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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 11 Jan 2008 : 18:14:33
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This is a scroll related to the one on the Complete Cloakmaster Cycle in the "Forgotten Realms Novels" section of Candlekeep.
As I indicated there, the TSR Spelljammer adventure collection, 9286 (SJA2) Skull & Crossbows is as close as TSR came to making a Cloakmaster adventure path. The book has quite a few references to the Forgotten Realms and Realmspace (among other crystal spheres -- called "shells" for some unexplained reason), and I have a couple of questions about it which I hope that the scribes here can answer with relative ease.
First, two adventures referenced "octons," octagonal copper coins from an old-timey civilization which once existed in the Tears of Selune. If anyone knows more about that civilization, would they please share their knowledge with us?
The second question which springs to mind is from the adventure "Outpost." Without dropping any spoilers, suffice it to say that there is someone in the adventure who wants to get back to Realmspace as soon as possible. Does anyone have any information on how that individual wound up there and what became of the rest of the individual's crewmates (aside from winding up as dragon chow)? Assistance will be gratefully appreciated!
I accidentally wound up with two copies of this, and I'm willing to sell one or swap it for something which I don't have (Krynnspace, maybe), but let's discuss that on the other scroll and leave this for the Cloakmaster books.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 11 Jan 2008 : 18:39:12
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It's been so long since I read this module that I don't recall a thing about it... And I've not yet replaced my Spelljammer stuff.
Trust me, though, you don't want Krynnspace. I blame that and The Astromundi Cluster for killing the setting. Krynnspace not only had horrible original material (gods using planets as crystal balls? A 6"-tall superstrong flying gnome called "Little Biggnome"?), but it ignored some established DL canon material -- like the description of Krynn's three moons each being at the points of an equilateral triangle, remaining constantly equidistant from each other... |
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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 11 Jan 2008 : 19:01:23
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
It's been so long since I read this module that I don't recall a thing about it... And I've not yet replaced my Spelljammer stuff.
Trust me, though, you don't want Krynnspace. I blame that and The Astromundi Cluster for killing the setting. Krynnspace not only had horrible original material (gods using planets as crystal balls? A 6"-tall superstrong flying gnome called "Little Biggnome"?), but it ignored some established DL canon material -- like the description of Krynn's three moons each being at the points of an equilateral triangle, remaining constantly equidistant from each other...
WELL! I had read on Amazon.com a couple of years ago that Krynnspace was bad, but I hadn't suspected.... Brrr! For anyone unfamiliar with it, however, I heartily endorse Realmspace, by "slade" Henson. It has some fabulous Realmslore not repeated elsewhere (and a detailed description of Elminster's hideout in outer space, too). Simply as a matter of personal taste I cannot endorse Greyspace as highly, but that, too, contains a bit of Realmslore; I suppose that fans of Oerth are fully as pleased with it as I am with Realmspace, though. (There are a few things in the outer orbits of Greyspace which I would like to investigate!)
Apropos of the latter book, I must ask: does anyone know the name of the Giant Space Hamster who (apparently) survived The-Unfortunate-Event-of-a-Few-Years-Ago on Spectre?
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 11 Jan 2008 : 21:28:04
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I'd have to add Under the Dark Fist to the list of things that had a hand in killing the setting. All of the sudden this Wildspace warlord has a fleet capable of taking over multiple crystal spheres, and not only does the Elven Imperial Navy not manage to see the threat, but none of the local gods or powers that be do anything about him before he gets to this point.
And on top of that, by this point in the history of the line, we seem to have forgotten that the Phlogiston doesn't always flow the same way to various Crystal Spheres, so we just assume that people can zip back and forth between Krynn and Toril and Oerth and wherever else, completely ignoring that whole "where can you sail to and where can't you" chart in the boxed set. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 11 Jan 2008 : 21:54:31
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I'd have to add Under the Dark Fist to the list of things that had a hand in killing the setting. All of the sudden this Wildspace warlord has a fleet capable of taking over multiple crystal spheres, and not only does the Elven Imperial Navy not manage to see the threat, but none of the local gods or powers that be do anything about him before he gets to this point.
I did like some aspects of the Vodoni, particularly a couple of their ships, but the 12-sphere empire thing was a bit ridiculous. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Hawkins
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Posted - 12 Jan 2008 : 00:17:16
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Originally posted by The Sage
I don't immediately recall octons [or the civilisation responsible for using them] being mentioned elsewhere in the Realmslore.
As for worthwhile lore on Krynnspace, I would recommend the unofficial guide to 3e Krynnspace by Trampas "DragonHelm" Whiteman.
Beyond the Moons also has pretty good info on Realmspace, but I do not know how it compares to the Realmspace product. |
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
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Posted - 13 Jan 2008 : 03:51:09
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Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen
This is a scroll related to the one on the Complete Cloakmaster Cycle in the "Forgotten Realms Novels" section of Candlekeep.
As I indicated there, the TSR Spelljammer adventure collection, 9286 (SJA2) Skull & Crossbows is as close as TSR came to making a Cloakmaster adventure path. The book has quite a few references to the Forgotten Realms and Realmspace (among other crystal spheres -- called "shells" for some unexplained reason), and I have a couple of questions about it which I hope that the scribes here can answer with relative ease.
First, two adventures referenced "octons," octagonal copper coins from an old-timey civilization which once existed in the Tears of Selune. If anyone knows more about that civilization, would they please share their knowledge with us?
The second question which springs to mind is from the adventure "Outpost." Without dropping any spoilers, suffice it to say that there is someone in the adventure who wants to get back to Realmspace as soon as possible. Does anyone have any information on how that individual wound up there and what became of the rest of the individual's crewmates (aside from winding up as dragon chow)? Assistance will be gratefully appreciated!
I accidentally wound up with two copies of this, and I'm willing to sell one or swap it for something which I don't have (Krynnspace, maybe), but let's discuss that on the other scroll and leave this for the Cloakmaster books.
Wow. My first professional work as an editor....flashbacks.....
I'll have to go back and check my copy to see whom you're referring to (the non-dragon chow guy), but I might have an answer for ye eventually....
SES
who remembered a few stories about that module he can't share with the public....but they make him chuckle most evilly.... |
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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 22 Jan 2008 : 03:41:42
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Originally posted by The Sage
I don't immediately recall octons [or the civilisation responsible for using them] being mentioned elsewhere in the Realmslore.
As for worthwhile lore on Krynnspace, I would recommend the unofficial guide to 3e Krynnspace by Trampas "DragonHelm" Whiteman.
Agh! So many goodfolk to whom to reply at the same time!
O Sage: I have just visited the Spelljammer.org page for Krynnspace, and I downloaded Dragonhelm's Guide to Krynnspace, but have only had a chance to skim it quickly. Many thanks, as always.
Wooly: what was the deal with the deity using planets as scrying stones? Who was using what? I find that idea rather amusing, actually. (By the way, did the dingus arrive?)
Steven: Skull & Crossbows was an event whose shadow was cast ... er ... a shadow whose existence ... ah ... oh, dark! ... it was a Hellsuva good first try and you've proceeded from strength to strength since then.
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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 17 Jul 2008 : 02:10:25
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I must ask again: does anyone know the name of the Giant Space Hamster who (apparently) survived The-Unfortunate-Event-of-a-Few-Years-Ago on Spectre?
Did Steven or anyone else find the 4-1-1 on those copper "octons"?
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 17 Jul 2008 : 04:27:03
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Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen
I must ask again: does anyone know the name of the Giant Space Hamster who (apparently) survived The-Unfortunate-Event-of-a-Few-Years-Ago on Spectre?
I saw no names in the description of Spectre... I also noted the absence of information about the guy in the Outpost; I suspect he is just a MacGuffin, but you can add any story to him you want. |
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Ikki
Seeker
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Posted - 30 Sep 2008 : 09:57:34
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oh yes.. astromundi with their 300 billion mindflayers...
Basically requiring 1,8 trillion brains a year.. a bit more than there are sentinents in the whole overpopulated sphere.
If one begins by slashing all populations by a factor of 10.000, continues by slashing mindflayers by another 2-3 orders of magnitude, establishes the sentinent fungi thing they ate at spelljammer and think thru the whole arcane race once more. Then, maybe then.. |
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