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jlf2n
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Posted - 30 Jan 2008 :  20:42:45  Show Profile  Visit jlf2n's Homepage  Send jlf2n an ICQ Message Send jlf2n a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hail and well met.

Does anyone have any information regarding just who these guys are and what they call themselves? I have found digging through the lore that there seems to be only one major thieves guild in BG and they run any competition out of town rather quickly. But thats all I can find, no name or anything else seems to be out there.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. We are creating a PW for NWN2 based off the Sword Coast and we have more than half of the areas completed already. This PW will be strictly Forgotten Realms lore, nothing made up. If you know your lore, then you will know where you are at any given time.

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Posted - 30 Jan 2008 :  22:42:52  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not that what's in the video games is "canon", but in Baldur's Gate 1 there are some interesting encounters involving a Thieves Guild in the city run by a shady character named Ravenscar (I think?--I know he IS an official NPC). Also, I think Volo's Guide to the Sword Coast says a little bit about him.

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Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 30 Jan 2008 22:44:22
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The Sage
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Posted - 30 Jan 2008 :  22:57:45  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't immediately recall them being referenced in Volo's Guide to the Sword Coast.

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Posted - 31 Jan 2008 :  00:58:03  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm, either way VGtoSC would be a good reference book to have if one is making a game based on that area.

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jlf2n
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Posted - 31 Jan 2008 :  14:24:22  Show Profile  Visit jlf2n's Homepage  Send jlf2n an ICQ Message Send jlf2n a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Aye,the Sage is correct, they are not really mentioned in VGtTSC. The only thing it says is that there is a rather powerful and successful thieves guild who operates in BG and they run any competition out of town. Thanks for the tidbit on Ravenscar though, we will defintely use him.

We are making this PW hardcore Forgotten Realms lore so any info we can gather will be of great help. First and foremost we are sticking to Cannon material, and if the info is vague there I try to get it from any of the video games thats been released. Any further info on BG would be greatly appreciated.

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Posted - 31 Jan 2008 :  15:28:54  Show Profile  Visit ShadezofDis's Homepage  Send ShadezofDis an AOL message Send ShadezofDis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
jlf2n,

The hard cover Forgotten Realms Adventures has a tiny bit about the guild as well...(checks)...

Alatos "Ravenscar" Thuibuld is a NE hm T19 in the book and the guild membership is 560+. They're well entrenched and well armed, particularly in the magic items dept. There's also the Knights of the Shield to consider, they have members active in Baldur's Gate as well (though they may have an alliance, or may avoid the thieves all together).

And other than that I can't find a thing. :)
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 31 Jan 2008 :  15:36:05  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by jlf2n
Thanks for the tidbit on Ravenscar though, we will defintely use him.




You're welcome. And it looks like ShadezofDis found the canon info about him, I knew it was somewhere.

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Posted - 31 Jan 2008 :  16:12:37  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ravenscar is also in the FRCS, in the BG section, I believe, but I never understood why he lost about five levels in 3e even though none of his classes changed from his stats in the older material.

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ShadezofDis
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Posted - 31 Jan 2008 :  17:21:02  Show Profile  Visit ShadezofDis's Homepage  Send ShadezofDis an AOL message Send ShadezofDis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Kuje

Ravenscar is also in the FRCS, in the BG section, I believe, but I never understood why he lost about five levels in 3e even though none of his classes changed from his stats in the older material.



Too many high level Realms NPCs man. ;)
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Posted - 31 Jan 2008 :  22:34:30  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by ShadezofDis

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

Ravenscar is also in the FRCS, in the BG section, I believe, but I never understood why he lost about five levels in 3e even though none of his classes changed from his stats in the older material.



Too many high level Realms NPCs man. ;)



HAHAHA. Cough. You could be correct!

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ShadezofDis
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Posted - 01 Feb 2008 :  17:42:55  Show Profile  Visit ShadezofDis's Homepage  Send ShadezofDis an AOL message Send ShadezofDis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by ShadezofDis
Too many high level Realms NPCs man. ;)



HAHAHA. Cough. You could be correct!





I thought that one might be well received.

Though I'd be happy with him at a lower level, I've got a rogue who wants some payback.
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