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Mace Hammerhand
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Germany
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Posted - 24 Apr 2008 :  22:35:03  Show Profile  Visit Mace Hammerhand's Homepage Send Mace Hammerhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens

quote:
Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand

Is there a spell that puts bubbles into beer?

That would be the greatest accomplishment.


(What do ye expect, I'm a dwarf! Of course, I'm biased!)



I am rather tall, but I would settle for a spell that makes most easily available beers actually taste like beer again, instead of slightly yellowed water.



I have the spell for ya!

"Ticket to Germany"
(conjuration... I think *hicks*)
Range: Personal
Duration: Depends on where you come from: EU permanent, rest...I dunno
Target: self...mostly
Components: V, S, M

You conjure up a ticket to a steel-dragon that will transport you to the land of beer and...well, beer (and some soccer, maybe, for those who care). Once you leave the dragon you can indeed behave like a German on vacation in, say, Mallorca, only that you are no German and actually in Germany.
Avoid discussions about soccer, unless you also want to enjoy brawls like German hooligans (sure, it ain't Holland, and it definitely ain't England, but the native hooligans can dish out pretty well...as well!).
Material component: Local Currency (to get there!), and local currency (to get pissed in Germany!)


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Jorkens
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Norway
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Posted - 25 Apr 2008 :  08:10:15  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand

quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens

quote:
Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand

Is there a spell that puts bubbles into beer?

That would be the greatest accomplishment.


(What do ye expect, I'm a dwarf! Of course, I'm biased!)



I am rather tall, but I would settle for a spell that makes most easily available beers actually taste like beer again, instead of slightly yellowed water.



I have the spell for ya!

"Ticket to Germany"
(conjuration... I think *hicks*)
Range: Personal
Duration: Depends on where you come from: EU permanent, rest...I dunno
Target: self...mostly
Components: V, S, M

You conjure up a ticket to a steel-dragon that will transport you to the land of beer and...well, beer (and some soccer, maybe, for those who care). Once you leave the dragon you can indeed behave like a German on vacation in, say, Mallorca, only that you are no German and actually in Germany.
Avoid discussions about soccer, unless you also want to enjoy brawls like German hooligans (sure, it ain't Holland, and it definitely ain't England, but the native hooligans can dish out pretty well...as well!).
Material component: Local Currency (to get there!), and local currency (to get pissed in Germany!)





I know that spell. Along with Czech's Everlasting Brew it is a spell of honour and renown. With bloody expensive material components. The football part might also be a problem. I was thinking more of the local cantrip. Or the massive lost "Keep your corporation hands of our brewery"-spell. Along with vinyl and TSR these are the three components for the great past.

I should cut down on the coffee (or Gentle Giant records). And yes dear moderators, I will try to keep on topic
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Wandering_mage
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Posted - 25 Apr 2008 :  17:45:36  Show Profile  Visit Wandering_mage's Homepage Send Wandering_mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Sundering. Elves have some destructive teamwork. :)

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Lord Karsus
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USA
3125 Posts

Posted - 29 Apr 2008 :  16:12:56  Show Profile  Send Lord Karsus an AOL message Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Some people just don't know the truth.



-Well, we do, so...

(A Tri-Partite Arcanist Who Has Forgotten More Than Most Will Ever Know)

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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

USA
15633 Posts

Posted - 29 Apr 2008 :  18:08:51  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would have to say it was the 15th level spell Ao first cast - Create Crystal Sphere.

quote:
Originally posted by Dagnirion

-Karsus' Avatar a spectacular failure...? Wow...Just wow...
Quite right - the SPELL wasn't a spectacular failure, the MAGE was.

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Undermountain wasn't created by spells. It was carved out by dwarves and drow, and added to by Halaster.
And in 4e, we'll probably find out it was originally an Aboleth Kingdom, in the time BEFORE the Age of Thunder.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 29 Apr 2008 18:10:43
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Aulduron
Learned Scribe

USA
343 Posts

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A spell may not have created Undermountain, in particular, but there was a spell that created the underdark, and draws dark elves to it. Although that may have been part of Dark Disaster.

"Those with talent become wizards, Those without talent spend their lives praying for it"

-Procopio Septus
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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USA
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Posted - 01 May 2008 :  00:45:46  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aulduron

A spell may not have created Undermountain, in particular, but there was a spell that created the underdark, and draws dark elves to it. Although that may have been part of Dark Disaster.



I'm pretty sure what you are describing is a recently introduced retcon (found in the second book of the Lady Penitent trilogy).

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)
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Aulduron
Learned Scribe

USA
343 Posts

Posted - 01 May 2008 :  00:50:16  Show Profile Send Aulduron a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You are correct.

"Those with talent become wizards, Those without talent spend their lives praying for it"

-Procopio Septus
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Elestar
Seeker

Hungary
27 Posts

Posted - 19 Jul 2008 :  20:39:01  Show Profile  Visit Elestar's Homepage Send Elestar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I chose the Imaskari Wards. Banning gods from a crystal sphere is quite remarkable.

The Sundering, Uaul'Selu'Keryth is second to me, because even if the spell might be successful, the consequences are catastrophic, and it is not just blowing up a planet, but an ultimate Uaul torns even the Weawe asunder. It is a mighty ritual for sure, but not too wise.

Mythallars are really impressive, just as flying cities are, but those damn quasimagical mechanisms make your cerebral glands aching... ouch

The Draco-Rage Mythal was a smart spell.

The disastrous killing storm of the Mormhaor'Sykerylor was not.


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Dracons
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USA
299 Posts

Posted - 22 Jul 2008 :  01:11:36  Show Profile  Visit Dracons's Homepage  Send Dracons a Yahoo! Message Send Dracons a Private Message  Reply with Quote
All are good. But Magic Missile is. It allowed users to gain power by using it on goblins.

But other then that, Karsus Avatar was the greatest. Just because he realized he couldn't control the power of a god, does mean it was a failure. He still became one. Stealing the magic powers of a god of magic, through magic. Now that's a spell.

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silverwizard
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Greece
76 Posts

Posted - 22 Jul 2008 :  18:22:08  Show Profile  Visit silverwizard's Homepage Send silverwizard a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Karsus Avatar, for the aforementioned reasons
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Dennis
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9933 Posts

Posted - 19 Apr 2010 :  20:03:50  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dracons

All are good. But Magic Missile is. It allowed users to gain power by using it on goblins.

But other then that, Karsus Avatar was the greatest. Just because he realized he couldn't control the power of a god, does mean it was a failure. He still became one. Stealing the magic powers of a god of magic, through magic. Now that's a spell.



True. It was not really a failure.

Every beginning has an end.
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Alisttair
Great Reader

Canada
3054 Posts

Posted - 26 Apr 2010 :  16:57:25  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage  Click to see Alisttair's MSN Messenger address Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm coming back in here and also saying Karsus' Avatar was the greatest and was not a failure. It did what it was supposed to. He merely chose the wrong target is all.

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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Moderator

Australia
31691 Posts

Posted - 26 Apr 2010 :  17:03:05  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

I'm coming back in here and also saying Karsus' Avatar was the greatest and was not a failure. It did what it was supposed to. He merely chose the wrong target is all.

The Momentary God... and all that!

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Alisttair
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Canada
3054 Posts

Posted - 26 Apr 2010 :  17:46:26  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage  Click to see Alisttair's MSN Messenger address Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
He should have targeted Amaunator. Now that was a weakling god compared to Mystryl. Then as a deity he could have gotten used to the power and then maybe go after Mystryl.

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Asharak
Learned Scribe

France
165 Posts

Posted - 26 Apr 2010 :  19:17:24  Show Profile  Visit Asharak's Homepage Send Asharak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sundering

Dawn Cataclysm
Time of Troubles
Spellplague

The gods... it's so common

But change the continents... just the once

"Soyez réalistes : demandez l'impossible"

Sorry for my English... it's not my native tongue.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Moderator

Australia
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Posted - 27 Apr 2010 :  01:35:10  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

He should have targeted Amaunator. Now that was a weakling god compared to Mystryl. Then as a deity he could have gotten used to the power and then maybe go after Mystryl.

I disagree. I seem to recall a few sources suggesting that Karsus realised that his mistake was, basically, targeting a god.

Granted, targeting a god other than Mystryl probably wouldn't have had the same disastrous and/or immediate impact upon the Realms. But at the same time, I don't believe Karsus would've just stopped with Amaunator. And even with the power of a deity... taking out Mystryl still would've been a reckless move. As the death of Mystra 2.0 [at the hands of another god] demonstrates just before the Spellplague.

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Tren of Twilight Tower
Seeker

51 Posts

Posted - 27 Apr 2010 :  02:13:24  Show Profile  Visit Tren of Twilight Tower's Homepage Send Tren of Twilight Tower a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin

My vote goes to the Imaskar! Change the continent, or affect a race is one thing... now, block the gods! These old imaskars have some cards in the sleeve, really. ^^




Agreed. One does not kick gods out of game on every Monday eve. To do anything even remotely close to that one should poses something much more convincing than courage.


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Alisttair
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Canada
3054 Posts

Posted - 27 Apr 2010 :  14:29:42  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage  Click to see Alisttair's MSN Messenger address Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

He should have targeted Amaunator. Now that was a weakling god compared to Mystryl. Then as a deity he could have gotten used to the power and then maybe go after Mystryl.

I disagree. I seem to recall a few sources suggesting that Karsus realised that his mistake was, basically, targeting a god.

Granted, targeting a god other than Mystryl probably wouldn't have had the same disastrous and/or immediate impact upon the Realms. But at the same time, I don't believe Karsus would've just stopped with Amaunator. And even with the power of a deity... taking out Mystryl still would've been a reckless move. As the death of Mystra 2.0 [at the hands of another god] demonstrates just before the Spellplague.



So technically, the spellplague could have coincided with the Fall of Netheril had Mystryl not come back as Mystra.

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Sill Alias
Senior Scribe

Kazakhstan
588 Posts

Posted - 27 Apr 2010 :  14:37:15  Show Profile  Visit Sill Alias's Homepage Send Sill Alias a Private Message  Reply with Quote
But could it be that he could only target Mystryl? Maybe her potfolio somehow was the base of his spell?

I don't know the details, but the spell that can protect from even Ao?

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_Jarlaxle_
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Germany
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Posted - 27 Apr 2010 :  14:56:40  Show Profile Send _Jarlaxle_ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

I disagree. I seem to recall a few sources suggesting that Karsus realised that his mistake was, basically, targeting a god.


The end of Dangerous games says the following:
quote:

By then, the enclave had tipped almost vertically. Karsus, once a god, now a red stone
statue, tipped far into space and plummeted, and his loving, ill-fated cousin fell after.
For an instant, Karsus understood what had happened, how Mystryl had sacrificed herself
for the common good of god and man, an unselfish sacrifice he never could have conceived
of. And how his loving cousin had sacrificed herself believing in him, as the empire had
believed in him.
And how he'd betrayed them all.
With this last, godlike insight, Karsus's selfish heart broke



But I agree with you that targeting other gods would probally have simmilar destructive effects.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Moderator

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Posted - 27 Apr 2010 :  15:00:20  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

He should have targeted Amaunator. Now that was a weakling god compared to Mystryl. Then as a deity he could have gotten used to the power and then maybe go after Mystryl.

I disagree. I seem to recall a few sources suggesting that Karsus realised that his mistake was, basically, targeting a god.

Granted, targeting a god other than Mystryl probably wouldn't have had the same disastrous and/or immediate impact upon the Realms. But at the same time, I don't believe Karsus would've just stopped with Amaunator. And even with the power of a deity... taking out Mystryl still would've been a reckless move. As the death of Mystra 2.0 [at the hands of another god] demonstrates just before the Spellplague.



So technically, the spellplague could have coincided with the Fall of Netheril had Mystryl not come back as Mystra.

If Mystryl hadn't reincarnated herself and restored the Weave, I suppose an early derivative of a Spellplague-type event could've rocked the Realms during the Fall of Netheril. But the actual Spellplague was born from the unique circumstances surrounding the death of Mystra 2.0, and the inability of the Chosen to help reconstruct the Weave.

Besides, we've already been witness to a, very brief, Spellplague-like event -- after Mystryl's demise. The Weave unravelled everywhere... just as it did during the actual 1385 DR Spellplague.

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Ashe Ravenheart
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USA
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Posted - 27 Apr 2010 :  15:16:58  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
(Kinda on-topic, but a bit off as well)

What about the spell* the elven High Mages cast creating Evermeet? Permanently linking the Feywild to the Realms (and warping/distorting the Weave to do so) is pretty high up there.

The off-topic part is a question I have that, since Evermeet was so connected to the Weave, why didn't it disconnect from the Realms when Mystra was murdered?

*Heh... missed this on the first go around.
quote:
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Sundering <snip>

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skychrome
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Posted - 27 Apr 2010 :  15:21:18  Show Profile  Visit skychrome's Homepage Send skychrome a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

I'm coming back in here and also saying Karsus' Avatar was the greatest and was not a failure. It did what it was supposed to. He merely chose the wrong target is all.


Although the Wayward and the Imaskari option are on my top list, I have to give a +1 to Karsus' most fanatic minion, Alisttair, here in the Keep.

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Alisttair
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Canada
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Posted - 27 Apr 2010 :  15:34:25  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage  Click to see Alisttair's MSN Messenger address Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The SageIf Mystryl hadn't reincarnated herself and restored the Weave, I suppose an early derivative of a Spellplague-type event could've rocked the Realms during the Fall of Netheril. But the actual Spellplague was born from the unique circumstances surrounding the death of Mystra 2.0, and the inability of the Chosen to help reconstruct the Weave.

Besides, we've already been witness to a, very brief, Spellplague-like event -- after Mystryl's demise. The Weave unravelled everywhere... just as it did during the actual 1385 DR Spellplague.



That reminds me. Mystra had her Chosen as a way to protect the Weave, giving parts of herself to mortals. In doing so, she basically foresaw her demise (again). A hypothesis that just came to me is that, even though they say there is no longer a weave and thus magic simply works differently, perhaps in actuality, the weave is simply different as it has been re-threaded by the essence of the Chosen, and the remaining few keep it intact (and so it is simply not made of the same powerful divine strands, but weaker ones). Could be something worked into a campaign plot, doubt that is what WotC is actually planning (unlike the reincarnation of Karsus plot )

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