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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 27 Dec 2008 :  15:51:28  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Whittling down the list of oddballs further...

quote:
Year of the Adomal Tapestry, 1518
Year of the Armarel, 1210
Year of the Gulagoar, 1316
Year of the Normiir, 611 (Steven says this is in Realmslore, but the definition remains unknown)
Year of Rampaging Raaserpents, 699
Year of the Sarune, 1206
Year of the Volanth, 655
Year of the Shandon Eyes, 741
Year of the Shandon Veil, 962 (Steven says shandon may be a shade of blue; I've not yet been able to find that definition, but I'd like to confirm it)


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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

So was there any basis for the word "eloene", or did you just make it up?

Made up.

quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

Actually I stole that term from Scots slang; it's to mean left-handed

Nevermind, that's where I remember corrie fist from; querying Steven on it when the Roll first came out.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Whittling down the list of oddballs further...

quote:
Year of the Adomal Tapestry, 1518
Year of the Armarel, 1210
Year of the Gulagoar, 1316
Year of the Normiir, 611 (Steven says this is in Realmslore, but the definition remains unknown)
Year of Rampaging Raaserpents, 699
Year of the Sarune, 1206
Year of the Volanth, 655
Year of the Shandon Eyes, 741
Year of the Shandon Veil, 962 (Steven says shandon may be a shade of blue; I've not yet been able to find that definition, but I'd like to confirm it)





I don't think it's necessary to understand the "meaning" of each year name as this potentially closes off realmslore possibilities.

The year 1206 DR could be the year that an ancient elven cabal of wizards known as the Sarune is formed in Evereska, or the wizard Lordrar of Halruaa creates a new servant creature which he names a sarune, or the year that the ancient dwarven delve of Sar's Rune (which history and human historians have over the centuries shortened to Sarune) is re-discovered in the Stormhorns etc. etc.

Sometimes in the Realms, it's best not to explain everything.

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quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Whittling down the list of oddballs further...

quote:
Year of the Adomal Tapestry, 1518
Year of the Armarel, 1210
Year of the Gulagoar, 1316
Year of the Normiir, 611 (Steven says this is in Realmslore, but the definition remains unknown)
Year of Rampaging Raaserpents, 699
Year of the Sarune, 1206
Year of the Volanth, 655
Year of the Shandon Eyes, 741
Year of the Shandon Veil, 962 (Steven says shandon may be a shade of blue; I've not yet been able to find that definition, but I'd like to confirm it)





I don't think it's necessary to understand the "meaning" of each year name as this potentially closes off realmslore possibilities.

The year 1206 DR could be the year that an ancient elven cabal of wizards known as the Sarune is formed in Evereska, or the wizard Lordrar of Halruaa creates a new servant creature which he names a sarune, or the year that the ancient dwarven delve of Sar's Rune (which history and human historians have over the centuries shortened to Sarune) is re-discovered in the Stormhorns etc. etc.

Sometimes in the Realms, it's best not to explain everything.

-- George Krashos




Well, it's not that I necessarily want to know exactly what happened in each year... It's just that some of these really are odd words. I want to know that they aren't misspellings or anything like that. I've been removing things from this oddball list as soon as we find some meaning for them -- even if it's just a definition from Old English or something similar.

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quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

KYRIE (from Answers.com)
1.
1. A brief petition and response used in various liturgies of several Christian churches, beginning with or composed of the words “Lord, have mercy.”
2. A brief petition and response that together comprise the first item of the Ordinary of the Roman Catholic Mass.
2. A musical setting of either of these sets of petition and response.

[Late Latin K[ymacr]rie (eleison), from Greek Kūrie eleēson, Lord, have mercy : Kūrie, vocative of kūrios, lord, master + eleēson, aorist imperative of elein, to show mercy (from eleos, mercy).]



Heh, I recently flipped through an old missal of I had in a drawer (I was raised Catholic), and the word was right there--"kyrie." And, this was a children's missal.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

KYRIE (from Answers.com)
1.
1. A brief petition and response used in various liturgies of several Christian churches, beginning with or composed of the words “Lord, have mercy.”
2. A brief petition and response that together comprise the first item of the Ordinary of the Roman Catholic Mass.
2. A musical setting of either of these sets of petition and response.

[Late Latin K[ymacr]rie (eleison), from Greek Kūrie eleēson, Lord, have mercy : Kūrie, vocative of kūrios, lord, master + eleēson, aorist imperative of elein, to show mercy (from eleos, mercy).]



Heh, I recently flipped through an old missal of I had in a drawer (I was raised Catholic), and the word was right there--"kyrie." And, this was a children's missal.



I knew the word best from the 80's song "Kyrie" by Mr. Mister... Of course, I was 11 or 12 when I first heard the song, and thought that "Krie, elison" was "Carry a laser". It didn't make any sense, but it was still a cool song.

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ranger_of_the_unicorn_run
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

KYRIE (from Answers.com)
1.
1. A brief petition and response used in various liturgies of several Christian churches, beginning with or composed of the words “Lord, have mercy.”
2. A brief petition and response that together comprise the first item of the Ordinary of the Roman Catholic Mass.
2. A musical setting of either of these sets of petition and response.

[Late Latin K[ymacr]rie (eleison), from Greek Kūrie eleēson, Lord, have mercy : Kūrie, vocative of kūrios, lord, master + eleēson, aorist imperative of elein, to show mercy (from eleos, mercy).]



Heh, I recently flipped through an old missal of I had in a drawer (I was raised Catholic), and the word was right there--"kyrie." And, this was a children's missal.



I knew the word best from the 80's song "Kyrie" by Mr. Mister... Of course, I was 11 or 12 when I first heard the song, and thought that "Krie, elison" was "Carry a laser". It didn't make any sense, but it was still a cool song.


I actually had to sing a version of a song called Kyrie in middle school choir. It was not the 80's song though, it was a choral piece.
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Asharak
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Happy new year all.

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Year of the Shandon Eyes, 741
Year of the Shandon Veil, 962 (Steven says shandon may be a shade of blue; I've not yet been able to find that definition, but I'd like to confirm it)




I don't know for a color, but I found this and hope thats help:

The boy's name Shandon sh(an)-don, also used as girl's name Shandon, is a variant of Shan (Gaelic), and the meaning of Shandon is "old, wise".

(source: thinkbabynames.com)

"Soyez ralistes : demandez l'impossible"

Sorry for my English... it's not my native tongue.
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Asharak
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Year of the Sarune, 1206

Sarune: reed wind instrument, like oboe, from Indonesia.

(source: reedmusictradition.net)

"Soyez ralistes : demandez l'impossible"

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quote:
Originally posted by Asharak

Year of the Sarune, 1206

Sarune: reed wind instrument, like oboe, from Indonesia.

(source: reedmusictradition.net)

When I visited Bali about 15 years ago, I had the opportunity to hear a kindly old man playing both a sarune [that he'd made himself] and the Javanese saron. The saron is like a trough metallophone which, at first, didn't seem to compliment the sound from the sarune very well, but eventually when the two were played at the same time, the production of a eerie, almost ghostly weave of music became apparent.

It's an experience I'll always remember.

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Wooly Rupert
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I just spent some more time playing with the list...
Here's the current version.

Some of the coding got weird on the footnotes; I'm not sure why, but I suspect part of it is googlepage's own weirdness -- it's adding in code I didn't put there. When the income tax refund comes in, I think I'm going to spring for a real website of my own.

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"The Sarune" of the Realms are not musical instruments, but a league of hidden-until-that-year female human crossbreeds-with-NDA sorceresses, who infamously NDA in the year named for them, only to be defeated by NDA. The few survivors went into hiding again, and their descendants still survive today, just waiting to sneak into the plots of novels (wherefore all of these NDAs).
The preceding is from some of Ed's original campaign lore-notes, as censored by yours truly to comply with extant NDAs.
Right now, I think I'll go and NDA with NDA after I tear my clothes off.
I'm SUCH a bad girl.
love to all,
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*reads the Lady Hooded One's post above*

I've never disliked the term "NDA" as much as I do right at this moment.
quote:
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"The Sarune" of the Realms are not musical instruments...
Aye. Because it'd likely have to have a Realms-equivalent term, eh?

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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

"The Sarune" of the Realms are not musical instruments, but a league of hidden-until-that-year female human crossbreeds-with-NDA sorceresses, who infamously NDA in the year named for them, only to be defeated by NDA. The few survivors went into hiding again, and their descendants still survive today, just waiting to sneak into the plots of novels (wherefore all of these NDAs).
The preceding is from some of Ed's original campaign lore-notes, as censored by yours truly to comply with extant NDAs.
Right now, I think I'll go and NDA with NDA after I tear my clothes off.
I'm SUCH a bad girl.
love to all,
THO



I don't know which is more interesting... The lore, or what the lovely Lady Hooded One is doing with the NDAs.

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Oh, Wooly, you say such NICE things to a lass.
Which leaves me, glistening lips parted slightly in anticipation, more than willing to urge you to participate. I will need Your tongue to NDA my trembling NDA, before you apply the whip I'll hand you to my NDA until I NDA, and sobbingly beg you for more.
Being the upstanding hamster I know you to be, I'm sure I can rely on you to NDA me until my NDA erupts in NDA and leaves me writhing in NDA after NDA until we collapse together in a puddle of NDA on the floor.
Whereupon, of course, you'll need to get out the feather duster and apply it with brutal gentleness to my NDA, probing deeply in a vain attempt to satisfy me.
For I am, of course, never sated.

And for the rest of you scribes who read this, those who are offended really should launder their minds. The ASSUMPTIONS you make when your eyes behold "NDA"! Well, I NEVER!

Well, as G&S said, hardly ever . . .
love,
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Edit: Ahem, the Roll of Years, yes. Where - - ohhhhh! - - were we? Ah, yes, the Sarune. Who are headed by one who takes the title "THE Sarune," and - - oh, ND-effing-A! THAT's NDA, too! Blah!

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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Oh, Wooly, you say such NICE things to a lass.
Which leaves me, glistening lips parted slightly in anticipation, more than willing to urge you to participate. I will need Your tongue to NDA my trembling NDA, before you apply the whip I'll hand you to my NDA until I NDA, and sobbingly beg you for more.
Being the upstanding hamster I know you to be, I'm sure I can rely on you to NDA me until my NDA erupts in NDA and leaves me writhing in NDA after NDA until we collapse together in a puddle of NDA on the floor.
Whereupon, of course, you'll need to get out the feather duster and apply it with brutal gentleness to my NDA, probing deeply in a vain attempt to satisfy me.
For I am, of course, never sated.

And for the rest of you scribes who read this, those who are offended really should launder their minds. The ASSUMPTIONS you make when your eyes behold "NDA"! Well, I NEVER!

Well, as G&S said, hardly ever . . .
love,
THO
Edit: Ahem, the Roll of Years, yes. Where - - ohhhhh! - - were we? Ah, yes, the Sarune. Who are headed by one who takes the title "THE Sarune," and - - oh, ND-effing-A! THAT's NDA, too! Blah!



Did she say puddle of DNA???

goodnight!

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My Lady, we appreciate all the lore you share with us... We just don't notice it immediately, because the rest of your post gets us all hot and bothered!

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Wow. Thy Lady's NDA's are definitely NSFW!

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Oh, Wooly, you say such NICE things to a lass.
Which leaves me, glistening lips parted slightly in anticipation, more than willing to urge you to participate. I will need Your tongue to NDA my trembling NDA, before you apply the whip I'll hand you to my NDA until I NDA, and sobbingly beg you for more.
Being the upstanding hamster I know you to be, I'm sure I can rely on you to NDA me until my NDA erupts in NDA and leaves me writhing in NDA after NDA until we collapse together in a puddle of NDA on the floor.
Whereupon, of course, you'll need to get out the feather duster and apply it with brutal gentleness to my NDA, probing deeply in a vain attempt to satisfy me.
For I am, of course, never sated.

And for the rest of you scribes who read this, those who are offended really should launder their minds. The ASSUMPTIONS you make when your eyes behold "NDA"! Well, I NEVER!

Well, as G&S said, hardly ever . . .
love,
THO
Edit: Ahem, the Roll of Years, yes. Where - - ohhhhh! - - were we? Ah, yes, the Sarune. Who are headed by one who takes the title "THE Sarune," and - - oh, ND-effing-A! THAT's NDA, too! Blah!

My Lady, you've once again rekindled my love for the once-dreaded NDA.

And waste no time with the Hamster. A Loremaster Most High is ALL Loremaster, if you know what I mean?

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Year of the Shandon Eyes, 741
Year of the Shandon Veil, 962


Currently re-reading through Volo's Guide to All Things Magical and it seems that, much like jasmal of the Year of the Jasmal Blade, shandon is a gemstone (and is specifically noted as being "...used by skilled clothiers to adorn veils and robes...") (VGtATM, p.49)

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Year of the Exploding Orl, 861


The same goes for orl, as "Those who work with magic know orl as a potent explosive..." (VGtATM, p.46)

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Good finds, thanks.

I need to get back on this one...

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George Krashos
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Searching through my trove of Steven Schend stuff, he has "normiir" as the elven term for a unique treasure, which is beyond compare and priceless.

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Asharak
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Thank you very much for this lights.

"Soyez ralistes : demandez l'impossible"

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Wooly the link from 2009 no longer seems to work. Do you have an updated link? Or an updated RTF file I can snag?

P.S. My god I have missed THO's replies to things. Very thrilled I stumbled on to this one.

The party come to a town befallen by hysteria

Rogue: So what's in the general store?
DM: What are you looking for?
Rogue: Whatevers in the store.
DM: Like what?
Rogue: Everything.
DM: There is a lot of stuff.
Rogue: Is there a cart outside?
DM: (rolls) Yes.
Rogue: We'll take it all, we may need it for the greater good.
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