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Brimstone
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Posted - 31 Jul 2008 :  06:07:28  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4ex/20080731a


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Dargoth
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Posted - 31 Jul 2008 :  06:51:39  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
well it is at least a bit more interesting than Loudwater

I wonder what there going to do with Soneillon seeing as how Succubus are now devils...... Im guessing she'll be killed off

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Kiaransalyn
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Posted - 31 Jul 2008 :  06:59:26  Show Profile Send Kiaransalyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yet another excerpt, and yet another nail in the coffin of the Realms we once knew.

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crazedventurers
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Posted - 31 Jul 2008 :  09:35:20  Show Profile  Visit crazedventurers's Homepage Send crazedventurers a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kiaransalyn

Yet another excerpt, and yet another nail in the coffin of the Realms we once knew.


it's not that bad, at least it reflects previous lore for the region.

Things move on, the WoTC 4E Realms have moved on, all they can do is write about the current times and hopefully add something of what happened before (1E/2E/3E).

Cheers

Damian

So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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Kiaransalyn
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Posted - 31 Jul 2008 :  11:09:42  Show Profile Send Kiaransalyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by crazedventurers


Things move on, the WoTC 4E Realms have moved on,


Our bowels move regularly but it's nothing to cheer about. The problem is if they stop moving or they move on too fast. The problem with the $E Realms is that they've moved on too quick.

Put it another way, there is moving on and there is progress. I would have liked to have seen progress but what we've got is change for change's sake.

That said perhaps your choice of the words "move on" is apt. After all, people always say you have to move on after the death of a relative or close friend.

<- Just so you know I'm not picking a fight.

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Jimmy: Yeah. But don't hold it against me.
Ken: I'll try not to... Just try not to say anything too loud or crass.

Edited by - Kiaransalyn on 31 Jul 2008 11:10:45
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RodOdom
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Posted - 31 Jul 2008 :  11:53:49  Show Profile  Visit RodOdom's Homepage Send RodOdom a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Great Dale has the opposite problem as the other previewed regions : too little has been done. 100 years have passed and the status quo is still where the novel "Lady of Poison" left things. That doesn't make much sense.

Edited by - RodOdom on 31 Jul 2008 12:05:29
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crazedventurers
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Posted - 31 Jul 2008 :  12:22:03  Show Profile  Visit crazedventurers's Homepage Send crazedventurers a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kiaransalyn
<- Just so you know I'm not picking a fight.



I know .

I agree, I am not a fan of the new 4E Realms (from what I have seen or read about). I am not a fan of some things that has happened in 3E Realms either, too many RSE's for one, (clunky mechanical rules for another.....).

All WoTC can do is write about 4E as this is their new Realms, all we can hope for is that the articles are interesting and at least acknowledge the history that preceded it, in this case the Great Dale article hits (some of) the mark.

Cheers

Damian

So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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Edited by - crazedventurers on 31 Jul 2008 12:52:42
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Kiaransalyn
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Very fair points you make Damian.

Death is Life
Love is Hate
Revenge is Forgiveness


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Ken: I'll try not to... Just try not to say anything too loud or crass.
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Wooly Rupert
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Other than the fact this preview is post-Sellplague, I find no real faults with it. It's still light on information, but it's not something that was pointlessly changed (Elfharrow), lacking in Realmslore (Elfharrow, Loudwater), or that totally ignored what had come before (Elfharrow). I wish all the previews had been more like this one.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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quote:
Originally posted by crazedventurers

it's not that bad, at least it reflects previous lore for the region.

Things move on, the WoTC 4E Realms have moved on, all they can do is write about the current times and hopefully add something of what happened before (1E/2E/3E).



I agree. I'm not saying I like the context, but at least this time it seems like this area remains connected to previous lore.

By the way, I didn't think the Rotting Man was killed in Lady of Poison (the excerpt references the events of those novels), just defeated.

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Brimstone
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-UE is one of my favorite 3.5 books.


BRIMSTONE

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep
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