this in another thread, but I figured I should say it here in your thread: I very much enjoyed our lunch, and am sorry it took nearly two days to realize who you were.

Take it as a compliment - you were so 'professional' (about making sure everyone and everything kept their appointments like herding Ed to the Candlekeep meet-up) that I took you for a (con) handler. While everyone else was acting chaotic and going off on tangents, you seemed to remain focused on task (something I can't imagine any gamer doing at Gencon).

Ergo, it is because of the way you were acting - so professional through all the confusion - that made it take me so long to finally read your name tag, and I am still embarrassed by that. Like I said, I will treasure that lunch with you and the 'James Gang' for a long time to come.
I'm gratified to hear it!

There's actually a reason for my calm demeanor when the cat-herding that is GenCon comes along. I spend all of high school as part of a fairly large youth group that runs conventions and other events for its membership--obviously, they're of smaller size, but knowing where to be and when to be there and the best way to get there and who's supposed to be with you is a survival technique I've had since I was 15. The temptation to stop and drool over the latest game or toy or whatever is still there, to be sure, but I've learned to suppress it in the name of getting where I'm going. At least, for a while.

I should also confess that I make a concerted effort, well before Gen Con hits, to make sure I plan my schedule very carefully. I know what events are going on that interest me, what events interest my friends (I made at least one publisher-editor connection this weekend), and what events Ed's been scheduled for that they never even told him about (although WotC was infinitely better this year than they have been in years past at making sure Ed knew what his schedule was).

Those two elements make keeping my cool pretty easy. Honestly, though, it takes a lot out of me, and usually only lasts through Friday evening or so. By Saturday night, 'composed' is a distant memory...

Btw, I've been pushing "The Brothers Jim" instead of "James Gang," but no one seems to be going for it. I cou;d use the help!
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Markustay
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At least it sounds better then "the fabulous Baker boys' and the Ericlone Wars.

Okay... I just made that second one up... but their sure are a LOT of Eric(k)s around....

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 27 Aug 2012 :  04:56:12  Show Profile  Send The Red Walker a Yahoo! Message Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Were the organizers able to work anything out to get a Candlekeep GenCon pin to our long suffering mods?

A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -

John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963

Edited by - The Red Walker on 27 Aug 2012 04:56:58
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Garen Thal
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Posted - 27 Aug 2012 :  10:38:47  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

Were the organizers able to work anything out to get a Candlekeep GenCon pin to our long suffering mods?
They don't have them just yet, but arrangements are being made, as the follow-up communications and post-Gen Con dust begin to settle.

For example, I've been doing last passes on a couple of articles that should hopefully be seeing e-print next month over this weekend, making trivial things like sending awesome pins to folks take a back burner. But soon...
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The Red Walker
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Posted - 27 Aug 2012 :  16:29:17  Show Profile  Send The Red Walker a Yahoo! Message Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Garen Thal

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

Were the organizers able to work anything out to get a Candlekeep GenCon pin to our long suffering mods?
They don't have them just yet, but arrangements are being made, as the follow-up communications and post-Gen Con dust begin to settle.

For example, I've been doing last passes on a couple of articles that should hopefully be seeing e-print next month over this weekend, making trivial things like sending awesome pins to folks take a back burner. But soon...



Yeah, I did notice that when I got mine out last night, after I asked this question, to look at it again....my curiousity to whether the mods were getting theirs seemed to fade slowly away.....it's pretty awesome.

A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -

John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Garen Thal
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Posted - 02 Sep 2012 :  17:11:40  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey, folks! A couple of article announcements for this month's D&D Insider offerings:

In Dragon Magazine 415, we have "History Check: The Many Deaths of Manshoon," an article dealing with the fates of the clones of the famed and infamous archwizard. Including a few you've never even heard of...

In Dungeon Magazine #206, there's "The Ecology of the Malaugrym," detailing the foul shapechangers and their way of life.

I've been lucky over the last year to get to play with some classic Realms staples (Cormyr, the Old Skull Inn, and now Manshoon and the Malaugrym), so I hope you folks read and enjoy.
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