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Brimstone
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http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4ex/20080724a

-A new Excerpt from the up-coming FRCG.


BRIMSTONE

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
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Ranak
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I was wondering what they were going to do with the remnants of Halruua.

A great take on the elves, more along the lines of what you would expect from wild elves.

It sounds like an exciting little area to adventure in, but I am starting to think that the Shining South is entirely devoid of any points of light, lol.



quote:
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http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4ex/20080724a

-A new Excerpt from the up-coming FRCG.


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Soturno
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Posted - 24 Jul 2008 :  07:30:09  Show Profile  Visit Soturno's Homepage  Click to see Soturno's MSN Messenger address Send Soturno a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Undoubtedly original, but reminds me Dark-sun.
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Colman
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I was thinking Dark Sun as well.
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Quale
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first Mezro, now Misty Vale, where will this stop, this is some other world

ah well, older versions are better, just confirms that I won't have nothing with 4eFR

never cared for Lapaliya tough

I don't see how Halruaa is more interesting now

check this if you want something else with Misty Vale, now is see that I should have strayed more from canon in this article

http://www.forgottenrealmsvault.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=20&st=0&sk=t&sd=a#p259

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Wooly Rupert
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It's actually not a bad preview, if you ignore the fact that it's a post-Sellplague thing. If it was in a different setting, I'd be quite intrigued by it.

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Brimstone
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

It's actually not a bad preview, if you ignore the fact that it's a post-Sellplague thing. If it was in a different setting, I'd be quite intrigued by it.



-QFT.


BRIMSTONE

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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quote:
Originally posted by Quale


never cared for Lapaliya tough



I did.

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Brian R. James
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Posted - 24 Jul 2008 :  16:52:31  Show Profile  Visit Brian R. James's Homepage Send Brian R. James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've always been intrigued by Lapaliya and really wanted to see it developed further. Oh well, maybe I'll write up something for Candlekeep Compendium.

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The Sage
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That would be nice. There is a real dearth of information for the region, and I'd like to see more.

In fact, I recall Eric telling us how he'd created most of the lore on Lapaliiya for Serpent Kingdoms... and had "all the references he could find, but they were few and far between."

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Kyrene
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Just a question: can anyone actually download the accompanying map?

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Kyrene
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quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

quote:
Originally posted by Quale


never cared for Lapaliya (sic) tough (sic)



I did.


So did I. One of my favourite PCs was born in Ormpur and has a history set in Lapaliiya and Tashalar.

Lost for words? Find them in the Glossary of Phrases, Sayings & Words of the Realms

I am a sexy, shoeless god of war!

The Sellplague began, for all intents and purposes, in the dominions of the Corporation. Greed murdered Good Design, unraveling common sense in the cosmos and destroying her dominion. At the same time, Sales Fears and Warcraft Envy happened into alignment. This cataclysmic coincidence led to upheaval, shaking apart the primeval order, opening up holes in wallets, and reshaping everything...
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Kyrene

Just a question: can anyone actually download the accompanying map?

I didn't have any problem.

What's been happening when you've tried to download it Kyrene?

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Quale
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the only time I played in Lapaliiya was in Sammaresh, in a campaign where all the PCs were yuant-ti (all sorts)

the campaign ended with the Whispering Serpent

I statted him here http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=10103042&postcount=360
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Kyrene

Just a question: can anyone actually download the accompanying map?

I didn't have any problem.

What's been happening when you've tried to download it Kyrene?



I can't get the map, either. It gives me a page not found every time I click on it.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Kyrene

Just a question: can anyone actually download the accompanying map?

I didn't have any problem.

What's been happening when you've tried to download it Kyrene?



I can't get the map, either. It gives me a page not found every time I click on it.

Curious. I'm getting the same response now.

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The Sage
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Heh. Now this is interesting. I've just tried to open the map I downloaded earlier today... and I get a message telling me the file is corrupted.

Strange.

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Heh. Now this is interesting. I've just tried to open the map I downloaded earlier today... and I get a message telling me the file is corrupted.

Strange.



Your gremlins are spreading!


... And one of them bit me while making this post.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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The map link hasn't worked for me, either.

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Brimstone
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-You gotta love Gleemax huh? The map has never worked for me. Someone on the WotC Boards(poster) said that it would get fixed on monday, so...I expect it to be done next Wednesday.

-Sage what did you think of the map when you could see it? I noticed in the Chult Excerpt that it was out of Chapter 6 in the 4E FRCG on page 103. Is the Elfharrow map of the same quaility as the Chult map, or is it like the outstanding map that was with the Cormyr article?


BRIMSTONE

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep

Edited by - Brimstone on 25 Jul 2008 16:45:41
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

-Sage what did you think of the map when you could see it? I noticed in the Chult Excerpt that it was out of Chapter 6 in the 4E FRCG on page 103. Is the Elfharrow map of the same quaility as the Chult map, or is it like the outstanding map that was with the Cormyr article?
I didn't even get that far. When I opened the file I was immediately met with a blank screen and a "corrupted file" message. I couldn't do anything but close it.

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Brimstone
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quote:
Originally posted by The SageI didn't even get that far. When I opened the file I was immediately met with a blank screen and a "corrupted file" message. I couldn't do anything but close it.

-Ok I was under theimpression that you were able to view it. I hope it is not of the same quality of the Chult, or the Amn Map. That would make me very sad.

-Going by the Excerpts, I think the Realms maps are going to be of a poor quality.


BRIMSTONE

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Markustay
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Posted - 26 Jul 2008 :  07:12:42  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hopefully they will be more along the lines of the Cormyr Map that accompanied Brian's article (which I am still drooling over).

Shar sounds like they turned it into WoW's Thousand Needles, and the Misty Vale sounds like a double of WoW's Scorched Vale - right down to the burnt-out trees and stumps.

Not that I mind this in that region - it really was a pretty boring place before. I have a map of the original done (I don't know why I never posted it before), but I'm having trouble accessing my DeviantART account (I had some virus trouble that smacked around my IE), but as soon as I get it working I'll post it so we can all reminisce about 'the glory that was' (or lack there-of).

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 26 Jul 2008 19:00:00
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Kyrene
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

What's been happening when you've tried to download it Kyrene?


Heh. Basically what Wooly and the others have said.

I tried extracting the map out of the PDF file, but I'm not sure if the map they (WotC) tried posting isn't perhaps bigger. I'm starting to want to overlay the map snippets with the current 3rd Edition map to see what has changed. I prefer scaling down from as large a map as possible to preserve resolution (through my own homebrew method of incremental scaling and sharpening). It's not that important, merely a whimsy on my part.

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Markustay
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They said they would fix it Monday, which is more like Wed-Thurs in WotC speak.

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Markustay
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Map is up...

Not very inspiring. :(

I had changed my mind about playing 4e and buying the FRCG when I saw Brian's article, but if this is an example of the finished product (Maps) in the FRCG, I can pretty-much gaurantee I won't be making this purchase.

Since I was mostly buying it for the new Maps (Ed's lore I can read in the store without buying the book).

The quality is lower then the circa-1970's maps by Judge's Guild.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 28 Jul 2008 19:11:43
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