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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 24 Jul 2008 : 06:20:42
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http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4ex/20080724a
-A new Excerpt from the up-coming FRCG.
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"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding." Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Ranak
Learned Scribe
USA
190 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jul 2008 : 06:55:33
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I was wondering what they were going to do with the remnants of Halruua.
A great take on the elves, more along the lines of what you would expect from wild elves.
It sounds like an exciting little area to adventure in, but I am starting to think that the Shining South is entirely devoid of any points of light, lol.
quote: Originally posted by Brimstone
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4ex/20080724a
-A new Excerpt from the up-coming FRCG.
BRIMSTONE
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Soturno
Acolyte
Brazil
11 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jul 2008 : 07:30:09
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Undoubtedly original, but reminds me Dark-sun. |
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Colman
Acolyte
Ireland
33 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jul 2008 : 08:25:15
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I was thinking Dark Sun as well. |
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Quale
Master of Realmslore
1757 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jul 2008 : 10:17:13
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first Mezro, now Misty Vale, where will this stop, this is some other world
ah well, older versions are better, just confirms that I won't have nothing with 4eFR
never cared for Lapaliya tough
I don't see how Halruaa is more interesting now
check this if you want something else with Misty Vale, now is see that I should have strayed more from canon in this article
http://www.forgottenrealmsvault.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=20&st=0&sk=t&sd=a#p259 |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jul 2008 : 14:09:37
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It's actually not a bad preview, if you ignore the fact that it's a post-Sellplague thing. If it was in a different setting, I'd be quite intrigued by it.
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3285 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jul 2008 : 14:12:23
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
It's actually not a bad preview, if you ignore the fact that it's a post-Sellplague thing. If it was in a different setting, I'd be quite intrigued by it.
-QFT.
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"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding." Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jul 2008 : 15:06:24
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quote: Originally posted by Quale
never cared for Lapaliya tough
I did. |
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Brian R. James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer
USA
1098 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jul 2008 : 16:52:31
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I've always been intrigued by Lapaliya and really wanted to see it developed further. Oh well, maybe I'll write up something for Candlekeep Compendium. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2008 : 01:06:57
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That would be nice. There is a real dearth of information for the region, and I'd like to see more.
In fact, I recall Eric telling us how he'd created most of the lore on Lapaliiya for Serpent Kingdoms... and had "all the references he could find, but they were few and far between." |
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Kyrene
Senior Scribe
South Africa
716 Posts |
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Kyrene
Senior Scribe
South Africa
716 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2008 : 07:02:57
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quote: Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
quote: Originally posted by Quale
never cared for Lapaliya (sic) tough (sic)
I did.
So did I. One of my favourite PCs was born in Ormpur and has a history set in Lapaliiya and Tashalar. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2008 : 08:03:19
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quote: Originally posted by Kyrene
Just a question: can anyone actually download the accompanying map?
I didn't have any problem.
What's been happening when you've tried to download it Kyrene? |
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Quale
Master of Realmslore
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2008 : 13:15:08
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quote: Originally posted by The Sage
quote: Originally posted by Kyrene
Just a question: can anyone actually download the accompanying map?
I didn't have any problem.
What's been happening when you've tried to download it Kyrene?
I can't get the map, either. It gives me a page not found every time I click on it. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2008 : 13:40:02
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote: Originally posted by The Sage
quote: Originally posted by Kyrene
Just a question: can anyone actually download the accompanying map?
I didn't have any problem.
What's been happening when you've tried to download it Kyrene?
I can't get the map, either. It gives me a page not found every time I click on it.
Curious. I'm getting the same response now.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2008 : 14:22:23
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quote: Originally posted by The Sage
Heh. Now this is interesting. I've just tried to open the map I downloaded earlier today... and I get a message telling me the file is corrupted.
Strange.
Your gremlins are spreading!
... And one of them bit me while making this post. |
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 25 Jul 2008 14:23:46 |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2008 : 14:24:43
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The map link hasn't worked for me, either. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams." --Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3285 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2008 : 16:44:57
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-You gotta love Gleemax huh? The map has never worked for me. Someone on the WotC Boards(poster) said that it would get fixed on monday, so...I expect it to be done next Wednesday.
-Sage what did you think of the map when you could see it? I noticed in the Chult Excerpt that it was out of Chapter 6 in the 4E FRCG on page 103. Is the Elfharrow map of the same quaility as the Chult map, or is it like the outstanding map that was with the Cormyr article?
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"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding." Alaundo of Candlekeep |
Edited by - Brimstone on 25 Jul 2008 16:45:41 |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2008 : 17:02:43
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quote: Originally posted by Brimstone
-Sage what did you think of the map when you could see it? I noticed in the Chult Excerpt that it was out of Chapter 6 in the 4E FRCG on page 103. Is the Elfharrow map of the same quaility as the Chult map, or is it like the outstanding map that was with the Cormyr article?
I didn't even get that far. When I opened the file I was immediately met with a blank screen and a "corrupted file" message. I couldn't do anything but close it. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3285 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2008 : 17:13:39
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quote: Originally posted by The SageI didn't even get that far. When I opened the file I was immediately met with a blank screen and a "corrupted file" message. I couldn't do anything but close it.
-Ok I was under theimpression that you were able to view it. I hope it is not of the same quality of the Chult, or the Amn Map. That would make me very sad.
-Going by the Excerpts, I think the Realms maps are going to be of a poor quality.
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"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding." Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2008 : 07:12:42
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Hopefully they will be more along the lines of the Cormyr Map that accompanied Brian's article (which I am still drooling over).
Shar sounds like they turned it into WoW's Thousand Needles, and the Misty Vale sounds like a double of WoW's Scorched Vale - right down to the burnt-out trees and stumps.
Not that I mind this in that region - it really was a pretty boring place before. I have a map of the original done (I don't know why I never posted it before), but I'm having trouble accessing my DeviantART account (I had some virus trouble that smacked around my IE), but as soon as I get it working I'll post it so we can all reminisce about 'the glory that was' (or lack there-of). |
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Edited by - Markustay on 26 Jul 2008 19:00:00 |
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Kyrene
Senior Scribe
South Africa
716 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2008 : 16:17:15
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quote: Originally posted by The Sage
What's been happening when you've tried to download it Kyrene?
Heh. Basically what Wooly and the others have said.
I tried extracting the map out of the PDF file, but I'm not sure if the map they (WotC) tried posting isn't perhaps bigger. I'm starting to want to overlay the map snippets with the current 3rd Edition map to see what has changed. I prefer scaling down from as large a map as possible to preserve resolution (through my own homebrew method of incremental scaling and sharpening). It's not that important, merely a whimsy on my part. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2008 : 19:00:41
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They said they would fix it Monday, which is more like Wed-Thurs in WotC speak. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jul 2008 : 19:07:56
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Map is up...
Not very inspiring. :(
I had changed my mind about playing 4e and buying the FRCG when I saw Brian's article, but if this is an example of the finished product (Maps) in the FRCG, I can pretty-much gaurantee I won't be making this purchase.
Since I was mostly buying it for the new Maps (Ed's lore I can read in the store without buying the book).
The quality is lower then the circa-1970's maps by Judge's Guild. |
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Edited by - Markustay on 28 Jul 2008 19:11:43 |
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Kiaransalyn
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
762 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jul 2008 : 19:18:45
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Hmm, it's OK but I can't help thinking I've seen it before. Am I thinking Goodlund/The Desolation or Dark Sun. Basically, they've turned Forgotten Realms into Dragonlance, so it seems to me.
And I'm in awe of the map. I've not seen that much detail in a drawing since Nigel Tufnell sketched a prehistoric monument. Although Elfharrow has less danger of being stepped on by dwarves.
Incidentally, do male elves shave their chests? |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3285 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jul 2008 : 20:56:02
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quote: Originally posted by Markustay
Map is up...
Not very inspiring. :(
I had changed my mind about playing 4e and buying the FRCG when I saw Brian's article, but if this is an example of the finished product (Maps) in the FRCG, I can pretty-much gaurantee I won't be making this purchase.
Since I was mostly buying it for the new Maps (Ed's lore I can read in the store without buying the book).
The quality is lower then the circa-1970's maps by Judge's Guild.
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-Wow that is one 'Pathetic Map'.
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"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding." Alaundo of Candlekeep |
Edited by - Brimstone on 28 Jul 2008 20:56:46 |
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Kiaransalyn
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
762 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jul 2008 : 21:01:37
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quote: Originally posted by Brimstone
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You've provided more detail with your emoticons than there is in that map.
They could at least have written Terra Incognita or the equivalent on the blank bits.
*sighs* Ah, gone are the days when people actually cared about doing a good job. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3285 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jul 2008 : 21:05:20
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-Thats all part of my 'Charm'.
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"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding." Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Kyrene
Senior Scribe
South Africa
716 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2008 : 07:31:30
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quote: Originally posted by Kiaransalyn
Incidentally, do male elves shave their chests?
Only if they are to look like native american hunters. *yawn* |
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